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IRC Log for 2016-03-09

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[0:09] <[arx]> for ceph-fuse, is there a long option for -r, which mounts a subdirectory of cephfs?
[0:10] <[arx]> i ask because, the helper script that mounts cephfs from fstab assumes long options are used
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[0:27] <motk> leseb: back on deck here
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[0:38] <jcsp> [arx]: yes, it's --client-mountpoint
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[0:50] <[arx]> jcsp: thank you, where did you find it? is isn't in my man page
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[0:55] <motk> oh wow
[0:55] <motk> four osd servers, one osd per server using a directory model
[0:55] <motk> ceph ansible creted 42 osds
[0:55] <motk> um
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[1:52] <Jeeves_> If you add a few osd's to your cluster.
[1:53] <Jeeves_> Is it wise to do that one by one, and wait for each add to fix rebalancing?
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[1:53] <Jeeves_> Or should you just throw all of them in at once and let Ceph do it's thing
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[2:35] <Nats__> Jeeves_, my 2c i throw all of them in with a short delay between each
[2:35] <Nats__> since the placement is psuedo-random if you wait for rebalancing you will greatly increase the total rebalance traffic
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[2:40] <Jeeves_> Nats__: So you don't wait for rebalancing to finish?
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[3:10] <Jesse> Hi,all
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[3:11] <Guest7170> How to set Journal disk part-type uuid???
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[3:20] <Nats__> Jeeves_, not between individual osd additions, no
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[3:24] <Guest7170> ???
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[3:27] <Guest7170> ohh,I'm in China
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[4:00] <Guest7170> How to set Journal disk part-type uuid
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[4:19] <azizulhakim> GSoC Help: is there any way of testing "ceph" on a single desktop computer with 2.4GHz Core i7 processor, 8GB RAM, 1 TB disk space. looks like the hardware requirements are too much for a single user with a single computer
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[4:20] <joshd> azizulhakim: that hardware should be sufficient, what kind of problem are you running into?
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[4:23] <azizulhakim> joshd: I was following the quick installation guide. From the description it seems to me that I need to setup a cluster structure with multiple computer
[4:23] <m0zes> azizulhakim: people run single node test ceph installs to test things. https://ttboj.wordpress.com/2015/12/28/trying-out-ceph-with-oh-my-vagrant/
[4:24] <m0zes> ideally it is separate, but for debugging or development, that should work.
[4:25] <joshd> azizulhakim: also check out the dev guide - running a single-node cluster is very simple when building from source: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/dev/#building-from-source
[4:26] <azizulhakim> Thanks joshd & m0zes. I'll try to follow those.
[4:27] <m0zes> joshd: there we go, that was what I was actually looking for :)
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[4:32] <neurodrone_> No one uses this anymore? http://docs.ceph.com/docs/hammer/dev/quick_guide/
[4:33] <neurodrone_> azizulhakim: Should apply to your use-case.
[4:33] <azizulhakim> thanks neurodron_
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[4:36] <m0zes> I knew I had seen something like that before (vstart.sh) just couldn't remember what it was.
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[4:40] <Guest7170> hi???m0zes
[4:41] <Guest7170> I find the code in /sbin/ceph-disk
[4:42] <Guest7170> use sgdisk --typecode change the part-type id match the ceph-osd???s udev trigger
[4:42] <Guest7170> It works???
[4:42] <m0zes> good :)
[4:43] <m0zes> that is how we do it. I've not used ceph-disk prepare since our first install.
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[4:46] <m0zes> although, iirc you were wanting it for the journal. did you use the OSD_UUID or did you use the JOURNAL_UUID?
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[5:32] <Guest7170> m0zes,NO,I still use ceph-deploy create osd
[5:34] <Guest7170> just change the journal part type id with JOURNAL_UUID that define in /sbin/ceph-disk : JOURNAL_UUID = '45b0969e-9b03-4f30-b4c6-b4b80ceff106'
[5:34] <Guest7170> sgdisk --typecode=1:45b0969e-9b03-4f30-b4c6-b4b80ceff106 /dev/sdb
[5:35] <Guest7170> change the type id on /dev/sdb1
[5:35] <m0zes> glad it works
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[5:38] <Guest7170> because I use parted tools make one disk become two part for journal disk, It didn't worked in new version ceph-deploy 1.5.31. old version is good.
