#ceph IRC Log

Index

IRC Log for 2016-03-07

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

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[10:57] <harsha> Can someone help me where to start ? I am new here.
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[11:00] <sep> harsha, what do you want to accomplish ?
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[11:01] <harsha> i am interested in python3 support
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[11:04] <sep> harsha, you are very vauge... so i'm guessing on what you need.. :) ;; do you know what ceph is/does? do you want to code your own python application using ceph backend for storage ? start here for the python api http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/api/python/
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[11:09] <harsha> can i get to know some simple issues in the present code, and try to understand by fixing them.
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[11:17] <harsha> @sep, Can I know where I could find issues related to python .
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[11:25] <bjozet> harsha: http://tracker.ceph.com/projects/ceph
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[11:58] <dec> hmm, how constrained am I going to be with a little ARM CPU running an OSD?
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[12:04] <dec> I'm thinking things like using jerasure will be limited without SIMD instructions
[12:06] <joelio> I would imagine so, plus how much RAM is available (if it's a SoC?) - there are a few arm ceph implementations though as you probably know, so ymmv :)
[12:08] <dec> yes, not much RAM available - so read cache will have to either be on the machines mounting RBDs or in an SSD cache tier of some sort
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[12:45] <joelio> dec: there's still a decent chunk used per OSD under normal usage - the guide afair was 1GB per 1TGB OSD (could have changed mind)
[12:46] <T1w> joelio: it was 1GB/1TB
[12:47] <T1w> now its more like 2GB/1TB
[12:47] <T1w> especially with EC pools
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[12:47] <T1w> .. and even then you might see higher usages
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[13:08] <joelio> yea, sure under recovery stuff could swell too, more is definitely better
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[13:30] <boolman> upgrading form ceph 9.2.0 to 9.2.1 what is the upgrade path? mon>osd>mds?
[13:30] <boolman> perhaps its not important since its just a minor
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[13:32] <dec> T1w/joelio: hmm, so I'm re-thinking my "little-ARM-SoC per OSD" plan is probably not the best idea given the minimal RAM :(
[13:32] <T1w> boolman: always MONs first
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[13:32] <darkfader> dec: it'll have many LEDs to blink
[13:32] <T1w> and yes, then I'd take OSDs and then MDS/RGW
[13:32] <darkfader> but practical use is limited
[13:33] <dec> darkfader: have you some experience with low memory setups?
[13:33] <boolman> T1w: thanks
[13:33] <darkfader> dec: not any more
[13:33] <T1w> dec: if you can find a SoC with 2GB ram, it should be doable, but I doubt it will perform very well..
[13:33] <darkfader> i've got a lizardfs setup on low mem / cpu arm
[13:34] <darkfader> that has less footprint than ceph and it's not bearable
[13:34] <darkfader> (use it for backups, so it's ok)
[13:34] <darkfader> when the 96boards enterprise arm spec boards come along you could use arm
[13:35] <darkfader> but the current stuff is so slow
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[13:38] <dec> I guess I'd just assumed that the OSD was doing little but shuffling data around, and so CPU would not be too taxed.
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[13:55] <boolman> T1w: upgraded without any hassle
[13:55] <Walex> Intel NUCs are not quite "SoC" but they are still relatively small/low power
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[15:40] <rkeene> jdillaman, #14988 --- there's nothing that should cause a TCP problem, the Compute node (QEMU) and the Storage (Ceph) are connected via 10GigE on a relatively quiet network directly on the same VLAN
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[15:42] <rkeene> jdillaman, I moved the process from IDE to VirtIO for the disk and haven't seen the hang again so far
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[15:43] <rkeene> jdillaman, That's been the only change made, and I can go back and try it again with IDE to see if I can repeat it -- I'm trying to reproduce it on a new, non-customer, machine
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[16:14] <devicenull> does ceph-disk activate no longer create OSD mount points for some reason?
[16:14] <devicenull> I've been seeing failures until I 'mkdir /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-182'
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[16:29] <mbtamuli12> Has anyone here tried the ceph in docker? More specifically the 'ceph/demo' image?
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[17:15] <devicenull> ooh
[17:15] <devicenull> the /usr/sbin/ceph-disk-udev script doesn't work as intended as of infernalis
[17:15] <devicenull> it can't handle changing ownership of a partition
[17:15] <devicenull> & centos 6 doesn't support ID_PART_ENTRY_TYPE... sooo
[17:15] <jdillaman> rkeene: thx
[17:15] <devicenull> looks like custom version of cpeh-disk-udev time!
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[19:10] <diq> devicenull, can you/have you filed a bug on that?
