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IRC Log for 2016-06-20

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[6:48] <kefu> yanzheng, hey
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[7:07] <ronrib> TheSov2: a slight warning, I had trouble with rbd mounts and live migration when I was testing a few months ago
[7:07] <ronrib> sometimes they just wouldn't work
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[8:44] <IvanJobs> hi cephers, I use cmake to build cephv0.94.6, encountered a problem when I executing "cmake .." from my build dir.
[8:44] <IvanJobs> CMake Error at src/test/CMakeLists.txt:1124 (add_executable):
[8:44] <IvanJobs> Cannot find source file:
[8:45] <IvanJobs> librbd/fsx.c
[8:45] <IvanJobs> Anyone has experience of this error?
[8:45] <destrudo_> pb the complete cmake log
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[8:45] <IvanJobs> wait for a moment.
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[8:46] <IvanJobs> take a look at this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17582284/
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[8:50] <destrudo> does the file actually exist?
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[8:51] <kefu> IvanJobs, that file was renamed to fsx.cc after we added it to CMakeLists.txt.
[8:52] <IvanJobs> destrudo, no, not under librbd dir.
[8:52] <kefu> in other words, the cmake is out of sync with autotools in v0.94.6.
[8:52] <destrudo> so even though it says tried extensions (With .cc), it doesn't?
[8:52] <IvanJobs> ./src/test/fsx.c
[8:53] <IvanJobs> I think dir is changed.
[8:53] <kefu> ./src/test/librbd/fsx.cc
[8:53] <IvanJobs> kefu, so under v0.94.6, cmake doesn't work. Which version should I try? 0.94.7? I need to do something under hammer version.
[8:54] <kefu> cmake support is still a WIP.
[8:54] <kefu> it should work fine in jewel.
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[8:55] <IvanJobs> hmm, I see. It's not fully ready for use.
[8:55] <kefu> but in hammer, i am not sure.
[8:55] <kefu> right. =(
[8:55] <IvanJobs> kefu, destrudo, thx guys.
[8:55] <destrudo> I seem to remember fighting with it when I was doing some strange ass arm build
[8:56] <IvanJobs> I will turn back to make.
[8:56] <kefu> IvanJobs, and in jewel, we only use for development, it is not used for packaging or integration testing though
[8:58] <kefu> destrudo, yeah, we don't have a cmake gitbuilder on aarch64.
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[8:59] <destrudo> I don't even remember what I did do make stuff work; or whether or not I used cmake.
[8:59] <destrudo> I copied it with my mods though
[8:59] * destrudo looks
[8:59] <destrudo> oh; looks like I struggled with dpkg-ing it
[8:59] <kefu> very likely not cmake
[9:00] <destrudo> yeah
[9:00] <destrudo> it's clean.
[9:00] <destrudo> write all my own cmake garbage in some attempt to make it work
[9:00] <destrudo> no, I don't think I've got that much time on my hands.
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[9:03] <destrudo> I've been holding off on cephfs-ing for so long
[9:03] <destrudo> I hardly know what to do now that it's done
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[10:31] <Animazing> hey guys, having two OSD nodes that keep giving me 'heartbeat_check no reply from osd.xx ever on either front or back' errors. ALl other nodes work fine but these two say they can't reach each other.
[10:31] <Animazing> Any idea what's up with that?
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[10:32] <Be-El> is just one host affected? or are the osds distributed across several hosts?
[10:32] <Animazing> These are two hosts, with each 9 OSDs
[10:32] <Animazing> the one host gives errors about the other
[10:32] <Animazing> and visa versa
[10:33] <Animazing> I can ping the cluster network ips from both just fine
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[10:35] <Be-El> did you change your ceph configuration and restarted the affected osds afterwards?
[10:36] <Animazing> I tried rebooting all osds on booth nodes, yes
[10:36] <Animazing> I first noticed this when adding monitors
[10:36] <Animazing> because the cluster starting degrading when I added a monitor to one of the osds
[10:36] <Animazing> but I don't know if it happened before that or if that was the cause
[10:37] <Be-El> so the other osds in the affected hosts are fine and running on the same configuration, only the two osds do not behave correctly?
