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IRC Log for 2016-09-22

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[0:21] <blizzow> xinli, glad to hear you got it working.
[0:21] <xinli> blizzow: thank you so much for your help
[0:23] <blizzow> yup
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[1:14] <- *johnavp1989* To prove that you are human, please enter the result of 8+3
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[1:37] <jiffe> ok, so I checked out the PG that is stuck peering
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[1:38] <jiffe> when I query the pg, acting shows 8 and 27, but when I look on 8 and 27 in 4.241_head all I see is a 0 byte file
[1:39] <jiffe> probing lists 8, 27 and 24 and when I look in the 4.241_head directory on 24 I see content
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[1:58] <jiffe> can I just copy a pg from one osd to another?
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[3:38] <jiffe> so with recovery, I've set the osd args max recovery threads, recovery max active, max backfills, all this system is doing is recovery right now
[3:38] <jiffe> and it seems that I get 1 second or so of 200 obj/s and then 5-10s of nothing
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[3:39] <jiffe> not sure what I'm doing wrong but recovery is going to take quiet a while at this rate
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[4:07] <- *johnavp1989* To prove that you are human, please enter the result of 8+3
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[10:14] <peetaur2> how can I fix this problem.... when I run `rbd rm someimage` it just hangs. The last thing strace says is futex(0x7ffe2f8ea54c, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 1, NULL
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[10:29] <peetaur2> har har rbd info says size 4096 TB
[10:29] <peetaur2> so I can't delete it because it's bigger than my whole cluster, or what?
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[10:33] <Gugge-47527> expect it to take a looooong time to delete a 4096TB image made of 4MB blocks :)
[10:33] <Gugge-47527> the rm command have to delete 1073741824 blocks :)
[10:34] <Gugge-47527> and without object-map it does not know how many exist, and have to try them all
[10:35] <Gugge-47527> if you never write any data to the rbd, read this http://cephnotes.ksperis.com/blog/2014/07/04/remove-big-rbd-image
[10:35] <peetaur2> ah so it is working...just reaaally slow :) Removing image: 1% complete
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[10:36] <peetaur2> I have probably written to the rbd though.... I wrote a very nice script (with a few bugs) doing like size=$(rbd info ....) (in bytes) rbd create --size .... (in MB :D) rbd export .... | rbd import
[10:37] <Gugge-47527> read the link anyway :)
[10:37] <peetaur2> ah so it's no problem to write,just then it takes longer
[10:38] <peetaur2> my test pool is only 180GB so this should be fine
[10:38] <Be-El> Gugge-47527: there are also the rbd_directory and rbd_children objects in rbd pools. not sure whether and how these need to be modified
[10:39] <peetaur2> so, is this method safe? if it is, why doesn't rbd rm do this already?
[10:39] <Gugge-47527> peetaur2: because this method is slower when the image is filled with data, and with object-map rbd rm is even faster
[10:40] <peetaur2> ok.... can I make an object map?
[10:40] <Be-El> maybe adding an object map is the fastest solution
[10:40] <Gugge-47527> adding the object map still have to find out which if the 1 billing objects are there :)
[10:40] <Gugge-47527> its gonna take a long time, if the rbd wasnt created with object-map from the start
[10:40] <Be-El> Gugge-47527: so it's not using a clever method to fill the map
[10:41] <Gugge-47527> dont know, but i dont expect so :)
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[12:44] <peetaur2> can you rename rbd snapshots?
[12:47] <Gugge-47527> try :)
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[12:48] <peetaur2> it does not appear to be in any manual, and using rbd --pool "$pool" rename <old> <new> says "rbd: snapname specified for a command that doesn't use it"
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[12:52] <Be-El> peetaur2: there's a 'rbd snap rename' command
[12:53] <hyperbaba> Hi, peetaur2, sorry for bothering you , but do you know is there a way to remove pgs from the system (data loss is ok for me) ?
[12:53] <hyperbaba> i have 6 of them incomplete and the new data which is writen in those pgs makes osd stuck
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[12:55] <Be-El> hyperbaba: you cannot "remove" a pg
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[12:55] <peetaur2> Be-El: ok so I see 0.94.9 does not have it, but 10.2.2 has it
[12:56] <Be-El> peetaur2: yes, that might be the case
[12:56] <Be-El> peetaur2: not sure whether the command requires support on osd side
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[13:00] <peetaur2> using 10.2.2 to rename on a 0.94.9 cluster: librbd::SnapshotRenameRequest: encountered error: (95) Operation not supportedrbd: renaming snap failed:
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[13:03] <peetaur2> hyperbaba: you can mark them lost
[13:03] <peetaur2> hyperbaba: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/jewel/rados/troubleshooting/troubleshooting-pg/
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[13:28] <hyperbaba> i can mark lost osd not the pg. Or i am wrong?
