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IRC Log for 2016-03-08

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[0:15] <motk> where leseb where
[0:15] <motk> how dare he not use irc like a normal human
[0:16] <leseb> motk: what do you mean?
[0:16] <motk> leseb: just joking :)
[0:17] <motk> leseb: do you have a couple of minutes?
[0:17] <leseb> motk: just a couple, it's kinda late for me and still packing my bag :)
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[0:17] <leseb> motk: so make it quick please :)
[0:17] <motk> very quick
[0:18] <motk> viz the fqdn switch for mon/mds names
[0:18] <motk> it still build a crushmap that only references shortnames
[0:18] <motk> which breaks things
[0:18] <motk> I'm creating a new crushmap now but it's worth thinking about
[0:18] <motk> and that's all, have a good trip :)
[0:19] <SamYaple> leseb: youre still awake?
[0:19] <leseb> motk: so osds have issues with hostnames too on your install?
[0:19] <leseb> SamYaple: yup :)
[0:19] <leseb> SamYaple: it is 00:19 here
[0:20] <leseb> motk: I need to include another fix for osds then
[0:20] <motk> leseb: yep - you might recall I have storage[01|02].[foo|bar]
[0:20] <SamYaple> no rest for the wicked i guess
[0:20] <leseb> SamYaple: haha you bet!
[0:20] <motk> but the crushmap only does shortnames
[0:20] <motk> leseb: that would be wonderful, when you have time
[0:20] <leseb> motk: yes it's because the osd auto registration while booting
[0:21] <motk> yep; if there's an obvious way I can get the osd to use the fqdn I can't find it
[0:21] <leseb> motk: that's going to be tricky to run I'm afraid since I'm not registering osds on the ceph.conf though...
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[0:23] <motk> I tried using the osd crush location config in the group var file but it didn't work as I expect
[0:23] <motk> in the interim I'm trying to get our hostnames changed but the chances are poor
[0:25] <leseb> motk: the crush_location should do what you want I believe
[0:25] <motk> I changes ansible_hostname to ansible_fqdn
[0:25] <motk> but it never generated the osd config in ceph.conf
[0:26] <motk> which I'm looking into now
[0:26] <leseb> motk: hum the portion of the code is not well maintained i'm afraid, it was kind of a special use case
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[0:26] <motk> nod
[0:26] <leseb> motk: it should give you a new ceph.conf with osd entries
[0:27] <motk> yeah, never happens sadly
[0:27] <leseb> motk: let me test quickly
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[0:30] <motk> I'm using the directory model too, which might be a wrinkle
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[0:31] <leseb> motk: oh yeah maybe
[0:31] <motk> I hate this setup, but it's what I have to work with until we get new hardware
[0:31] <motk> which won't be for months
[0:32] <leseb> motk: since i'm using df to find osds, so yeah it won't work with directory for sure
[0:32] <motk> ah, right
[0:32] <motk> curses
[0:32] <leseb> motk: with devices it works
[0:32] <leseb> motk: let me see if I can quickly fix this
[0:33] <motk> squee
[0:33] <rkeene> jdillaman, It (#14988) now happened to two other VMs, but not the original VM which I switched to VirtIO from IDE
[0:34] <rkeene> jdillaman, Still working on reproducing
[0:34] <rkeene> Didn't enable logs on these VMs :-(
[0:34] <jdillaman> rkeene: appreciate your help ... thx
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[0:37] <benh57> odd, i just restarted one osd and it caused ceph to that a different osd had moved to a different host, causing a large backfill
[0:37] <BlaXpirit> I DID IT
[0:38] <benh57> restarting the second osd stopped the backfill, setting it back to the correct host
[0:38] <BlaXpirit> This is so much fun though. I shut down all my OSDs and whatever application looks at the block device mount just hangs
[0:38] <BlaXpirit> Hangs in a way that I can't kill -9 it :o
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[0:40] <BlaXpirit> and the moment my OSD finishes booting the application finally dies
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[0:41] <leseb> motk: please try this https://github.com/ceph/ceph-ansible/pull/609
[0:41] <BlaXpirit> This works great now https://github.com/BlaXpirit/vagrant-ceph-quickstart/blob/master/Vagrantfile
[0:41] <benh57> has anyone experienced 'ceph osd tree' showing OSDs on the wrong hsots?
[0:42] <benh57> (which means the actual crush map is wrong... yikes)
[0:42] <leseb> motk: it should work
[0:42] <leseb> motk: just run
[0:42] <leseb> git fetch origin
[0:42] <leseb> git checkout -b fragment origin/fragment
[0:43] <leseb> motk: inside your ceph-ansible dir and you'll get the change
[0:43] <leseb> try it and leave a comment, going to bed now
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[0:48] <motk> leseb: on it, thanks for you time
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[2:14] <theCanadianBaker> Any core devs around?
