#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-08-02

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[0:00] <poningru> anyone?
[0:00] <poningru> beuller? beuller? beuller?
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[0:15] <m0zes> poningru: xfs.
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[0:31] <poningru> m0zes, cool thanks
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[1:16] <SamYaple> poningru: likely going to be xfs until bluestore
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[2:34] <blizzow> I'm trying to install a fresh cluster using ceph-deploy. I have two NICs in each mon and osd node. /etc/hosts points all hosts at the ceph network address. I put in public network = 172.16.1.0/24 and cluster network = 10.0.0.0/24 in my ceph.conf. When I run ceph-deploy mon create initial, the ceph mon process still seems to bind to the 172.16.1.X NIC and not my 10.0.0.X network.
[2:34] <blizzow> The initial ceph.conf file has the initial mon hosts listed by their 10.0.0.x addresses. All hosts are able to ping each other.
[2:36] <blizzow> Anyone seen anything like this?
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[2:40] <blizzow> All of my hosts resolve both the hostname and FQDN as their 10.0.0.x address. Is there a way to force the mon to bind to the 10.0.0.x address of my second network card?
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[2:49] <SamYaple> blizzow: mons are supposed to be on the public network, not the cluster network
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[8:22] <chengpeng> which tag should I take when I use "ceph report {tag}"
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[10:11] <schegi> Hi, i am running a little test ceph cluster 4 nodes (3 mon nodes with one osd running, and one pure osd node with two osds running). And i am observing a strange behavior, when killing osd processes (via systemctl or kill). Ceph seems to recongnize that osds are going down expcept for the last osd in the cluster os if iam am shutting down all osds ceph health always shows 1 os remaining up and it is always the last one shutted down as osd tree indicates. When
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[11:56] <Miouge> Can I change the ???mon pg warn max per osd??? live?
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[12:47] <Wild_> hi
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[12:47] <WildyLion> How can I delete objects from the rgw pool on a full ceph cluster? (full ratio reached)
[12:47] <WildyLion> this is just a test lab
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[13:18] <Hatsjoe> Hi all, I am having an issue with a crush map I build myself. See the output of crushtool --test here: http://pastebin.com/2mbBnmSM and here: http://pastebin.com/ar6SAFnX (notice the difference in num-rep) and this is my crush map: http://pastebin.com/VQdB0CE9
[13:19] <Hatsjoe> I think I'm doing something wrong, but not sure what, tried Googling it, but could not really find a clear solution.
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[13:56] <zokko> hi guys
[13:57] <zokko> do you know about any issue that could cause errors when limit 330 milion object is being achieved?
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[14:38] <walcubi> Hi, is normal for a client to hang if it stats a file that was written to OSD, but all replicas are down'd?
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[14:42] <walcubi> Worse, it also seems to hang if you try to write a replacement file into the pool.
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[16:30] <bb0x> hi guys, how I can check how much data is really used by a ceph cluster ?
[16:30] <bb0x> ceph status reports 290GB used
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[16:59] <SamYaple> walcubi: if the number of available copies is below the min_size then you will not be able to perform any iops against that object
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[17:26] <bb0x> any idea ?
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[17:30] <SamYaple> bb0x: sure. what are you asking for? there is raw used and actual used (the data you are storing)
[17:31] <bb0x> I'm new to ceph, and I have a cluster with 2 nodes (6 OSD's) a few monitors, etc.
[17:31] <bb0x> there are some images exported to a virtual machine, formatted as xfs and exported over NFS
[17:32] <bb0x> I can see that directories and the total data there is 70GB ... but ceph status reports 290 GB
[17:32] <bb0x> I want to see what else is there, if there are any snapshots, etc.
