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IRC Log for 2016-04-20

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[0:05] <axion_joey> got a problem guys. I built a small test cluster using ceph deploy. But whenever I reboot one of the osd hosts all of the osd's on that host show as down. Any ideas?
[0:07] <[arx]> look at the logs
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[0:08] <axion_joey> it looks like the drives aren't mounted.
[0:08] <axion_joey> I saw someone had this same problem on the mailing list, but I didn't see a fix for it
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[0:11] <[arx]> and the logs might tell you what happened
[0:12] <axion_joey> thanks.
[0:12] <axion_joey> I'll dig a little deeper
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[0:32] <T1> laevar: there was something on the ML about a bug that hit the monitors when upgrading that was fixed in a new RC .. I havn't looked at your log and I cannot say if that is the problem, but I've heard of upgrading-trouble before..
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[0:47] <vvb> hi, does anyone know why ceph.conf needs a public network, cluster network specified? In my mind ceph should just probably ask the public interface, cluster interface. why does it need use to specify the network
[0:48] <vvb> and if that is the case, how do multi-data-center topology work? they need to be in the same network.
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[0:52] <laevar> T1: thanks, i will look at the ML and also perhaps make a bug report
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[2:15] <evilrob> speccing out hardware for a new deploy. We can get more cores, or faster cores. Typically for something like this, my gut would say more cores is better.
[2:16] <evilrob> thoughts?
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[5:00] <IvanJobs> Hi cephers, I did not quite understand "ceph-deploy gatherkeys" during installation of ceph? Can anyone explain it to me? I just don't quite sure about what these keys are, where these keys are, why they there, what gatherkeys do.
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[7:59] <IvanJobs> Hi cephers, If I set cephx enable = none in config file, does it imply thant I don't need all of these keyring anymore?
[7:59] <IvanJobs> I'm just wondering.
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[10:53] <boolman> how do I debug slow requests? I can see that the request is waiting in state "queued_for_pg" for almost 60s before it gets state "reached_pg"
[10:53] <boolman> from the dump_historic_ops command
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[10:54] <boolman> is it straight up io issues and i need more spindles?
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[11:13] <Heebie> Is anyone using Layer-3 switching to route between failure domains? (cabinet level and above)
[11:15] <Heebie> boolman: You can use `watch ceph osd perf` (I think that's it) That should show you the latency on all spindles, and latency to any journaling you're using, listed by OSD. You can then refer to `ceph osd tree` (I think) to determine exactly where that OSD is if you don't have them memorised.
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[11:28] <boolman> Heebie: my grep ^3\. | awk '{print $14}' | tr -d '[]' | cut -d ',' -f 1 | sort -V | uniq -c
[11:28] <boolman> ops
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[11:29] <boolman> my fs_apply_latency is higher that fs_commit_latency, around 10-12 on the osd's that reported slow requests
[11:29] <boolman> fs_commit_latency is never above 2
[11:30] <Heebie> One of those figures is how fast it gets fully commited to the journal. The other is how fast it moves from the journal to the OSD "proper" Those both sound pretty reasonable. Are there any that show up with 3 or even 4+ digits worth of latency?
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[11:31] <boolman> nope, like i said, 10-12 on fs_apply_latency
[11:31] <boolman> havent seen anything above that
[11:32] <boolman> although I don't have historical data on that, so I might have missed it
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[11:33] <Heebie> You could search the OSD logs on each storage node.
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[11:42] <boolman> if I change my journal_size parameter in the config, and I'm using a blockdevice, can I just restart the osd daemon, or do I need to do flush / mkjournal ?
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[12:00] <Heebie> That I don't know.
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[12:17] <T1w> boolman: as I remember using a block device will always use the entire device regardless of what you set journal_size to.. it only applies to a filebased journal
[12:18] <T1w> .. but I could be wrong - check the documentation.. :)
[12:18] <T1w> and yes, I'd make sure to flush the journal before changing anything
[12:18] <T1w> otherwise you risk loosing the entire OSD
[12:19] <Heebie> I'd remove or down the OSD before making any changes.. let the data be elsewhere while you mess around with it.
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[12:20] <T1w> yes, that too
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[12:24] <rraja> kefu: can <caps> in 'ceph auth caps <entity> <caps> ' be a shell variable when trying to execute the 'ceph auth caps' command? I run into the following error while trying to do so, http://pastebin.com/7y28pgqx
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[12:35] <sep> is this the only way to migrate rbd format ? http://ceph.com/planet/convert-rbd-to-format-v2/ ; or are there ways to reduce downtime of host, eg take a snapshot and first migrate that one while vm is running, and then a shorter export-diff while vm is off ?
[12:36] <T1w> sep: read the section called "using diff" ?
[12:39] <sep> ... face...palm.... i need another coffee
[12:43] <masterpe> a
[12:53] <T1w> sep: :)
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[13:01] <masterpe> Hi, I try to create an iscsi gateway butr when I try to create the lun I get the error: "tgtadm: invalid request", On https://gist.github.com/mpiscaer/43d495a0986f77edf9e3c5c36099f47d I got the output of the log and so.