[2:15] <theCanadianBaker> I am trying to mount an image using RBD, and it successfully mounts, but then it hangs while polling a socket, and I can't seem to find out what it is trying to hit
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[3:12] <blocky> SamYaple: zfs is a popular filesystem for home NAS, it's probably what I'd use if I decided not to use ceph
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[3:18] <SamYaple> blocky: im very familiar with zfs, just not sure how it fits into the ceph AIO talks
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[3:23] <blocky> sorry I'm not familiar with all the terminology, i was just trying to describe what I thought was one of the benefits of ceph over a more traditional NAS configuration
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[5:13] <libracious_> although i am good in c c++ python and i get confortable to new things pretty fast and also i do understand ceph technology (mainly by reading blogs and videos)...i also have support from local mentor who is very good in cloud....but i don't have experience with ceph code...so my main question is given i can code and other stuff should i apply for gsoc ceph
[5:13] <libracious_> projects or not
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[5:27] <blocky> what language is ceph written in?
[5:27] <rkeene> C++
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[5:28] <blocky> how many lines approx?
[5:28] <blocky> it's been going on for 6 years at least, right?
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[5:43] <motk> leseb: sadly I can't convince it to create osd host config
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[10:54] <theanalyst> what is the length of the key required for ceph-authool's --add-key?
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[10:57] <vikhyat> theanalyst: ceph-authtool -C -n client.foo --gen-key keyring I think this one creates a key same you can use
[10:58] <vikhyat> theanalyst: I got it from man ceph-authtool
[10:58] <theanalyst> vikhyat: yeah I know gen-key creates a key.. I was thinking more of a case like in deployments where you can bring your own key
[10:58] <theanalyst> which you generate from uuidgen | base64 etc.
[10:59] <vikhyat> theanalyst: ahh got it
[10:59] <vikhyat> may be then we need to look into the code
[10:59] <theanalyst> yeah trying to do that :) it was easier if the length was mentioned somewhere
[11:00] <vikhyat> theanalyst: yes :) but if you check --gen-key keyring created key it has 40 chars
[11:00] <vikhyat> string
[11:00] <theanalyst> why didn't I think of that ..
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[11:02] <vikhyat> theanalyst: it is always 40 I think if we check other outputs also ceph auth get-or-create
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[11:19] <mistur> hello
[11:19] <mistur> I have reinstall my test cluster
[11:19] <mistur> and I have :
[11:19] <mistur> pgmap v1017: 192 pgs: 192 creating; 0 bytes data, 4585 MB used, 545 TB / 545 TB avail
[11:19] <mistur> and nothing happen
[11:20] <mistur> cluster installed with ceph-ansible (cc leseb )
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[11:24] <T1w> creating can/will take some time
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[11:27] <mistur> T1w: 1h ?
[11:27] <T1w> creating pgs
[11:27] <T1w> ah.. no
[11:27] <T1w> 1h seems a bit exessive
[11:27] <mistur> :)
[11:28] <mistur> there is no activity on the cluster
[11:28] <T1w> are all your OSDs up?
[11:28] <mistur> osdmap e215: 100 osds: 100 up, 100 in
[11:28] <T1w> also enough OSDs to fullfill the default CRUSH ma (ie. over at least 3 nodes)?
[11:28] <T1w> map even
[11:28] <mistur> all osd have the samw weight
[11:29] <mistur> I have 10 nodes of 10 disk
[11:29] <Heebie> sounds like the active CRUSH map doesn't work.
[11:29] <mistur> 0 5.45609 osd.0 up 1.00000 1.00000
[11:29] <mistur> it's the default crushmap
[11:30] <Heebie> BUT... I saw similar behaviour on a test system, because *ONE* ethernet cable on one machine was defective and causing the client-side connection to one of the storage servers to "flap" I replaced the cable, and it started working normally.
[11:30] <mistur> I was ok for 9.2.0 with the default ceph-ansible instakk
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[11:31] <Heebie> It would be hard to screw up the default CRUSH map, that's for sure.
[11:31] <mistur> now it's the first time I install it in 9.2.1
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[11:31] <Heebie> does ceph osd perf show anything interesting?
