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IRC Log for 2016-03-22

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[0:46] <lookcrabs> can someone elaborate on what "objecter_inflight_op_bytes" means?
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[1:15] <gregsfortytwo1> objecter_inflight_op_bytes: it's a throttle value, setting a limit for how much data the objecter (thing that sends operations to RADOS) allows to be in-flight at one time
[1:15] <gregsfortytwo1> if you hit that limit, op submissions will block until some replies come back
[1:21] <motk> hrm, how do I glue in a custom crushmap into ceph ansible these days
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[2:54] <via> i just updated a node to 9.2.1 from hammer, is systemctl start ceph.target supposed to do anything?
[2:54] <via> it doesn't
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[3:12] <via> it seems the target doesn't automatically detect that i have a monitor configured. if i start it with ceph-mon@0 it works, and then ceph.target recognizes it again
[3:12] <via> but not after a reboot
[3:16] <via> this is on centos7
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[3:25] <via> maybe ceph-deploy does something? i don't use ceph-deploy since this cluster predates it
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[6:06] <motk> quick q viz crushmaps
[6:06] <motk> if I have something like
[6:06] <motk> host storage01 { id -2 ... }
[6:07] <motk> can I change the hostname? is it only the id that's relevant?
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[10:48] <IvanJobs> hi fellows, I have a question about rgw's "TimeTooSkewed" error, that is, can we modify this "TimeSkewed" limit to make it bigger? if it's can be done, then which config item should I use? thx in advance.
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[10:53] <smerz> you should keep clocks in sync rather
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[10:54] <IvanJobs> well, exactly speaking, I don't want clocks sync too closely:)
[10:57] <IvanJobs> well, more detailed info. I want to invoke Ceph's RGW API from browser client directly, so I can't make sure that clients are closely enough to sync time with my ceph cluster:(
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[11:10] <smerz> hm i dunno tbh what the best approach is
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[12:54] <via> is anyone around here familiar with the systemd stuff? i don't want to proceed with my upgrade until i figure this out
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[15:31] <wwdillingham> Can I change the numerical ID of a pool ?
[15:31] <lookcrabs> wwdillingham: I don't believe so. Why would you want to?
[15:31] <wwdillingham> I just want my default pool to be 1, I deleted the pool with the id of 1 many moons ago
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[15:50] <via> i got the monitors enabled with systemd, but i can't systemctl enable my osd's. i can start them, but enabling gets me "Failed to issue method call: No such file or directory"
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[16:26] <lmb> http://crapworks.de/blog/2015/01/05/ceph-monitoring/ <- neat
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[16:51] <rotbeard> +1 for that. I also played a bit with graphite the last days. pretty nice and pretty easy
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[18:48] <arav93> Hi, could someone provide more details regarding the on the wire encryption support? The project sounds interesting.
[18:49] <arav93> Anyone working on this?
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[20:55] <toast_work> hey all, I have a question about OST hotplugging
[20:56] <toast_work> is it fully automated? if I have a host go down hard, and pull the OST disks out of it and slam it into another host, do they just come back online? I'm reading conflicting reports in the forums and documentation
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[20:57] <toast_work> some are saying that yes, disks prepped with ceph-deploy are auto hotplug, and others say no
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[20:59] <m0zes> it depends on whether or not it was setup by ceph-deploy and if the journal is local to the osd.
[20:59] <m0zes> it *should* be if the entire osd is self-contained.
[21:01] <toast_work> baller, that's excellent caveats and thank you
[21:08] <TheSov> does anyone know when there will be a version of ceph with bluestore actually released?
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[21:10] <TheSov> also does anyone know of any hybrid disks which allow you to "see" the ssd vs the magnetic?
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[21:53] <nigwil> TheSov: Bluestore is part of the Jewel release
[21:53] <TheSov> damnit
[21:53] <TheSov> i need it now!
[21:53] <nigwil> It will be worth the wait :-)
[21:55] <TheSov> yes of course it will
[21:55] <TheSov> i didnt get clarification, with bluestores do we still need SSD caches?
[21:55] <TheSov> err i mean SSD logs?
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[21:56] <m0zes> there is no journal in bluestore.
[21:57] <m0zes> there was some talk about using bcache to potentially make use of ssds, though.
[21:58] <nigwil> Jewel uses a write-ahead log though; but eliminating XFS removes its journal as well
[21:59] <m0zes> sure, but no seperate journal device :)
[21:59] <nigwil> it will be fun thinking up uses for all these SSDs we now have free
[21:59] <TheSov> so you are saying bluestore is faster, requires less hardware and is in general the mothafucking shit... indeed
[22:00] <TheSov> do lets get that going shall we?
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[22:01] <TheSov> considering bluestores are now a thing. will osd's share bcache?
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[22:02] <TheSov> i cant wait to spank those idiot emc guys with their "scaleio is faster" bullcrap
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[22:03] <brians> 400GB intel dc3700s prices will tank though :D
[22:05] <brians> although according to this presentation there will still definitely be a place for some nice fast solid state storage with bluestore http://www.slideshare.net/sageweil1/ceph-and-rocksdb
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[22:20] <TheSov> is there no jewel preview version?
[22:21] <nigwil> have to build-from-source
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[22:58] <diq> TheSov, you can still use the SSD's for caching tier
[22:58] <diq> I know we still will
[22:58] <TheSov> thats not cost efficient then
[22:59] <diq> I'd much rather have a caching tier in front of an erasure coded pool
[22:59] <diq> which already is more cost effective than a replicated pool
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[22:59] <diq> and it would have more performance, too
[23:00] <TheSov> not really anymore
[23:00] <TheSov> bluestore is a tranactional model
[23:00] <TheSov> old way was an object model
[23:00] <diq> you're only thinking about writes
[23:00] <diq> you're ignoring reads
[23:00] <TheSov> hmmmm
[23:00] <TheSov> yes
[23:01] <diq> Also according to the slides, rocksdb is 2x faster on HDD, but even faster on SSD
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