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[5:39] <Guest7170> Thank you???m0zes!
[5:39] <Guest7170> Now???Everything is OK
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[5:49] <ronrib> for testing, is it possible to have ceph running & healthy on a single host with an erasure coded pool? something like 2+1 over 3 OSDs
[5:49] <ronrib> I'm guessing there may be some crush trickery involved
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[5:59] <atg> There is
[5:59] <ronrib> ok cool i'll read up
[5:59] <atg> in my crushmap I had to set
[5:59] <atg> step chooseleaf firstn 0 type osd
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[5:59] <atg> under `rule replicated_ruleset {`
[5:59] <ronrib> humm that rings a bell
[5:59] <atg> which was enough to get me going -- I assume an EC setup is the same
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[6:00] <atg> I did something with chooseleaf in my ceph.conf but I don't believe it did anything
[6:00] <atg> I don't know if I did something incorrectly or not
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[7:04] <Guest7170> hi???all
[7:05] <Guest7170> when I recreate a OSD,It doesn't work.
[7:05] <Guest7170> http://pastebin.com/teX9PPJS
[7:05] <Guest7170> use ceph-deploy tool
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[10:09] <skoude> dummy question, but I have two pools that uses different crushmaps how do I get the space available on each poool? For some reason it is showing the total spave of whole cluster but not space available for pools
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[10:20] <hardes> I have no idea, sorry
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[11:37] <mbtamuli12> When does ceph-create-keys needs to be run manually?
[11:38] <mbtamuli12> I have to repeatedly run the ceph-create-keys. What files do I have to remove so that it works on the same mon-id the next time without any other changes?
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[11:39] <mbtamuli12> Can anyone help?
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[14:41] <m0zes> skoude: ceph df ?
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[14:48] <skoude> m0zes: yeap, but it only shows the whole cluster space, not the space of pool
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[14:51] <skoude> m0zes: it shows like this: http://pastebin.com/BgB4td29
[14:52] <skoude> but I have a two rules and the pools ere in differents rulesets
[14:53] <skoude> heres the rules: http://pastebin.com/6nEei1rp
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[14:54] <m0zes> iirc, there was a bug in 'ceph df' where it won't show the correct pool values if there are down/out osds
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[14:56] <m0zes> or is it when they're backfilling/recovering...
[14:56] <m0zes> http://paste.ie/view/3c6ce0f3
[14:59] <m0zes> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/6660
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[14:59] <m0zes> also, https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/7087
[15:00] <m0zes> those are in the jewel development releases
[15:05] <mistur> Hello
[15:05] <mistur> I still have some issue with my crushmap
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[15:06] <mistur> I udpate the crushmap to fit the layout of my rack and some pg in a bad state :
[15:06] <mistur> http://pastebin.com/NF9EhiXT
[15:06] <mistur> 1024 active+undersized+degraded+remapped
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[15:07] <m0zes> mistur: you don't have 14 chassis. step chooseleaf indep 0 type chassis
[15:07] <m0zes> erasure size 14
[15:08] <mistur> m0zes: ok I see
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[15:10] <mistur> m0zes: and I dont have 14 hosts too so must set to osd
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[15:10] <mistur> how I manage this if I start with 10 hosts and increase the number of host up to 25 ?
[15:10] <m0zes> that may make it place all copies on the same chassis, though.
[15:11] <mistur> So I must change the profile
[15:11] <m0zes> mistur: you might be better off asking for ruleset help on the mailing list. they *might* be able to help you build a safe ruleset for that.
[15:11] <mistur> ok
[15:13] <mistur> and about plugins, it's difficulte to choose one
[15:13] <IcePic> mistur: if you have a rule that says "spread this into 10 parts" and you have 10 hosts, its fine if you buy 15 more hosts, since it will still make sure all data is spread onto 10 different hosts, just not the same 10 all the time.
