#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-11-05

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[0:59] <- *abartlet* which one?
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[1:06] <diq> I understand that there's a push to move ceph towards rocksdb, will that mean no more filesystem storage and use raw block devices instead?
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[1:07] <diq> things like Apache Traffic Server already use raw block devices for speed, it seems like Ceph could have some really nice perf gains there
[1:07] <diq> I am, completely spitballing BTW.
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[1:49] <flaf> Hi, do you know if there are documentation somewhere concerning these two ceph.conf parameters: mon_osd_min_down_reporters and mon_osd_down_out_subtree_limit?
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[1:55] <flaf> I have a little cluster with 5 nodes and 3 OSDs per node and I would like to know if set ???mon_osd_min_down_reporters = 3??? and ???mon_osd_down_out_subtree_limit = host??? are relevant.
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[9:28] <Be-El> hi
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[15:33] <Heebie> When using volumes exposed to VM's using libvirt.. those are required to be pointed to a specific MON in the configuration file. Is there some way to grant them resilience in the event that the MON in question fails or is intentionally rebooted?
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[15:43] <TheSov> Heebie, you could use a highly available roundrobin dns
[15:43] <TheSov> instead of IP
[15:43] <babilen> Or a shared/lb'ed IP
[15:44] <TheSov> that too
[15:44] <TheSov> but then you need HA load balancers
[15:44] <babilen> sure ///
[15:44] <mistur> m0zes, MentalRay : I did a small bench on on drive in my config
[15:44] <TheSov> you could in theory just install dns on the monitor nodes themselves
[15:44] <mistur> # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M count=$((1024*200)) oflag=direct
[15:44] <mistur> 204800+0 records in
[15:44] <mistur> 204800+0 records out
[15:44] <mistur> 214748364800 bytes (215 GB) copied, 947.035 s, 227 MB/s
[15:44] <TheSov> and setup a stub zone
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[15:45] <TheSov> mistur, thats some good speed how many osd you got?
[15:45] <mistur> 50
[15:45] <TheSov> not bad
[15:46] <mistur> TheSov: the dd in only on one disk in jbob
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[15:46] <TheSov> one disk? over the network?
[15:47] <m0zes> that is certainly better than I would have expected.
[15:47] <mistur> TheSov: no, just testing on the server localy
[15:47] <TheSov> ok!
[15:47] <TheSov> lol thats different
[15:47] <mistur> TheSov: yup
[15:48] <TheSov> i want to know your speeds on ceph over the network
[15:48] <mistur> now I have 50 disks like that to play in 5 nodes
[15:48] <TheSov> it seems theres a point of diminishing returns for any single host
[15:48] <mistur> TheSov: that's what I have to est
[15:48] <mistur> test*
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[15:49] <mistur> but yesterday we talk about disk speed, and I did some test without oflag=direct
[15:49] <TheSov> well in my tests so far using a very small ssd cluster that i had to borrow from our perf lab. i maxed out at a 400MBS
[15:49] <TheSov> thats with 10gig nics bonded
[15:50] <mistur> TheSov: I did that yesterday without oflag=direct
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[15:50] <ksingh> i am planning to upgrade operating system from EL6 ???> EL7 on Ceph OSD node. ??will Ceph cluster detect all the OSD nodes as soon as i upgrade to EL7 and install Ceph binaries ? I mean if i dont wipe OSD disks ?
[15:50] <mistur> with the flag I was at 55MB/s
[15:50] <ksingh> an someone suggest
[15:50] <TheSov> mistur, your milage will vary but thats the fastest i could get out of ceph, adding a second "testing" system i figured out the cluster could go faster, but not any 1 single host
[15:51] <mistur> TheSov: I see
[15:51] <TheSov> im trying to figure out the bottle neck
[15:51] <TheSov> i mean, not that 400 megabytes per second is slow by any means
[15:51] <Heebie> Hmm... a load-balanced IP address across any server with a MON, handled bykeepalived/vrrp should actually work very well. :) Thanks!!!
[15:52] <mistur> TheSov: I have install my first ceph cluster this week
[15:52] <TheSov> I find FIO 75/25 tests are more accurate than DD though
[15:53] <mistur> TheSov: so I don't have so much experience yet
[15:53] <mistur> I'd like to test the s3 api now
[15:53] <mistur> but I have no idea how I can do that yet
[15:54] <mistur> I found some python script which can do that, but I'm not familiar with s3 neither python
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[15:54] <mistur> so lot's of new stuff at the same time
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[15:56] <mistur> meeting time
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[16:01] <m0zes> ksingh: it should.
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[16:02] <m0zes> ksingh: you *might* need the to copy over the various bootstrap keys, as well, though.
[16:03] <jdillaman> Heebie: can???t you specify multiple monitor addresses separated by a comma?
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[16:36] <Heebie> jdillaman: Not according to what I've seen, but I haven't tried it.
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[16:37] <Heebie> The VRRP idea doesn't appear to work. The MON only listens on a specific IP on the box, not all, and using a NAT rule in iptables to forward inbound traffic from a virtual IP doesn't seem to work.
[16:37] <m0zes> Heebie: libvirt should use the ceph.conf. in that case, under [global], you have a comma separated list of mon ips for the mon_host entry.
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[16:39] <Heebie> m0zes: Thanks. That only has 1 IP on all my nodes, and I didn't want to go futzing with it.
