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IRC Log for 2016-09-27

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[0:52] <AdamOfDC949> Quick question: Will a disk is 100% full and can no longer be up & in (it is giving "failed to write to /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/fiemap_test: (1) Operation not permitted")... will removing that node and adding it again fix this problem?
[0:53] <AdamOfDC949> all the data seems to be in tact with 8/9 of the nodes, as one would expect, but I'd like to get back to 100% up & in case I'd lose a disk
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[9:36] <IcePic> losing single disks is no problem if you have poolsize >=2 or EC pools, it will just copy stuff from some other copy of it you have
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[10:20] <Jeeves_> Q: Can I ask rbd to 'trim' an image?
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[10:24] <Be-El> Jeeves_: the content of a rbd is opaque to librbd
[10:27] <Jeeves_> Hmm, yes.
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[10:29] <Be-El> if the filesystem on top of the rbd supports trimming and the complete software stack (librbd, hypervisor etc.), invoking fstrim on the filesystem should results in the release of unused parts of the rbd
[10:29] <Be-El> not sure whether the kernel implementation supports it, but kvm + librbd supports trimming if you use the virt-scsi driver
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[10:33] <Jeeves_> Yeah, I'll have to test that stuff. Proxmox has a switch for it. But there seem to be a lot of layers that can be an issue :)
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[10:45] <doppelgrau> Be-El: Jeeves_: kernel-rbd supports trim too
[10:45] * doppelgrau uses it sometimes to mount an image an run fstrim on it
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[10:53] <peetaur2> Be-El: do you mean like -drive file=rbd:rbd/imagename,if=virt-scsi,discard=on which says unsupported bus type 'virt-scsi' ?
[10:53] <peetaur2> I tested with if=virtio, and guest says fstrim: /: the discard operation is not supported
[10:54] <peetaur2> and long ago I read that virtio doesn't support trim, but ide or something does
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[10:59] <peetaur2> I guess I'll try kernel 4.8 in the guest
[10:59] <Gugge-47527> peetaur2: isnt it virtio-scsi
[10:59] <Be-El> peetaur2: http://wiki.qemu.org/Features/VirtioSCSI
[11:00] <peetaur2> ok will try that before the 4.8 kernel
[11:02] <peetaur2> unsupported bus type 'virtio-scsi'
[11:02] <peetaur2> QEMU emulator version 2.7.0
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[11:09] <peetaur2> and if I do it on this page https://wiki.netbsd.org/tutorials/how_to_setup_virtio_scsi_with_qemu/ (if=none and 2 more -device lines) then the guest (with kernel 3.14 and 4.8) I can't see the disks (looked with blkid and /dev/disk/by-id/ and /sys/class/block)
[11:09] <peetaur2> and I love that none of these pages say which kernel or qemu version you need
[11:12] <peetaur2> and "virtio-scsi" does not appear in the qemu manual
[11:12] <peetaur2> Jeeves_: did you manage to make it work?
[11:13] <Jeeves_> peetaur2: I'm still waiting for the diskmigration from iscsi -> ceph to finish
[11:13] <Jeeves_> Takes a while
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[11:14] <peetaur2> Jeeves_: how large is your image?
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[11:14] <Jeeves_> 124GB
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[11:15] <peetaur2> my test image is only 4GB, mostly minimal manjaro install 93% full
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[11:32] <peetaur2> Jeeves_: what did you use before with your iscsi? (I looked into non-commercial things and couldn't find anything convincingly better than just ZFS over NFS; and prefer FreeBSD ZFS to ZoL which has no sane scsi target software)
[11:33] <Jeeves_> peetaur2: FreeBSD with ZFS and ctl
[11:34] <peetaur2> oh... didn't hear of ctl; is that new?
[11:36] <peetaur2> "Beginning with 10.0-RELEASE ..." ok so that's newer than I tested
[11:37] <peetaur2> mine is still 9.3
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[11:44] <Jeeves_> Not that new, this machine has been running for two years now :)
[11:47] <peetaur2> well I set mine up very long ago and updated to 9.3 long ago too
[11:47] <peetaur2> started with 8.2 (which was a horrid release with even zfs corruption bugs I think, and then had to use 8-stable)
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[11:48] <peetaur2> and I find it dreadfully painful to update freebsd... so I want to get rid of it and use ceph :)
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[12:13] <TMM> Does anyone know of a 'lighter' way of deleting large rbd images? I'm using 'rbd rm' now but it's causing one of my osd nodes to get a ridiculously high load
[12:13] <TMM> I was considering deleting the objects using rados, but I'm not sure if that'll actually be any less invasive
[12:13] <Be-El> TMM: identifying the rados objects for that rbd and removing them manually
[12:13] <TMM> Be-El, ah, so that will be lighter you think?
