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IRC Log for 2016-03-31

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[1:10] <ronrib> the promo video uses the pink saltstack brain
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[1:47] <aarontc> anyone know why 10.1.0 has a dependency on openldap? Can't find any reference to it in the tracker or mailing list
[1:50] <aarontc> nm, my google-fu is weak
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[2:05] <vasu> aarontc: can you paste the output? I dont see that dependency
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[2:09] <aarontc> vasu: http://hastebin.com/igojuwenix (this is v10.1.0 btw)
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[2:18] <vasu> aarontc: I was thinking you are talking about package install, for this you have to check on ceph-devel
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[3:01] <m0zes> aarontc: https://github.com/ceph/ceph/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=ldap.h
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[3:01] <m0zes> looks like ldap tie-ins for rgw
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[3:30] <kcwong> hello
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[3:31] <kcwong> i have a problem with /var/run/ceph/rbd-clients keeps on disappearing
[3:31] <kcwong> would some one be able to point to a solution?
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[3:43] <kcwong> any one?
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[4:02] <Mika_c> zabidin> Are you bind monitor and osd toghther??? "state of electing" mean monitor out of quorum. Stuck with electing can releated with clock skew. Maybe you can check date first.
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[4:03] <Mika_c> Zabidin> sorry not out of quorum. Monitor is in the middle of an election
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[4:49] <wwdillingham> can snapshots be made of objects or only of pools?
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[5:43] <Zabidin> Hello.. MOrning all..
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[5:48] <khyron> Night over here!!! XD
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[6:03] <frozensky> hello, i'm still fighting with our cluster. i want to recreate a placement group (and ditch the old data). but this is failing
[6:03] <frozensky> somebody has a bright idea?
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[6:13] <Zabidin> Sorry, international..
[6:14] <Zabidin> This is for monitor > ceph-deploy new [initial-monitor-node(s)]
[6:14] <Zabidin> This is for osd node > ceph-deploy install [ceph-node] [ceph-node...]
[6:14] <Zabidin> Does ceph-deploy install need to include monitor?
[6:15] <Zabidin> Can i put admin node same in box of monitor?
[6:15] <Zabidin> I have 2 monitor
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[6:18] <Zabidin> What does mean by mon initial in ceph.conf? Is monitor that monitor ceph node or ceph node that been monitor?
[6:18] <Zabidin> I'm confused
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[6:21] <motk> Zabidin: it's the initial monitors when bringing up the cluster
[6:24] <Zabidin> Mean monitor will put here. Then ceph-deploy install need to include monitor node or not?
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[6:24] <Zabidin> motk: Do you have good tutorial that have include monitor and osd on seperate box?
[6:25] <motk> they should be on seperate machines if possible
[6:25] <Zabidin> My setup is mon1,mon2, osd1,osd2,osd3,osd4 and osd5.
[6:25] <motk> I use ceph-ansible
[6:25] <Zabidin> Most of them put on same box from tutorial i found.
[6:26] <Zabidin> I do not know what best setup.
[6:27] <Zabidin> From this tutorial > http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=CentOS_6&p=ceph , what is best step to fit my setup?
[6:28] <motk> that's a basic one
[6:28] <Zabidin> Do u have good one?
[6:28] <Zabidin> How about this > http://www.jamescoyle.net/how-to/1244-create-a-3-node-ceph-storage-cluster/comment-page-1#comment-225174 ?
[6:29] <motk> are you just after a basic setup for testing?
[6:29] <motk> I'd get ceph-ansible and use it's vagrant setup
[6:29] <motk> which is ready out of thebox
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[6:30] <Zabidin> I want to implement for production.. We do test first..
[6:30] <motk> I'd play around with ceph-ansible's vagrant setup first
[6:30] <motk> in the real-world, mons should be on their own hosts
[6:31] <Zabidin> From my setup, all using different box..
[6:32] <Zabidin> That we i need to know what is best tutorial for my setup.. If success, then it will put in data center.
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[6:33] <motk> first thing you need to do is read and understand how the crushmaps work
[6:34] <motk> so you can make informed decisions on how to configure your replicas etc
[6:34] <motk> if you use ceph-ansible it should give you sensible defaults out of the box
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[6:47] <Zabidin> This almost fit my setup > http://karan-mj.blogspot.my/2013/12/ceph-installation-part-2.html
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[7:07] <Zabidin> What wrong >http://pastebin.com/btYBdjar?