[17:33] <SamYaple> alright. so first youll want to multiply 70GB by 3 because ceph is storing three copies of the data, so already yo uare up to 210GB
[17:33] <SamYaple> if you have _4_ copies then thats 280GB, but likely the issue is you have written and then deleted data from your rbd
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[17:33] <bb0x> ok, that make sense
[17:33] <SamYaple> that doesnt free up space in the cluster, youll need to issue an fstrim if your file system supports it
[17:34] <bb0x> pgmap v205928: 192 pgs, 1 pools, 146 GB data, 37664 objects
[17:34] <bb0x> 292 GB used, 44377 GB / 44670 GB avail
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[17:35] <bb0x> these are the results of ceph status. how I can find how many copies ? I think it's 3 but I'm not sure
[17:35] <SamYaple> it looks liek 2 copies
[17:35] <SamYaple> 292GB used, with only 146 GB of data
[17:36] <bb0x> which means this is 146/2 ...
[17:36] <SamYaple> try issuing an `fstrim /<mountpoint>` on your mount with the xfs
[17:36] <bb0x> actually used
[17:36] <SamYaple> bb0x: no
[17:36] <SamYaple> your data is 146GB
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[17:36] <SamYaple> your filesystem only has 70GB, but you have likely written and deleted from it
[17:37] <SamYaple> that doesnt free up space in the ceph cluster unless you also issue discards (with fstrim)
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[17:37] <bb0x> SamYaple, ok let me check
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[17:37] <SamYaple> fstrim may take a while to complete and it provides no output, but the ceph usage _should_ drop
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[17:37] <SamYaple> are you sure you have just the single RBD?
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[17:40] <bb0x> SamYaple, there are 5 I think
[17:40] <bb0x> actually 6 images
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[17:40] <SamYaple> so you are saying you are using 70GB across all 6 rbds?
[17:41] <SamYaple> this all sounds normal, you just need to issue the discard if you are trying to recover space
[17:41] <bb0x> yep
[17:41] <bb0x> NAME PROVISIONED USED
[17:41] <bb0x> NFSExport01 102400M 89572M
[17:41] <bb0x> rbd du say 89GB used here, and on the mounted FS I can see only 45 used
[17:42] <bb0x> # du -sh /data/source/
[17:42] <bb0x> 44G /data/source/
[17:42] <SamYaple> ive just explained why that is above
[17:42] <bb0x> I will trigger a fstrim on /data/source on the mounted fs
[17:42] <walcubi> SamYaple, humm. Well I guess I could up the min_size to avoid such a situation, but it rather goes against the use case.
[17:43] <SamYaple> walcubi: im confused, what do yo umean?
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[17:44] <SamYaple> walcubi: the normal config is 3 copies, min_size of 2 so yo ucan lose 1 osd and still have at least 2 copies of the data
[17:44] <walcubi> SamYaple, I don't actually care about the data in ceph. Only if it exists or not.
[17:44] <bb0x> SamYaple, it worked :)
[17:44] <bb0x> NAME PROVISIONED USED
[17:44] <bb0x> NFSExport01 102400M 48540M
[17:44] <bb0x> SamYaple, thank you, I'll do the same for the other mount points and see the result
[17:44] <SamYaple> bb0x: you should have a better understanding of how space works in ceph now. let us know if you have more questions!
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[17:45] <SamYaple> walcubi: define "data in ceph"? are you talking about rbds or files in a filesystem on an rbd
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[17:45] <walcubi> Writing data directly into a pool via librados.
[17:45] <bb0x> SamYaple, one more question, how I can see all clients connected to ceph cluster ?
[17:46] <bb0x> is there a command to identify them ?
[17:46] <SamYaple> bb0x: im not aware of one, but ive never looked. you can check individual rbds for "watchers" which would be clients (mostly)
[17:47] <SamYaple> bb0x: `rbd status <pool>/<rbdname>`
[17:47] <bb0x> SamYaple, great, thanks
[17:47] <SamYaple> walcubi: i mean if you dont care about data integrity then by all means drop min_size to 1
[17:48] <SamYaple> walcubi: if you _do_ care then having min_size to 1 is a bad idea since it can easily lead to corrupt data
[17:49] <walcubi> SamYaple, Yes - I'm just noting that when all references to an object are down, interaction with that object become stuck.
