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IRC Log for 2016-06-23

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[0:48] <bsanders> Trying to go through a manual install of Jewel 10.2.2 on CentOS 7.2 and getting stuck fairly early while trying to start the first MON. ceph-create-keys complains that the admin socket file doesn't exist. Any ideas?
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[1:19] <bsanders> Not sure which process is supposed to create the admin socket file, but the permissions to /var/run/ceph/ appear to allow the ceph user to do whatever they need.
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[1:32] <bsanders> Nevermind. Permissions problem when running ceph-mon --mkfs. Several of the commands in the manual steps haven't been updated and need to be run as sudo -u ceph :o/
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[1:48] <- *johnavp1989* To prove that you are human, please enter the result of 8+3
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[4:00] <t4nk212> I am using radosgw as object storage in openstack liberty. I am using ceph jewel. Currently I can create public and private containers. But cannot change the access of containers ie. cannot change a public container to private and vice versa. There is pop-up. "Success: Successfully updated container access to public." But access is not changing. Couldn't find any errors in logs. I tried with ceph-infernalis, but couldn't recreate this with infernalis. Everyth
[4:01] <t4nk212> Everything worked with infernalis. Could this be a bug with ceph jewel?
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[4:05] <t4nk212> is there a bug in jewel regarding radosgw bucket access
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[4:22] <t4nk212> I am using radosgw as object storage in openstack liberty. I am using ceph jewel. Currently I can create public and private containers. But cannot change the access of containers ie. cannot change a public container to private and vice versa. There is pop-up. "Success: Successfully updated container access to public." But access is not changing. Couldn't find any errors in logs. I tried with ceph-infernalis, but couldn't recreate this with infernalis.
[4:22] <t4nk212> Everything worked with infernalis. Could this be a bug with ceph jewel?
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[4:32] <IvanJobs> Hi cephers, I'm currently deploying ceph on CentOS 7.2. I didn't has internet access for all server nodes. So how Can I create a yum repo for local use?
[4:38] <motk> just mirror the repo with curl or wget or rsync?
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[4:52] <- *johnavp1989* To prove that you are human, please enter the result of 8+3
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[4:56] <badone> createrepo
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[5:02] <IvanJobs_> thx, I got it.
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[5:25] <viisking> hi all
[5:25] <viisking> I got an issue will Ceph Block storage
[5:26] <viisking> there are 2 servers with the same mountpoint
[5:26] <viisking> in server1, when I create one file on Ceph storage
[5:27] <viisking> it doesn't show up in server2
[5:27] <viisking> is anyone know that?
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[7:28] <iggy> lol, I bet they've got ext3 or something shared between 2 hosts... poor, poor bastard
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[7:37] <borei_> hi all
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[7:37] <borei_> i need some help, stuck completely
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[7:37] <borei_> i do migration of my VM to ceph backed-up cluster
[7:38] <borei_> hosts are running centos 7.2, xen 4.6, ceph 10.2
[7:38] <borei_> can't fireup VM, seems like it doesn't see disk
[7:39] <borei_> disk configured as
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[7:39] <borei_> disk = [ 'backendtype=qdisk,vdev=xvda,target=rbd:vm_images/vol-spacewalk:id=admin:conf=/etc/ceph/ceph.conf' ]
[7:40] <borei_> it works under ubuntu, but centos - no luck
[7:40] <borei_> when i start VM i see
[7:40] <borei_> XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vbd/51712
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[7:43] <borei_> anybody ?
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[8:09] <iggy> maybe check version differences between centos and ubuntu? I know traditionally in qemu land when people have questions about RH based distros we tell them to get support from their distro as the versions are heavily patched
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[9:24] <Lee> Howdy all, is there a way to setup groups in ceph? For example I have an object that a few million accounts need access to but it cannot be made private. Is there a way to say that this object is viewable by X groups and user Y is apart of group X?
[9:25] <Lee> *cannot be made public
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[9:42] <micw> hi
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[11:22] <arcimboldo> Hi all, I'm confused by the output of "ceph df"
[11:23] <arcimboldo> I have 4 pools all using the same ruleset
[11:23] <arcimboldo> it seems like the "AVAIL" space is split over the 4 pools, is that correct?
[11:23] <arcimboldo> or it's just the way ceph df formats things?