[11:32] <Heebie> (don't paste it here, BTW) ;)
[11:32] <motk> leseb: nothing interesting in the play log; it's like it's not honouring crush_location
[11:33] <mistur> 59 202 205
[11:33] <mistur> 69 202 206
[11:33] <mistur> http://pastebin.com/Hcuipc2j
[11:34] <mistur> crushmap
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[11:35] <mistur> Heebie: http://pastebin.com/PwjM7XU7 << ceph osd perf
[11:36] <Heebie> OSD's 59 and 69 look like they're unhappy. Desktop grade disks? Down those two OSD's and see what happens then.
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[11:37] <mistur> ok
[11:39] <mistur> stop ceph-osd id=59 && stop ceph-osd id=69
[11:39] <mistur> 2016-03-08 11:39:13.943481 mon.0 [INF] HEALTH_WARN; 192 pgs stuck inactive; 192 pgs stuck unclean; too few PGs per OSD (1 < min 30); 2/100 in osds are down
[11:39] <mistur> 2016-03-08 11:39:14.709378 mon.0 [INF] pgmap v1064: 192 pgs: 192 creating; 0 bytes data, 4539 MB used, 545 TB / 545 TB avail
[11:39] <mistur> 2016-03-08 11:39:18.698112 mon.0 [INF] pgmap v1065: 192 pgs: 192 creating; 0 bytes data, 4542 MB used, 545 TB / 545 TB avail
[11:40] <Heebie> too few PG's per OSD? Only the default pool?
[11:40] <Heebie> (that being rbd)
[11:40] <mistur> I only have 2 pool
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[11:41] <mistur> # ceph osd pool ls detail
[11:41] <mistur> pool 0 'rbd' replicated size 3 min_size 1 crush_ruleset 0 object_hash rjenkins pg_num 64 pgp_num 64 last_change 1 flags hashpspool stripe_width 0
[11:41] <mistur> pool 1 '.rgw.root' replicated size 3 min_size 1 crush_ruleset 0 object_hash rjenkins pg_num 128 pgp_num 128 last_change 154 flags hashpspool stripe_width 0
[11:41] <boolman> since you dont have any data, have you tried recreating them?
[11:41] <mistur> not yet
[11:42] <mistur> this is a test cluster to learn
[11:42] <Heebie> You should change the pg_num and pgp_num to much higher values for that many OSD's. Have any more PG's finished creating yet? Does osd perf look any different?
[11:42] <mistur> I can reinstall it within 1h or so
[11:42] <mistur> but first I try to understand and fix
[11:42] <boolman> I meant recreating the osd pools, not the nodes
[11:42] <mistur> Heebie: I trym but that stay stuck
[11:43] <mistur> # ceph osd pool set rbd pg_num 128
[11:43] <mistur> Error EBUSY: currently creating pgs, wait
[11:47] <Heebie> Do you have a mixture of MTU's? 1500 in some places, and say 9K jumbo sized packets in others?
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[11:51] <mistur> Heebie: no, all the same node, fresh install, one switch, all nic are 10G
[11:52] <mistur> boolman: I'm not sure to know how to do that
[11:52] <mistur> anyway, I have a meeting
[11:53] <mistur> I will continue to debug that later
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[11:53] <mistur> thanks for your help
[11:53] <Heebie> boolman's suggestion was to delete the pools you have and create new ones.
[11:53] <mistur> I haven't create in fact
[11:53] <mistur> ceph-ansible did I guess
[11:54] <mistur> I will try that this afternoon
[11:54] <mistur> (it's noon here)
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[12:14] <Jobs> Hey guys
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[12:17] <Jobs> I'm currently testing RadosGW's s3 API, purticularly the API of "GET Object ACL" keeps telling me "403 Access Denied". I've checked many times, the current request user is the ownder of this object. I just don't know the reason. Struggling...
[12:18] <Jobs> Any help would be appreciated.
[12:19] <Jobs> https://github.com/IvanJobs/play/blob/master/ceph/s3/get_bucket_acl.py this code's testing is good.
[12:20] <Jobs> https://github.com/IvanJobs/play/blob/master/ceph/s3/get_object_acl.py this code's testing returned "403 Access Denied"
[12:20] <motk> one thing that bit me in the early days was backslashes in passwords
[12:21] <motk> the other thing might be the url
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[12:25] <Jobs> thx motk
[12:25] <Jobs> thx for your reminding. that's it. my header str was wrong, '?acl' was missed:(
[12:26] <Jobs> I'm appreciated:)
[12:26] <motk> easy to do :)
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[13:15] <marcan> does ceph guarantee aio write ordering? if I issue two aio writes from the same client, is it guaranteed that the second one will take precedence, or could the first one win?
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[14:47] <Jesse> hi
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[14:48] <Guest7095> hi,I'm new commer,Today,ceph-deploy-1.5.31 & ceph 9.2.1 deploy a cluster hava a problem.