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[13:09] <boolman> T1w: how do I confirm my current journal_size if im using a blockdevice?
[13:09] <T1w> boolman: suing some partitioning tool I'd guess?
[13:09] <T1w> using even
[13:09] <kefu> rraja you need to pass "mon" and "''allow *'" as separated argument to "ceph"
[13:10] <boolman> i know the size of the partition
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[13:13] <kefu> rraja b/c ceph interprets $CAPS as a single argument.
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[13:14] <Gugge-47527> boolman: if you know the size of the partition, you know the size of the journal :)
[13:14] <boolman> Gugge-47527: ok thanks
[13:14] <rraja> kefu: I'd also tried what you said and still hit the same issue.
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[13:14] <rraja> kefu: thanks!
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[13:17] <rraja> kefu_: I'd also tried what you said and still hit the same issue.
[13:18] <rraja> kefu: kefu_ : i found that you worked on an issue that had raised the same error, http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/11279
[13:21] <rraja> kefu: kefu_ : my goal is to simplify the command for a doc, see line 41 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295448/5/doc/source/devref/cephfs_native_driver.rst
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[13:23] <kefu_> rraja i'd say they are different stories.
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[13:24] <kefu_> ceph cli is not responsible to split its argument by spaces.
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[14:26] <sep> how is the memory usage on infernalis vs hammer on the osd's ? i wonder if i should dare to upgrade or not since i am overcommited on ram
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[14:29] <rkeene> This math doesn't add up to me: WARN: too many PGs per OSD (307 > max 300) osdmap e3227: 75 osds: 75 up, 75 in pgmap v51633: 7680 pgs, 3 pools, 1890 GB data, 472 kobjects
[14:29] <rkeene> When I compute the number of PGs per OSD I get 102.4
[14:30] <rkeene> Are adding replicas (size) increasing the number of actual PGs ?
[14:30] <etienneme> No
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[14:30] <etienneme> Hum, I doubt now ^^, but it would surprise me
[14:30] <rkeene> It would surprise me too
[14:31] <etienneme> All your pools are on every OSD?
[14:31] <rkeene> Yes -- that is to say I've done nothing to limit them
[14:32] <etienneme> 102.4*3 = 307
[14:32] <rkeene> pool 0 'rbd' replicated size 3 min_size 1 crush_ruleset 0 object_hash rjenkins pg_num 2560 pgp_num 2560 last_change 2722 flags hashpspool stripe_width 0; pool 3 'data' replicated size 3 min_size 1 crush_ruleset 0 object_hash rjenkins pg_num 2560 pgp_num 2560 last_change 2645 flags hashpspool crash_replay_interval 45 str
[14:32] <etienneme> i think you have 3 replicas? :)
[14:32] <rkeene> ipe_width 0
[14:32] <rkeene> pool 4 'metadata' replicated size 3 min_size 1 crush_ruleset 0 object_hash rjenkins pg_num 2560 pgp_num 2560 last_change 2643 flags hashpspool stripe_width 0
[14:32] <rkeene> Yes, each pool has a size of 3
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[14:32] <rkeene> And 2560 PGs, for a total of 7680 PGs across 75 OSDs
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[14:33] <etienneme> So the values seems right, checking on a cluster of mine
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[14:34] <etienneme> Don't have a cluster with "too many PGs" :/
[14:34] <rkeene> Since I can never decrease pgp_num/pg_num I'm now stuck in a perpetual HEALTH_WARN aside from specifying a higher value for number of PGs per OSD
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[14:34] <rkeene> etienneme, Do any of your clusters have (<PGs>/<OSDs>)*<size> greater than 300 ?
[14:35] <etienneme> I don't think so :)
[14:36] <etienneme> You used pgcalc?
[14:37] <etienneme> rkeene: You can hope that your cluster size will increase and that you will have to add OSD ;) otherwise you could transfert the datas to a new cluster :/
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[14:38] <rkeene> No, my number of PGs was computed as MIN(2**entier(ceil(log($num_osds * 100 / 3)/log(2))), 32 * $num_osds) where the "/ 3" represents the number of replicas (size)
[14:40] <rkeene> But the problem is that I removed 5 OSDs and it was a bummer -- but I didn't expect this limit to be hit
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[14:50] <m0zes> rkeene: mon_pg_warn_max_per_osd set it slightly higher than 300.
[14:51] <m0zes> if you don't want the perpetual warning ;)
[14:52] <rkeene> Yeah -- I'm just surprised that it thinks my PGs per OSD is near 300 when <PGs>/<OSDs> is around 102
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[15:00] <m0zes> I think you missed the part of the calculation for pgs that incorporates an approximate % of the overall space that pool is going to take.
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[15:01] <masterpe> I found my problem the ceph destination object did not exists, i had created on the wrong pool.
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[15:02] <loth> Anyone up to help with two inactive pg's?
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[15:43] <mohmultihouse> 420 blaze
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[15:47] <masterpe> loth: What is the output from: "ceph health detail"
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[15:50] <loth> masterpe: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8868335
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[15:51] <loth> "ceph pg 3.355 query" just hangs with no output
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[15:53] <masterpe> and ceph osd tree ?