[11:24] <arcimboldo> I'm asking because one of these pools has to use most of the cluster space, while the others are way smaller
[11:24] <arcimboldo> and I don't want to run out of space on the "big" pool
[11:24] <arcimboldo> i.e. ending up in a situation where the cluster is 30% full but the pool is 100%
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[11:43] <TMM> well, that is interesting, I have a hammer cluster and I now have a bunch of osds on different nodes just crashing for no reason it seems
[11:43] <TMM> and they don't want to come back either
[11:43] <rkeene> TMM, load average too high ?
[11:43] <TMM> no, not at all
[11:43] <TMM> http://paste.debian.net/747411/
[11:44] <TMM> load on that box is less than 3
[11:44] <TMM> it's happening all over the cluster
[11:47] <rkeene> Seems like symbols have been removed -- can you add them back so a more useful trace could be had ?
[11:48] <TMM> ah yeah, I probably need to install the dbg packages
[11:48] <TMM> sec
[11:48] <TMM> hmm, no debug package for ceph, I guess some other libraries then
[11:49] <rkeene> The debugging information for Ceph is around 2GB, so.... good luck !
[11:49] <rkeene> :-D
[11:49] <TMM> that's fine, if they are packaged
[11:49] <rkeene> Well, I package them... for my distribution ;-D
[11:49] <TMM> I'm using the ceph.org packages for centos7
[11:50] <rkeene> Might have to recompile and make your own debuginfo packages
[11:50] <TMM> http://download.ceph.com/rpm-hammer/el7/x86_64/ <-- seems like there is one
[11:51] <rkeene> Excellent
[11:51] <rkeene> Only 700MB too, yay compression
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[11:57] <TMM> rkeene, installing...
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[12:01] <sep> when doing hardware scaling. and thinking one core = 1 osd, as it saies in the wiki. does that mean with or without Hyperthreading. iow can you run 8 or 16 osd's on Dual quadcore with HT ?
[12:01] <TMM> rkeene, hum it seems that the log doesn't automatically use this debug info
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[12:02] <rkeene> TMM, Get it to generate a core, then
[12:03] <TMM> why didn't I think of that...
[12:03] <TMM> thanks :)
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[12:10] <TMM> rkeene, ok, got a core
[12:11] <rkeene> Now gdb ceph-osd core
[12:11] <rkeene> Then you can get a backtrace
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[12:11] <TMM> yeah, I know :)
[12:12] <TMM> rkeene, http://paste.debian.net/747457/
[12:12] <TMM> looks like I need some libstdc++ debug fiels too
[12:12] <rkeene> Not really
[12:13] <rkeene> You know the issue is at common/buffer.c:1513
[12:13] <TMM> well I guess I don't really care about exactly what exception gets thrown
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[12:14] <rkeene> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/v0.94.7/src/common/buffer.cc#L1513
[12:15] <TMM> oh, lovely
[12:16] <rkeene> up up up up up and see what you can see :-D
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[12:16] <rkeene> up #10 might work too, I don't remember
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[12:17] <TMM> hmm, nothing that really jumps out at me that I could fix with a configuration change
[12:18] <rkeene> Given that it happens during I/O, I think you'll be looking at a bug
[12:18] <TMM> yup
[12:18] <TMM> that's great
[12:18] <TMM> all that I needed today :P
[12:18] <rkeene> If you want to change a config there's...
[12:19] <TMM> well, I don't particularly want to change anything, but right now I have 11 down pgs
[12:19] <TMM> which is somewhat suboptimal :)
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[12:22] <rkeene> Actually, your problem looks like it wouldn't be helped by what I had
[12:22] <rkeene> Using erasure coded pools /
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[12:22] <TMM> you had something similar?
[12:23] <TMM> yeah, restarting any of the osds just makes the problem reappear
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[12:24] <rkeene> I had something similar, but it was not related to erasure coded pools
[12:25] <IvanJobs_> viisking??? Can Ceph RBD be shared among servers?
[12:25] <TMM> can I run infernalis osds with hammer mons? I wonder if those will be able to continue
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[12:26] <rkeene> TMM, You can try this, if you want, but I don't think it'll matter
[12:26] <rkeene> rbd_non_blocking_aio = false
[12:26] <rkeene> TMM, Normally the mons have to be upgraded first
[12:27] <TMM> hmm iok
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[12:29] <TMM> rkeene, hum, it kind of looks like this: http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/7423
[12:29] <TMM> but this was supposed to have been fixed 2 years a go
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[12:30] <rkeene> Maybe it's back :-D
[12:31] <TMM> trying to find the actual patch
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[12:33] <rkeene> http://tracker.ceph.com/projects/ceph/repository/revisions/927153f5c7ffd8d5f0a4a9a770f68aa9d2021c9f/diff/src/osd/ReplicatedPG.cc is the diff
[12:33] <rkeene> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/v0.94.7/src/osd/ReplicatedPG.cc#L1274 is the code in your trace where it is in ReplicatedPG.cc
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[12:35] <TMM> hmm, doesn't touch the the codepath I'm seeing then
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[13:18] <babilen> I'm playing with ceph-deploy and have 6 nodes in total that I want to deploy OSDs on. I take it that I should deploy mons only on a subset of them so that the number os mons is uneven (e.g. 3). Is that correct?