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[14:49] <Guest7095> my osd disk node cann't activate!
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[14:50] <Guest7095> then I check out the problem
[14:50] <Guest7095> my journal disk /dev/sdb2 owner:group is root:disk
[14:51] <Guest7095> when I chown ceph:ceph /dev/sdb2
[14:51] <Guest7095> journal activate OK OSD damon startup
[14:53] <Guest7095> But,after I reboot my OS system, the /dev/sdb1 still root:disk , journal disk cann't activate! OSD damon cann't startup
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[14:54] <Guest7095> anybody here?
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[14:54] <mistur> Guest7095: https://github.com/ceph/ceph-ansible/issues/496
[14:55] <mistur> give a look to this bug
[14:55] <mistur> and see about /etc/udev/rules.d/89-ceph-journal.rules
[14:55] <mistur> inside my bug report
[14:56] <mistur> might be a good way to fixe this at boot
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[14:56] <Guest7095> put rule file in /var/lib/udev/rule.d? right?
[14:57] <mistur> yes
[14:57] <mistur> I dunno, depends of your distrib I guess
[14:57] <mistur> for me it's in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[14:58] <Guest7095> My OS is CentOS 7.2 x86_64
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[14:59] <Guest7095> I'll try! wait a second
[15:00] <mistur> I don't know where it is on Centos
[15:00] <mistur> Guest7095: ok
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[15:00] <Guest7095> Thanks! mistur
[15:00] <mistur> you're welcome
[15:01] <mistur> it's workaround
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[15:01] <mistur> because in some case I don't need it
[15:02] <mistur> but at least, it's a clean workaround
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[15:06] <m0zes> Guest7095: did you create the journal partition yourself?
[15:07] <m0zes> or did you let ceph-deploy do it?
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[15:07] <Guest7095> Yes, use parted tools
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[15:08] <m0zes> then you need to set the part-type uuid
[15:08] <Guest7095> I need 2 partitions for 2 osd damond in one disk
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[15:09] <Guest7095> use parted order make /dev/sdb to /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2
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[15:09] <m0zes> 2 osds on one disk? or two journals n one disk?
[15:10] <Guest7095> I don't kown how to do it use ceph-deploy
[15:10] <Guest7095> two jorunals on one disk
[15:10] <Guest7095> sdc sdd is osd data disk
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[15:12] <m0zes> right, if you don't specify a "journal *partition*" when deploying the osd, it shoudl create a 5GB partition on the journal device with the right parttype uuid for journals. the default ceph udev rules trigger a chown when the parttype uuid is there.
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[15:12] <m0zes> you just specify the journal device.
[15:13] <m0zes> less /usr/sbin/ceph-disk
[15:14] <m0zes> the uuids specified about 20 lines down are the various parttype uuids that ceph looks for and uses.
[15:15] <Guest7095> ceph-deploy disk create ceph-osd1:sdc:sdb ceph-osd1:sdd:sdb? like this?
[15:15] <m0zes> that looks right.
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[15:16] <Guest7095> default size is 5GB? It cat be custom?
[15:17] <Guest7095> mistur's way is right, test OK, osd damond startup when system boot, use udev rule
[15:18] <Guest7095> m0zes,I'll try it.
[15:18] <m0zes> can be specified in ceph.conf osd_journal_size, specified in in megabytes
[15:19] <Guest7095> Oh,YES, I forgot this configration file...
[15:19] <Guest7095> document online is too old .......
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[15:21] <Guest7095> Thanks! m0zes
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[15:33] <mistur> m0zes: hello
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[15:34] <mistur> I have an issue with a fresh install
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[15:34] <mistur> (if you can backlog 4h ago you can see the description
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[15:35] <mistur> ceph -s : http://pastebin.com/y1ianeL0
[15:36] <mistur> ceph osd tree : http://pastebin.com/Hcuipc2j
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[15:36] <mistur> ceph osd perf : http://pastebin.com/PwjM7XU7
[15:36] <mistur> crushmap : http://pastebin.com/24m58MMm
[15:37] <mistur> ubuntu 14.04 / infernalis 9.2.1 / deploy with ceph-ansible
[15:38] <Guest7095> increase your pool's pg num
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[15:38] <m0zes> not yet
[15:38] <m0zes> there are pgs stuck creating.. it will just make more of them stuck.