[10:38] <Animazing> No sorry, two whole OSD nodes give these errors for all OSDs on the other node
[10:38] <Animazing> So I have two physical servers with 9 OSDs each
[10:38] <Animazing> Server A gives errors about not being able to reach all the OSDs in Server B
[10:38] <Animazing> and Server B about all OSDs in server A
[10:39] <Be-El> and there are also servers C, D, E.... ?
[10:39] <Heebie> Are firewalls open for *ALL* ports that have OSD's on them?
[10:39] <Animazing> Yeah 6 in total
[10:39] <Animazing> Heebie: yeah
[10:40] <Be-El> Animazing: did you check the network connectivity for the osd ports, e.g. telnet <other osd host> 6800
[10:40] <Be-El> (or whatever port the osds are listening on)
[10:41] <Animazing> Let me try that speficially
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[10:42] <Animazing> yeah that seems to work
[10:42] <Animazing> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pqrrjlyk6zp4htg/Screenshot%202016-06-20%2010.42.38.png?dl=0
[10:42] <Animazing> if this is intedend output that is
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[10:52] <Animazing> Be-El: any other ideas?
[10:53] <Be-El> Animazing: none except for network related debugging (dropped packages / bad ports/cables/connectors)
[10:53] <Animazing> Alrighty, thanks for thinking with me
[10:54] <Be-El> Animazing: you can dump the complete configuration of a running OSD using the admin socket and compare it for the affected and the unaffected ones
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[10:54] <Animazing> thanks will give that a whril as well
[10:54] <Animazing> whirl*
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[10:58] <Animazing> Be-El: I see some indication that it's trying to connect from the public network to the cluster network, that shouldn't be possible right?
[10:58] <Animazing> 0 -- 192.168.1.10:0/15329 >> PUBLICIP:6806/6465 pipe(0x7f9910761000 sd=64 :0 s=1 pgs=0 cs=0 l=1 c=0x7f9910f7e100).fault
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[10:58] <Be-El> Animazing: not as far as i understood the ceph network setup
[10:59] <Animazing> let me hardcode the ips
[10:59] <Animazing> see what happens
[10:59] <Be-El> the internal network is solely used to backfill traffic/heartbeats and can be completely isolated
[10:59] <Animazing> yeah that's why I don't understand why it's trying to reach the node via a public ip
[10:59] <Be-El> in our setup both networks are isolated and even have different media (ethernet vs. infiniband, not gateway between them)
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[11:18] <realitysandwich> can anyone tell me why with debian service ceph stop osx.X isn't switching an osd from up to down?
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[11:46] <Heebie> are you really use "osx.X" rather than "osd.<N>" ?
[11:47] <realitysandwich> no, its osd.16
[11:47] <Heebie> (I'm guessing you just type osx more often than osd)
[11:47] <realitysandwich> ceph osd down is also not working
[11:47] <realitysandwich> ahhh, yeah sorry
[11:47] <realitysandwich> was osd that I was typing
[11:48] <Heebie> ceph is down? EEK! =O That's a feat. If the OSD can't reach a quorom of MON servers, it may not be allowed to run. Are enough MONs available to reach quorum?
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[12:26] <zdzichu> meh, cephfs still is brittle enough to crash just by loking at it
[12:26] <zdzichu> :/
[12:27] <realitysandwich> I have had it live in production for almost 2 months with no problems
[12:30] <zdzichu> https://paste.debian.net/740267/
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[13:04] <Be-El> Animazing: just an addition...you can use the 'ceph osd dump' command to dump the content of the osd map. it contains the ip addresses the mons pass to client/other osd for each osd. check whether the correct addresses are used
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[13:05] <Animazing> oh really
[13:05] <Animazing> I did not know that, thanks!
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[13:07] <Animazing> hmm yeah that showed the osds are both listining to public and cluster network so that part is at least working
[13:07] <Animazing> still doesn't explain why it looks like it's connecting from public to cluster
[13:07] <Animazing> cluster is isolated in a vlan so that can't happen :/
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[13:09] <Heebie> If it's trying to send traffic that SHOULD go over the private cluster NIC over the client NIC, then the NIC is down, misconfigured, or routing is messed up somehow.