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[13:45] <- *johnavp1989* To prove that you are human, please enter the result of 8+3
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[14:04] <micw> how can i remove a ceph fs?
[14:04] <micw> i always get: all MDS daemons must be inactive before removing filesystem
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[14:25] <BlaXpirit> micw, well have you deactivated them? (metadata servers)?
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[14:30] <micw> BlaXpirit, obviously not ^^
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[14:30] <micw> after i kliied the processes it worked
[14:30] <micw> killed
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[15:24] <- *johnavp1989* To prove that you are human, please enter the result of 8+3
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[15:36] <nttec> What's the difference between object and file? I'm planning to use ceph as my storage what should I put on my ceph server?
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[15:37] <T1> read a bit more
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[15:38] <T1> that question should become oblivious once you understand how ceph works
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[15:42] <nttec> Still reading. . .
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[16:00] <Vasily> hey guys, is someone here who is good with RGW?
[16:00] <Vasily> i need some urgent help
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[16:03] <mistur> hello
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[16:03] <mistur> I try to find the good url auth base for swift on a jewel cluster
[16:03] <mistur> it's ceph only cluster with radosgw and no keystone
[16:04] <mistur> I don't have an openstack cluster
[16:04] <mistur> I try many combinaison of http://<server>:5000/api/v0.1/auth
[16:04] <mistur> with /auth or without for example
[16:04] <mistur> but I don't fonr the good one and the documentation is definitly not clear
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[16:34] <m0zes__> If anybody needs to extract data out of cephfs, with the mds server down, have I got a quick and dirty writeup for you ;) https://support.beocat.ksu.edu/BeocatDocs/index.php/General:Ceph
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[16:35] <T1> heh
[16:36] <T1> evil, but nice
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[16:43] <johnavp1989> m0zes_: Since you see to know your way around cephfs :) Can I ask if you've ever encountered occasional write failures to cephfs?
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[16:45] <johnavp1989> Most of the time I can write to the volume, but every 5 writes or so will fail and just hang. The file will be created but it's size will never increase beyond 4M
[16:46] <jlayton> 4M is the typical stripe size, maybe a problem writing to the second OSD?
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[16:49] <johnavp1989> jlayton: Interesting. The cluster reports healthy but I'm not very familiar with troubleshooting ceph. There's nothing in the ceph logs on the OSD's
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[16:52] <m0zes__> you may have a failing osd.
[16:53] <m0zes__> I???d check dmesg, and smart status of the disks.
[16:53] <Be-El> m0zes__: in that case the request to the osd should show up in the ceph log
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[16:54] <m0zes__> should, but I???ve had several disk failures (in jewel at least) that have *not* shown any hung requests. even when it locked up all my vms for 12 hours.
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[16:55] <m0zes__> I rewrote the size/segment extraction section of the above writeup.
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[16:56] <m0zes__> this is all based on black box poking and prodding, btw ;)
[16:57] <rubenk> I'm having a bit of trouble preparing OSD's on Jewel
[16:57] * jlayton is still getting his feet wet with ceph as well
[16:57] <rubenk> anyone familiar with this error? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/383734/46669381/
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[17:03] <johnavp1989> SMART Health Status returns ok for all 26 disk. Not a thing troubling in dmesg either
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[17:04] <johnavp1989> I did realize that I never setup ntp on the MDS. Could that introduce this type of issue?
[17:04] <m0zes__> strange. I???d keep an eye on ???ceph osd perf??? looking for ones that are routinely slowere.
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[17:07] <johnavp1989> m0zes_: ok very cool. does this show latency at the given moment of is it average?
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[17:09] <m0zes__> given moment.
[17:11] <m0zes__> You might want to whip up something that can calculate average and stddev, and only shows ones that are outside 1 or 2 std deviations. then you can run that for an hour, and see if there is a certain osd that shows up more often that not.
