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IRC Log for 2016-02-26

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[0:07] <wCPO> georgem, I'm not a expert, but wouldn't nginx be better?
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[0:23] <mischief> wCPO: you're using ceph?
[0:24] <wCPO> mischief, not at all. Considering it at the momemt, but I think the memory usage is to high for my usecase.
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[0:27] <wCPO> mischief, do you use it?
[0:29] <mischief> no but we're tracking http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/14360 currently. :\
[0:29] <motk> I summon leseb
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[0:33] <wCPO> mischief, what is the usecase? Block or object?
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[0:35] <mischief> uh
[0:35] <mischief> i don't really know anything about ceph. block i guess?
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[0:36] <wCPO> mischief, https://github.com/minio/minio is worth a look if it was object storage, missing the redundancy part, but they working on it
[0:36] <mischief> wCPO: they tried to hire me ;-)
[0:37] <wCPO> mischief, the world is small :)
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[0:49] <wCPO> mischief, where do you work now? If I can ask
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[0:52] <mischief> wCPO: coreos
[0:52] <wCPO> mischief, it a great product I heard :)
[0:53] <wCPO> I need to go to bed, have a good night/day or what the time is..
[0:53] <mischief> seeya
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[1:13] <BrianA> Hello, So I have been digging around and beating my head a bit today. It looks like using Civetweb on port 80 is not supported yet since it is a privileged port, right? Unless I run radosgw as root, I get permission denied trying to start it up
[1:14] <m0zes> BrianA: correct.
[1:15] <m0zes> I think there is a bug open for it. but yeah, run it as root if you want it on port <1024
[1:16] <BrianA> Sigh. And all that Redhat documentation that shows how to migrate to civetweb from fcgi with port 80 as the example... grrr.
[1:16] <BrianA> Yep I found https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/7313
[1:17] <BrianA> Don't want to install apache, any insight if it could work using port-forwarding with firewalld?
[1:22] <BrianA> well for what it's worth, it works great with port forwarding and firewalld :)
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[2:18] <Nixeo> hi
[2:19] <Nixeo> is this channel for finding beta testers?
[2:19] <Nixeo> I've developed a new website and I need some input
[2:23] <m0zes> this is not a specific channel for beta testers of random website, no
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[2:35] <snakamoto> Does anyone have any experience with RedHat contracted Ceph support and getting bugs patched?
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[3:01] <diq> video of today's Ceph Tech Talk in case anyone missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbdHxL0vc9I&feature=youtu.be
[3:02] <diq> snakamoto, no but I'm interestd in what you find out. We're in talks with RH on support.
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[5:51] <motk> viz civetweb - easy to use haproxy to do 8080->80 and do the SSL termination at the same time
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[7:32] <nofu> hi all, just popped in with a quick q :)
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[7:33] <nofu> ive got a ceph cluster in production and 1024 pgs. i popped a couple of osds in for leverage and now ceph is saying too few pgs. They are only temporary, will it be OK to leave them in or will it cause issues?
[7:34] <nofu> my ceph cluster is about to shrink, so im hesitant to up the pgs because when i soon rip a few nodes out then it will start to complain about that then
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[7:34] <nofu> my current understanding is that you can't decrease pgs
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[7:49] <brians_> morning all - if I have a cluster of 3 machines - each with 4 4tb nl sas drives so a total of 12 OSDs - do I create a single ssd journal of 10GB per machine- - or 1 for each OSD?
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[8:49] <IcePic> one for each osd, but you can split the ssd into parts and give one part to each osd
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[10:15] <stefanl> Hello! I'm trying to find information how to use the bluestore in the Jewel release but i can't find anything. Anyone have some pionters?
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[10:23] <adun153> I'm using ceph. Is it normal for OpenStack Instance snapshots to be very slow, when compared with Instance spawning?
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[10:26] <adun153> I'm using ceph. Is it normal for OpenStack Instance snapshots to be very slow, when compared with Instance spawning?
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[10:53] <Miouge> adun153: you mean taking the snapshot or booting it?
[10:53] <adun153> miouge: taking the snapshot.
[10:54] <adun153> I have a 3-node ceph cluster, totalling about 64TB. It shouldn't take that long to snapshot an 80GB instance, shouldn't it?
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[10:56] <IcePic> unless openstack asks for it in the "wrong way" and it becomes a copy, instead of some ceph-internal way of snapshoting.
[10:57] <IcePic> http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2015/10/05/openstack-nova-snapshots-on-ceph-rbd/ <- found via quick googlin
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[10:57] <Miouge> adun153: my openstack is setup with rbd drivers for glance, nova and cinder. I thibk as long as you use RAW format for the glance image it uses with ceph level snapshoting
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[10:59] <adun153> miouge: Yes, mine, too. liberty rbd drivers for glance, nove, and cinder as well.
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[10:59] <adun153> RAW images as well.