[12:14] <Be-El> it depends on the rbd image
[12:14] <TMM> it's 1.6TB of stuff
[12:14] <Be-El> there was a discussion about exactly that problem some days ago on the channel
[12:14] <TMM> it seems to be fully provisioned too, with 4MB backing objects
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[12:14] <peetaur2> TMM: there's this which says "use with caution!" http://cephnotes.ksperis.com/blog/2014/07/04/remove-big-rbd-image
[12:14] <Be-El> TMM: rbd format 1 or format 2?
[12:14] <TMM> format 2
[12:15] <Be-El> TMM: with or without object-map feature?
[12:16] <TMM> layering, striping only it seems
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[12:17] <Be-El> TMM: ok, so you can either try to add an object-map (requires scanning for all fragments), or remove the image directly (requires scanning for all fragments) or use the rados delete method
[12:17] <TMM> hmm
[12:17] <TMM> ok
[12:18] <Be-El> if you need to throttle the fragment deletion rate, you will probably end up with the rados method and introduce some sleep calls
[12:18] <TMM> that seems what I need to do then
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[12:19] <TMM> thanks Be-El
[12:19] <TMM> my osd node got a load of 140 during the deletion
[12:20] <TMM> but only on one physical node
[12:20] <Be-El> that sounds more like a hardware problem on that ndoe
[12:21] <TMM> it stops as soon as the deletion is stopped
[12:22] <TMM> we have read and write latency measurements on all osds, that physical node does not normally seem to cause any problems
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[12:23] <TMM> I also found that just shutting off the osds on that one machine just causes the load to eventually move to a single other machine
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[12:32] <Jeeves_> peetaur2: Works!
[12:33] <Jeeves_> peetaur2: -device virtio-scsi-pci,id=scsihw0,bus=pci.0,addr=0x5 -drive file=rbd:rbd/vm-450-disk-1:mon_host=10.42.100.7:id=admin:auth_supported=cephx:keyring=/etc/pve/priv/ceph/ceph.keyring,if=none,id=drive-scsi0,discard=on,format=raw,cache=none,aio=native,detect-zeroes=unmap -device scsi-hd,bus=scsihw0.0,channel=0,scsi-id=0,lun=0,drive=drive-scsi0,id=scsi0,bootindex=100
[12:35] <peetaur2> looks like what I did based on the netbsd link above
[12:36] <peetaur2> and my current suspicion is that the initrd had to be rebuilt with the scsi-virtio driver in it
[12:36] <peetaur2> already had CONFIG_SCSI_VIRTIO=m
[12:37] <peetaur2> so thanks and I'll try something just like that if this failse
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[12:39] <peetaur2> yay it works :)
[12:39] <peetaur2> so your distro already had virtio_scsi in initramfs? (or CONFIG_SCSI_VIRTIO=y)
[12:40] <peetaur2> heh in the beginning I had 6.42% used, and now after fstrim I have 6.86% ... I think I should test again :)
[12:44] <peetaur2> tested again and it works, but never lower than 6.86%, probably because of snapshots
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[13:14] <peetaur2> Jeeves_: did you also get proxmox to do it this way?
[13:14] <peetaur2> I don't see it in the gui for proxmox 3.4
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[13:18] <Jeeves_> peetaur2: Lemmecheck
[13:19] <Jeeves_> peetaur2: Use the 'discard' in 'Edit Hard disk'.
[13:19] <Jeeves_> peetaur2: Select 'VIRTIO' as SCSI Controller Type
[13:19] <Jeeves_> And SCSI as disk type
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[13:25] <peetaur2> Jeeves_: tried that but it uses -device virtio-blk-pci instead of -device virtio-scsi-pci
[13:25] <peetaur2> which version is your proxmox?