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[7:09] <Zabidin> Step > http://pastebin.com/4UiCK5Qc
[7:09] <Zabidin> Error > http://pastebin.com/btYBdjar ?
[7:11] <motk> your monitors can't agree on quorum
[7:11] <motk> you might want to go over the ceph troubleshooting monitors page
[7:11] <motk> rememebr you need an odd number of monitors
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[9:01] <Devin_> Hello #ceph chan. Reading the testing documentation for Teuthology and a doubt arose: it seems like it's possible to set up a lab to run tests on only one bare metal machine (a VM host). Is it the case or am I mistaken? Thanks in advance. DOC LINKS => 1) http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/dev/#testing-integration-tests 2) http://docs.ceph.com/teuthology/docs/LAB_SETUP.html
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[9:06] <T1w> Devin_: yes it's quite possible.. there are however known cevats that you might hit - notebly that a too small disk for OSDs will result in a too low OSD weight and your cluster will never form quorum untill you manually reweigh the sizes to be larger than 0
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[9:12] <Devin_> T1w, would this impact testing as well?
[9:12] <T1w> most likely
[9:12] <T1w> speed will be lower
[9:13] <T1w> functionality would not be affected
[9:13] <Devin_> Do you mean because of the overhead of the hypervisor?
[9:13] <T1w> but it's not even close to the real life issues you might see at a later point in time
[9:14] <Devin_> care to elaborate?
[9:14] <T1w> no, simply because you are using virtualization and not more than 1 machine and more than 1 (or perhaps 2 or 3) drives
[9:15] <T1w> virtualization is fine for testing funktionality, but you will never know what might happen until you've had a run on the real hardware
[9:15] <T1w> functionality even
[9:16] <Devin_> I see. How about a server with a few HDD and eventually additional iSCSI targets connected?
[9:16] <T1w> it a good example of YMMV (google it..)
[9:16] <T1w> then you don't understand how ceph works..
[9:16] <T1w> ceph and iscsi for OSDs are not a gooe combination
[9:16] <T1w> good even
[9:16] <T1w> read the docs
[9:16] <T1w> read the recommendations for hardware
[9:17] <T1w> .. and rethink what you are asking
[9:17] <Devin_> Ok. Thanks for pointing this out, T1w. Write to you later. :)
[9:18] <T1w> .. using iscsi for data is just yet another round trip over a network in order for the OSD to persist the data - that adds latency
[9:18] <T1w> that adds a new failure domain
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[9:19] <T1w> .. and it adds a whole new layer of complexity that is unnecessary and probably also something that will cause you trouble and a lot of headbanging in the future
[9:20] <T1w> ceph is not designed to store its data in a SAN/NAS
[9:20] <T1w> it's local disks for each OSD
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[9:20] <T1w> yes it can be used for testing and playing around, but you will never get good or "nearly as good as" performance from it
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[9:29] <Devin_> Yeah, that's the whole point of it. I want to stretch the cluster and break it. It's for testing purposes, T1w. :) Do you think this is too divorced from the real world use cases / unimportant?
[9:29] <T1w> you get a LOT more ways of breaking it like that than in real life
[9:30] <T1w> be careful and do not test an unreal scenario that only your test setup makes possible
[9:31] <T1w> I'd day that you could get the same (and more lifelike) using VMs and virtual disks on local storage
[9:32] <Devin_> Ok. Thanks for the tip, T1w.
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[9:37] <T1w> np np
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[10:48] <phoenix> hello any ony can help my ceph is degrade: http://pastebin.com/CnPwjs4m
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[10:53] <etienneme> phoenix: start fixing your mon :)
[10:53] <etienneme> ceph health detail, you will get the ip of the mon down
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[10:53] <phoenix> i know bu deamon is run
[10:53] <phoenix> but
[10:54] <phoenix> mon.a (rank 0) addr 10.1.9.51:6789/0 is down (out of quorum)
[10:54] <etienneme> no errors on logs?
