#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-03-21

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

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[1:10] <brians> tumeric 2 monitors is a bad idea
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[1:11] <flaf> Indeed, 2 mons or 1 mon, it's equivalent.
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[8:57] <IcePic> it like clocks. A person with 1 or (2 clock that show different time) know equally little. With 3 or more clocks you can start comparing and calculating
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[13:26] <kashyap> Any thoughts on this here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1319483 -- "Linking to -lrbd causes process startup times to balloon"
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[14:02] <jdillaman> kashyap: i???ll open an upstream ticket for that
[14:02] <kashyap> jdillaman: Once you're done with it, mind posting a link here?
[14:02] <kashyap> Thanks
[14:04] <jdillaman> kashyap: http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/15225
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[14:05] <kashyap> jdillaman: Thanks!
[14:05] <jdillaman> kashyap: np
[14:06] <kashyap> jdillaman: Can you please explicitly reference the original bug there, too? As it is the source
[14:06] <kashyap> (Maybe you did add, I couldn't see, as I'm not logged in.)
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[14:07] <jdillaman> done
[14:10] <kashyap> Just a side note: When posting a bug verbatim, I'd quote the content, name the source explicitly (credit where it's due), indicating that it's reported by someone else.
[14:10] <kashyap> Anyhow, thanks!
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[14:53] <rwmjones> can anyone help with this monster C++ error from compiling ceph? http://pastebin.com/8y4rCjR6
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[15:42] <tumeric> hi guys
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[15:44] <tumeric> where can I start to troubleshoot cephfs? I have session established to mon
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[15:44] <tumeric> but then the vm is blocked
[15:44] <tumeric> ceph-fuse works ok
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[15:51] <neurodrone> rwmjones: Which version of Ceph are you trying to compile?
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[15:54] <rwmjones> neurodrone: git
[15:54] <rwmjones> 19aabf4a3047eb63c1646375357054ca12991a06
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[15:54] <neurodrone> Is that the latest master or is that a HEAD of a specific branch?
[15:55] <neurodrone> I???d recommend you checkout hammer or something and try rebuilding.
[15:55] <rwmjones> latest master
[15:55] <neurodrone> Yeah, that???s not supposed to be stable. :)
[15:55] <rwmjones> ok .. there's like a million branches, "hammer" is the latest one?
[15:55] <neurodrone> Hammer is the latest stable LTS one.
[15:56] <rwmjones> I'm trying to do upstream development, is there a development branch?
[15:56] <neurodrone> If you are planning to push your changes upstream, you should probably talk in #ceph-devel as mentioned in this channe???s topic.
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[15:57] <rwmjones> ok
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[15:59] <neurodrone> The dev contribution workflow is also nicely documented here: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/dev/#contributing-to-ceph-a-guide-for-developers.
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[16:03] <rmart04> Afternoon! QQ When using a cache tier, It feels like all the settings set an upper limit on the amount of objects/bytes in the cache. This means that the cache is always just at the brink of having to flush/evict. When this happens the performance is affected. How can we proactively clear more of the cache out, so that its always 50% of the target dirty ratio? (Infernalis)
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[16:29] <boolman> tumeric: is all ur osds up and in?
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[16:30] <boolman> oh nvm :D
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[16:32] <tumeric> :D yes
[16:32] <tumeric> boolman, they are. ceph-fs works ok. my question is: what is the dependency of cephfs? do I need some rbd pool?
[16:32] <tumeric> some special pool?
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[16:33] <boolman> tumeric: you need a data pool and a metadatapool for cephfs
[16:34] <boolman> tumeric: what is your problem=
[16:34] <boolman> ?
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[16:36] <tumeric> I have both
[16:36] <tumeric> checking kern.log I have libceph: mon0 ip:port session established
[16:36] <tumeric> and then vm is blocked
[16:37] <tumeric> my kernel is 3.39.0-56-generic
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[16:39] <tumeric> do you need some extra data?
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[17:13] <v1k0d3n> hey all, a little new to ceph (and this chan), and i'm experiencing issues with ceph-ansible. seems like no matter what i try i get the error about choosing an upstream installation source, even though that's configured....
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[17:19] <evelu> v1k0d3n, can you detail what you mean by "I get the error about choosing" ?
[17:19] <evelu> can you pastebin your output somewhere
[17:19] <evelu> ?
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[17:20] <v1k0d3n> sure. so i think in order for the ansible build to work, i need to have 'ceph_origin: upstream' and 'ceph_stable_repo: "http://ceph.com/debian-{{ ceph_stable_release }}"' configured.
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[17:21] <v1k0d3n> i also have 'ceph_stable_release: infernalis' so that should be ok. my error (no matter what i try unless i change to distro) is "choose an upstream installation source..."
[17:21] <evelu> leseb, any ideas for v1k0d3n ^ ?
[17:22] <leseb> evelu: yes yes helping him on ceph-ansible :)
[17:22] <leseb> evelu: thanks
[17:22] <v1k0d3n> yup. thanks leseb!
[17:23] <v1k0d3n> sorry for going two different groups. i saw 5 people in ceph-anisble and thought "uh oh...better see who's actually available". heh
[17:23] <evelu> thx leseb
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[17:34] <tumeric> http://pastebin.com/Pni99tTS
[17:34] <tumeric> any idea?
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[17:40] <wwdillingham> Im having a bit of trouble with crush. I am attempting to run ???ceph-crush-location ???cluster ceph ???id 0 ???type osd??? and would expect to receive back something consistent with what I am seeing in ???ceph osd tree??? where my datacenter/row/rack hierarchy looks like I might expect. However it returns back: ???host=ceph-mon04 root=default??? which is the mon host that I am running the command from???. again ???ceph osd tree??? looks normal and I
[17:40] <wwdillingham> deleted root=default so not sure whats going on. osd.0 is in the right host/rack/row/datacenter as far as i can tell by looking at my crush map
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[19:50] <wwdillingham> IF my crush rule is written such that the first choose option is in one bucket, followed by a choose option in a second bucket, does this guaruntee the primary osd will always be a leaf of the initial choosen bucket?
