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IRC Log for 2016-06-24

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[1:45] <- *johnavp1989* To prove that you are human, please enter the result of 8+3
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[2:34] <ronrib> what kind of read speeds do you see with cephfs for a single large file rsync? i'm seeing between 150mb/s and 200mb/s
[2:35] <ronrib> this is on a cephfs mount on a second machine connected over 10gb/s
[2:36] <ronrib> I'm also guessing the file I'm reading is still in ram cache on the ceph nodes, because it doesn't seem to cause any disk writes
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[2:40] <Lee> Howdy all, is there a way to setup groups in ceph? For example I have an object that a few million accounts need access to but it cannot be made public. Is there a way to say that this object is viewable by X groups and user Y is apart of group X?
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[3:09] <liamchou> Hi,when i ll my ceph folder it's size shows greater than 2t, but normal folder size is just 4096. I have to run a 32 bit software to access ceph folder, but you know 32bit software can not read the ceph folder greater than 2t. Would you please help me, thanks a lot!
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[4:50] <m0zes__> liamchou: norbytes is the mount option you want. although I would fix the software instead. it *shouldn???t* care about the ???size??? reported by a directory.
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[5:04] <liamchouz> wes_dillingham: Thanks for your reply. In normal use I don't care size as you said. Unfortunately my 32bit tools must load the folder mounted by ceph fs. Is there an option to disable true size showing for ceph folder ?
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[5:47] <ronrib> liamchouz: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/hammer/man/8/mount.ceph/ norbytes as m0zes__ said :)
[5:48] <m0zes__> the 32-bit tools should *not* be looking at the size of the inode. it literally does not matter. I would fix the 32-bit tool if at *all* possible.
[5:49] <m0zes__> nothing should care about the ???size??? reported by an inode, which is why the default mount option for ceph overrides it to show the user something useful ;)
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[7:27] <liamchouz> , I will try to use the option "norbytes", Thank your very much!!!
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[7:42] <libracious> hi, i am a student and i have just entered my final year of college and it requires me to select a project
[7:42] <libracious> i like ceph project and wanted to do my contribution in this area
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[7:42] <libracious> does any1 has any idea or recommendation what should i do
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[7:43] <libracious> we will be working in a group of 4 students
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[7:51] <badone> libracious: I'd suggest you send an email to ceph-devel mailing list with your question. We have some coordinators who have been working with GSOC students who should be able to help you
[7:51] <badone> libracious: ping me directly if that does not work and I will see what i can do
[7:55] <libracious> badone: i will send a mail, thankyou. you are right i am looking for mentor/coordinator
[7:55] <badone> libracious: sure, it should be no problem but please feel free to contact me directly if you have any problems
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[8:26] <nils_> so when upgrading to jewel images will be created by default with features that are incompatible with the kernel rbd driver. I wonder if I should disable those features or use qemu-nbd in the future?
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[8:35] <zdzichu> rbd-nbd seems to work with all features
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[9:17] <babilen> Hi all. Do hostnames in mon_initial_members have to resolve to IPs in public-network and match those in mon_hosts ?
[9:19] <babilen> (I want to switch to a different public-network and am unsure how to do that exactly in terms of configuration)
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[9:19] <nils_> zdzichu, thanks, I'll try that
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[9:24] <babilen> Essentially this: http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2015-November/006344.html
[9:24] <babilen> Which, unfortunately, hasn't been answered
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[10:25] <babilen> How do you stop all ceph daemons with systemd?
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[10:30] <babilen> It looks as if one has to explicitly stop each service individually with systemctl as everything documented on http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/operating/ doesn't appear to be working as detailed
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[10:30] <chengpeng> what should I do where cluster appear " Blocked ops"?
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[10:34] <badone> chengpeng: what does "ceph health detail" look like?