[19:10] <devicenull> diq: Nope. CentOS 6 isn't even a supported OS in infernalis, so I have no confidence it would get fixed
[19:10] <diq> I'm still a little confused about how the disk activation thing is supposed to work on CentOS 7
[19:10] <diq> ceph-deploy doesn't do the right thing. I have to manually log on to each server (once) and run ceph-disk activate-all --mark-init systemd
[19:11] <diq> the UDEV stuff (which I think is on by default) just doesnt' work
[19:11] <diq> devicenull, ahh
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[19:12] <devicenull> the udev stuff looks like it should work, but it doesn't work with the version of udev in 6, so I dont know if it's actually working
[19:12] <diq> it doesn't work for me in centos 7/infernalis. At least the way ceph-deploy calls it.
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[20:22] <BlaXpirit> Hello. I'm trying to set up a cluster inside Vagrant as per the quick start example, with 4 cloned Debian 8.3 VMs. I'm getting an error "librados: client.admin authentication error (1) Operation not permitted". Here is how I'm doing it https://github.com/BlaXpirit/vagrant-ceph-quickstart/blob/master/Vagrantfile#L92 and the full logs https://bpaste.net/show/ace55cad0d87
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[20:48] <diq> question regarding CephFS striping/block size. Is that configurable outside of changing the defaults and recompiling?
[20:49] <diq> I've looked at tcpdumps, and it appears at though each client requests 32KB of data, gets it, and then sends an ACK
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[20:49] <diq> I'd like to increase that to 256KB or more to optimize for large files and bandwidth delay (WAN scenarios)
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[20:57] <m0zes> diq: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/cephfs/file-layouts/
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[20:57] <m0zes> of course, what you're seeing may be configurable with with rsize mount parameter.
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[21:06] <diq> nah
[21:06] <diq> the stripe from each OSD is only 32KB
[21:07] <diq> m0zes, thanks for the link! I'll check it out
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[21:31] <diq> that is, the OSD sends 32KB and waits for an ACK
[21:32] <diq> I think it's just a matter of upping the stripe sizes and # of stripes
[21:32] <diq> so thanks again for the link!
[21:34] <m0zes> I wouldn't think that would be the case, but who knows. I've just done my own tcpdump (downloading it from the cluster now)...
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[21:43] <m0zes> diq: I'm acking after every packet. 9000 bytes.
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[21:45] <The1_> acks after 32kb seems wrong..
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[21:46] <m0zes> 32 kb is definitely wrong.
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[21:48] <m0zes> because this is tcp, you need an ack for every packet. WAN connections are more likely ~1500 byte packets. it should be acking every kilobyte. unless you're not talking about a tcp ACK.
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[21:49] <The1_> you could try and use nagle and not wait for "enough" ACKs before sending the first one
[21:49] <The1_> but you should also tune send/recieve window sizes
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[21:51] <The1_> in WAN scenarios you can't be sure of anything - any hop between your clients and ceph could request a package to become fragmented and latency/throughput would suffer heavily
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[21:53] <BlaXpirit> I'm going crazy with this :(
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[21:54] <rkeene> m0zes, TCP doesn't work that
[21:54] <rkeene> m0zes, TCP doesn't work that way
[21:54] <rkeene> Wait, I misread what you said, sorry
[21:55] <rkeene> You will acknowledge after every packet, but the next packet won't be delayed by the lack of an acknowledgement
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[21:56] <diq> you shouldn't ACK every packet
[21:56] <diq> that'
[21:56] <joshd1> BlaXpirit: can you try the same thing interactively, so you can debug where the error comes from with strace or --debug-ms 1?
[21:56] <diq> that's what delayed ACK is for
[21:56] <BlaXpirit> joshd1, sure. I actually did it manually at first and everything leads to the same result
[21:56] <diq> these are WAN connections, but fairly stable "backbone" point-to-point links
[21:57] <diq> that is, not the public internet
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[21:58] <rkeene> Regardless of whether your do acknowledge an individual packet or larger ranges in your ack, additional packets won't be affected until you get to the end of your acknowledgement window
[21:58] <joshd1> BlaXpirit: try 'ceph health --debug-ms 1' to start, that'll show if it's even contacting the monitors, or doing something like failing to read the config file
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[21:58] <rkeene> (You'll start out with a small acknowldgement window and it'll grow as you fail to lose packets -- normally, your TCP stack doesn't have to implement slowstart)
[21:59] <BlaXpirit> joshd1, https://bpaste.net/show/e7925eb00efe
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[22:01] <joshd1> BlaXpirit: that is coming from the monitor, so perhaps your /etc/ceph/ceph.client.admin.keyring file isn't getting overwritten - if you can connect to the cluster from another host, you can check it against 'ceph auth list'
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[22:01] <diq> rkeene, yeah but the window isn't really expanding. I'm never seeing 3-4 datagrams from the server in a row and then an ack from the client
[22:02] <diq> it's data-ack data-ack data-ack
[22:02] <rkeene> diq, In your case what is your TCP window size ? Have you already optimized this for your BDP ?