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[17:51] <walcubi> In my case, loosing an object or data going corrupt isn't so severe.
[17:52] <SamYaple> io does block until the object recovers, yes
[17:52] <SamYaple> that is recent as of jewel i believe. it used to throw some -E message
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[20:04] <leandrojpg> hi
[20:04] <leandrojpg> someone online?
[20:04] <leandrojpg> exity
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[20:07] <SamYaple> leandrojpg: lots of people online
[20:07] <leandrojpg> ok
[20:07] <leandrojpg> sorry
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[20:10] <leandrojpg> I'm the ceph running, but I knew very well how it operates, creating filesystem etc .. noticed that the devices are mounted, alguemm help me?
[20:11] <leandrojpg> I am new in this ceph universe, but even after reading some understand its usability
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[20:18] <leandrojpg> someone?
[20:18] <leandrojpg> SamYaple?
[20:18] <leandrojpg> Ivanjobs?
[20:18] <leandrojpg> help?
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[20:30] <SamYaple> leandrojpg: your question is not clear. what is your question?
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[20:35] <leandrojpg> after installed ceph and ok health, how should I use it? I create a filesystem and mount it on any node in the cluster? I do not know how in fact it should be used after installation.
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[20:37] <dvahlin> http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/start/quick-rbd/
[20:41] <leandrojpg> hi dvahlin thanks for help
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[20:52] <leandrojpg> Let me see if I understand the name than I have the ceph installed need to install the client ceph the admin, to deploy and then the node I speak using the disk? it is?
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[20:55] <leandrojpg> it is?
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[21:02] <leandrojpg> someone?
[21:04] <rkeene> This is mostly not comprhensible english.
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[21:05] <leandrojpg> excuse the English, I'm from Brazil and I am learning
[21:07] <leandrojpg> My test environment is
[21:07] <leandrojpg> 1 in admin and two nodes with discs for OSD.
[21:07] <leandrojpg> after ceph installed and the cluster done if I want to use the disk space, I would have to have another machine and install the client and so rather use format the drive as I want?
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[21:08] <leandrojpg> understand?
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[21:16] <magicrobotmonke> does anyone know how to change the default placement for a user in radosgw?
[21:17] <magicrobotmonke> I'm trying like: radosgw-admin --name client.rgw.$(hostname) user modify --uid lite --default-placement=stor-lite
[21:17] <magicrobotmonke> but getting ERROR: invalid flag --default-placement=stor-lite
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[21:25] <blizzow> do people running ceph generally run hypervisors right on their OSD nodes?
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[21:27] <rkeene> No.
[21:29] <blizzow> With how light the OSD is, I'd think it a waste of bare metal not to run hypervisors right on the OSD nodes and keep disk access fast. Is there a particular reason people don't do so?
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[21:31] <rkeene> It wouldn't improve disk access and the OSD processes would then be competing for CPU and memory for the hypervisor processes
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[21:31] <rkeene> Additionally they are two entirely different CLASSES of hardware
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[21:32] <rkeene> An OSD node doesn't need to be as reliable as a hypervisor host -- an OSD going down will not cause any noticable outages while a hypervisor host going down will mean some workloads have been lost
[21:35] <SamYaple> blizzow: people absolutely do run hypervisors on thier storage/OSD nodes
[21:35] <SamYaple> blizzow: but it is very dependant on the needs of the people running it
[21:35] <SamYaple> blizzow: i do it with openstack where all the instances(vms) are cattle where we can easily lose a node iwthout issue
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[21:52] <blizzow> okay, so I'm not stepping on some huge landmine where OSDs suddenly eat up a whole hypervisor.