[10:55] <phoenix> 2016-03-31 11:54:43.125998 7ff0794b5700 -1 mon.a@0(probing) e4 handle_probe missing features, have 17592186044415, required 824633720832, missing 0
[10:55] <phoenix> all what i saw in ceph-mon.a.log
[10:55] <etienneme> connect to a mon an do "nc 10.1.9.51 6789" it will check the network if it's not working check if ceph is listening on the port
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[10:56] <phoenix> http://pastebin.com/zfZWYhRD
[10:56] <phoenix> all work
[10:57] <phoenix> mon listened port and unswer
[10:58] <phoenix> any idea?
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[10:58] <simona> I have a bit of a situation. We are running a cluster that had an incomplete PG yesterday. After a lot of work and help from people fro this channel, we got it back to a healthy state. It recovered the PG data from a PG with outdated data. This seems to be the cause of our new issue. Once that data was hit, the OSDs crushed.
[10:59] <simona> The 3 OSD which handle the PG with problems are currently down and reweighted them to 0, so non-affected PGs are currently rebuild on other OSDs
[10:59] <simona> As I'm a bit afraid for the data in this PG, I think we want to recreate the PG with empty data and discard the old disks. I understand I will get datacorruption on serveral RBDs in this case, but we will try to solve that and rebuild the affected VMs. Does this makes sense and what are the best next steps?
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[11:00] <phoenix> and i have next message on mon-log : .data_health(0) update_stats avail 99% total 487064204 used 44396 avail 487019808
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[11:01] <etienneme> So your mon is running, and it seems to kind of work as it get health status of the cluster
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[11:02] <etienneme> You could try to improve verbosity but "handle_probe missing features" is still an error. Maybe something related to version/tunable ?
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[11:03] <etienneme> You have the same version everywhere?
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[11:35] <phoenix> i have any version on 2 monitor but all work good, now i have truble when i add 2 new client
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[11:40] <etienneme> Did not understand sry, the 3 mons share the same version? phoenix
[11:43] <phoenix> 2 mon version:ceph version 0.87.1 and one ceph version 0.94.5
[11:43] <phoenix> last mon i update 2 minets ago
[11:44] <phoenix> and he have problems
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[11:48] <phoenix> ceph health detail
[11:48] <phoenix> HEALTH_WARN too many PGs per OSD (413 > max 300); mds0: Client 15108 failing to respond to cache pressure
[11:48] <phoenix> if i add this options on ceph.conf : mon_pg_warn_max_per_osd = 0 it`s ok?
[11:51] <etienneme> "HEALTH_WARN too many PGs per OSD" is not an issue
[11:51] <etienneme> Your osd are running with 0.94.5?
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[11:52] <phoenix> ok i fix problem add in section monitor ceph.conf this commands : mon_pg_warn_max_per_osd = 0
[11:53] <phoenix> my osd running ceph -v
[11:53] <phoenix> ceph version 0.80.6
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[11:54] <etienneme> I'm not surprised you have issue while running three different versions :)
[11:54] <etienneme> You can't upgrade?
[11:55] <phoenix> maybe this is not the right solution, but now is in a state of cluster ok.
[11:55] <etienneme> ceph -s says OK?
[11:55] <phoenix> yep
[11:55] <etienneme> mon is on quorum?
[11:55] <etienneme> Well... nice :p
[11:55] <phoenix> ceph -s
[11:55] <phoenix> cluster 24f5894b-b8d8-4454-be0e-1034153fb077
[11:55] <phoenix> health HEALTH_OK
[11:55] <phoenix> monmap e4: 3 mons at {a=10.1.9.51:6789/0,c=10.1.9.53:6789/0,d=10.1.9.54:6789/0}
[11:56] <etienneme> ceph is strong!
[11:56] <phoenix> and later i`m upgrade claster
[11:56] <phoenix> ))
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[11:56] <phoenix> thx all
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[12:22] <TMM> Hmm, in my ceph cluster I very often see osds being marked dopwn and then up again fairly soon thereafter
[12:22] <TMM> Would that normally mean network trouble?
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[12:43] <IcePic> at least that the heartbeat went missing.
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[12:43] <IcePic> there may be reasons for it, like "we run all traffic on the same network and when some client fills the link.."
