#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-02-18

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[0:11] <badone> kosfar: look at the ceph-objectstore-tool
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[0:12] <kosfar> badone: thanks, i checked its documentation but I understand that it acts on the PG level
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[0:13] <kosfar> the PG contains many objects and only 6 of them are unfound
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[0:13] <kosfar> do you know if and what the syntax could be for exporting and importing only these objects?
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[0:18] <badone> the only examples I can find are for pgs
[0:28] <kosfar> yeah, me too
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[10:48] <boolman> one of my monitors is reported as skew, how many ms is this limit set to ?
[10:48] <boolman> it is not more than 17 milliseconds off
[10:49] <boolman> often within 2ms of the other two nodes
[10:50] <boolman> "cluster [WRN] mon.1 10.3.138.29:6789/0 clock skew 0.080752s > max 0.05s" <- oh I found it
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[11:00] <Heebie> boolman: Are you running ntp on all your nodes?
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[11:03] <boolman> Heebie: yes I am, after a restart of the two other nodes, skew dissappeared
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[11:05] <Heebie> I've had that problem come and go. Always after restarting of mons.
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[11:10] <boolman> I was checking with date +%Y-%m-%d--%H:%m:%S:%N and I was no more than 17ms off
[11:10] <boolman> assuming I was able to execute the commands on the exact time ( from knife )
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[12:27] <nc_ch> hi ... i have a really bad problem with my ceph-cluster, all in a sudden, and i have no idea what is wrong ... i get blocked ops on an osd, if i stop the osd, i get blocked ops at another, if i restart the first osd, the blocked ops on the 2nd one go away, but i get blocked ops on the first one, again
[12:28] <nc_ch> ( 9 machines, with 15 osd's each )
[12:28] <nc_ch> and of course, the main problem is, that on the ceph-clients, i get waitstates and can't use the rbd
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[12:32] <boichev> I have an interested thing going on in my crushmap... I decompiled it and osd.4 that I removed from the cluster because it failed and now all the other are device 0 osd.0 for example but on 4 i see device 4 device4 ..... device 4 device4 and that keeps some pgs in stuck+active+clean state .... how to remove this device4 from the crushmap ?
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[12:45] <nc_ch> boichev, what version are you running ?
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[13:06] <boichev> nc_ch ceph version 0.80.7
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[13:07] <boichev> nc_ch I made the reweight to 0 then crush reweigt to 0, then osd out and osdr cursh remove
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[13:15] <boichev> nc_ch do you think another "ceph osd crush remove osd.4" will fix it ?
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[13:16] <nc_ch> boichev, i have no idea
[13:16] <nc_ch> i have a similar problem, but with a newer version
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[13:36] <foxxx0> hey guys. I'm running a 3-node cluster with 12osd/node on ubuntu14.04 with hammer-release. when rebooting one node after another (once the previous one is back online and cluster healthy again), some of my qemu-kvm VMs using RBDs are getting kernel panics. different hypervisors, different OSes, I can't seem to find a pattern
[13:37] <foxxx0> that is *really* bugging me, because the cluster is built for exactly that purpose, but when some VMs are crashing during that process, there is no benefit of having a HA storage cluster at all
[13:37] <foxxx0> all ceph and KVM nodes are running ubuntu 14.04 with the 3.19 ubuntu-vivid kernel
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[13:44] <hoonetorg> foxxx0: probably the resync processes take too much load and you get timeouts in your vm's
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[13:46] <hoonetorg> for a really small cluster i hv following setting (adjust for your needs)
[13:46] <hoonetorg> osd max backfills = 1
