#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-11-06

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[3:45] <keeperandy> Is the ceph-extras repo no longer a thing?
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[4:23] <m0zes> ceph-extras is no more, keeperandy
[4:24] <keeperandy> OK, I googled aorund abit and found out oVirt's repo has a qemu-img-ev that has rbd support enabled
[4:24] <m0zes> everything that was in ceph-extras isn't needed anymore fwict, except the rbd patched qemu for centos 6. and it wasn't being kept up to date anyway. still vulnerable to venom.
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[4:25] <keeperandy> as of today at least, CentOS 7.1's qemu-kvm is not supporting rbd
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[4:25] <m0zes> I don't do virtualization on centos or redhat, so I did not know that. I was under the impression qemu on centos 7.1 had rbd fully supported
[4:26] <keeperandy> oops, I'm wrong
[4:26] <keeperandy> I was querying the wrong place
[4:26] <m0zes> hooray! I wasn't misinformed :)
[4:26] <keeperandy> I thought I had to install qemu-system-x86_64 to check , but that led me to a false negative
[4:27] <keeperandy> qemu-system-x86_64 is how you check on Deb, on EL it is just /usr/libexec/qemu-kvm -drive format=?
[4:27] <keeperandy> nothing to see here! thanks
[4:33] <TheSov> eh?
[4:33] <TheSov> wtf is redhat doing to ceph man
[4:33] <TheSov> i dont want to go back to using 1 off storage
[4:34] <TheSov> i dont use centos or redhad
[4:34] <TheSov> this is annoying
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[8:00] <kiranos> hi I'm doing "ceph pg 0.175 query" on a down+peering pg
[8:00] <kiranos> but its not getting any info
[8:00] <kiranos> it just locks up
[8:00] <kiranos> anyone seen this before?
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[8:32] <Be-El> hi
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[9:30] <mewald> Is there any reason not to run a read-only cache pool from memory?
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[10:57] <loicd> if the OSD are behind a firewall and the MON on the internet, would that be a problem ? I think the MON never try to connect to an OSD, it's always the OSD connecting to the MON with a tcp connection. But I never actually tried that :-)
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[11:06] <Heebie> I think the MON's are constantly in-contact with the OSD's, so not having them available locally is probably not a great idea. It'll likely introduce significant latency.
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[11:09] <loicd> Heebie: but do the mon try to establish a new TCP connection to the OSD at any time ? The latency is not too much of an issue there.
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[11:13] <Heebie> That I don't know. Watch netstat for a while on the MON to see exactly what connections are coming & going. Maybe do netstat -nape > netstat.out continuously for 5 minutes and look at what connections are open, created etc.. by the mon process (inbound and out) or put in some firewall rules that just log anything to/from the network with the OSD's to see exactly what's going on.
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[11:35] <Heebie> Did my message cut off? If so, please let me know where.
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[12:26] <Anticimex> is this the standard way to run multiple rbd cinder pools to one and same nova hypervisor?
[12:26] <Anticimex> http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2015/09/15/openstack-nova-configure-multiple-ceph-backend-on-one-hypervisor/
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[12:29] <T1w> hm, on RHEL7 when I do a "ceph-deploy mon create-initial" I get an error about messagebus socket not existing
[12:29] <T1w> doing a strace on the systemd-run command I can see that the process looks for the socket at /run/dbus/system_bus_socket and not on /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[12:29] <T1w> why and how can I control that?
[12:30] <T1w> the default path is specified in /etc/dbus-1/system.conf and has not been changed
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[13:01] <T1w> dammit
[13:02] <T1w> why on earth does it look at that path?!
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[13:04] <T1w> hm, the culprit is definately systemd
[13:04] <T1w> it can be reproduced with a simple sudo /bin/systemd-run -r bash -c 'ls'
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[13:38] <KaZeR> hi there
[13:39] <KaZeR> i could use some help getting rid of unfound objects
[13:39] <KaZeR> i have 16 OSDs, all up
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[13:39] <KaZeR> none went down lately, but i have unfounds
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[13:51] <Jowtf> perhaps, start with this one: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/troubleshooting/troubleshooting-pg/#unfound-objects
[13:53] <KaZeR> yes i'm currently reading it
[13:54] <KaZeR> the list_missing command isn't returning tho. no results displayed, and it has been running for a moment
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[14:05] <KaZeR> yep looks like my cluster is somewhat stuck
[14:05] <visbits> :(
[14:06] <visbits> KaZeR do your mon logs show flapping of osds
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[14:07] <KaZeR> visbits: not that i can tell : https://bpaste.net/show/ffa2d34383d3
[14:08] <visbits> anything on the actual osd log either?