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[13:14] <Animazing> NIC is up, and I can connect from cluster to cluster using telnet
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[13:54] <IcePic> perhaps hostnames somewhere where ips should have been?
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[13:54] <IcePic> and those hostnames resolving to the public side
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[14:32] <turmeric> hello guys
[14:32] <turmeric> what is the reason for a mds to be laggy?
[14:32] <turmeric> to become laggy
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[14:36] <turmeric> Do you think having jumbo frames would help?
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[15:09] <wujson> hi guys
[15:09] <wujson> nils_: you here?
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[15:09] <nils_> wujson, yes, back from the dead
[15:10] <wujson> nils_: do you remember my fight with compilers and jemalloc, and packaging it?
[15:10] <nils_> wujson, yeah
[15:10] <nils_> wujson, did you make any progress?
[15:10] <wujson> nils_: http://imgur.com/ex6Oqst final output, osd 6 & 7 are my own hacked versions
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[15:11] <nils_> wujson, whoa
[15:11] <nils_> wujson, btw. did you try increasing the thread cache for tcmalloc?
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[15:12] <wujson> nils_: at the moment i'm still learning, tcmalloc (newer version will be used in the next sprint;)
[15:12] <wujson> nils_: but for now, I'm going to like ceph more & more each read line of code
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[15:13] <nils_> unfortunately I don't have proper monitoring in place (co-worker is setting up collecting ceph stats and sending to influxdb), otherwise I could check the impact of the thread cache in real time
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[15:16] <wujson> nils_: don't use influxdb if you're going to have a lot of metrics
[15:16] <wujson> it doesnt give you proper consistency, graphite based on whisper is much more reliable.
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[15:26] <nils_> wujson, well I do like it for it's SQL like qualities.
[15:27] <wujson> nils_: yeah, that's cute, but if you need to make some recovering, it becomes a nightmare ;)
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[15:28] <wujson> nils_: back2main, do you have any idea why jemalloc is going so well in PUT operations? according to a hackathon document, it should increase mostly GET/HEAD's
[15:29] <nils_> wujson, btw. make sure to set transparent_hugepages to madvise or never
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[15:33] <wujson> nils_: sure, i love those things ;) ex442 member here ;)
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[15:39] <nils_> wujson, I'm mostly doing debian/ubunutu/coreOS
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[15:51] <wujson> nils_: also, but only redhat has valuable certifications ;)
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[15:54] <SamYaple> wujson: thats debatable
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[15:54] <SamYaple> are _any_ certs really valuable?
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[16:05] <rkeene> No.
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[16:09] <nils_> yeah I don't think anybody ever asked me for certifications
[16:09] <nils_> probably more useful in the proprietary space or large organisations
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[16:10] <rkeene> The only certificates I've ever gotten are ones that I've been required to for my job, and they've all been completely worthless
[16:11] <nils_> usually just money gouging
[16:12] <nils_> and a product that requires expensive certifications, training etc. must likely suffers from awful documentation ;)
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[16:13] <rkeene> DoDD 8570.1 :-(
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[16:15] <nils_> that must set you back quite a bit
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[16:21] <rkeene> Hmm ?
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[16:26] <Be-El> does ceph support pools with replication size set to 1?
[16:26] <Be-El> (just for benchmarking purposes... )
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[16:27] <turmeric> size or min_size?
[16:27] <turmeric> min_size it does
[16:27] <turmeric> size, not sure
[16:27] <turmeric> just try it
[16:27] <turmeric> :P
[16:28] <turmeric> and hi Be-El
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[16:32] <Be-El> it's more about the fact that setting size=1 and min_size=1 does not work for my test pool
[16:32] <Be-El> i/o (rados bench) is stalled
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[16:43] <turmeric> I am having my mds process killed due to OOM
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[16:43] <turmeric> fccckk :D
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[17:16] <topro> hi, after upgrade to jewel i get "mds0: Metadata damage detected". Assume it has to do with finally available desater recovery toolchain but cannot find any information regarding this message. could anyone of you give me a pointer on how to deal with that, please?