[13:46] <hoonetorg> osd recovery op priority = 1
[13:46] <hoonetorg> osd client op priority = 63
[13:46] <hoonetorg> osd recovery max active = 1
[13:46] <foxxx0> there literally is *no* resync
[13:46] <hoonetorg> k
[13:46] <foxxx0> besides: i have 36 VMs running in that cluster but only 3 died
[13:47] <foxxx0> here is the dmesg from a VM that didn't crash: https://paste.foxxx0.de/WJj/
[13:47] <foxxx0> yesterday morning one ceph osd node crashed, that's the wednesday timestamp
[13:47] <foxxx0> the last messages from today are the result of my *clean* cluster reboot
[13:48] <hoonetorg> do you use virtio-scsi
[13:48] <hoonetorg> in vm's
[13:48] <foxxx0> yes
[13:48] <hoonetorg> that should be ok
[13:48] <foxxx0> to able to use discard
[13:48] <foxxx0> to be*
[13:48] <hoonetorg> me too :)
[13:49] <hoonetorg> i'm not an expert here
[13:49] <hoonetorg> probably tuning of ceph/vm settings may help
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[13:50] <hoonetorg> the machine gets probably a panic, because of an error or a timeout from the scsi bus
[13:50] <hoonetorg> that needs to be prevented
[13:50] <foxxx0> that's my guess too, but it should *not* happen
[13:50] <foxxx0> 3 osd nodes, all running a MON daemon too + 2 hypvervisors are running a MON as well
[13:51] <foxxx0> so i always have >3 MONs
[13:51] <foxxx0> that already helped big time with some issues i had with only 3 MONs
[13:51] <hoonetorg> scsi busses of vm's should, in my opinion, have a nearly endless timeout, so if my storage hangs for 5mins not all my vms die
[13:52] <foxxx0> the storage should not hang at all
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[13:52] <hoonetorg> oh i've seen a lot, believe me
[13:52] <hoonetorg> 15 years
[13:52] <foxxx0> i have replica count 3, crush map defaults to failure domain of *node* but i also set min write replicas to 2, so write operation can complete with only 2 storage nodes
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[13:53] <foxxx0> so from what i understand, everything should continue working just fine even when one node goes down
[13:53] <hoonetorg> and yes you are right, it shouldn't happen in your case
[13:53] <hoonetorg> only with
[13:53] <hoonetorg> 1. insane short timeouts (like 10sec or so)
[13:53] <hoonetorg> or
[13:54] <hoonetorg> 2. scsi errors to vm (but where should they come from as from a timeout)
[13:54] <hoonetorg> if nobody else from the specialists is here now, ask again later
[13:56] <hoonetorg> ah, beside: rebooting a ceph node always makes short hangs on my servers, but that was never a problem
[13:56] <hoonetorg> 5 or 10 secs or so
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[13:56] <foxxx0> anything less than 30sec should be no problem at all IMHO
[13:56] <hoonetorg> yep
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[13:56] <hoonetorg> :+1:
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[14:27] <IcePic> for esx vms, I think the critical time is 120 secs, if I/O doesnt happen inside that timeframe, linux machines remounts file systems RO
[14:28] <IcePic> of course noone is happy if it stalls for 119 seconds "only", but the OS wont get into unrecoverable states at least.
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[16:15] <mewald> I have a Ceph cluster providing 3 pools: capacity, standard, performance. Each pool consists of 6 HDDs of type NL-SAS 2T, SAS TB, SAS 600 respectively and spread across 6 hosts. Testing the individual disks directly using a simple dd show NL-SAS @ 165 MB/s, SAS 1TB @ 198 MB/s, SAS 600 @ 225 MB/s. I began testing with the journal on the spinners and dd-ed to an RBD in each pool: Interestingly, the SAS 1TB show
[16:15] <mewald> ed around 18 MB/s better performance than the SAS 600 (testing HDDs directly it was the other way around) across all block sizes I tested with. More interestingly, the NL-SAS drives lie between 1 and 100 MB/s. And what's even worst: It looks like this does not even depend on the block size! Sometimes 8K perform at 1MB/s, sometimes at 100 MB/s. Reading from the same RBDs I see read performance on blocks smalle
[16:15] <mewald> r than 64K with approx 25 MB/s less performance than everything above that (not sure if that's normal). Can anybody provide some advise? I would say that as testing HDDs directly (without Ceph) shows repeatable and plausible results, it has to be in the Ceph layer somewhere.
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