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[14:10] <KaZeR> 2015-11-06 07:43:25.811769 7ff0c125a700 0 log [ERR] : 3.61 has 2 objects unfound and apparently lost
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[14:10] <KaZeR> i have a few of these too :
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[14:10] <KaZeR> 2015-11-06 07:49:00.341562 7ff0deaf6700 0 -- 192.168.20.86:6800/6109 >> 192.168.20.141:6802/2615 pipe(0x7ff0f7a6d680 sd=95 :6800 s=2 pgs=207 cs=5 l=0 c=0x7ff0f7681a20).fault with nothing to send, going to standby
[14:14] <visbits> i think that message is fine
[14:14] <KaZeR> i think that the root cause is a network maintenance that happened
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[14:16] <KaZeR> i still don't understand why it's blocked tho
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[14:18] <visbits> whenever i have a "blocked requests" i just restart that osd and it clears it
[14:18] <KaZeR> thanks i'll try that
[14:18] <visbits> ive never had any issues caused by that, ive seen people talk about it but no ones figured out the root cause other than the operation failed on that osd
[14:19] <KaZeR> would it impact my capability to run a list_missing ?
[14:19] <visbits> possibly
[14:19] <Amto_res> Hello, i have Ubuntu 12.04 with 4 OSD.. i'm going upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04 .. I Can delete OSD and re-install system or just run apt-get dist-upgrade ? Thanks for replies
[14:19] <visbits> thats an ubuntu specific question
[14:19] <visbits> ceph will persist provided you run the same code version or newer after the upgrade
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[14:27] <KaZeR> how often should a monitor election occur ?
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[14:32] <m0zes> not often.
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[14:33] <m0zes> it should only happen if one of the monitors isn't keeping up.
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[14:37] <KaZeR> ok. this is happening quite a lot
[14:37] <KaZeR> always the same one winning the election
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[14:39] <KaZeR> here's a log excerpt from sn01a : https://bpaste.net/show/8f388f608092
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[14:47] <mistur> hello
[14:48] <mistur> I'm using ansible-ceph to deploy and manage my ceph cluster
[14:48] <mistur> the first time I use it everything was ok
[14:49] <mistur> and now it stuk on TASK: [ceph-mon | collect admin and bootstrap keys]
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[14:49] <mistur> on my 3 mon server I have "/usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/ceph-create-keys --cluster=ceph -i iccluster017"
[14:50] <mistur> but nothing seem to work
[14:50] <mistur> is that because antropy is too low ?
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[15:07] <KaZeR> visbits: m0zes: restarting the faulty OSD unblocked my cluster
[15:08] <visbits> :)
[15:08] <KaZeR> thanks for your help!
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[15:11] <KaZeR> still have a few active+clean+inconsistent to fix tho
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[15:42] <TheSov> morning all!
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[16:44] <mistur> I have this in my log INFO:ceph-create-keys:ceph-mon is not in quorum: u'probing'
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[16:44] <olid17> ^^
[16:44] <olid17> yeah
[16:44] <olid17> i just wrote to the ceph maillist because of it
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[16:45] <olid17> if you check
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[16:45] <babilen> What are sensible caching strategies for reducing latency? (e.g. SSD bcache on clients) How do they cope with node/disk/hw failures?
[16:45] <olid17> python /bin/ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon=/var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.<your-mon-id>.asok mon_status
[16:45] <olid17> you will see
[16:45] <olid17> "addr": "0.0.0.0:0\/1"
[16:46] <olid17> thats why, its not working i think, but where it comes from, i have no idea
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[16:47] <mistur> olid17: I'm deploying a new cluster with ansible-ceph
[16:47] <mistur> it was working yesterday
[16:47] <olid17> i try to add a new mon to an existing cluster
[16:47] <olid17> no luck so far
[16:48] <olid17> osd is working fine
[16:48] <olid17> mon not
[16:49] <mistur> olid17: I'm doing test so there is no data yet in my cluster
[16:50] <olid17> well it does not matter if you have data or not
[16:50] <olid17> if you build up a cluster, you need monitor servers
[16:50] <olid17> and as it seems, the creation of your mon servers does not work, just like with me
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[16:51] <mistur> olid17: yep
[16:54] <TheSov> eh?