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[10:34] <chengpeng> 8 ops are blocked > 65.536 sec
[10:34] <chengpeng> 3 ops are blocked > 32.768 sec
[10:34] <chengpeng> 4 ops are blocked > 65.536 sec on osd.8
[10:34] <chengpeng> 4 ops are blocked > 65.536 sec on osd.9
[10:34] <chengpeng> 3 ops are blocked > 32.768 sec on osd.9
[10:35] <chengpeng> just test in my test cluster, not production env
[10:36] <badone> chengpeng: need to look at osd.8 and osd.9
[10:36] <chengpeng> I know this
[10:36] <chengpeng> but they are ok
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[10:36] <badone> chengpeng: then your question should have been, "I have slow requests on osd.8 and osd.9, how do I diagnose them?"
[10:37] <chengpeng> ye
[10:37] <chengpeng> I just stop one host, and test cluster
[10:38] <badone> chengpeng: try restarting 8
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[10:39] <chengpeng> I want to know what should I do when the situation will appear production env
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[10:41] <badone> chengpeng: so you restarted one of the osd hosts?
[10:41] <chengpeng> I do nothing,
[10:41] <chengpeng> this situation just test
[10:42] <badone> chengpeng: you just started seeing slow requests after doing nothing?
[10:42] <badone> there was no event that corresponded with the slow requests appearing?
[10:43] <chengpeng> first, I stop one host for this situation appear;
[10:43] <chengpeng> next, I don't know what should I do
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[10:43] <badone> chengpeng: isn't that what I said? "so you restarted one of the osd hosts?"
[10:43] <badone> chengpeng | I do nothing,
[10:43] <babilen> How does a mon decide which address to bind to? How do I change the public and private network? I obviously have to change values for mon_host, public-network and private-network, but in which order?
[10:44] <chengpeng> yes, now I try restart it
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[10:45] <badone> chengpeng: if you want to know what happened you'll need to go through the logs and look for indications. If that gives you nothing you may need to reproduce with a higher debugging log level
[10:46] <babilen> Well, I guess it is easier to just nuke everything and to start over
[10:46] <chengpeng> I seted osd_debug 20, and I review log now
[10:46] <chengpeng> thanks
[10:46] <badone> sure
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[10:49] <babilen> I just can't get my mons to bind to a new address
[10:49] <babilen> (nor am I sure how to set mon_host while I am in the process of restarting the daemons)
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[10:51] <babilen> And do entries in mon_initial_members have to resolve to an address in public-network ?
[10:52] <babilen> We just got fancy new network hardware and I'd like to use the better link, but changing the configuration seems to be impossible.
[10:53] <chengpeng> u can change mon ip
[10:53] <babilen> How?
[10:53] <chengpeng> you can find it from offical doc
[10:55] <badone> chengpeng: your slow requests may be related to recovery after the node comes back up
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[10:55] <chengpeng> actual not
[10:56] <chengpeng> badone, cluster donot start recover
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[10:56] <badone> chengpeng: why not?
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[10:57] <badone> not down long enough?
[10:57] <chengpeng> cluster haven't started recover yet
[10:57] <babilen> chengpeng: I haven't found anything that would explain it. I would be quite grateful if you could provide a link.
[10:57] <chengpeng> I get it via ceph -s
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[10:58] <badone> chengpeng: okay, so back to the debug logs then...
[10:58] <chengpeng> yes
[10:59] <chengpeng> I view the log
[10:59] <chengpeng> now
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[11:01] <babilen> chengpeng: I am using a configuration such as https://www.refheap.com/767d519cd39f670f4dda9d561 but the mon still binds to an address in a different network. In fact it binds to the address "srv01" resolves to.
[11:01] <badone> you could try looking at dump_historic_ops and dump_ops_in_flight as well
[11:02] <chengpeng> ok, thank U for your help
[11:02] <badone> np
[11:03] <chengpeng> CHANGING A MONITOR?S IP ADDRESS
[11:03] <chengpeng> http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/add-or-rm-mons/
[11:03] <chengpeng> babilen, this link
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[11:04] <babilen> Thanks!
[11:04] <babilen> So I have to add explicit entries for each mon in the ceph.conf ?
[11:04] <babilen> Do I have to ensure that "hostname -s" resolves to an address in public-network ?