[11:00] <adun153> I'm just perplexed as to why it is taking so long :(
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[12:14] <Heebie> Does anyone know what "O.S.D." actually stands for? something or other Storage Device maybe?
[12:14] <Kvisle> object storage device
[12:15] <Heebie> Thanks Kvisle. I knew it, but my brain just couldn't come up with it.. not enough tea yet today! ;)
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[13:35] <stefanl> @Kvisle Isn't it object storage daemon?
[13:38] <Kvisle> stefanl: hm, you're right
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[13:40] <IcePic> OSD refers to the program that handles each partition, so "daemon" sounds right
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[13:51] <stefanl> Hello! I'm trying to find information how to use the bluestore in the Jewel release but i can't find anything. Anyone have some pionters?
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[13:57] <neurodrone_> Anyone ran into this? http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/9232
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[16:08] <Aeso> Quick question: If I erasure code a pool, is there any way to change the k and m values of the pool after creation?
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[16:16] <m0zes> no
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[16:19] <Aeso> m0zes, that's what I thought. Thanks.
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[16:20] <m0zes> would be nice, but that would be a *huge* operation touching every object, reading it in and re-striping/writing it. It would probably not be done by enough people often enough to get any kind of safe code coverage. it would take forever, and it would probably be easier just copying the objects to a new pool.
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[16:22] <m0zes> it would also require k+m values being stored in the object, which I don't think is happening. I'm pretty sure it is just in the crush-rule.
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[18:08] <cholcombe> does anyone remember how to restrict a cephx key to only be able to run certain commands?
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[18:24] <aarontc> Aeso: If you're unsure which k and m values are best, you can create a bunch of pools with different rulesets and test performance with your desired workload, then remove the pools you found to be subpar
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[18:27] <m0zes> I think the usual need for such a thing is setting up a small cluster with the expectation of growing it later. it may be reasonable to have a smaller k+m set for the initial roll-out and then want to make it more resillient when you have the money.
[18:27] <m0zes> i.e. setting size 2 when you've only got the money for 2 nodes, then size 3 once you've bought nodes 3 and 4.
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[19:02] <srk> hi, does cinder need to restart when ceph software is upgraded on openstack controller nodes?
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[19:29] <diq> oof new ceph-deploy is buggy
[19:30] <diq> [osd1-u.las][WARNIN] Error: Failed to add partition 1 (Device or resource busy)
[19:30] <diq> [osd1-u.las][WARNIN] (ignored, waiting 60s)
[19:30] <diq> it waits a lot longer than 60s....it's infinite
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[19:37] <diq> flag to disable that?
[19:37] <diq> even if it is 60 seconds, I've got nodes with 70 drives. That's over an hour of waiting to deploy a node!
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[19:45] <vasu> diq what kind device?
[19:46] <vasu> diq: did you specify all the 70 nodes on the same cli?
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[19:46] <vasu> 70 disks
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[19:48] <diq> yeah
[19:49] <diq> I guess it's technically 35 disks per node and 70 per chassis
[19:49] <diq> vasu, Quanta 4U storage server
[19:49] <diq> server(s)
[19:49] <diq> and yeah I put all 35 on the CLI (for loop)
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[20:05] <vasu> diq: fpaste output ? I can raise a tracker for this issue, looks like its waiting 60sec for each disk partition
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[20:13] <diq> yeah not at my term now but I can grab it
[20:13] <vasu> np thx
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[20:40] <LobsterRoll> in regards to ceph users, is it reasonable to create one user which could be used on multiple clients assuming I want all of those client machines to have the same level of access, or should I create one user per host with identical permissions or ???caps??? ?
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[20:57] <m0zes> it depends on how difficult it is to replace the keyring on all the hosts that are accessing the cluster in the event *one* of them gets compromised.
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[21:29] <[arx]> wouldn't you have to restart services that are actively using those keyrings?
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[21:31] <[arx]> like if libvirtd across multiple hosts shared one keyring, after revoking that key i would assume running vms kinda just lock up.
[21:32] <m0zes> I would assume so too.
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[21:41] <SDub> I'm wondering if anyone can help with a pretty bizarre ceph issue I've been dealing with for a few weeks
[21:41] <SDub> has to do with Openstack and the VMs not booting correctly.
[21:44] <LobsterRoll> thanks, I appreciate that, I guess i wanted to know if it was technically possible, which it sounds like it is.
[21:45] <LobsterRoll> good points about the implications however, I will have to weigh those with the difficulty of creating and deploying different keys in different places with my config management
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[22:16] <LobsterRoll> hrm, so ive prepared a ceph client when i do ???ceph -n client.cloud04 --keyring=/etc/ceph/ceph.keyring status --verbose --cluster=ceph??? it works but, ???ceph status??? doesnt work how can i get the needed information to be implied ?
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[23:50] <diq> performance aside, is ceph-deploy more reliable in hammer than infernalias?
[23:50] <diq> infernalis is pretty unusable for me
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