[15:13] <mistur> I mean, there is not so much information about each
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[15:13] <IcePic> (if I understood your 10->25 Q correctly)
[15:13] <mistur> IcePic: ok
[15:14] <mistur> but it might be under optimized compare of if I start directly with 25 nodes ?
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[15:24] <IcePic> no, it more or less just gets better and better the more nodes you have.
[15:24] <IcePic> (apart from using more power and network ports and so on)
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[15:33] <mistur> IcePic: we already have 25 nodes in the rack
[15:33] <mistur> but we keep those other node for test
[15:33] <mistur> I have 2 cluster of 10 nodes (100 OSDs)
[15:33] <mistur> one for beta service
[15:33] <mistur> the other on for test
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[15:43] <m0zes> mistur: what are your k and m values for that EC pool?
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[15:45] <m0zes> 10 and 4? if so, you might be as well off with a 7 and 3...
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[15:47] <mistur> m0zes: yes : 10 and 4
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[15:49] <m0zes> if it is 7 and 3, then 10 nodes would fit well enough. otherwise I'm pretty sure you are going to need some serious crush trickery to get a "safe" ruleset.
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[15:50] <mistur> m0zes: I see
[15:51] <mistur> but I'm not using ceph for a while
[15:51] <mistur> so I might ask some "noob" questions
[15:51] <mistur> but I am here to learn
[15:52] <m0zes> I don't mind "noob" questions. the fact that you are asking, means you want to learn
[15:52] <mistur> I edit my first crush map yesterday :)
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[15:53] <mistur> m0zes: that the bigest part of sysadmin jobs, learn new stuff all year long
[15:53] <m0zes> indeed.
[15:53] <mistur> so if a sysadmin don't want to learn, he should change his job
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[16:57] <mistur> m0zes: for ruleset help, I send my question on the user list ? devel list ? both ?
[16:58] <m0zes> probably user list.
[17:00] <mistur> ok
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[17:01] <mistur> mail sent
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[17:26] <mattbenjamin> yehudasa: PR updated
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[20:19] <rkeene> Does "debug rbd = 20" go in the [client] section of /etc/ceph/ceph.conf ?
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[20:19] <jdillaman> rkeene: yes
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[20:21] <rkeene> The issue happened again in a slightly different way when using VirtIO -- QEMU's "info blockstats" indicated that no I/O was happening to the RBD device (the only block devie)
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[20:27] <AI> Hello cephers!
[20:28] <jclm> Hello AI
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[20:29] <AI> I have a ceph cluster that I need to pull a file from a pool that we're suspecting a file system issue....
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[20:30] <jclm> AI Do you mean that you need to grab the file content directly from the OSD PGs?
[20:31] <AI> yes... actually it's an qcow2 image that we need pull to save it before something bad happens
[20:31] <jclm> Is it stored as an RBD or as an S3 object?
[20:32] <AI> RBD
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[20:34] <jclm> The problem is that your image is stored as multiple objects in the cluster then. And these objects are in fact all the sectors of a block device. It is not a single object unless it is less than the default object size for RBD (4MB)
[20:34] <AI> when I issue the command: rados -p images ls then I see a large number of rbd_data.xxxxx but I can't seem to find the actual file itself
[20:35] <jclm> You have to do : rbd -p {poolname} info {rbd_image_name} to get the RBD prefix for your RBD
[20:35] <AI> that's what think as well... and I'm looking a way to get this file from pool. Is there a way to achieve this?
[20:37] <AI> okay... I got the image prefix
[20:37] <AI> block_name_prefix: rbd_data.46a11d5a86a4
[20:37] <jclm> And then using the prefix to to a rados -p {poolname} ls | grep {rbd_prefix} to get the exact list of all the objects that are your RBD image. And then you get each object out of the cluster
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[20:37] <jclm> And you'll have to reaseemble the pieces together
[20:38] <AI> I'll need to output this list of object into a file first....
