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IRC Log for 2016-07-02

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[1:01] <adun153> Is there a way to use the ceph CLI tool to easily find out which physical device an OSD uses?
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[1:19] <jiffe> so right now in a production setup, if I have 10 disks, I would want no raid, put XFS on each and make each one an OSD?
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[1:23] <badone> adun153: try the list command of ceph-disk
[1:23] <badone> jiffe: that's the usual config, yes
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[1:28] <jiffe> another question is, if I have replication going, will the same set of PGs be groups together on all the OSDs?
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[1:31] <jiffe> I'm going to replicate across different machines, so I'm wondering if a disk dies in machine A, can any disk failure in machine B cause data loss or does a specific disk in machine B have to die because all the PGs that were on the failed disk on machine A are also on a single disk on machine B
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[1:39] <adun153> jiffe: Assuming that you have one OSD each on Machines A and B, with a single replica for each piece of data, then if A goes down, the data should still live on in B.
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[1:41] <jiffe> adun153: I have 10 OSDs on each machine
[1:42] <jiffe> and I'm looking to find out the kind of failure I might expect if a drive dies in machine A and in machine B
[1:42] <adun153> Same thing, jiffe. If I'm not mistaken, default behavior of, CRUSH is to replicate it to other nodes.
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[1:43] <jiffe> yeah, but my question is are PGs groups in the same OSD on different replicas?
[1:43] <jiffe> grouped
[1:43] <adun153> jiffe: Ah, ok. I guess now I'm understanding your question.
[1:45] <adun153> Not an expert, but if an OSD dies on A, and a replica exists in B, if there is still space on the OSDs on A, data from B will immediately be copied to the available OSDs A.
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[1:47] <jiffe> I see, alright
[1:48] <joshd> jiffe: PGs aren't grouped - the osds they're on are chosen pseudo-randomly by crush
[1:49] <adun153> joshd: Does this mean that my answer was wrong?
[1:50] <adun153> badone: I ran both "ceph osd tree" and "ceph-disk list" on "controller". Ceph-disk doesn't list the mapping for osd.2 http://imgur.com/V1uAGNO Any other ideas?
[1:52] <joshd> adun153: no, you're right about replication being to separate hosts by default - crush rules are effectively filters on the randomized placement, e.g. to prevent two replicas being on the same host
[1:52] <badone> adun153: what device is it on?
[1:53] <jiffe> no, but it does mean depending on the distribution of the PGs on machine B I will have a higher % chance of data loss while the re-replication is taking place with that % chance decreasing with time until re-replication completes, but while that % chance is higher, the amount of data loss would be lower
[1:54] <badone> Does it work on server3 or hardware-node-02?
[1:59] <badone> bbl
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[2:01] <adun153> badone: I'll try after I get the VPN connection working again.
[2:01] <adun153> I'm not sure what device it is on, either.
[2:02] <adun153> Just something that someone wanted me to take a look at.
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[2:23] <badone> adun153: very odd, ceph-disk should be able to see it. You should see a mount for it, that should help work out where it is located
[2:23] <adun153> badone: Or would it be like that if the OSD uses a directory, instead of a while disk?
[2:23] <adun153> *whole
[2:24] <badone> adun153: possible, but usually only for testing, not recommended for production
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[2:26] <adun153> Yeah, the whole setup is a bit dubious. :p
[2:26] <badone> adun153: the storage for the osd should include files named superblock, ceph_fsid, magic, store_version, whoami
[2:26] <badone> maybe you can find it that way?
[2:27] <adun153> okay. How can I find those information?
[2:27] <badone> search for files named superblock, ceph_fsid, magic, store_version, whoami ?
[2:27] <badone> find / -name superblock
[2:29] <badone> afraid I'm out again, Saturday morning and an election day here :P
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[2:35] <adun153> badone: Ah, thanks! Have a good day. May your elections be peaceful, and succesful.
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[8:58] <borei> hi all
[8:58] <borei> robbat2: are you here ?
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[8:58] <borei> ok
[8:59] <borei> can somebody help me with
[8:59] <borei> Block format 'raw' does not support the option 'password-secret'
[9:01] <borei> im tying to start VM (KVM and ceph backend), getting above error, but cant find explanation
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[9:23] <robbat2> borei: I answered you in PM yesterday
[9:23] <robbat2> if you want more info than that, pastebin your xml for the node
[9:26] <robbat2> the doc page you already linked to shows how to use libvirt secrets API too
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[15:04] <jiffe> how might I see which clients are currently connected via cephfs?
[15:05] <jiffe> (or in any manner because cephfs is the only thing I'm running on this)
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[15:36] <borei> hi robbat2: i read that doc up-down, down-up and on diag. I intentionally was making errors in th auth part, so ceph-mon was reporting about it in the log - it was clear. But I can't get where that error about relationship between raw disk and password-secret is coming from.
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[16:09] <koszik> i have 4 pgs in the down+remapped+peering state; down_osds_we_would_probe references a dead disk, but the data is still accessible in one of the probing_osds osd; i even tried manually copying the data, but to no avail. how should i proceed? marking the old osd 'lost' could fix it, or does it completely forget the pgs?
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[20:32] <robbat2> borei: that's why I said post the libvirt XML definition for your node;
[20:37] <borei> yep yep, couple sec. yesterday did cheam mount :-)
[20:38] <borei> recovering
[20:39] <borei> here we go
[20:39] <borei> http://pastebin.com/fwJnV7CY
[20:39] <borei> wait a sec you said for the node or for VM ?
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