[11:05] <chengpeng> no
[11:05] <chengpeng> anyone hostname
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[11:08] <babilen> Looks easier to just start over
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[11:22] <liamchouz> I tried execute mount.ceph HPStore1:6789:/file /file -o norbytes , FATAL: Module ceph not found.
[11:22] <liamchouz> failed to load ceph kernel module (1)
[11:22] <liamchouz> mount error: ceph filesystem not supported by the system
[11:24] <liamchouz> ceph-fuse -m HPStore1:6789 /file -o norbytes
[11:24] <liamchouz> shows error:fuse: unknown option `norbytes'
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[11:26] <badone> liamchouz: what does modinfo ceph say
[11:27] <badone> and where is ceph.ko on your system?
[11:28] <badone> modinfo ceph|head -1
[11:28] <badone> filename: /lib/modules/4.5.7-300.fc24.x86_64/kernel/fs/ceph/ceph.ko.xz
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[11:30] <liamchouz> modinfo ceph said: ERROR: modinfo: could not find module ceph
[11:31] <zdzichu> hm, ceph is in kernel-core here
[11:31] <zdzichu> liamchouz: what distribution?
[11:32] <liamchouz> RHEL6.6 install ceph via "ceph-deploy install"
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[11:36] <chengpeng> sst file
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[12:06] <chrome0> hello cephers -- i would like to know the disk usage of the rados gw index. it has a pool of its own, but the disk usage as per "rados df" shows up as 0 even though there's millions of obj in the rgw pool proper
[12:07] <chrome0> the index has been set up with sharding, rgw_override_bucket_index_max_shards
[12:07] <chrome0> rados df tells me theres 70 obj. in the index pool, fwiw
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[12:33] <winggundamth> I got problem "rbd: unprotecting snap failed: (16) Device or resource busy" when trying to unprotect snapshot. anyone fix this before?
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[12:34] <badone> liamchouz: you'll need to find the package for rhel6 that installs the kernel module if there is one
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[12:40] <liamchouz> <m0zes__> : RHEL6.6 only support cept-fuse to mount ceph fs, I can not find any option to set "norbytes". Any suggestions?
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[12:42] <liamchouz> <badone>: ceph-deploy install doesn't have kernel module?
[12:44] <overclk> winggundamth: latest master?
[12:44] <winggundamth> overclk: I'm using ceph version 10.2.1 (3a66dd4f30852819c1bdaa8ec23c795d4ad77269)
[12:45] <vikhyat> winggundamth: can you run rbd status in the image
[12:45] <vikhyat> may be clone is in use
[12:45] <vikhyat> and you are trying to unprotect the snapshot
[12:46] <vikhyat> overclk: mostly to me looks like in use issue
[12:46] <vikhyat> rbd status in clone id should give the result if clone is in use
[12:46] <winggundamth> # rbd status --pool cinder-volumes --image volume-d9d91a7b-ea19-4929-b7c0-c979aac9a3f4
[12:46] <winggundamth> Watchers: none
[12:46] <winggundamth> vikhayat: is this what you want?
[12:46] <vikhyat> right
[12:47] <overclk> vikhyat: winggundamth: yep -- mostly. I didn't see the "device busy..." msg
[12:47] <vikhyat> but you ran in image
[12:47] <vikhyat> you need to run same command for clone
[12:47] <vikhyat> of this image
[12:47] <vikhyat> I think this one is parent image
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[12:48] <vikhyat> rbd -p volumes ls -l should give you the details
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[12:48] <winggundamth> vikhyat: please check here http://paste.openstack.org/show/521904/
[12:49] <winggundamth> I don't think it has parent image
[12:50] <vikhyat> snapshot-da3b38b8-5aa2-42b4-97b9-c4dfd2591e13
[12:50] <vikhyat> this is the snapshot
[12:50] <vikhyat> and it is protected
[12:51] <vikhyat> winggundamth: are you trying to unprotect his one
[12:51] <winggundamth> vikhyat: yes.