[20:38] <AI> then how do I re-assemble them
[20:38] <jclm> Or you can script and pipe into a for loop
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[20:39] <T1> concatenate them together should be "enough"
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[20:40] <AI> what would be the command to concatenate them together and subsequent command for me to get the actual file out of the storage
[20:41] <m0zes> cat ${rbd_prefix}* > image_name.qcow2
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[20:42] <jclm> rados -p pool get {objectname} ./objectname
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[20:42] <m0zes> for file in $(cat part_list.txt); do rados get {poolname}/{part} {part}; done
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[20:43] <AI> okay. let me try this and see if I can pull this image out of this pool
[20:47] <Mosibi> AI: but if it is a 'rbd image' why not just do a 'rbd map <pool>/image' and run a fsck on that?
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[20:49] <rkeene> jdillaman, Does QEMU override this ? I'm getting nothing from QEMU but "rbd ls -l" produces a lot of output
[20:49] <jdillaman> rkeene: do you have a "log file" setting in your ceph.conf?
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[20:50] <rkeene> Yes
[20:50] <rkeene> Well, I have log to syslog = true
[20:51] <rkeene> (and log to stderr = false)
[20:51] <rkeene> And "rbd ls -l" writes a LOT to my syslog
[20:51] <rkeene> jdillaman, https://rkeene.org/terminal/1/
[20:52] <rkeene> (I moved it from [client] to [global] after QEMU did nothing with it in [client], it works in either case with "rbd ls -l"
[20:52] <jdillaman> rkeene: qemu doesn't override any logging config settings
[20:52] <rkeene> )
[20:52] <portante> rkeene: what syslog are you using?
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[20:52] <portante> syslog-ng, rsyslog?
[20:53] <rkeene> portante, I wrote my own syslogd
[20:53] <portante> k
[20:53] <portante> so ceph until recently had a bug where it wrote everything at "panic" priority
[20:53] <rkeene> Yeah, I see that
[20:53] <portante> they recently fixed that
[20:53] <rkeene> It's not a real issue for me
[20:53] <jdillaman> rkeene: perhaps the qemu process cannot access /dev/log?
[20:54] <rkeene> jdillaman, There's nothing that should stop it, everything else can
[20:54] <portante> what os are you using?
[20:55] <rkeene> jdillaman, I also tried setting a log file = /var/log/ceph/$cluster-$name.log entry and that made no difference either (/var/log/ceph created with mode 777)
[20:55] <rkeene> portante, Linux
[20:55] <portante> sorry, distro, centos?
[20:55] <rkeene> It's a distribution I maintain
[20:55] <portante> systemd involved?
[20:55] <rkeene> No
[20:55] <jdillaman> rkeene: try setting log_to_syslog = 20
[20:55] <portante> k
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[20:56] <rkeene> Hmm, documented as boolean
[20:56] <rkeene> jdillaman, Again, rbd ls -l produces a LOT of syslog output
[20:56] <jdillaman> never mind --
[20:56] <jdillaman> read the code wrong
[20:56] <portante> rkeene: yes, it does
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[20:56] <portante> so filtering on priority is what most folks do
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[20:57] <portante> but because everything is panic mode from the version of ceph you have, it makes it difficult to do that
[20:57] <jdillaman> rkeene: do you have selinux / apparmor enabled per chance?
[20:57] <portante> :)
[20:57] <rkeene> It's not a big deal for me, logs will be rotated every 60s if needed
[20:57] <rkeene> jdillaman, No
[20:57] <rkeene> There is no MAC in use
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[20:59] <rkeene> Alright, it looks like moving it into the [global] section did the trick
[21:00] <rkeene> And wheee is it a lot of output
[21:00] <portante> yes
[21:00] <jdillaman> rkeene: cool
[21:00] <portante> log_to_syslog is what you moved to [global]?
[21:00] <rkeene> Good thing this is going to tmpfs
[21:00] <rkeene> portante, Yes
[21:00] <jdillaman> rkeene: :-p
[21:00] <rkeene> Well, I moved it all
[21:00] <rkeene> As soon as I can get control of the terminal I'll show you
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[21:01] <portante> yes, I see
[21:01] <rkeene> Up to 31M of logs so far !