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[16:56] <olid17> whats unclear TheSov ? :)
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[16:57] <TheSov> you guys deploy ceph weird
[16:57] <olid17> why wired ? its according the standard doku
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[16:58] <olid17> http://docs.ceph.com/docs/giant/rados/deployment/ceph-deploy-mon/
[16:58] <olid17> ^^;
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[16:58] <sasha1> TheSov: hi, so I redeployed , this time with 2 monitors
[16:59] <sasha1> TheSov: right away I hit the " 64 pgs stuck inactive 64 pgs stuck unclean"
[16:59] <olid17> how many osd's do you have ?
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[16:59] <sasha1> olid17: TheSov: http://fpaste.org/287670/46825579/
[17:00] <olid17> well at first you should correct your clocks
[17:00] <sasha1> olid17: adding the osd, will turn the health_err to health_warn, but how do I get rid of that pgs stuck
[17:00] <olid17> means, go for ntp
[17:00] <olid17> ans sync the time on all hosts, and keep it synced with a cron or install ntpd
[17:00] <olid17> thats ultra important
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[17:01] <olid17> otherwise all go shit within clusters when nodes have different time, and already 0.0X seconds might be enough
[17:01] <sasha1> olid17: I made sure the time is the same on all, but... I;ll fix it in a minute...
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[17:02] <olid17> yeah, just ntpdate <timeserver> for example ntpdate time.fu-berlin.de ( german university )
[17:02] <olid17> and run this on all hosts
[17:02] <TheSov> sasha1, wtf LOL
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[17:02] <TheSov> thats really weird
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[17:03] <sasha1> olid17: I already did that, but...
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[17:04] <olid17> anything intresting in the logs ? whats doing ceph -w ?
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[17:05] <sasha1> olid17: TheSov: http://fpaste.org/287675/14468258/
[17:06] <TheSov> hold on
[17:06] <TheSov> im firing up my virtual enc
[17:06] <TheSov> env
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[17:06] <TheSov> im gonna build a cluster from scratch
[17:06] <TheSov> sasha must be doing something wrong here
[17:06] <olid17> did you already try a simple service ceph restart mon on all hosts ?
[17:06] <olid17> whats the output of ceph -w ?
[17:06] <sasha1> TheSov: I'm using a vm now as my initial machine (previously that was a BM machine)
[17:07] <sasha1> http://fpaste.org/287677/14468259/
[17:07] <sasha1> olid17: ^^
[17:07] <sasha1> stuck
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[17:07] <olid17> mon.0 [WRN] mon.2 10.8.30.200:6789/0 clock skew 1.20067s > max 0.05s
[17:07] <olid17> well thats intresting ^^;
[17:08] <olid17> what about time zones ?
[17:08] <olid17> all time zones same on all nodes ?
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[17:10] <sasha1> olid17: EST on all
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[17:11] <olid17> and you dont have other machines with the same ip in the network ? ^^;
[17:12] <olid17> and you already tried to restart the mon server or the complete server ^^;
[17:12] <m0zes> are you running ntpd to keep the time in sync?
[17:12] <olid17> thats really strange that ceph thinks your host clocks are not in sync
[17:12] <sasha1> m0zes: not yet - going to do it now
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[17:15] <sasha1> m0zes: olid17: now I have the ntp configured , same issue
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[17:18] <m0zes> it only checks for time sync every few minutes, iirc.
[17:18] <sasha1> m0zes: the time is synced though
[17:19] <olid17> well i guess we can assume, that the systemtime is sync, but ceph does not see it
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[17:20] <olid17> if you dont see anything in dmesg, and if you already tried a reboot of the complete servers, and if you are sure, that you dont have other machines, with the same IP in the network, then i have no idea ^^;
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[17:39] <sasha1> olid17: m0zes: TheSov: http://fpaste.org/287705/14468278/
[17:39] <sasha1> the clock skew is fixed after I restarted ceph
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[17:39] <sasha1> how do I eliminate the 64 pgs stuck
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[17:42] <mfa298_> sasha1: they'll be stuck creating until you have enough disks in ceph for them to be created on.