[12:52] <vikhyat> volume-e22eacad-65f1-4db1-94b4-3b531c395bf0.deleted
[12:52] <vikhyat> but I think this one is still has entry of this snap
[12:52] <vikhyat> see last two lines
[12:53] <vikhyat> can you please check volume-e22eacad-65f1-4db1-94b4-3b531c395bf0
[12:53] <vikhyat> if it is not in use then you need to delete
[12:53] <vikhyat> first
[12:53] <winggundamth> vikhyat: http://paste.openstack.org/show/521905/ this is error when I try to unprotect
[12:53] <vikhyat> its snapshot
[12:53] <vikhyat> and this image
[12:53] <vikhyat> right
[12:53] <vikhyat> winggundamth: you need to cleanup
[12:54] <vikhyat> volume-e22eacad-65f1-4db1-94b4-3b531c395bf0
[12:54] <vikhyat> this one
[12:54] <vikhyat> first
[12:54] <vikhyat> as this is still using snapshot-da3b38b8-5aa2-42b4-97b9-c4dfd2591e13
[12:54] <winggundamth> vikhyat: let me try to delete it
[12:54] <vikhyat> first unprotect snap
[12:54] <vikhyat> for this one
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[12:55] <overclk> vikhyat: the clones (if any) need to be flattened too, correct?
[12:56] <vikhyat> overclk: if you want to use them in future
[12:56] <vikhyat> and you want to remove the parent and child relationship
[12:57] <vikhyat> otherwise not needed if you just want to delete the clone as now you do not want to use it
[12:58] <overclk> vikhyat: hmm, so it's not necessary to flatten before unprotecting?
[12:59] <vikhyat> overclk: but I think if you have clone it wont allow you to unprotect ?
[12:59] <vikhyat> you need to delete the clone
[12:59] <vikhyat> and if you do not want to delete the clone then flatten
[12:59] <winggundamth> vikhyat: that fix it. thanks :)
[12:59] <overclk> vikhyat: yeh or flatten it
[13:00] <vikhyat> overclk: right
[13:00] <vikhyat> winggundamth: np _o/
[13:01] <badone> liamchouz: I think you answered that question already
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[13:01] <vikhyat> badone: hey buddy what about friday night :)
[13:02] <badone> vikhyat: I'm watching a movie :)
[13:02] <vikhyat> badone: ahh now I get it :D
[13:03] <badone> vikhyat: do you remember whether there are kernel modules for rhel6 anywhere?
[13:03] <badone> ceph.ko
[13:03] <vikhyat> badone: at least not in downstream
[13:03] <vikhyat> may be for centos
[13:03] <badone> I don't think they ever shipped with rhel right?
[13:03] <liamchouz> badnoe: I should update my kernel, Thanks :)
[13:03] <vikhyat> right
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[13:03] <badone> yeah, right
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[13:04] <vikhyat> it came from 7.1
[13:04] <badone> liamchouz: you may have a hard time finding them
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[13:04] <badone> for rhel6 at least
[13:04] <badone> maybe epel or some centos package
[13:06] <badone> but the modules are likely to be quite old I'd suspect
[13:06] <masterpe> Hi, On an ubuntu xenial install, when I run "/usr/bin/rbdmap map", I get the following error: "/usr/bin/rbdmap: 32: /usr/bin/rbdmap: Bad substitution
[13:06] <T1w> I've never seen ceph-related stuff from epel
[13:06] <badone> T1w: yes, normally on download.ceph.com
[13:07] <vikhyat> badone: http://gitbuilder.ceph.com/kernel-rpm-rhel6-x86_64-basic/sha1/0a4b6d4ff200a553951f77f765971cb3e4c91ec0/
[13:07] <vikhyat> I am not sure if it will have
[13:07] <vikhyat> I am not sure also what it is
[13:07] <vikhyat> :P
[13:07] <masterpe> after chaning the interperter from /bin/sh to /bin/bash, the error has been disapeer
[13:07] <badone> yeah, definitely not mainline :P
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[13:09] <vikhyat> right
[13:09] <T1w> IUS doesn't have any ceph-related stuff either
[13:09] <T1w> just saying.. :)
[13:09] <T1w> epel and ius is quite useful for other stuff though
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[13:10] <liamchouz> I think so. I have to try that. :(
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[14:38] <laevar> hi, i tried to improve cephfs performance with using ssd for the metadata-pool (all other osd are platter) but it seems it is not faster at all and sometimes even much slower. There were also other changes to the cluster (mainly it wa getting bigger), so perhaps this has some effect, but: how can i analyse where the bottleneck is?