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[15:39] <boolman> mistur: seems like ur crushmap is broken? you are using hosts, but use step chooseleaf firstn 0 type chassis
[15:39] <boolman> in your ruleset
[15:39] <m0zes> indeed. that would be the issue, boolman
[15:39] <mistur> ok
[15:40] <boolman> so "step chooseleaf firstn 0 type host" should solve your problem
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[15:43] <mistur> boolman: \o/
[15:43] <mistur> it works
[15:43] <mistur> thanks :)
[15:43] <boolman> np =)
[15:45] <mistur> ok I see why, I add this from a previous install in my ceph-ansible conf file :
[15:45] <mistur> ceph_conf_overrides:
[15:45] <mistur> global:
[15:45] <mistur> osd_crush_chooseleaf_type: 2
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[16:09] <theCanadianBaker> Is there any reason why Kubernetes couldn't just use /sys/bus/rbd to add and remove rbd devices?
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[16:10] <theCanadianBaker> I am sure there is a valid reason, I just can't seem to find anything discussing it
[16:14] <m0zes> I would bet you can. I can't guarantee it is a stable api, though.
[16:15] <m0zes> maybe #ceph-devel (or the mailing list) would have more info as to why it is a bad idea ;)
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[16:21] <theCanadianBaker> Thank's m0zes
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[16:27] <joshd1> marcan: no ordering guarantees beyond the same client and same object at the rados level
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[16:35] <marcan> joshd1: so same object, same client is guaranteed? that's what I was after, actually.
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[16:36] <marcan> as in send a flush (write) of an object, make some changes before it returns, send another flush (write), and be guaranteed that the second one is the one that will persist
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[16:47] <joshd1> marcan: not sure why you mention flush there, but yes, aio_writes from the same client to the same object should complete in order (single object is the level of transaction safety in rados as well, so e.g. set_omap(foo, bar) and write(x,y) in the same ObjectOperation are atomic)
[16:48] <marcan> joshd1: flush is from the application logical perspective (it's just an aio_write)
[16:49] <marcan> thanks for the confirmation; I knew the OSD layer was in-order and could do transactions, but I wanted to confirm that the client keeps that guarantee for simple ordered overlapped aio_writes
[16:49] <marcan> saves me from adding some more weird locking to this already somewhat confusing code :)
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[16:50] <joshd1> np, we should really make a better rados dev guide with this sort of stuff sometime
[16:52] <marcan> yeah, it would be nice to have a stricter description of exactly what is guaranteed and what you can and can't do. also for things like EC pools and such
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[16:52] <marcan> right now the documentation is somewhat scattered
[16:53] <marcan> not that I blame you, few people like to write docs :-)
[16:53] <guillaume_> hello, I would like to know if in the latest version of radosgw it use keystoneV3 or keystoneV2 to connect to openstack
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[16:54] <joshd1> the other thing that trips people up is making rados objects too large
[16:56] <joshd1> guillaume_: v2 for existing releases, not sure if v3 is in jewel or not (iirc someone was working on it)
[16:57] <guillaume_> joshd1, https://github.com/ceph/ceph/commit/a646103edea99495e935d13236521653eb04bae7
[16:57] <guillaume_> find it ^^
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[17:24] <jdohms> Does anyone have any links or suggestions on how to figure out sizing of cache tiers?
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[17:31] <Heebie> Just mail the cash to me.
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[18:43] <SamYaple> jdohms: sizing is going to be dependant on your usage
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[18:47] <jdohms> SamYaple: Yeah, understood. I was hoping someone had put some guidance down in writing. Even just anecdotal.
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[18:48] <jdohms> Like, if I'm storing windows & linux disk images, do I want to be aiming for 10% of my capacity in a cache tier or 40%?
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[19:11] <diq> FWIW for those remembering our TCP WAN discussion from yesterday, increase the ceph FS block size and stripe count has increased my throughput 5x
[19:11] <diq> I'm going to get some tcpdumps to show the comparison
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[19:13] <SamYaple> diq: yea thats because latency is going to be the slowest part. establishing that initial connection
[19:18] <diq> SamYaple, these are 900GB files though. That's not my problem.
[19:18] <diq> I've even turned up the OSD timeout
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[19:19] <SamYaple> diq: i wouldnt be so quick to say its not your problem
[19:19] <SamYaple> the latency between connections is why you can't get full throuput
[19:19] <SamYaple> thoughput*
[19:19] <rkeene> He knows about the BDP for an LFN, we talked about it yesterday
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[19:20] <rkeene> The problem is mysterious to me because I'm not even sure how an application could be aware of these things from inside the TCP stack
[19:20] <rkeene> As it was described, it sounds impossible so either: 1. the application is doing something "smart" that I don't know about; or 2. The description is imperfect
[19:22] <diq> SamYaple, iperf3 testing yielded 6-7gbps between 2 of the machines involved
[19:22] <diq> cephfs was only able to pull about 800mbps between a client and 7 of the nodes on remote side
[19:23] <SamYaple> diq: what was the window size?