[22:02] <diq> yeah
[22:02] <diq> iperf -> 6 gbps
[22:02] <diq> for a single stream
[22:02] <rkeene> Ceph wouldn't control that aspect of TCP -- I'm not even sure how you could control that
[22:02] <diq> it just feels like the client isn't requesting enough data to fill the window or the FS striping isn't optimal.
[22:02] <BlaXpirit> joshd1, another host says https://bpaste.net/show/1d2f8699d66c
[22:03] <m0zes> I know it doesn't have to ack every packet, but it isn't ceph's job to ack the tcp stream.
[22:03] <rkeene> m0zes, It's the kernel's job
[22:03] <rkeene> Right
[22:03] <The1_> diq: whats the bandwidth between your sites?
[22:03] <rkeene> Sorry, again, failing to read your statement m0zes
[22:03] <diq> 10gbps
[22:03] <The1_> hang on..
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[22:03] <joshd1> BlaXpirit: if you have the keyring somewhere other than /etc/ceph, you can pass it via the -k option
[22:03] <m0zes> right, so if the window isn't expanding, there is an issue with the kernel, or the underlying transport layer.
[22:03] <The1_> someone I know tried some interesitng stuff over a copenhagen-amsterdam link
[22:04] <The1_> I'll just have to dig it up
[22:04] <diq> The1_, thanks!
[22:04] <rkeene> diq, It might be instructional to see a capture where this happens and slowstart fails to increase the TCP acknowledgement window
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[22:05] <diq> rkeene, I've got some but it has data. I'll need to recapture with a smaller size
[22:05] <BlaXpirit> joshd1, ah nevermind, that was a temporary problem. a chmod +r - and now I'm getting the same error on a different host client.admin authentication error (1) Operation not permitted
[22:05] <rkeene> diq, tcpdump can do postprocessing IIRC
[22:05] <diq> The1_, that's roughly around the same distance as I'm going
[22:05] <The1_> ah, cph-lux I can see
[22:05] <rkeene> -r ... -w ... blahblah
[22:06] <m0zes> and wireshark can export filtered streams.
[22:06] <The1_> alas pages are in danish, but google translate should be able to help out
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[22:06] <The1_> http://www.version2.dk/blog/tuning-tcp-over-wan-forbindelser-iperf-testing-45077 - http://www.version2.dk/blog/high-performance-10gbit-paa-open-source-46685 and http://www.version2.dk/blog/10gbit-freebsd-med-intel-x520i82599-driver-47211
[22:06] <rkeene> I usually only resort to wireshark for its protocol analyzer if I don't know the protocol already, mostly tcpdump does the job
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[22:07] <The1_> I can't remember what his findings but it was quite interesting
[22:07] <m0zes> tcpdump is very nice for most things. I was just using wireshark to walk through a 2GB dump. less easy to do with tcpdump ;)
[22:08] <diq> The1_, thanks! I'll take a look at those
[22:08] <diq> I'm going to grab some lunch and bbiab. Thanks for everyone's help here!
[22:08] <The1_> diq: if you need some clarification I'll be around
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[22:09] <The1_> either from this client at home in the evenings or with my T1w client during office hours CET
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[23:00] <joshd1> BlaXpirit: basically that means the keyring doesn't match the cluster, so your cleanup steps, i.e. purge, purgedata, forgetkeys perhaps didn't get run or finish cleaning up everything before your last run
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[23:08] <blocky> I'm quite new to ceph and to storage in general, but I was wondering if there's any reason I couldn't use ceph for a home nas, running 3-6 OSDs, each with their own disk, 1 or more monitors, and any required metadata servers all on a single host?
[23:08] <SamYaple> blocky: you can run ceph on a single host
[23:09] <SamYaple> your data will still be as secure as raid (though some would argue more...)
[23:09] <SamYaple> running on a single host you need only one monitor
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[23:10] <blocky> i think it would be easier to grow organically as well?
[23:10] <SamYaple> you can grow it from a single node, yes
[23:11] <blocky> if i started with 3 disks and wanted to expand with ZFS i'd need to add 3 more disks simultaneously to use that new space, right?
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[23:46] <blocky> how many OSDs could I run on this cpu? http://ark.intel.com/products/72061/Intel-Celeron-Processor-1007U-2M-Cache-1_50-GHz
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[23:52] <SamYaple> blocky: where did ZFS enter the picture?
[23:52] <The1_> blocky: it depends..
[23:52] <The1_> you need to read the documentation and reach your own conclusions
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