[12:43] <IcePic> or, real faults of course
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[13:56] <hyperbaba> Hi there, I have a problem with radosgw. I've changed the ownership of the bucket but that user still can't access it. I've tried radosgw-admin bucket link command and also editing the metadata . Owner is showing as it should but no access to bucket. Can anyone help me on that . Version is 0.94.5
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[14:33] <TMM> IcePic, we do run everything on the same network, but we're using qdiscs to guarantee some bandwidth for ceph
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[14:34] <TMM> IcePic, the same network is also 2x10Gbit so it's not like we're particularly bandwidth starved
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[14:40] <IcePic> TMM: just saying what can cause similar issues without your net actually being broken
[14:41] <TMM> IcePic, ok, thank you. I think initially I'm just going to increase my mon osd min down reporters to 3
[14:41] <TMM> then see if I can our networking team to have a look at utilization
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[14:42] <TMM> but I can't imagine we're anywhere near full on our links
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[14:50] <TMM> no, we're using 3gbit in total :-/ bleh
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[15:36] <mnaser> I'm switching from a 120GB SSD to a 200GB SSD for the journal (mainly because the TBWs exhausted the old drive)
[15:37] <mnaser> would it be wise to under provision it (each partition would be ~15GB for every physical disk)
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[15:49] <Gugge-47527> mnaser: what model did you choose for the new SSD?
[15:50] <mnaser> Gugge-47527 intel s3710 240gb model
[15:50] <mnaser> or 200gb, not sure what was the number
[15:51] <Gugge-47527> they are already internally overprovisioned
[15:51] <mnaser> ah i see
[15:52] <mnaser> so in that case ill go ahead and redo the partitions
[15:52] <mnaser> im going to be following these instructions - http://lists.opennebula.org/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2014-May/039606.html
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[15:59] <Walex> The intel entgerprise SSDs are internally _hugely_ overprovisioned.
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[16:02] <wwdillingham> Hi, I have been testing my ceph cluster, simulating failures by stopping osd daemons, I have noticed that the OSDs are marked as down almost instantly, but take about 5 minutes to be marked as ???out??? and then a rebalance to occur. My question, what is the tunable that allows me to tweak how long the system waits before marking as out and rebalancing?
[16:03] <gregsfortytwo1> mon_osd_down_out_interval
[16:05] <mnaser> Walex: they do like 10 full disk writes per day for 5 years
[16:05] <mnaser> they have to be :p
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[16:12] <wwdillingham> thanks gregsfortytwo1
[16:12] <m0zes> in infernalis, is there any way to see what caps are being held by a client?
[16:13] <m0zes> for cephfs
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[16:13] <m0zes> I've got a couple machines that are "failing to respond to capability release"
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[16:18] <mnaser> any quick and painless way to partition a drive into N partitions
[16:18] <mnaser> ex: trying to get an SSD to be partitioned into 8 equal slices for journal
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[17:02] <IcePic> wwdillingham: its meant to allow for a quick reboot of the osd machines, without starting a rebalance, since it would need rebalance back if it started immediately when the osd is seen as down and back up again
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[17:04] <wwdillingham> IcePic: That makes sense, im giving a demo to my coworkers and want to simulate a rebalance. I think in production I would leave it at that setting.
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[17:06] <IcePic> sure.
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[18:40] <diq> I'm going to caveat this question with, yes, I know it's a bad idea, but I'm just doing it for testing. Is there any way to disable replication on a replicated PG? That is, set the size and min_size to 1? I've tried that but there still appears to be replication on the back-end network.
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[18:51] <kcwong> Hello
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[19:17] <kcwong> let me ask the question again. Why does /var/run/ceph/rbd-clients disappear after reboot?
[19:19] <diq> Is /var/run a tmpfs?
[19:19] <diq> It is on CentOS 7
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[19:19] <diq> RHEL7
[19:19] <kcwong> oh...
[19:20] <kcwong> It is and thanks for the pointer.
[19:20] <diq> np
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[20:48] <s3an2> m0zes,ceph auth list - not give you want you want?
[20:50] <m0zes> s3an2: I believe there is some terminology overload here. 'mds0: Client selene failing to respond to capability release' is the issue I want to debug. not client mount authorizations.
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[21:21] <untoreh> what package installs /etc/init.d/ceph ?
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[21:38] <[arx]> what os are you on?
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[21:41] <untoreh> I am trying --dev jewel on trusty
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