[19:23] <diq> rkeene, the description might very well be imperfect
[19:24] <rkeene> diq, Yeah, I just don't know -- I'm only leaning that way because I have faith in my knowledge of the socket API, but I may be missing something that would allow the user to do this kind of thing
[19:24] <SamYaple> also you may want to look into tcp reuse I have seen that help speeds with lots of connections. ive never profiled cephfs
[19:24] <SamYaple> im just talking from a networking perspective
[19:25] <SamYaple> rkeene: i dont think the application is aware of the tcp stack so much
[19:25] <diq> why would tcp reuse be in play?
[19:25] <SamYaple> if you are opening 1000's of connections
[19:25] <SamYaple> as i said im not usre how cephfs works specifically
[19:25] <diq> the CephFS -> OSD connection is pinned up for 600 seconds in my config
[19:25] <diq> it doesnt' tear it down immediately
[19:25] <diq> by default it's 120 seconds?
[19:26] <rkeene> I think his argument was that he was maintaining a connection and the application was waiting for TCP ACKs before sending more, i.e., Window Scaling wasn't happening or being used
[19:26] <diq> rkeene, si
[19:26] <rkeene> That's what I understood to be the description, hence it's mysterious to me as to how that could happen
[19:26] <SamYaple> i was asking about window size on iperf
[19:26] <SamYaple> if its a 65k tcp window doing 6-7gb and a much much smaller one of your other tcp traffic...
[19:27] <diq> SamYaple, 32MB
[19:27] <diq> that's a single stream though
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[19:28] <diq> got a few hundred sockets going from CephFS client to all the various OSD's
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[19:28] <SamYaple> diq: uhhh pretty sure max is ~65k for window size
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[19:28] <rkeene> No
[19:28] <rkeene> Acknowledgement windows can be huge
[19:29] <diq> scaling windows allow them to be massive
[19:29] <diq> scaling window size rather
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[19:32] <SamYaple> oh yea of course youre right
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[19:33] <diq> here's my mount options for the cephfs client, perhaps they could use changing? rw,noatime,nodiratime,name=<redacted>,secret=<hidden>,osd_idle_ttl=600,rsize=16777216,readdir_max_entries=8192,readdir_max_bytes=4104304
[19:34] <diq> this is the kernel client centos 7 (3.10.0-327.10.1.el7.x86_64)
[19:35] <SamYaple> diq: rsize is readahead, are you shure you want that large a readahead?
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[19:36] <diq> is that large? Is that per OSD or for the whole "file" object?
[19:38] <SamYaple> default is 512
[19:38] <SamYaple> that number is <num>*1024 bytes
[19:39] <SamYaple> so 512k is the default. thats.... alot
[19:39] <SamYaple> oh nvm read docs wrong. thats only 16M
[19:39] <SamYaple> still default is 512k
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[19:41] <diq> I could try lowering it. These values are based off of what some of the developers (and sage) said in some old(er) mailing list discussions
[19:43] <SamYaple> i mean if you are out of ideas I would, i still think its probably kernel tuning thats going to help. but thats where my experience is at. i have little with cephfs
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[19:48] <diq> another question
[19:48] <The1_> also remember that you really cant compare cephs performance with iperf - there are a lot of things going on behind the scenes, that slows ceph down - just like with writes where a write has to be copied over the wires at least n times (where n is the number of copies your cluster is set up to keep), and I seem to remember something about reads beeing a slowed down too due to some internal requirements
[19:48] <diq> is there any rhyme or reason as to which ceph parameters have underscores in the name and which have spaces?
[19:49] <diq> osd crush update on start => space
[19:49] <diq> auth_cluster_required => underscore
[19:49] <The1_> they are analogues
[19:50] <The1_> you can write them either way you want
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[19:51] <diq> bummer. I was hoping that was the reason for my other problem. I've got OSD's binding to 0.0.0.0:* instead of the addresses inside of the "cluster network" option
[19:52] <diq> if I activate an OSD prior to setting that configuration option, is there anything necessary to get that option to take effect?
[19:52] <The1_> a restart should be enough
[19:53] <The1_> network settings are some of the only stuff you cant change runtime with injecting
[19:53] <diq> understandable
[19:53] <The1_> .. a restart of the daemon that is..
