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IRC Log for 2015-12-11

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[0:11] <joshd> Guest919: trusty itself still has python-rbd as part of the python-ceph package. if you install from a ceph.com repo, you'll see the python bindings were split into separate packages later (like python-rbd)
[0:13] <joshd> Guest919: I'd suggest using the ceph.com or later ubuntu repos, since the version in trusty (firefly) is eol upstream in january
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[0:16] <Guest919> joshd: are you saying that if I install python-ceph, I dont need to install python-rbd?
[0:18] <joshd> Guest919: yes
[0:18] <Guest919> ok - i'll try that - thank
[0:22] <Guest919> joshd: thanks - python-ceph does the job.
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[0:50] <KaneK> hi guys, what pg map is used for?
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[9:39] <proc_> I'm trying to use minio.io towards ceph radosgw but I'm not able to "unable to stat". But using boto.s3 python library in a simple script I manage to use it. Also, I'm able to connect to the radosgw with curl.
[9:39] <proc_> anyone know which version hammer support of the s3 api?
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[9:44] <proc_> oh, it was wrong version. It required S3v2
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[11:38] <Kvisle> I wrote a fluffy blog post about how we've solved backup of radosgw - it's something I have had trouble finding a solution for before, so it might be of interest; http://www.redpill-linpro.com/sysadvent/2015/12/11/backing-up-radosgw.html
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[11:52] <IcePic> Kvisle: thanks, saving it
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[14:39] <ram_> Hi Dillaman & Jdurgin. A gentle reminder, whether One of You People got a chance to review my patch. https://github.com/ceph/ceph-qa-suite/pull/735 Please review my Patch. When can I expect this patch will review for merging.
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[14:41] <sugoruyo> hi folks, has anyone seen messages like these before: cluster [WRN] failed to encode map e49742 with expected crc
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[14:49] <Heebie> This type of entry is showing up in my logs in relation to requests that are blocked > n seconds: 13:47:32.084731: osd_op(client.1197867.0:654940 rb.0.198d9.238e1f29.0000000001ed [set-alloc-hint object_size 4194304 write_size 4194304,write 36864~4096] 1.16229ab ack+ondisk+write+known_if_redirected e4508) currently waiting for subops from 13,20,23
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[14:50] <Heebie> It looks like every sata OSD that I have (each of which has a 4GB SSD journal) are ending up "waiting for subops"
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[15:44] <koma> Anyone has used Ganesha NFS with Ceph?
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[15:45] <bloatyfloat> Heebie: I've seen similar issues caused by SSD wear levels on consumer grade SSD journals, its likely worth checking the smart data to get the wear levels and comparing them to manufacturers notes
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[16:30] <Heebie> bloatyfloat: Thanks for the input. I'm using "enterprise grade" SSD's from Dell and they're nearly brand new, but that's something to check going forward. This, for anyone who has been following my saga for the last while... turned out to be a dodgy ethernet cable causing the network speed to renegotiate extremely often, and to negotiate to speeds that simply couldn't be expected to keep up... or so it seems. (I haven't had any nasty mes
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[16:37] <m0zes> I had some dodgy "enterprise" ssds from dell.
[16:37] <m0zes> make sure they aren't liteon ;)
[16:38] <m0zes> s/had/have/ (have since moved them from ceph use...
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[16:59] <TheSov2> when you build all flash, is there any point to seperating log disk?
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[17:00] <Aeso> TheSov2, our tests don't indicate there's any performance difference. Maybe if you had a faster NVMe-based journal you could see some benefit, though.
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[17:01] <TheSov2> I was thinking of the pcie nvme drives as osds
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[17:02] <TheSov2> intel 750
[17:02] <TheSov2> like 4 intel 750's per box
[17:05] <monsted> the 750s aren't terribly endurance friendly, but if you only expect to fill them once they should do very well :)
[17:07] <TheSov2> monsted, the whole point of ceph is to be able to have things fail :D
[17:07] <TheSov2> the 750's are cheap!
[17:07] <monsted> yes, yes they are
[17:07] <monsted> and REALLY FRIGGIN' FAST
[17:08] <monsted> i accidentally purchased one for my gaming rig - holy crap, it's fastt
[17:08] <monsted> s/tt/t/
[17:08] <TheSov2> "accidently"
[17:08] <TheSov2> is that codeword for wife aggro avoidance?
[17:08] <TheSov2> i got a revo3 myself
[17:09] <monsted> well, the real accident was the samsung 512 GB i bought two weeks before
[17:10] <monsted> "oh well, NVMe won't arrive any time soon, might as well bite the bullet and get some slow old crap... <two weeks passes and the 750 comes to market> Dammit!"
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[17:14] <TheSov2> so as I see it so far, 3 osds on 3 different systems are about as fast as 1 hdd disk
[17:15] <TheSov2> after you add osd 4 you actually start gaining speed
[17:15] <TheSov2> assuming a size of 3
[17:15] <monsted> a bit less with overhead, but yeah
[17:15] <lookcrabs> Can someone point me to any paper/website that explains what happens when osds go down to requests to get requests to the cluster?
[17:16] <TheSov2> when an osd dies, after 10 minutes the cluster will "out" the device
[17:16] <TheSov2> it will no longer recieve requests
[17:17] <TheSov2> lookcrabs, what exactly are you asking, can you break it down
[17:20] <lookcrabs> So after 10 minutes any requests should resolve again?