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[17:11] <m0zes__> that???s what I???d do, but I like numbers ;)
[17:11] <johnavp1989> ok so I just hit the issue again. when it's happening there's no activity on the OSD's. No disk IO'
[17:12] <m0zes__> is the journal on a seperate disk?
[17:12] <johnavp1989> yes it is
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[17:26] <scuttlemonkey> REMINDER: Our second Ceph Tech Talk is starting in ~1.5 hours. http://ceph.com/ceph-tech-talks/
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[17:43] <rkeene> TMM, Get everything going ?
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[18:06] <TMM> rkeene, yeah, it took 6 hours though
[18:07] <rkeene> What was the problem ?
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[18:08] <TMM> rkeene, fuck if I know. I've kept the cores etc and I'll do some investigations. I'm also keeping the osds that failed.
[18:08] <TMM> rkeene, In the end what I did was restart all osds, one by one, across all nodes, this 'unstuck' 4 of the 8 osds that weren't working anymore
[18:09] <TMM> then I still had 4 that failed after a couple of minutes of service, one by one
[18:09] <TMM> I set their weight to 0 and put them in a restart loop, as they worked for long enough to get some data off of them
[18:09] <TMM> then I noticed that if once crashed and I restarted that one, the other 3 wouldn't fail...
[18:09] <TMM> so I've just kept that up for 2 hours or so, then the critical data was no longer on the failed osds and I just let them crash
[18:10] <TMM> had a *ton* of datamovement
[18:10] <TMM> but it's all accessible and consistent now
[18:10] <rkeene> Hopefully :-)
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[18:11] <TMM> well, ceph seems to think it is
[18:11] <TMM> all pgs are active
[18:11] <rkeene> I just mean until the problem infects more OSDs
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[18:11] <TMM> sure, I hope that that doesn't happen until the current rebuild is over
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[18:11] <TMM> because if it happens again now I think I should just go and find myself another job :P
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[18:59] <scuttlemonkey> REMINDER: Our second monthly Ceph Tech Talk is starting momentarily. http://ceph.com/ceph-tech-talks/
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[19:11] <bsanders> Is it expected behavior that ceph-disk prepare assigns an OSD id? It seems like that didn't used to be the case in Firefly? It kind of messes up parallelism when bringing up a ceph cluster. Or am I just doing it wrong?
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[19:16] <bsanders> What I seem to remember was that prepare took a while (formatting) and then activate was what assigned an ID, and was pretty quick. So I could do ceph-disk prepare on all disks in a cluster in parallel, wait for them to finish, and then ceph-disk activate on them in sequence so that OSD 1-N were on the same host, N-X on the next.
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[19:34] <bsanders> Maybe this is a udev thing? Other people do see this, right? Jewel from ceph.com on CentOS7.2
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[19:39] <Sketch> as far as i can tell it just assigns the osds in the order you create them
[19:40] <bsanders> Sketch: 'prepare' does?
[19:40] <Sketch> yeah
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[19:42] <bsanders> Hmm. Seems like that either leaves you in the situation of not doing all of your OSD prepare's in sequence, or not caring where your OSD's end up (eg a host has OSD 3, 28, 23, 16, 50, 1, and 12, instead of 1-8)
[19:44] <bsanders> Rather, you have to do them in sequence, or you have to not care about them being in random order if you do it in parallel
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[19:50] <koollman> bsanders: not caring seems easiest
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[19:54] <bsanders> koollman: Yeah. Looks like it is done by udev, as disabling the ceph udev rules disables the prepare-assigning-id's behavior, but then obviously breaks the auto-ceph-user-disk-handling
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[22:08] <infernix> is there some way to stop/restart backfills? meaning, if max_backfills is set too high and backfills start, they are all queued; reducing max_backfills doesn't affect the running number of them
[22:08] <infernix> setting osd nobackfill pauses them but doesn't reduce the amount of active ones at any given time
[22:09] <infernix> i can't find anything other than restarting osds
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[22:12] <T1> the rates for backfill cannot be changed once a backfill operation has been started
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[22:13] <infernix> that's what i'm seeing yeah
[22:14] <infernix> i'm just toggling nobackfill on and off in a sleep loop
[22:14] <infernix> works, but not ideal
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[22:32] <fenfen> hello
[22:33] <fenfen> i have a problem with presigned v4 urls
[22:33] <fenfen> am i right here or should i go to ceph-devel
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[23:43] <billwebb> other than power loss, what is the concern of using writeback cache on OSD drives?
[23:43] <billwebb> ???and journal drives?
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[23:49] <davidzlap1> billwebb: What more reason do you need then data loss?
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