[17:42] <olid17> yep
[17:42] <olid17> add osd's
[17:43] <sasha1> mfa298_: olid17: I warned you :)
[17:43] <olid17> about what XD
[17:43] <sasha1> olid17: sec, adding osds
[17:44] <olid17> yeah well thats clear, you have to add osd's of course, otherwise he cant create a map
[17:44] <olid17> but very very first, always have to get rid of clock screws
[17:44] <olid17> otherwise things just get worst
[17:44] <sasha1> olid17: yesterday the creation of osd didn't solve the stuck pgs issue, re-checking now
[17:45] <mfa298_> reading back a bit, you really want to have ntpd running on all the ceph servers, my experience is that ntpdate isn't enough as it won't always get the clocks in close enough sync,
[17:45] <olid17> maybe the clock screw issue
[17:46] <mfa298_> sasha1: you'll need to have enough OSDs on enough hosts to fufil the crush rule requirements - if you've got the default crush rules that really means at least three hosts with OSDs configured
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[17:50] <mfa298_> Also 2 mon servers is probably a really bad idea, if either one goes down your cluster will stop as the remaining mon won't have quorum - Similar issues might occur if you start off with one mon and try upgrading to two (I've only ever deployed with three mon servers)
[17:51] <olid17> as far as i remember, he said he tried with 3 initially, but because of the problems go down to 2
[17:52] <olid17> but lets see, if his PG problem get solved now when he adds osd's
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[17:58] <visbits> you need 1 3 5 ect
[17:58] <visbits> you dont want a split brain situtation
[17:58] <visbits> unless your data is junk :)
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[18:01] <mfa298_> ceph shouldn't let you go split brain, the quorum rules mean you need at least floor(monhosts/2)+1 for the cluster to work (so for 2 mon hosts, you need 2 mons up and working, for 3 you need 2, for 4 you need 3)
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[18:22] <sasha1> mfa298_: olid17: http://fpaste.org/287732/46830475/
[18:22] <olid17> whats ceph -w doing ?
[18:23] <sasha1> olid17: 2015-11-06 12:22:49.566152 mon.0 [INF] pgmap v30: 64 pgs: 64 active+undersized+degraded; 0 bytes data, 199 MB used, 30454 MB / 30653 MB avail
[18:23] <sasha1> olid17: 2015-11-06 12:23:25.790147 mon.0 [INF] pgmap v32: 64 pgs: 64 active+undersized+degraded; 0 bytes data, 197 MB used, 30455 MB / 30653 MB avail
[18:23] <sasha1> the MB used got updated
[18:24] <sasha1> TheSov: how does your virt env look?
[18:24] <TheSov> im building now
[18:24] <TheSov> u use debian correct?
[18:24] <sasha1> TheSov: rhel7.1
[18:24] <TheSov> ugh
[18:25] <TheSov> why do people use rhel
[18:25] <olid17> because its better for professional usage
[18:25] <sasha1> TheSov: stability/support/cert
[18:25] <TheSov> how did you come to that conclusion?
[18:25] <olid17> centos / redhat can go back on packages
[18:25] <olid17> debian not
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[18:26] <TheSov> whats a good screen recorder for windows thats free?
[18:27] <TheSov> im so not good with windows, and yet im forced to use it, like some kind of animal
[18:28] <mfa298_> sasha1: ceph pg dump might give you an idea of what's going on.
[18:29] <mfa298_> you may also find re-starting the osd processes helps, I've had cases where they've not all initialized properly first time
[18:30] <olid17> sorry TheSov i have no good thing for windows capture
[18:30] <mfa298_> you'll probably also want more placement groups, either by creating more pools, or by increasing the pg/pgp count on the default rbd pool
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[18:34] <sasha1> mfa298_: http://fpaste.org/287736/44683122/
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[18:34] <sasha1> mfa298_: nope, I'm still confused :)
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[18:38] <TheSov> ok i have all my ubuntu servers made
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[18:39] <mfa298_> sasha1: the [0] 0 [0] 0 for up up_primary acting acting_primary doesn't look right in there, for a default crush rule there should be three numbers in the up and active sets.
