#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-04-02

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[6:15] <pnksys> hi everyone, i have a question about rbd image when export to client use, when client mount rbd image, they can delete data on that. But rbd image don't clean data. sorry about my english.
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[6:34] <m0zes> pnksys: are you referring to TRIM or discard support?
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[6:42] <pnksys> @m0zes, thank you reply, i will collect information and post again.
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[9:02] <IcePic> m0zes: sounds more like "thin provision works one way but not the other" or something along those lines
[9:02] <IcePic> but your guess is as good as mine
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[10:19] <pnksys> Hi @m0zes and everyone. I have a rbd image 50G , client mount on /mnt/block. When client add a file 40G to /mnt/block and show df -ha, they will see used 40G. On Ceph see too used 40G, but when client delete text.iso (df -ha will see again to free 50G) so Ceph still see have 40G on cluster.
[10:21] <IcePic> pnksys: yes, ceph doesnt know about the mounting OS operation
[10:22] <IcePic> it just sees "someone wrote 40G data here", then when the mounting OS deletes it, it writes some magic bits that say "these 40G are unused for me" but ceph cant know that.
[10:23] <IcePic> the machine that mounted it doesnt wipe 40G or anything, it just stops considering it as used, and will overwrite it later on if it needs 40 more G
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[10:27] <pnksys> @IcePic. if client delete 40G and rewrite 40G, ceph cluster will use to 80G for that client ?
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[10:35] <pnksys> if i want limit space on rbd to client can write/delete, no get out the size of rbd and ceph cluster. any solution for that IcePic. Thank you reply
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[11:09] <IcePic> pnksys: nopes
[11:09] <IcePic> it will reuse the 40Gs again
[11:10] <IcePic> but there seem to be some kinds of exceptions to this, found a website that claimed that if you run libkvm and virt-scsi devices that point to your rbd, then if the guest send TRIM/discard messages via scsi, rdb would be able to clean out deleted space.
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[11:11] <IcePic> http://blog.widodh.nl/2015/12/using-trimdiscard-with-ceph-rbd-and-libvirt/
[11:11] <pnksys> thank you very much IcePic. :)
[11:11] <IcePic> perhaps, if your box that mounted the rdb can try "fstrim" if it is linux
[11:12] <IcePic> its used to look for previously used space and tell the underlying devie "I dont need this space anymore, please unmap it"
[11:12] <IcePic> sort-of
[11:12] <IcePic> cant hurt trying
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