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[21:55] <SamYaple> blizzow: when they start recovering they can use 1-2GB per OSD
[21:55] <SamYaple> blizzow: as long as you have resources segregated youll be fine though
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[22:09] <blizzow> Do you do anything special to segregate resources on your Hypervisors/OSDs (create cgroups, nice the OSD process...?)
[22:12] <SamYaple> blizzow: i am running with docker containers so all of the processes (including ceph) can be finely tuned. mostly i have just reserved 1GB of ram per OSD and thats worked out fine
[22:12] <SamYaple> should i need to I could lock down the resources better
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[22:26] <blizzow> Have you had any OSD containers get out of control or exhaust their limits?
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[22:31] <SamYaple> blizzow: once, but it was a bug in ceph
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[23:16] <aNupoisc> Hi guys, looking to install radosgw with swift and have installed apache, fastcgi module and configured that part but I am wondering where shall i bind apache to the host machine's IP address? Can anyone help me this
[23:17] <SamYaple> aNupoisc: radosgw _with_ swift? as in openstack swift?
[23:18] <aNupoisc> SamYaple: yes
[23:18] <aNupoisc> absolutely
[23:18] <SamYaple> im not sure what you mean then
[23:18] <SamYaple> they are both different things. you can have openstack use radosgw instead of swift
[23:19] <SamYaple> you can't back swift by librados is basically what it breaks down to
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[23:20] <aNupoisc> umm, hold on so ceph object storage supports two interfaces right? 1. S3 compatible and 2. Swift compatible
[23:20] <aNupoisc> so i am talking about swift compatible ceph object storage
[23:21] <aNupoisc> i believe ceph object storage and radosgw are same.
[23:21] <SamYaple> yes. thats doable, thanks not setting up "radosgw with swift" though.
[23:21] <SamYaple> ok so were on the same page now
[23:21] <SamYaple> aNupoisc: what version of ceph?
[23:21] <aNupoisc> haha. I got scared :)
[23:22] <aNupoisc> 0.80.11 SamYaple
[23:23] <aNupoisc> So steps i did so far are 1. installed apache and edited apache.conf to add SERVERNAME then installed fastcgi and loaded that
[23:23] <SamYaple> aNupoisc: the confusion is there is also some work to allow swift-proxy to talk directly to the ceph librados stuff
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[23:23] <aNupoisc> SamYaple: Ahh. Okay. so in that case radosgw will not be used you mean?
[23:24] <SamYaple> aNupoisc: correct. but thats not actually functional so i wanted to clarify
[23:24] <SamYaple> please continue with your issue
[23:25] <aNupoisc> yes. So i am wondering where shall i tell apache to bind to host IP
[23:25] <aNupoisc> in what file?
[23:25] <SamYaple> aNupoisc: i believe it drops a site file in /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[23:26] <SamYaple> you can bind it in there
[23:26] <aNupoisc> SamYaple: let me just check
[23:26] <SamYaple> alternatively you can use civetweb instead of apache2
[23:26] <SamYaple> jewel requires civetweb so youll have to move there eventually
[23:27] <aNupoisc> SamYaple: i can see default.conf
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[23:28] <aNupoisc> here are the contents http://pastebin.com/u69vw3AD
[23:28] <aNupoisc> SamYaple
[23:29] <aNupoisc> Actually i just saw in this doc http://docs.ceph.com/docs/firefly/radosgw/config/#add-a-gateway-configuration-to-ceph says we should specify inside ceph.conf
[23:29] <aNupoisc> is that the correct way?
[23:30] <SamYaple> yea sorry aNupoisc its been a while since ive used firefly. i dont think that will make sure it binds to a specific address. by default it should bind all i believe
[23:31] <aNupoisc> so shall i add details inside ceph.conf or site-enabled/default.conf or just add nothing
[23:32] <aNupoisc> what would be good to proceed further
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[23:58] <doppelgrau> hi
[23:59] <doppelgrau> i just updated a debian jessie host from hammer to jewel, the mon starts after reboot, the osd doesn???t

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