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[15:53] <loth> masterpe: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8868336
[15:54] <masterpe> loth: Does https://ceph.com/community/incomplete-pgs-oh-my/ help?
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[16:02] <mnaser> bonding 2x 10g links *or* keep 1x 10g for public, 1x 10g for private?
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[16:04] <[arx]> i would keep them seperate
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[16:18] <loth> masterpe: for step 12 what OSD do i preform the import on?
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[16:26] <ska> Is the 'ceph' command supposed to be present on all OSD hosts? I thought they just needed the RADOS libraries..
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[16:35] <loth> Where can i find the ceph_objectstore_tool?? binary?
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[16:39] <loth> ah nvm its called /usr/bin/ceph-objectstore-tool now
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[16:58] <JustEra> Hello
[16:59] <JustEra> Can someone help me to create an osd from a lvm dm-crypt logical volume ? I can't find anything on the docs
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[17:06] <ska> Are Monitors queries in order of their rank?
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[17:08] <ska> Does the rank 0 monitor get heavier load than the others?
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[17:20] <tonythomas> hello. I get this error '7fee3263b700 0 librados: client.admin authentication error (95) Operation not supported' now on $ ceph auth list -- can someone tell me what is wrong ?
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[17:23] <tonythomas> or -- how to debug this error, and add in the correct keyrings ?
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[17:28] <tonythomas> okey. looks like I set ceph authenitcation =none in /etc/ceph/ceph.conf in my admin node. fixed now
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[17:41] <tonythomas> I get an iput/output error now, when I try mounting my cephfs using the command - 'mount -t ceph 192.168.1.8:6789:/ /mnt/mycephfs -o name=admin,secretfile=/etc/ceph/client.admin'
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[18:15] <herrsergio> hi everybody, if I run a benchmark with "ceph tell osd.N bench" , the osd must be without data ?
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[18:35] <valeech> HOw can I determine where an OSDs journal lives?
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[18:55] <evilrob> looking at building OSD node hardware specs. Systems would have 42 OSDs each connected to a 40Gb fabric. I can add an extra server node on a blade in the box to split the load across 2 systems. Good idea or great idea?
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[19:19] <lookcrabs> JustEra: no one uses dmcrypt apparently. I just use ceph-deploy create --dmcrypt ${host}:${hdd}:${journal} which works for the most part.
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[19:20] <JustEra> lookcrabs, ok thanks you, i will do some more test
[19:20] <lookcrabs> valeech: What do you mean? The journal may either coexist on the OSD node or reside on it's own disk.
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[19:22] <lookcrabs> JustEra: all of my clusters use dmcrypt across their 630 drives. I had to set up luks manually and specify the directory for one cluster. ceph-deploy works sometimes. Redhat said they will not support a cluster when luks is set up manually though so w/e about that
[19:23] <lookcrabs> GL on your testing. I barely pay attention to IRC now that we switch to slack in office but hopefully I can catch it and help
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[19:23] <valeech> lookcrabs: I am building a cluster and I want the journal to live on a partition on a SSD. I have created the OSDs I am just wondering if there is a command I can use to verify that the OSD daemon is uding the SSD partition for the journal. I am not getting the performance I expected to get and I suspect the journals are a part of it.
[19:24] <lookcrabs> ```ls -lhab /var/lib/osd/ceph-${osdid}/``` and see where the journal points
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[19:25] <JustEra> lookcrabs, ok thanks you I will tell you if I am stuck somewhere :)
[19:26] <valeech> lookcrabs: ok, the journal link points to the SSD partition??? bummer. Now I have to figure out why I am not getting the performance.
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[19:37] <xcezzz> had an os drive fail in an osd node??? is it fairly simple to add the existing OSDs that are already provisioned in it back into cluster?
[19:37] <valeech> lookcrabs: Thanks for the help!
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[20:33] <rkeene> I'm parsing the output of "ceph -w" -- is there a better way ?
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[20:37] <neurodrone> rkeene: ceph status detail?
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[20:37] <neurodrone> I use ceph status --format json-pretty a lot.
[20:38] <rkeene> It's not a continious stream
[20:38] <neurodrone> if you are parsing it you don???t need ???-pretty??? suffix.
[20:38] <neurodrone> Yes, you need to periodically check.
[20:39] <neurodrone> I don???t think any unbounded quantity can be accurately represented in a serialized format.
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[20:42] <rkeene> Hmm ?
[20:42] <rkeene> That's basically what IRC is (or more apropos, XMPP) is
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[20:43] <neurodrone> Dumping JSON blobs periodically? Over conducting those periodic checks ourselves?
[20:45] <neurodrone> It???s not actually unbounded in that sense; you always know the length of the payload.
[20:45] <neurodrone> Which you do in the case of ceph -w too, so my reasoning was actually misapplied.
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[21:56] <DG1> Hello.. Are swift tempurls supported in Ceph Firefly?
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[22:15] <DG1> anyone here to help with swift tempurls?
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[22:46] <m0zes> anyone using the cephfs-hadoop plugin with cloudera hadoop?
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[23:33] <DG1> anyone using Swift tempurls with radosgw?
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