[13:25] <Jeeves_> The version I just used 4.2
[13:26] <peetaur2> is it safe to upgrade yet? :D
[13:26] <Jeeves_> Ehm, why wouldn't it?
[13:27] <peetaur2> sometimes it's not
[13:27] <peetaur2> and 3.x has been much more stable than 2.x for me
[13:27] <Jeeves_> Well, if you're running a cluster, you need to reinstall anywys
[13:27] <peetaur2> no upgrades from 3.x to 4.x?
[13:28] <Jeeves_> The whole clustering stuff has been rewritten, iirc
[13:28] <peetaur2> so no live migration either?
[13:28] <Jeeves_> No
[13:30] <peetaur2> should I look on the wiki for the best procedure then?
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[13:30] <Jeeves_> I guess 'reinstall' is the best way :)
[13:32] <peetaur2> well live migrate out the vms, reinstal is easy... but what about offline moving them from 3.x to 4.x? just match bridge and storage names in config, then cp the conf file and start?
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[13:33] <Jeeves_> Yes
[13:33] <peetaur2> btw, with my fio test I went from 777 iops to 925 with this virtio change (with probably no other relevant changes in between)
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[14:00] <Jeeves_> https://p.6core.net/p/APBABYufXo9pou28nXTMCbo5
[14:00] <Jeeves_> Why isn't this fixing itself?
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[14:01] <peetaur2> Jeeves_: are 2 osds down?
[14:02] <Jeeves_> Yes, 2 of 6
[14:02] <peetaur2> is size=3 in every pool?
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[14:04] <peetaur2> (ceph osd pool ls detail)
[14:06] <Jeeves_> No, size = 2 everywhere
[14:06] <peetaur2> and did it get a chance to get clean before the 2nd osd went down? otherwise, I would expect exactly this
[14:07] <peetaur2> well I'd expect many stuck inactive, but not a majority
[14:08] <Jeeves_> The two osd's are in the same machine
[14:10] <peetaur2> ok and did you change the crush rules? (default is host I guess?)
[14:10] <Jeeves_> https://p.6core.net/p/iIvtt58tBuaxroskN8CgUQR3
[14:10] <Jeeves_> I didn't change them ...
[14:11] <peetaur2> ok so "step chooseleaf firstn 0 type host" means it should be fine then based on what I know
[14:12] <peetaur2> (or what I think I know ;))
[14:14] <Jeeves_> Yes.
[14:15] <Jeeves_> Could it be that pg_num is too low for a bunch of pools?
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[14:20] <Jeeves_> min_size == 2 everywhere
[14:20] <Jeeves_> which doesn't make a lot of sense!
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[14:27] <peetaur2> min_size =2 means if there's less than 2 online, then they are blocked (which I don't know if that means totally or just read-only)
[14:27] <peetaur2> (which is easy to test...and will now)
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[14:30] <Jeeves_> I don't get why it doesn't start to rebalance
[14:31] <peetaur2> so with size=3, min_size=3 and 1/3 osds down, I can't "rbd map", or "ls" in a vm that was already running
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[14:35] <peetaur2_> and then setting min_size 2 again made my machine hang :)
[14:36] <peetaur2_> (linux desktop with 3 ceph vms with one separate disk each ...dunno why it hangs; nothing else ever does)
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[16:53] <TMM> Be-El, I increased the target_max_bytes of my cache tier and it seems that the high load of that one osd has gome to near 0 now
[16:54] <TMM> Be-El, it appears that for some reason that one osd node is hit by the ec calculations way harder than the other nodes
[16:54] <TMM> very strange
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[17:02] <mqg> How to mount a cephfs using subtree ??
[17:03] <mqg> mount.ceph mon0:/web/data /data/ -o name=admin,secretfile=/etc/ceph/admin.secret
[17:03] <mqg> Receive mount error 2 = No such file or directory
[17:06] <TMM> Be-El, any idea why running the rados rm command could give me 'no such file or directory' messages on some of the objects?
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[17:11] <mqg> Maybe do not have the image created
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[17:11] <mqg> or instead use rados use rbd
[17:11] <mqg> rbd rm
[17:11] <TMM> mqg, using 'rbd rm' creates a huge load on my cluster
[17:12] <mqg> copy and paste your rbd ls
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[17:13] <TMM> mqg, it's just a list of uuids for the volumes
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[17:13] <TMM> mqg, anything in particular you'd like to see?