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[21:11] <toast_work> hey ceph folks, I have a question about OST redudnancy
[21:11] <toast_work> *redundancy
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[21:11] <toast_work> I'd like to run a configuration where two baremetal machines have access to the same SAS tray
[21:12] <toast_work> each node having full access to all disks in the tray - I would like to set it up so that node 1 runs the OSTs for half the tray, and node 2 runs the OSTs for the other half
[21:13] <toast_work> is there any way to get the nodes to failover and take over the whole tray in the event the other node fails?
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[21:33] <diq> I don't think that's really the typical ceph approach. That's a very NetApp/EMC approach and it doesn't map well to the ceph world. Just scale out, not up.
[21:34] <diq> arbitrating access between the 2 nodes is also an issue you'd have to deal with
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[21:34] <diq> seems like a lot of potential problems for no payout
[21:35] <T1> an OSD is bound to a single disk
[21:35] <T1> (normally anyway..)
[21:35] <T1> what you are asking for is a dynamic expansion if/when another node dies
[21:36] <T1> it could probably be automated, but I'm not really sure you'd want that to happen - you'd loose every piece of data on the disks that the new OSDs are takeing ownership of
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[21:36] <T1> taking even
[21:38] <toast_work> diq: there is no potential to scale out for this application, unfortunately
[21:38] <toast_work> if it's not typical I'm okay with that, I'm only looking for possible
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[21:39] <toast_work> i know it's common on lustre, just wasn't sure if ceph left a provision in for that
[21:40] <T1> it's not bhow ceph does things
[21:40] <T1> -b
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[21:43] <toast_work> hm, looks like it works automatically
[21:43] <toast_work> not super documented but appears to be a straightforward process
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[22:35] <mark_> Hi!
[22:35] <mark_> Q: This is my current crushmap: https://p.6core.net/p/akysc8FQqlNLwvhTYFRmwS9U
[22:35] <mark_> I'm about to add an extra node in a new datacenter.
[22:36] <mark_> Can I tell CRUSH via ceph-deploy directly where the node is, or should I add the datacenter and node with the crushmap tool and add ods's afterwards?
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[22:39] <T1> I don't remember ceph-deploy beeing able to do that
[22:40] <mark_> I can't find any proof for it either
[22:42] <mark_> But would I be ok if I edited the crushmap beforehand, creating both the new node and the new datacenter, but without any osds?
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[22:43] <T1> yeah, that should'nt be a problem
[22:43] <T1> shouldn't even
[22:44] <T1> then the new OSD would probably just be added below root
[22:44] <T1> and then you could simply nove it below your new DC and node
[22:44] <mark_> Oh, so I'd have to move it. Ok.
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[22:44] <T1> .. but beware that adding it with a weight other than 0 means data will flow into it at once..
[22:44] <mark_> And the map doesn't get confused because it has an OSD outside a datacenter which it can't use?
[22:44] <T1> oh, it can use it
[22:45] <T1> it's still visible below root
[22:45] <mark_> Not according to the map?
[22:45] <mark_> step chooseleaf firstn 0 type datacenter
[22:45] <T1> ah, ok
[22:45] <T1> ;)
[22:45] <T1> well..
[22:45] <T1> then you should be ok
[22:46] <T1> that reminds me - I ought to check my crushmap
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[22:55] <mark_> kind of strange though, if ceph doesn't automatically detect in which node the osd resides
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[22:57] <T1> its because you can move an OSD independent of nodes
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[22:58] <T1> if an OSD was bound to a node you caould not easily move a number of existing OSDs to a new node if you wanted to
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[23:05] <mark_> hmm. Ok.
[23:05] <mark_> But ceph-deploy can let me set a default weight of 0
[23:05] <mark_> can't
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[23:11] <mark_> T1: So in my current map, if I add the osd's without placing the host in a datacenter, it won't be used?
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[23:18] <T1> mark_: alas no.. you seem to be missing a few steps
[23:18] <T1> you just pick a DC and then emit
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[23:18] <T1> you never seem to tell ceush to weigh in the racks and hosts
[23:19] <T1> crush even
[23:19] <T1> (dammit I can't hit the right keys right now..)
[23:19] <mark_> That is correct, since I want crush to mirror over the DC's
[23:19] <mark_> I don't care yet which hosts, since there is just one per DC
[23:20] <mark_> And my main concern is geographical
[23:20] <T1> ah, ok
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[23:20] <mark_> So, if I add OSD's in a node that is not in a datacenter, it won't be used.
[23:21] <mark_> And then, I move the node with it's osd's in a datacenter, and then it'll start to receive data, right?
[23:21] <T1> it should, yes
[23:22] <T1> but it's a more safe bet just to add it with a weight of 0
[23:22] <T1> it's been a long time since I've added OSDs, so I can't really remember.. :)
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[23:23] <lookcrabs> anyone ever see radosgw stop responding to curl but still show processing of objects when tailing the log?
[23:23] <mark_> https://p.6core.net/p/xkPj5nt7UWUfHmtiRM3WT0Uv
[23:23] <mark_> T1: If I test this map, only the devices in nodes 01 and 02 are used.
[23:24] <mark_> Not the ones in node03
[23:24] <mark_> which seems what I want
[23:25] <T1> sounds good then
[23:26] <mark_> Well, here goes nothing :)
[23:26] <T1> have fun.. I'm off to bed.. ;)
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[23:41] <mark_> ok, that doesn't work as I thought
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