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[15:53] <devicenull> mon.xx store is getting too big! 25079 MB >= 15360 MB
[15:53] <devicenull> how can I prevent these? on a weekly basis at this point I'm having to run 'ceph tell mon.* compact
[15:53] <devicenull> this is with 'version 9.2.0 (bb2ecea240f3a1d525bcb35670cb07bd1f0ca299)'
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[17:01] <Hatsjoe> Hello, I have an issue, I have 2 pools with 4096 pgs each (8192 total) and 72 OSDs, I was testing how Ceph would handle it if I took out 1 OSD node (24 OSDs) using "ceph osd out {id...}", and when I did that, it started the relocating as you would expect, but then threw me an error: "too many PGs per OSD (341 > max 300)", as far as I know, 8192/48=170 so not even near 341, what would cause this behaviour?
[17:02] <Hatsjoe> Also, I have put the OSDs back in, so there are total of 72 OSDs again, but the warning remains
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[17:04] <Hatsjoe> Also tried lowering the pg count by half when I had the OSDs removed using "pg osd pool set {pool} pg_num 2048" but then got the error: "Error EEXIST: specified pg_num 2048 <= current 4096" and the following line remains in the "ceph -s" output: "pool rbdbench pg_num 4096 > pgp_num 2048"
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[17:12] <DanFoster> Hatsjoe: 341 is 170*2+1. Is it something to do with your replication rules?
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[17:15] <Hatsjoe> Using the default rules (very basic setup) and "size: 3" is set for both pools, and "min_size" is set at 2
[17:15] <Hatsjoe> I guess that is where the 170*2+1 comes from?
[17:17] <Hatsjoe> DanFoster, also, why would it keep complaining about too many PGs when I have put all the OSDs back in?
[17:17] <DanFoster> I'm afraid that's all I have to offer - more an interested observer than an experienced user!
[17:20] <Hatsjoe> Haha alright, thanks anyway!
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[17:49] <loganb> I am wondering if I issue a ceph osd deep-scrub osd.1 to my cluster, will that take priority over a ceph.conf setting?
[17:50] <loganb> well, actually my question is if I issue multiple scrubs via the cli, but my ceph.conf has a limit of 1. which "wins"
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[18:27] <etienneme> ceph.conf I think
[18:27] <etienneme> when I ceph osd deep-scrub, the deep scrub is not started just after, it takes time before starting.
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[19:46] <loganb> etienneme, thanks
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[20:36] <TheSov3> i want ceph ported to BSD
[20:36] <TheSov3> cuz that would be awesome
[20:39] <BranchPredictor> that's work in progress
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[21:49] <Roland-> Hi folks, willing to implement ceph, rbd only. I ahve 3 nodes, each with 2 ssds. Interconnected via dedicated 10G. Each ssd (osd) has ~80k iops. What would be an expected performance ?
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[22:26] <[arx]> not enough information to go off of
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[22:27] <Roland-> Ok, for the average, 12 core cpus, 64g ram
[22:28] <Roland-> each ssd has 800GB
[22:28] <Roland-> I am mostly interested in performance
[22:28] <T1> probably above n
[22:30] <Roland-> Sorry I don't understand
[22:30] <T1> "it depends"
[22:30] <Roland-> ok
[22:31] <T1> there is no way of telling if you should expect n or m IOPS or n or m MB/s read or writes
[22:31] <Roland-> ok
[22:32] <T1> so your expected performance is probably above n - for whatever value of n you choose and for whatever type of performance statistics it represents
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[23:15] <Roland-> Ok, I am testing it myself
[23:15] <Roland-> now, I get write error: No such device or address
[23:16] <Roland-> when doing the /sys/bus/rbd/add ad thing
[23:16] <Roland-> it is an rbd format: 2
[23:17] <Roland-> ah got it
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