[17:13] <mqg> see if you have the images created
[17:13] <mqg> you want remove a image ?
[17:13] <TMM> the image I'm trying to delete was definitely created
[17:14] <mqg> I am use rbd rm always
[17:14] <mqg> I use
[17:14] <TMM> I got the object prefix through rbd info
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[17:22] <mqg> How to mount a cephfs using subtree ?? mount.ceph mon0:/web/data /data/ -o name=admin,secretfile=/etc/ceph/admin.secret Receive mount error 2 = No such file or directory
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[17:30] <mqg> #redhat
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[17:40] <mqg> you were right the first time when you asked that on ceph-users, this isn't the channel for questions like that
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[17:43] <_kelv> is there a doc that describes pgmap in more detail? For example, what increments the pgmap version, and how is that distributed?
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[17:52] <jcsp> mqg: your syntax looks OK, assuming there really is a folder called web/data in the root of your filesystem
[17:54] <mqg> how to and where I create the folder in the root of my filesystem
[17:54] <wes_dillingham> so, I just rebuilt a ceph osd host, and didnt touch my osd disks, upon reprovisioning the osd node (and the identical ceph.conf and ceph packages get dropped by my config mgmt) the OSDs auto-rejoined the cluster (which is awesome) just curious what the code path is to get those daemons started and getting those osds to get up and in???. presumably part of the init system (on rhel7)? Just want to have a look at how that works???
[17:54] <mqg> in the same ceph client or in the ceph metada or in the ceph monitor /
[17:54] <mqg> ?
[17:54] <jcsp> mqg: you would need to mount your filesystem (without a subtree), then create the folder that you want to use as a subtree
[17:56] <mqg> mount.ceph mon0:/ /data/ -o name=admin,secretfile=/etc/ceph/admin.secret, and then mkdir /data/web inside of mount point directory (/data) ????
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[18:01] <mqg> To assign limit to a directory in the ceph fs, use quotas ?
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[18:02] <mqg> because I when mount a cephfs I see all storage cluster space ..
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[18:03] <Green> so many people
[18:04] <mqg> jcsp mount.ceph mon0:/ /data/ -o name=admin,secretfile=/etc/ceph/admin.secret, and then mkdir /data/web inside of mount point directory (/data) ???? correct ???
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[18:05] <jcsp> mqg: yes
[18:05] <mqg> thanks very much
[18:05] <Green> Who heard of 'SUSE Ceph iSCSI Gateway'?
[18:07] <mqg> jscp always I mount the cephfs display all TBs of the ceph cluster ?
[18:09] <SamYaple> mqg: thats correct
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[18:10] <mqg> Thanks
[18:12] <mqg> This confirmed that mount a cephfs in a kernel client the quotes is not supported ?
[18:12] <mqg> quotas
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[18:22] <llua> https://github.com/SUSE/lrbd/wiki
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[18:32] <MikePar> trying to fix my ceph zones, found this script: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yehudasa/ceph/wip-fix-default-zone/src/fix-zone
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[18:33] <MikePar> it ran cleanly until the last command, where it returns:
[18:33] <MikePar> zone default
[18:33] <MikePar> mparson@int-ceph-01:~$ sudo ./fix-zone
[18:33] <MikePar> + RADOS=rados
[18:33] <MikePar> + RADOSGW_ADMIN=radosgw-admin
[18:33] <MikePar> + fixed_file=default-zone-fixed.json
[18:33] <MikePar> + pool_names=("domain_root" "control_pool" "gc_pool" "log_pool" "intent_log_pool" "usage_log_pool" "user_keys_pool" "user_email_pool" "user_swift_pool" "user_uid_pool" "index_pool" "data_pool" "data_extra_pool")
[18:33] <MikePar> + declare -a pool_names
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[18:52] <mqg> This confirmed that mount a cephfs in a kernel client the quotas is not supported ?
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[19:03] <mqg> I don't have any option to apply quotas to cephfs kernel clients ?
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[19:10] <mqg> fuse client vs kernel client in ceph jewel, what is the best option ?
[19:10] <mqg> ceph recommend kernel but not have quotas
[19:10] <mqg> ??
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[19:15] <mqg> fuse client vs kernel client in ceph jewel, what is the best option ?