[17:18] <Be-El> topro: do you have an old cephfs setup and do you applied the tmap update?
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[17:20] <topro> Be-El: yes, and yes ;)
[17:21] <topro> the fs is really old, form january 2013, think it was cuttlefish or something alike
[17:21] <Be-El> ok, in that case i'd better pass the question to someone who actually knows what might be wrong
[17:22] <topro> thiink of cuttlefish -> dumpling -> emperor -> firefly -> hammer (skipped giant) -> jewel
[17:25] <topro> btw. fs is working. think it discovered some metadata issues i would like to track down, just to be safe
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[17:27] <turmeric> Have you guys tried the metadata recovery tools that come in jewel?
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[17:28] <topro> turmeric: think thats what I've gotta do. just cannot find any documentation on how to deal with that error message
[17:28] <turmeric> I read an article the other day about the tool, trying to find it
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[17:29] <topro> another noteworthy information: IOPS performance seems to have increased by a factor of ten by doing the last upgrade from hammer to jewel. thats great!
[17:29] <turmeric> cephfs-data-scan
[17:30] <turmeric> Never tried it though
[17:30] <turmeric> http://docs.ceph.com/docs/jewel/cephfs/disaster-recovery/
[17:30] <topro> what I did after upgrade (as requested in upgrade docs) was a "cephfs-data-scan tmap_upgrade"
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[17:31] <topro> turmeric: I read the page about disaster-recovery, but doesn't seem to address my error
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[17:31] <topro> seems to be more about errors rendering fs unusable
[17:32] <turmeric> maybe someone iwll have a better idea
[17:32] <topro> and how to recover, but thats not the case over here
[17:32] <topro> never mind, was hoping for someone who already experienced something like that and knwos how to deal with it
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[17:38] <turmeric> I think this "damage table" thats giving you the error
[17:38] <turmeric> is also new in jewel
[17:38] <turmeric> so it might be hard to find someone with the same issue
[17:38] <turmeric> or at least some docs
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[17:40] <topro> found some "open_remote_dentry_finish bad remote dentry" lines in mds log, maybe related?
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[17:47] <turmeric> It sounds like its pointing to an object that doesnt exist
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[17:49] <turmeric> Be-El, do you have any idea?
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[17:55] <topro> turmeric, some of the items listed in the mds log are accessible through FS, others don't appear
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[17:55] <turmeric> stupid question
[17:55] <turmeric> have you tried restarting the mds?
[17:55] <topro> btw. its about 30 files, none of them are mission critical. so if its only those files i could live with a way to get rid of them
[17:57] <topro> what makes me wonder is that almost all of these files are .git/object/ files, maybe there is some general problem of running git repos inside CephFS?
[17:58] <topro> or had been in one of the older versions and only now I see them due to cephfs metadata scan
[18:00] <topro> those files that are still accessible are all modification time in 2013, so cuttlefish i assume
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[18:20] <turmeric> maybe, or just random
[18:20] <turmeric> or maybe the inode is missing because the file is hidden?
[18:20] <turmeric> I dont know.
[18:20] <turmeric> but I am glad you could recover
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[21:59] <Oskar> I've installed a Ceph cluster using the official "quick start" guide on 4 Ubuntu 16.04 VMs. Everything worked as expected until I rebooted the VMs. Now commands such as "ceph health" gets stuck and doesn't output anything. Is there something I have to start manually after a reboot?
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[22:10] <vasu> no the daemons will start after reboot, check you other network config
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[22:19] <DLX> Hi I'm looking for a Storage Solution and was wondering if i could get some advice. I'm looking for a Database Storage solution for Openstack instances, would i expect better performance from Ceph Storage using DP DL380p G8 Servers with 12G 15k SAS Drives and 12G SSDs for Write Journal, or would i be better off looking somthing like an HP MSA 2040 with 10GB iscsi?
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[22:27] <Oskar> @vasu, like what?
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