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[13:34] <Be-El> hyperbaba: can you upload the output of ceph pg query for one of the troubled pg to some pastebin?
[13:38] <hyperbaba> Be-El: i will. but i need you to tell you the back story. Colegeue of mine wanted to remove some osd disks from the system. Then he imediately outed the disks and the rebalance did not happen. Now those 3 osds are not part of the cluster and the 6 pgs are in incomplete state.
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[13:39] <peetaur2> hyperbaba: I think others have said you can mark a pg lost so it is gone from all error messages and the data it had is gone
[13:39] <peetaur2> but I don't see how to do it I guess
[13:39] <hyperbaba> http://pastebin.com/fXc1n5jf
[13:39] <hyperbaba> how can i mark pg lost
[13:39] <hyperbaba> i can only mark osd lost
[13:40] <peetaur2> hyperbaba: did he do something other than out? did he stop the osds, clear their filesystems, etc.?
[13:40] <hyperbaba> but the osd is no longer in the cluster
[13:40] <peetaur2> why is it no longer in the cluster? out doesn't do that.
[13:40] <hyperbaba> he outed them and removed auth
[13:40] <peetaur2> only auth? you can easily add auth back
[13:40] <hyperbaba> he followed the procedure on the ceph documentation
[13:40] <hyperbaba> he did all the steps
[13:40] <peetaur2> the procedure would have said to wait until HEALTH_OK after out before removing the osd
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[13:41] <Be-El> hyperbaba: let me have a look. there's a special flag to ignore incomplete pgs during osd startup, but it might not be applicable in all scenarios
[13:41] <peetaur2> you said "rebalance did not happen"... so you fix that, not continue to remove the osd... so I'd say the instructions were not followed
[13:41] <hyperbaba> Be-El: for the info. osd 7,8,9 are completely removed from the cluster
[13:41] <hyperbaba> yeah i know.
[13:41] <peetaur2> Be-El: this one? ceph pg 2.5 mark_unfound_lost revert|delete
[13:41] <hyperbaba> it's a mistake he made and i must deal with the consequences
[13:42] <Be-El> nope, there's a better one. just give me a minute
[13:42] <Be-El> ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? "down_osds_we_would_probe": [ ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? 8, ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? 9 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ],
[13:42] <hyperbaba> yea...and they had been removed completely from the cluster
[13:42] <hyperbaba> :(
[13:43] <Be-El> so the osd is waiting for osd 8 and 9 to show up again before it can complete the pg
[13:43] <hyperbaba> they can't go back in
[13:43] <Be-El> since these pgs are gone, you have to tell it to ignore these osds
[13:43] <peetaur2> ok well I think your demands are reasonable, to say just clean it so errors are gone but accept lost data... and I expect you can do that.
[13:43] <hyperbaba> Yes
[13:43] <peetaur2> are the osds listed in ceph osd tree ?
[13:43] <hyperbaba> i have a system sitting on top of the object store and i can recrreate the data after that
[13:43] <hyperbaba> no
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[13:44] <hyperbaba> they are not
[13:44] <hyperbaba> and in the crushmap they are showing as device instead osd
[13:44] <peetaur2> does ceph pg query tell you the old osd id?
[13:44] <hyperbaba> he also removed them from the crush map
[13:44] <hyperbaba> i know the id's
[13:44] <hyperbaba> they are 7,8,9
[13:45] <Be-El> hyperbaba: log in to the host with the primary osd for that pg (osd 2), set osd_find_best_info_ignore_history_les to true in ceph.conf and restart the osd
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[13:46] <Be-El> the problem with this approach is that you do not know which objects are missing afterwards, so you have to recover the complete pool
[13:46] <hyperbaba> osd_find_best_info_ignore_history_les=true that?
[13:47] <Be-El> yes, afaik
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[13:50] <hyperbaba> where is that option goes? into general?