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[19:46] <mqg> fuse client vs kernel client in ceph jewel, what is the best option ?
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[20:20] <llua> do you want the features offered by the fuse client more than the speed of the kernel client?
[20:20] <llua> if so, choose the fuse client.
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[20:59] <singler> hey guys, is there a reason why there was no 10.2.3 announcement? It is tagged in git for a week
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[21:27] <jbossalini> #ceph I have a procedure question before I try something that may be harmful. Running an Openstack cluster with Ceph-OSD on compute nodes, and Ceph-mon on 2 controller nodes. One of the controller nodes crashed hard and was unrecoverable. On the remaining Ceph-mon node (call it node-02), all ???ceph??? commands (ceph health, etc) are trying to hit the (missing) controller (call it node-01). I can see in the ceph-mon config that both node-01 and node-0
[21:27] <jbossalini> are listed, and ???ceph daemon mon.node-02 mon-status??? shows node-01 as rank 0. is this the proper way to remove node-01 from the cluster and just leave node-02? http://docs.ceph.com/docs/jewel/rados/operations/add-or-rm-mons/#removing-monitors-from-an-unhealthy-cluster
[21:27] <jbossalini> commands like ???ceph health??? are timing out
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[21:49] <fusl> why does "ceph osd rm <id>" tell me that these osds don't exist when they are listed in ceph osd df? https://scr.meo.ws/paste/1475005594752707482.txt
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[21:51] <jbossalini> #ceph I bit the bullet and followed that link. Success!
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[21:53] <mqg> I want use quotes
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[21:55] <mqg> health HEALTH_WARN too many PGs per OSD (321 > max 300)
[21:56] <mqg> how resolv this Health_warn ???
[21:57] <mqg> health HEALTH_WARN too many PGs per OSD (321 > max 300) how resolv this Health_warn ???
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[21:59] <doppelgrau> mqg: either add more osds or increase the mon parameter and restart mons :)
[21:59] <mqg> How to increate the mon parameter ?
[22:01] <doppelgrau> global part of the config ???mon pg warn max per osd???
[22:01] <fusl> worth to mention, ceph supports disabling this warning by setting the value (mentioned by doppelgrau) to 0
[22:02] <lurbs> Set it in ceph.conf, and either restart the daemons or also run: ceph tell mon.* injectargs '--mon_pg_warn-max_per_osd=NEWVALUE'
[22:02] <lurbs> s/warn-max/warn_max/
[22:04] <lurbs> Where NEWVALUE is either 0, to disable the check, or something >= 321 to just increase the point at which it'll warn.
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[22:06] <mqg> I can remove the default rbd image
[22:06] <mqg> >>
[22:06] <mqg> ??
[22:07] <lurbs> There's no default RBD image. There's a default pool.
[22:07] <lurbs> And yes.
[22:07] <mqg> yes sorry thanks for the answer
[22:07] <lurbs> Assuming you're not using it, of course.
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[22:11] <fusl> mqg: afaik, `rbd` command by default uses the default rbd pool called "rbd", so you always need to specify `-p <poolname>` if you want to change the default one
[22:11] <fusl> at least thats an issue i have been running into as well
[22:12] <lurbs> You can also specify $POOL/$IMAGE instead of -p $POOL $IMAGE.
[22:12] <doppelgrau> fusl: or use pool/image syntax
[22:12] <lurbs> Which I find more intuitive.
[22:14] <mqg> I remove the rbd pool and don't have problem
[22:14] <mqg> only always have specify the pool and image
[22:15] <mqg> lurbs i am use pool/image syntax
[22:16] <mqg> Thanks
[22:19] <mqg> instead of increase the mon parameter, remove the rbd pool and and stay under the 300
[22:19] <mqg> and the ceph status OK
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[22:28] <doppelgrau> mqg: the warning is there, since too many PGs per osd consumes more ressources, but it works with way more (during a transition had a cluster with over 600 PGs per OSD)
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[22:32] <mqg> I have 6 osd * 100 / 2 = 300 pg_num ?
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[22:48] <_kelv> if i have a mon trying to join a cluster (in probing state), should existing mon nodes in the cluster report "probing" state as well, or should they show "leader/peon"?
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[23:05] <mqg> I can change the pgnum and pgpnum without problems ? or yours have any recomendation before make this change ?
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