[19:53] <diq> upon further inspection, it's binding to both IP's individually. For example:
[19:53] <diq> tcp 0 0 172.16.10.133:6824 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 13871/ceph-osd
[19:53] <diq> tcp 0 0 10.123.124.143:6824 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 13871/ceph-osd
[19:54] <diq> one of those is my cluster network, one of those is my public network
[19:54] <The1_> and ceph.conf on the nodes are correct?
[19:54] <diq> and OSD traffic is definitely going over the public side
[19:54] <diq> The1_, yeah first thing I checked
[19:55] <The1_> I've got this
[19:55] <The1_> public_network = 192.168.80.0/22
[19:55] <The1_> cluster_network = 192.168.16.0/23
[19:56] <The1_> .. and I've got this
[19:56] <The1_> tcp 0 0 192.168.16.1:6800 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[19:56] <The1_> tcp 0 0 192.168.82.1:6800 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[19:56] <The1_> tcp 0 0 192.168.82.1:6801 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[19:56] <The1_> tcp 0 0 192.168.16.1:6801 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[19:56] <The1_> .. etc
[19:56] <The1_> but now that you mention it..
[19:56] <The1_> that is to be expected
[19:56] <The1_> the cluster network is where backfilling and recovery will run
[19:57] <The1_> the public network is where/how your clients will contact the OSds so data can flow
[19:57] <diq> oh yeah, missed that
[19:57] <diq> but replication should go over cluster network yeah?
[19:57] <The1_> and since you are using cephfs a client needs to contact the OSDs on the public net..
[19:57] <The1_> yes
[19:57] <The1_> backfill/replication etc etc..
[19:58] <diq> mine's going over both for some reason
[19:59] <diq> or are the connections established but not actually used?
[19:59] <diq> example:
[19:59] <diq> tcp 0 9 10.123.124.141:17239 10.123.124.144:6851 ESTABLISHED 13965/ceph-osd
[19:59] <diq> that's OSD to OSD connection on the public network
[20:00] <diq> it must be in use b/c it has a send queue of 9
[20:00] <diq> something is waiting to get out
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[20:02] <diq> n/m it seems to be cosmetic
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[22:46] <Jeeves_> Hi!
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[22:46] <Jeeves_> Q: Why are my OSD's unevenly filled, eventhough they have the same weight?
[22:47] <lurbs> Because CRUSH is better at being fast and consistent than fair.
[22:48] <SamYaple> Jeeves_: if its _really_ unbalanced, you can adjust the weights accordingly
[22:48] <SamYaple> ive had to do that on smaller clusters (fewer than 10 osds)
[22:48] <SamYaple> ive also had to do it on really full clusters
[22:48] <Jeeves_> /dev/sde1 889G 396G 494G 45% /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-5
[22:48] <Jeeves_> /dev/sdf1 889G 553G 337G 63% /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-6
[22:48] <Jeeves_> /dev/sdg1 889G 590G 299G 67% /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-7
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[22:49] <lurbs> Jeeves_: http://pastebin.com/raw/Muu2xk14
[22:49] <Jeeves_> The other node (currently just two nodes) show the same
[22:50] <Jeeves_> Ok. I don't really mind. But what if one becomes 'near_full' ?
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[22:50] <Jeeves_> Just rebalance and be done with it?
[22:50] <SamYaple> Jeeves_: as i said, you can adjust the weight
[22:50] <Jeeves_> Ok, coolio. Thanks.
[22:50] <lurbs> Ghetto script that outputs suggested commands for reweighting: http://pastebin.com/raw/LsivLpgV
[22:50] <lurbs> Assumes all disks the same size, etc.
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[22:52] <Jeeves_> lurbs: Great, thanks!
[22:53] <m0zes> if they are unbalanced, it *can* be an indicator that you don't have enough pgs.
[22:53] <lurbs> Yeah, it's worth checking for a root cause for the unbalance first.
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[22:54] <Jeeves_> I have 128 pgs on 6 osds
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[22:55] <m0zes> http://ceph.com/pgcalc/
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[22:56] <Jeeves_> That suggest 512 with a size of 2 and 6 osds
[22:56] <m0zes> yep, increasing those can increase the memory and cpu usage of the osds, though.
[22:56] <Jeeves_> so 128 is at least low
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[22:57] <Jeeves_> I'll upgrade it before I add my third box.
[22:58] <Jeeves_> Load is really low on the boxes. 6 core-boxes with max 8 OSD's per box
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[23:00] <baukin> Hi!
