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IRC Log for 2016-07-27

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[1:28] <ceph-ircslackbot> <mnaser> It would be nice if this was contributed back upstream, it doesn't seem anywhere in the documentation: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en/red-hat-ceph-storage/1.3/administration-guide/chapter-9-performance-counters
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[7:38] <ronrib> help I need a sas expert, 4 disks disappeared in one of my servers, the Avago SAS9207-8e reports 4x 'SAS discovery error 0x00000080' on boot, my google foo lead me to this: https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19121-01/sf.x4200/819-1157-23/F_BIOS_RAID.html "SMP Response Function Failed 0x00000080" it seems unlikely that all 4 disks died at the same time, and the expansion chassis & HBA still work for the other 41 disks
[7:38] <ronrib> I'm guessing a component of the disk chassis is broken
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[8:12] <ronrib> rebooting the expansion chassis 'fixed' it :|
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[8:42] <sep> ronrib, i have seen that on a JBOD extension as well. rebooting did nothing, had to poweroff the jbod to get the disks back..
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[13:12] <rmart04> Hi, Chaps, would anyone be able to estimate the next update release for Jewel? v10.2.x? (v10.2.2 being the current)
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[14:07] <lipeng> Any suggestions on running Teuthology on small private ceph cluster? Any document? Thanks.
[14:09] <darkfaded> lipeng: i remember when it was new there was a long presentation on it
[14:09] <darkfaded> a pdf i guess
[14:10] <lipeng> @darkfaded: can you find it? :)
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[14:11] <darkfaded> lipeng: actually! yes!
[14:11] <darkfaded> http://eagain.net/talks/teuthology/teuthology.pdf
[14:11] <darkfaded> google helped me a lot there, i didn't have it anymore
[14:12] <darkfaded> so that's the very initial thing from before ansible took over the world a year later ;-)
[14:12] <darkfaded> and i saw there's really good docs in the teuth. / ceph testing git
[14:12] <darkfaded> didn't read any of it now but it looked "complete"
[14:12] <darkfaded> https://github.com/ceph/teuthology/tree/master/docs
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[14:16] <rmart04> Hi, Does anyone have any ideas when the next release of Jewel will be available?? I posted this earliar but it looks like the server reset!
[14:16] <rmart04> V10.2.3?
[14:16] <lipeng> darkfaded: I have read the documents, but cannot work on my private ceph cluster. Thanks anyway.
[14:17] <darkfaded> lipeng: :( why
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[14:17] <darkfaded> i mean, uh, where does it fall short?
[14:19] <lipeng> darkfaded: maybe the documents online are for public test environment setup by Redhat. They are complex and hard to understand. I just need an example to show how to run on small ceph clusters, such as several VMs on PC.
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[14:20] <lipeng> darkfaded: I googled but cannot get simple examples.
[14:22] <darkfaded> lipeng: ah!
[14:22] <darkfaded> for that i'd just use a vagrant-ceph install
[14:22] <darkfaded> there's premade things for that that work ok
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[14:23] <lipeng> darkfaded: We plan to setup a small test environment by several servers in my company and perform some auto tests. I have installed the ceph cluster now.
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[14:26] <lipeng> There is no simple document online to show how to run Teuthology on small ceph clusters easy to setup:( But the example ceph cluster installation guide is very easy to understand and follow.
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[15:07] <ceph-ircslackbot> <scheuk> does anyone have a cluster with a large amount of tiny files?
[15:08] <ceph-ircslackbot> <scheuk> I???m trying to figure out the best filestore merge threshhold/filestore split multiple
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[15:08] <ceph-ircslackbot> <scheuk> setting
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[15:09] <ceph-ircslackbot> <scheuk> right now it???s set to 40 and 8 which gets me (40 x 8 x 16) or 5120 per PG directory
[15:10] <ceph-ircslackbot> <scheuk> the real question is what???s is a safe numbers of objects per directory for XFS?
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[15:24] <- *johnavp1989* To prove that you are human, please enter the result of 8+3
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[15:43] <Realmy> I'm thinking about building an OpenStack + Ceph environment for a homelab. Is there anything glaringly wrong with using three physical servers to run both sides simultaneously? Anything glaringly wrong with using the same hardware for both MDS and OSD assuming it's specced for MDS performance (this is homelab, not anything "important")?
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[15:51] <[arx]> when performing an cluster upgrade, when should mds servers be updated? i remember the process being mons -> osds -> clients, would the mds be considered an client like the rgw is or should it be updated before other clients actually using cephfs?
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[15:54] <boolman> from infernalis to jewel this was my upgrade process: mon > osd > mds > clients
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[15:55] <boolman> But I might do clients before mds next time, because my old clients hung
[15:56] <boolman> but now that I think of it, it was probably because I changed the profile before updating the clients :P
[15:56] <[arx]> i'll keep that in mind. did every client hang... ah
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[15:57] <boolman> [arx]: since I changed osd crush tunable profile to infernalis I had to have a kernel newer than 3.15 or something like that. so therefore my old clients were missing a feature
[15:57] <boolman> maybe not infernalis profile, hummm but a newer one that I had
[15:58] <nils_> well jewel profile would probably require something newer than 3.15
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[16:16] <The_Ball> When using cephfs do you usually put the fsmetadata pool on some really quick storage OSDs to speed up the fs? On my journal fronted spinning disks it's pretty darn slow to scan through the file system
[16:16] <The_Ball> s/journal/ssd journal/
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[16:46] <scuttlemonkey> Reminder: the next CDM is 1 week from today. Please enter your blueprints/work for discussion -- http://wiki.ceph.com/Planning
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[17:49] <SamYaple> Realmy: nope. its what i do
[17:50] <SamYaple> Realmy: you have to be careful with shutdown/restarts if you want your clsuter to remain up. if you stop the mon and osds at the same time the cluster locks up for ~30 seconds with the map rebuilds and an election happens
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[18:19] <rkeene> TheSov, http://softiron.co.uk/products/
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[18:22] <idlemind> i have 3 small nodes i'm using as a home cluster for vm's of all kinds. they are all 4 core 32gb of ram w/2 x 4tb and 2 x 2tb hard drives. is it acceptable to use ceph to address the sata drives and get cross host data redundancy? i would need to use all the hosts for compute as well (again this is a home lab environment)
[18:23] <Realmy> Thanks SamYaple!
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[18:29] <TheSov> rkeene, whats that for?
[18:30] <TheSov> idlemind, its never a good idea to mix storage and compute
[18:30] <TheSov> but for home uise theres no issue
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[18:50] <idlemind> thesov right and exactly i don't want to run a ton of physical hosts in a home lab
[18:50] <idlemind> thesov if it was a production environment that would be a different story
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[19:45] <Realmy> TheSov, just wanted to say thanks for making those youtube videos. Found them very helpful as a jumping off point!
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[19:56] <TheSov> no prob man
[19:56] <TheSov> ty for watching them
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[23:30] <cholcombe> anyone tried uwsgi with ceph?
[23:31] <cholcombe> it seems to be tricky to get working
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[23:44] <cholcombe> i got it working. i was using a mountpoint of /rad ( which was in their docs ) vs just /. Just / works fine but /rad fails for some reason
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