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[21:01] <portante> 31M a min, nice
[21:01] <rkeene> The central syslog server will love this
[21:01] <jdillaman> haha
[21:02] <jdillaman> hopefully you can repeat the hang
[21:02] <portante> "feed me seymore"
[21:02] <rkeene> Yeah, I'm still working on trying to replicate it locally -- I thought moving the VMs to VirtIO would workaround it because we haven't had the issue in the past
[21:02] <rkeene> But these VMs, which we imported from VMware hosts are still having the problem
[21:03] <rkeene> This time the symptoms were a bit different -- QEMU was running until we tried to migrate it, and while it was running just no I/O worked (according to "info blockstats", nothing was happening)
[21:03] <rkeene> No disk I/O that
[21:03] <rkeene> No disk I/O that is
[21:04] <rkeene> Networking was working, I could RDP in -- just not login since it couldn't write logs or something I'm guessing
[21:06] <jdillaman> so it hung during a live migration?
[21:06] <rkeene> This time
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[21:06] <rkeene> QEMU did, I/O was hung before that -- we were trying to do a migration to see if a new QEMU process would make it happy
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[21:06] <jdillaman> oh -- gotcha
[21:07] <rkeene> I wanted to capture a core file to see if it was related but someone asked me if I was going to do that and they took my "Yes" to mean that I'd already done it, annoyingly, and killed the process
[21:07] <rkeene> And a bug in "gdb" prevents gcore from working :-(
[21:08] <rkeene> They are trying to replicate what they were doing when it died this time right now
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[21:14] <rkeene> We think it may have something to do with snapshots being added/removed in parrallel also so someone will be doing a bunch of that while the users are doing their work
[21:15] <jdillaman> rkeene: that would be consistent with the provided backtrace
[21:15] <jdillaman> rkeene: just need to figure out why the writeback didn't complete
[21:16] <rkeene> If it helps any, I can do some live debugging of the core file -- it's got symbols from -g3 -ggdb3
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[21:18] <jdillaman> it might come in handy
[21:18] <jdillaman> .. but i'm hoping the logs point out the issue
[21:19] <rkeene> Is there any way to synthesize the logs that would have been generated at the time ?
[21:20] <jdillaman> in what regards?
[21:20] <rkeene> From any structures in the process memory
[21:20] <rkeene> That are thus captured in the core file
[21:21] <rkeene> I wish I had more core files :-(
[21:21] <jdillaman> if you had "log_max_recent = <some large number>" in your conf file, your log messages would be in the core
[21:22] <jdillaman> ... but you would still need "debug rbd = 20"
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[21:22] <jdillaman> ... but would be able to turn off the syslog fire hose
[21:23] <rkeene> That sounds like a plan
[21:25] <jdillaman> rkeene: wait, are you running 0.94.5 or .6?
[21:25] <jdillaman> rkeene: i thought you said .6 but I see .5 in your terminal
[21:26] <rkeene> 0.94.5
[21:28] <rkeene> m_max_recent is only 500 in this core file and debugging isn't for rbd is set 0 anyway, but good to verify accessibility
[21:28] <jdillaman> sure --
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[21:29] <jdillaman> rkeene: so this core was a hung qemu process?
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[21:30] <rkeene> Yes
[21:30] <rkeene> With IDE
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[21:31] <rkeene> librbd was still "ping"ing the Ceph nodes I could see that in the strace output, but no disk I/O was happening and QEMU quit accept()ing sockets on its monitor socket
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[22:20] <devicenull> I have a mon that doesn't seem to want to go into quorum
[22:20] <devicenull> it keeps printing 'log_channel(cluster) log [INF] : mon.x calling new monitor election'
[22:20] <devicenull> time is in sync
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[22:21] <devicenull> finally went in...
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[22:30] <devicenull> pretty sure the box is just having problems
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[23:52] <diq> oh for anyone involved with the slow CephFS xfers over WAN links discussion yesterday
[23:52] <diq> the main culprit was net.ipv4.tcp_no_metrics_save
[23:52] <diq> the OSD connections were long lived, and even unmounting and remounting to create "new" TCP connections still used the "old" path information
[23:53] <diq> performance still isn't optimal, but it's good enough!
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