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[13:50] <Be-El> yes, or to [osd]
[13:50] <hyperbaba> i put it in general
[13:50] <hyperbaba> but nothink happened
[13:50] <hyperbaba> but nothing happened
[13:51] <Be-El> you can verify it with ceph daemon osd.2 config get osd_find_best_info_ignore_history_les
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[13:53] <hyperbaba> it's true
[13:53] <hyperbaba> root@server2:~# ceph daemon osd.2 config get osd_find_best_info_ignore_history_les
[13:53] <hyperbaba> {
[13:53] <hyperbaba> "osd_find_best_info_ignore_history_les": "true"
[13:53] <hyperbaba> }
[13:53] <hyperbaba> sorry for the paste...it was unitentional
[13:56] <Be-El> so no recovery/backfill for that pg after restarting the osd
[13:56] <Be-El> ?
[13:56] <hyperbaba> nothing
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[13:57] <Be-El> well, that's the last resort I know of and that I've used in the past
[13:58] <hyperbaba> thank you for your time
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[13:58] <Be-El> i would propose to revert the flag in ceph.conf and have a closer look at ceph-objectstore-tool, which can be used to reset the pg flags. but i've no experience with that tool (yet)
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[13:59] <Be-El> before you do that, does ceph pg query still shows the missing osds as blockers?
[13:59] <hyperbaba> i've used it to export pgs from the outed osd's but i don't know what to do with those exports
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[13:59] <hyperbaba> ],
[13:59] <hyperbaba> "down_osds_we_would_probe": [
[13:59] <hyperbaba> 8,
[13:59] <hyperbaba> 9
[13:59] <hyperbaba> ],
[14:00] <Be-El> which ceph release do you use?
[14:00] <hyperbaba> 0.94.5
[14:00] <hyperbaba> -8
[14:00] <Be-El> maybe flag is only support in newer hammer releases
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[14:01] <Be-El> you can search the mailing list for it. if i remember correctly i have been using it with hammer, but the 0.94.6 or 0.94.7 release (the one with the fix for cache tiering)
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[14:45] <rmart04> Hi, Could anyone let me know if its possible to get more information around an rbd image than what you get initially from rbd info?
[14:45] <rmart04> I.E size, vs actual used size
[14:45] <rmart04> (infernalis)
[14:47] <peetaur2> rmart04: --format json gives more....but it already says full size
[14:48] <jiffe> what would cause recovery to run sporadically on a cluster that is only doing recovery?
[14:48] <peetaur2> hmm actually json for that command just says the same
[14:48] <rmart04> Yes size is there, I was just making an example of why actual used was different. Thanks, Ill take a lok
[14:48] <rmart04> look*
[14:49] <rmart04> Oh yea, looks the same
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[14:50] <rmart04> rbd du might give me somt of the info I was after
[14:50] <rmart04> ill give that a go
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[14:51] <rmart04> Another quick one, because my rbd images are thin provisioned, does that mean I can over subscribe the cluster? (obviously, need to make sure I dont run out of space??? that would be bad!)
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[15:11] <singler> I see that 10.2.3 is already taged in code. When could we expect an announcement?
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[15:17] <darkfader> rmart04: that's the point of thin volumes
[15:18] <darkfader> if i may advise: don't just set up sharp monitoring to avoid running full
[15:18] <darkfader> also at least once fill it up till everything breaks, and document the procedures and time needed to fix
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[15:19] <darkfader> since we're all humans making errors running software having bugs, there's a 100% chance it'll slam full at some point in future
[15:19] <darkfader> if you never practiced, your life will be horrible at that point
[15:20] <darkfader> monitoring is mandatory anyway :)
[15:20] <peetaur2> other than starting all the crashed osds and deleting some things, or adding osds, what else do you need to recover?
[15:21] <darkfader> should be all
[15:21] <peetaur2> and is deleting easy, like start osds, and block clients from connecting, and then delete something, then unblock?
[15:22] <darkfader> it's just if one takes money for their job each month, preparing for issues and documenting is not just good practice but the damn job
[15:22] <darkfader> usually see it's like this
[15:22] <darkfader> it goes full
[15:22] <darkfader> all vms die
[15:22] <darkfader> everyone panics
[15:22] <darkfader> then at some point randomly stuff is deleted
[15:23] <darkfader> and then it looks like what you described
[15:24] <rmart04> sounds like good advice. Thats kind of why I was looking for a overall ???provisioned??? vs ???actual usuage??? metrics so that I could graph them up. But yes, running up a full cluster would be a good excersize.
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[15:37] <rmart04> my colleague makes a good point, might be worth making a couple of big chunks of data a TB or two, so that if you do hit a full cluster issue, you dont have to sacrafice someones data to get the cluster back up!