[17:20] <TheSov2> they resolve immediately
[17:20] <TheSov2> after 10 minutes the cluster rejects that osd
[17:20] <lookcrabs> basically I am seeing requests that are halting/waiting when osds are down
[17:20] <TheSov2> the clients have a map of the data storage location
[17:20] <lookcrabs> with n3
[17:20] <TheSov2> so if one doesnt respond it talked to the next guy
[17:21] <lookcrabs> halting for 4 days (fri,sat,sun,mon) when an osd went down over the weekend
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[17:22] <TheSov2> what does ceph -s say
[17:22] <lookcrabs> at the time it was health_Warn
[17:22] <TheSov2> no no about osds
[17:22] <lookcrabs> but now it's health_okay. I just restarted the osd as it went down but was no problems
[17:22] <TheSov2> it should say like 40 up 40 in
[17:22] <lookcrabs> it was a fs problem
[17:23] <lookcrabs> oh no it was 628 osds: 627 up, 627 in
[17:24] <lookcrabs> and it was rebalancing. After I restarted the osd on monday everything was fine but for some reason over the weekend we had issues :-(
[17:24] <lookcrabs> I thought it was supposed to elect temporary PGs with a new primary and all objects should resolve after ~10 min
[17:24] <TheSov2> thats whats supposed to happen
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[17:25] <TheSov2> but you as saying your osd didnt fail
[17:25] <TheSov2> oh i see
[17:25] <TheSov2> you had 1 down and out
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[17:25] <TheSov2> so yes it should automatically rebalance
[17:25] <lookcrabs> indeed. So even with that happeneing after ~10 min a new primary is elected (so I thought) and objects should resolve
[17:26] <lookcrabs> and data should rebalance to the new crush map but while thats happening requests should resolve
[17:26] <lookcrabs> what i am seeing is that they did not.
[17:26] <TheSov2> what is the size of the pool in question
[17:26] <TheSov2> replication size
[17:27] <TheSov2> and what version of ceph are you on
[17:27] <TheSov2> i know a while back there was an issue with osd flapping
[17:27] <TheSov2> its fixed noww
[17:27] <lookcrabs> it's size=3 and it's 94.5
[17:27] <TheSov2> wow
[17:27] <TheSov2> ok
[17:28] <TheSov2> 1 moment
[17:28] <lookcrabs> pool 1 '.rgw.buckets' replicated size 3 min_size 2 crush_ruleset 1 object_hash rjenkins pg_num 16384 pgp_num 16384 last_change 1888 flags hashpspool stripe_width 0
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[17:35] <Heebie> OK, so performance testing seems to verify that it was that dodgy cable causing ALL that trouble. :( Thanks for all your help with this over the last few days, folks! =D
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[17:42] <lookcrabs> wooo!!! I wish I was here so I could see what you did to figure that out Heebie! that's amazing!
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[17:45] <Heebie> lookcrabs: looked at a lot of logs. Nothing alerted us (we're monitoring with ganglia and some other tools) I noticed something was wrong when I updated software on nodes to see if that helped.. I got to THAT node, and apt-get update took close to a minute instead of 4-5 seconds. So, I started checking what was going on with ethtool, and the speed & duplex values changed every few seconds. I replaced the cable, and behaviour stopped.
[17:45] <lookcrabs> oh wow
[17:45] <lookcrabs> nice nice!!!
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[17:48] <bloatyfloat> Heebie: glad to hear it's resolved, thanks for updating :)
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[18:03] <TheSov2> dodgy cables
[18:04] <TheSov2> sounds pretty dodgy
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[18:36] <lookcrabs> hardy har har
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[18:44] <lookcrabs> so i'm not mistaken about osds going down, right? requests to .rgw.buckets should still resolve after 10min? clients shouldn'tbe halting for a whole day let alone 4
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[20:02] <magicrobotmonkey> hey is there a setting for rbd in ceph.conf so I dont have to specify --name on the cli?
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[20:25] <joshd> magicrobotmonkey: no, but you could use the CEPH_ARGS environment variable for that (it will apply to all ceph commands, not just rbd)
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[20:31] <TheSov2> lookcrabs, the only thing i can think of is a flapping osd disk
[20:31] <TheSov2> perhaps a shitty seagate constantly resetting?
[20:31] <lookcrabs> nope the disk stayed down when it was out :-(
[20:33] <lookcrabs> they are HGST HUS724040ALE640 drives which I hope are decently reliable. I didn't see it come back in without my intervention but I can't really be certain
[20:33] <lookcrabs> without trolling through the verbose logs :-(
[20:33] <lookcrabs> still trying to get ELK stood up to help parse a lot of this
[20:38] <lookcrabs> I do have graphite data showing that the disk remained down though so I am pretty sure but not certain
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[21:13] <mtb`> does anyone happen to know if during a filestore merge/split there are logs written out?
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[22:45] <brad_mssw> is gitbuilder down?
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[23:57] <fen> hi
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[23:58] <fen> quick question: i have an logical volume i want to use as journal - i did ceph-deploy osd create node01:/dev/sda:/dev/vg0/cache00
[23:58] <fen> but i only get an error
[23:58] <fen> Failed to execute command: ceph-disk -v prepare --cluster ceph --fs-type xfs -- /dev/sda /dev/vg0/cache00
[23:59] <fen> INFO:ceph-disk:Running command: /sbin/parted --machine -- /dev/vg0/cache00 print
[23:59] <fen> Error: /dev/dm-2: unrecognised disk label
[23:59] <fen> do i have to format them myself and mount it somewahre?
[23:59] <fen> somewhere

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