[18:40] <mfa298_> if you havn't already it might be worth restarting the osd processes
[18:40] <sasha1> mfa298_: how do I do that?
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[18:40] <sasha1> mfa298_: http://fpaste.org/287738/68316301/
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[18:41] <mfa298_> presumably with the same init/systemd commands you used to start it initially (I've only used ceph on ubuntu which is upstart based)
[18:41] <sasha1> mfa298_: restarting ceph doesn't help
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[18:42] <mfa298_> you might need to look at the osd logs and see if there's anything in there.
[18:43] <mfa298_> which ceph version are you using ?
[18:43] <sasha1> mfa298_: ceph-0.94.5-0.el7.x86_64
[18:43] <sasha1> mfa298_: I reinstalled several times and I end up with the same issue
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[18:45] <mfa298_> I'd probably have a look at the individual osds and see if they report anything useful, start with the logs, but you might also want to look in the mount points
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[18:46] <mfa298_> if the pgs have been created you should be able to see some folders in the <osdmount>/current folder in the form <poolid>.<pgid>_head
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[18:49] <kiranos> I have an "incomplete" pg and I cant find any documentation of best approach to remove it
[18:49] <kiranos> or fix it but I believe that boat has sailed
[18:50] <kiranos> does anyone know of such documentation?
[18:50] <kiranos> http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/troubleshooting/troubleshooting-pg/ its not listed here
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[18:54] <TheSov> jeese man, i cannot find any free screen recording software for windows that doesnt either have a time limit that is ridiculously small or is full of spyware
[18:55] <kiranos> TheSov: win10
[18:55] <kiranos> win+g
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[19:03] <TheSov> well i got 7
[19:03] <TheSov> im not going to 10
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[19:37] <sasha1> TheSov: did you manage to make it work on your env?
[19:37] <sasha1> TheSov: about to give up on VM
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[19:56] <mfa298_> sasha1: how big are your OSD drives? If it's in a VM you might not have enough space (which certainly looks possible based on the 0s in the weight column of osd tree)
[19:57] <sasha1> mfa298_: 10G each
[19:57] <sasha1> mfa298_: 6 in total
[19:57] <sasha1> mfa298_: 2 on each vm
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[19:58] <mfa298_> that might be too small, I think the default journal partition will use most of that.
[19:58] <mfa298_> I think when I tried in VM I used something like 50G (thin provisioned)
[20:00] * sasha1 retries with 50g disks
[20:00] <sasha1> mfa298_: thanks ^^
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[20:01] <mfa298_> I've not had that problem in a long while, plenty of real hosts to run it on now
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[20:03] <sasha1> mfa298_: the same steps work for me on BM servers
[20:03] <sasha1> mfa298_: but I have 2TB drives there
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[20:32] <TheSov> sasha1, its almost ready
[20:36] <sasha1> TheSov: I started to rebuild the BM env I have with the same steos
[20:36] <sasha1> TheSov: how big are your osd?
[20:36] <sasha1> drives
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[20:43] <TheSov> 16gb
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[20:48] <sasha1> TheSov: just followed exactly the same steps on BM setup HEALTH OK
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[22:13] <BoJangles> I am having some issues running radosbench via cbt. my logfile doesn't show any errors. I also don't see any traffic on the cluster when I ceph -w
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[22:29] <sasha1> TheSov: mfa298_ olid18: found the culprit
[22:30] <sasha1> TheSov: mfa298_: olid18: make sure to use bigger disks, I tried with 50 GB drives and now have HEALTH_OK
[22:33] <olid18> really ?
[22:33] <olid18> because of small disk ?
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[23:49] <Anticimex> sage: minimal nit on infernalis 9.2.0 blogpost, the backquotes in the firefly upgrade algorithm's 5th step became wordpress-italics
[23:50] <Thunderbird> how do you set up a ceph journal by hand (without ceph-disk)? Is it just a matter of making a symlink folder in the OSD directory to e.g. a block device and then calling ceph-osd with --mkjournal?
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