[15:38] <rmart04> gives you as long as it takes your customers to consume 2tb to get more disks in
[15:38] <rmart04> if your customer is cern, you better hope your disks are on hotstandby
[15:43] <Be-El> you can just set a pool quota
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[16:19] <- *johnavp1989* To prove that you are human, please enter the result of 8+3
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[16:35] <lincolnb> if I do a "dump_ops_in_flight" on my MDS, I get descriptions like this: "description": "client_request(client.2574968:5526805 open #10016fc7d80\/c90611facb3299b9a05ea389a860b452e2a98f 2016-09-22 09:33:16.248190)",
[16:35] <lincolnb> is there a way to resolve that to a file / directory in the cephfs namespace?
[16:40] <Be-El> lincolnb: 10016fc7d80 is the inode id of the file/directory
[16:41] <lincolnb> alright
[16:41] <Be-El> lincolnb: the first object has a 'parent' xattr which contains the path
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[16:41] <Be-El> lincolnb: rados -p <data pool> getxattr 10016fc7d80.00000000 parent
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[16:41] <lincolnb> nice, thanks a lot
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[16:49] <lincolnb> Be-El: hm, when I try that I just get 'no such file or directory'. I tried an 'ls -i' and grabbed a random known file out of a directory in cephfs, and saw the same thing. I'm on 0.94.9 and using EC+Cache Tiering fwiw. tried both the cache pool and the ec pool
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[16:53] <Be-El> lincolnb: hmm....that's the way i usually locate the files in the our setup
[16:54] <Be-El> lincolnb: do you have multiple data pools?
[16:54] <lincolnb> nope, just one.
[16:56] <lincolnb> interestingly i can't even do a 'get' on a random object i picked out of 'rados -p <cachepool> ls'. must be something i'm missing here with cache/EC
[16:56] <lincolnb> because it works fine with my RBD pool
[16:57] <Be-El> do it work neither on cache pool nor in ec pool?
[16:58] <lincolnb> correct
[16:58] <Be-El> spooky....
[16:58] <lincolnb> ya
[16:58] <Be-El> does 'rados -p <data pool> listxattr <object id>' print any attributes like parent or layout?
[16:59] <lincolnb> nope
[16:59] <Be-El> at least parent should be present for any file on the first object (XYZ.00000000)
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[17:00] <Be-El> you can try to list all rados objects and filter those with the '0's suffix. maybe they have a different pattern in your setup
[17:01] <Be-El> or touch a file in a cephfs directory, use ls -i to get its inode id, convert it to hexadecimal and try to locate the corresponding rados object
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[17:05] <lincolnb> hm, it works for some objects it seems. maybe the ones i'm finding in the dump_ops_in_flight are being deleted
[17:09] <Be-El> or the number refers to a directory, which is stored as rados object in the metadata pool
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[18:35] <dddd> Hello, I currently have a 'forward' failing cluster, no idea why. All it tells me is osd/PGLog.cc: 970: FAILED assert(last_e.version.version < e.version.version)
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[18:36] <dddd> basically pg logs are bad (?) and I can't find any way to determine why/what/how or how to reset it
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[18:38] <dddd> anyone?
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[18:43] <dddd> Hello, I currently have a 'forward' failing cluster, no idea why. All it tells me is osd/PGLog.cc: 970: FAILED assert(last_e.version.version < e.version.version)
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[19:06] <ddddd> can anyone see this?
[19:06] <diver_> I see, but have no ideas how to help you man
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[19:47] <jiffe> what would cause recovery to run sporadically on a cluster that is only doing recovery? it seems to run for a second and then sit idle for 5-10 seconds
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[19:49] <jiffe> I'm about 15 hours in and about 25% done recovering a 3tb drive
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[19:50] <jiffe> and the only thing thats running right now is the recovery, no other io
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[19:57] <- *johnavp1989* To prove that you are human, please enter the result of 8+3
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[22:50] <stupidnic> Hello. I am having some trouble using ceph-deploy on Ubuntu 16.04 and I am not sure where I am going wrong.
[22:51] <stupidnic> In previous versions I would just run ceph prepare and it would start the OSD for me automatically, but that doesn't seem to be happening any more.
[22:51] <stupidnic> s/ceph/ceph-deploy
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[23:09] <lurbs> s/$/\//
[23:10] <peetaur> stupidnic: service ceph start osd
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[23:11] <stupidnic> Let me wipe the install and try it again... I am pretty sure I tried that
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[23:12] <ndru_> I'm currently having issues with it aswell
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[23:12] <ndru_> I've been trying to add a new node
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