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[23:01] <baukin> I get segfault during ceph-osd starting
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[23:01] <baukin> ceph version 0.94.6 (e832001feaf8c176593e0325c8298e3f16dfb403)
[23:01] <baukin> 1: /usr/bin/ceph-osd() [0xaaff6a]
[23:01] <baukin> 2: (()+0x10340) [0x7f083aa32340]
[23:01] <baukin> 3: (()+0x74aaa) [0x7f08397f0aaa]
[23:01] <baukin> 4: (ReplicatedPG::make_writeable(ReplicatedPG::OpContext*)+0x139) [0x8851e9]
[23:01] <baukin> 5: (ReplicatedPG::prepare_transaction(ReplicatedPG::OpContext*)+0x3e3) [0x886cc3]
[23:02] <baukin> 6: (ReplicatedPG::execute_ctx(ReplicatedPG::OpContext*)+0x5ba) [0x88730a]
[23:02] <baukin> 7: (ReplicatedPG::do_op(std::tr1::shared_ptr<OpRequest>&)+0x4559) [0x88cee9]
[23:02] <baukin> 8: (ReplicatedPG::do_request(std::tr1::shared_ptr<OpRequest>&, ThreadPool::TPHandle&)+0x66a) [0x82702a]
[23:02] <baukin> 9: (OSD::dequeue_op(boost::intrusive_ptr<PG>, std::tr1::shared_ptr<OpRequest>, ThreadPool::TPHandle&)+0x3bd) [0x6961dd]
[23:02] <baukin> 10: (OSD::ShardedOpWQ::_process(unsigned int, ceph::heartbeat_handle_d*)+0x338) [0x696708]
[23:02] <baukin> 11: (ShardedThreadPool::shardedthreadpool_worker(unsigned int)+0x875) [0xb98555]
[23:02] <baukin> 12: (ShardedThreadPool::WorkThreadSharded::entry()+0x10) [0xb9a670]
[23:02] <baukin> 13: (()+0x8182) [0x7f083aa2a182]
[23:02] <baukin> 14: (clone()+0x6d) [0x7f0838f9547d]
[23:02] <baukin> Why is that? Is there any workaround?
[23:04] <baukin> If not, is there any method to move data from one osd to another by 'cp <osd-1> <osd-2>' ?
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[23:09] <Jeeves_> Is the disk normally mounted?
[23:09] <Jeeves_> (no clue whats going on, just shouting what I whould check)
[23:10] <baukin> OSD data placed in directory
[23:10] <joshd> baukin: that's probably a bug - can you file one at http://tracker.ceph.com and attach the log from the osd that crashed?
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[23:13] <baukin> I will do it later, but now I need to save the data, while the osd is down I have pgs down too
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[23:14] <baukin> is there any way to move it another osd using OS tools? What if I do simple cp to anther directory used by another osd?
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[23:18] <brians_> setting up a very small 3 node cluster - would http://d2bktxdiepbdhz.cloudfront.net/datasheets/2015/mar/2M6e-BK_Datasheet_English.pdf work for journals well ?
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[23:25] <wshi> I am trying to purge data using ceph_deploy (version 1.5.25), it failed with the error messages saying 'RuntimeError: refusing to purge data while ceph is still installed'
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[23:26] <wshi> a bug report at http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/8879 shows that it is fixed in 1.5.10. but in my 1.5.25 version, it shows up again.
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[23:31] <davidz2> baukin: A cp isn't going to work. You should bump osd debug and see what is in the logs.
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[23:39] <baukin> a bunch of lines 'pg ... state<Start>: transitioning to Primary'
[23:39] <baukin> 2016-03-09 01:34:07.092461 7f4ae74d6700 0 -- 10.0.253.128:6810/94935 >> 10.0.253.128:6804/2770 pipe(0x5c1e000 sd=17 :6810 s=0 pgs=0 cs=0 l=0 c=0x1fe28520).accept connect_seq 0 vs existi
[23:39] <baukin> ng 0 state connecting
[23:39] <baukin> 2016-03-09 01:34:07.092531 7f4ad1813700 1 osd.0 6210 ms_handle_reset con 0x1fe28520 session 0x568f400
[23:44] <baukin> last event in the thread with segfault is " -896> 2016-03-09 01:34:11.502979 7f4ac57fb700 20 osd.0 pg_epoch: 6211 pg[21.20( v 6211'1136268 (4683'1132203,6211'1136268] local-les=6211 n=764 ec=221 les/c 6211/5241 5810/6210/6210) [3]/[0] r=0 lpr=6210 pi=5240-6209/441 bft=3 crt=6207'1136266 lcod 6211'1136267 mlcod 6211'1136267 active+undersized+degraded+remapped+wait_backfill] make_writeable cca757a0/rbd_data.8739a5d205e20.00000000000005e0/head//21
[23:44] <baukin> snapset=0x216b72e0 snapc=851=[]"
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