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[16:43] <m0zes> on my vm servers, this is their ceph.conf:
[16:43] <m0zes> [global]
[16:43] <m0zes> mon_host = 10.5.38.1,10.5.38.13,10.5.38.2,10.5.38.14,10.5.38.3
[16:43] <m0zes> that's it. they're highly available now.
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[17:01] <TheSov> m0zes, he means using libvirt
[17:02] <TheSov> which doesnt use ceph.conf it just plugs into a mon host
[17:02] <m0zes> it should use ceph.con
[17:02] <m0zes> because the rbd library reads it.
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[17:04] <TheSov> im making a step by step how to build a ceph cluster video
[17:05] <TheSov> from scratch not using any managment
[17:05] <TheSov> should be fun!
[17:06] <jdillaman> TheSov: libvirt, qemu, etc (anything that uses librbd/librados) will read your ceph.conf
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[17:06] <TheSov> correct but they seem to lock on to 1 monitor
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[17:07] <TheSov> i have been reading about issues with libvirt when changing monitor ip's
[17:07] <jdillaman> that would be a bug we should fix if true ??? should specify multiple monitors via ???mon host=<host1>,<host2>,...
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[17:08] <jdillaman> TheSov: hmm ??? where did you see that?
[17:09] <m0zes> you shouldn't be changing the ips of monitors...
[17:10] <TheSov> https://libvirt.org/storage.html
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[17:10] <TheSov> shows an xml example where you hardcode monitors and such
[17:10] <TheSov> i dont think its a ceph issue
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[17:11] <TheSov> besides I already have a functional solution using DNS
[17:11] <TheSov> the other guy in here asking about it did not
[17:11] <TheSov> Heebie,
[17:11] <m0zes> if that is truly how you configure libvirt, then libvirt needs to be taken out back...
[17:11] <TheSov> <pool type="rbd">
[17:11] <TheSov> <name>myrbdpool</name>
[17:11] <TheSov> <source>
[17:11] <TheSov> <name>rbdpool</name>
[17:11] <TheSov> <host name='1.2.3.4' port='6789'/>
[17:11] <TheSov> <host name='my.ceph.monitor' port='6789'/>
[17:11] <TheSov> <host name='third.ceph.monitor' port='6789'/>
[17:11] <TheSov> <auth username='admin' type='ceph'>
[17:11] <TheSov> <secret uuid='2ec115d7-3a88-3ceb-bc12-0ac909a6fd87'/>
[17:12] <TheSov> </auth>
[17:12] <TheSov> </source>
[17:12] <TheSov> </pool>
[17:12] <TheSov> sorry for spam
[17:12] <TheSov> it can be worked around using DNS
[17:12] <TheSov> no biggie
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[17:13] <jdillaman> TheSov: yeah, ceph docs show the same thing too: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/libvirt/#configuring-the-vm, so I can understand the confusion
[17:13] <bpkroth> are you trying to use libvirt storage pools for rbd sources?
[17:14] <bpkroth> my recollection was that that didn't work yet
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[17:14] <TheSov> I was not, im just the storage guy, our devops brought me this issue wherein if they specified the libvirt settings, and the monitor failed. the hypervisor node was essentially down
[17:15] <bpkroth> here was the response about using pools when i asked about that a while back: https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvirt-users/2015-March/msg00124.html
[17:15] <TheSov> we changed the IP to a hostname and put in round robin mode. for cephmon.cephclusterX.mydomain.com
[17:15] <TMM> TheSov, that's how we do it too
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[17:15] <TheSov> yes it seems to work just fine.
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[17:16] <TheSov> i dont even see why its a big deal to be filing bug tickets about it
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[17:18] <bpkroth> hmm, maybe i'll have to give that another shot
[17:18] <jdillaman> TheSov: i would think the host xml arguments should be optional ??? right now it overrides your ceph.conf
[17:18] <Heebie> Does anyone tend to use tools to manage ceph configurations on all the various servers involved?
[17:18] <m0zes> or, I guess it would make it work without a ceph.conf.
[17:18] <TheSov> Heebie, theres a lot of ansible scripts all over the web for ceph
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[17:19] <TheSov> jdillaman, I dont know in depth how libvirt works, like i said im the storage guy. apparently the devops guys like doing it that way
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[17:19] <TheSov> if indeed libvirt reads ceph.conf it makes no sense to specify them via xml
[17:20] <TheSov> unless of course if it reads ceph.conf it still locks to one monitor
[17:21] <nickvanw> hey #ceph -- trying to debug some weird failures when creating a rados image. Creating and listing pools works fine, but the create action seems to fail: https://gist.github.com/nickvanw/39e5bc6cfcd0f153e2b9
[17:21] <nickvanw> nb: I'm doing some weird stuff with docker and ceph, so the networking is a little crazy.
[17:21] <TheSov> apparently this was also an issue in the past for cinder "The Cinder rbd driver extracts the IP addresses of the Ceph mon servers from the Ceph mon map when the instance/volume connection is established. This info is then stored in nova's block-device-mapping table and is never re-validated down the line."
[17:22] <TheSov> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1452641
[17:22] <TheSov> apparently devs just dont get how ceph is supposed to work :D
[17:22] <TheSov> you should be able to drop any host at any moment
[17:23] <jdillaman> TheSov: thx for the background
[17:23] <TheSov> jdillaman, no problems but i didnt do anything and for all I know its been fixed
[17:24] <TheSov> we are just still doing it the dns way
[17:25] <jdillaman> that cinder issue is still open ??? being able to support dropped mons vs re-allocating mon ip addresses / host names is a different use case
[17:25] <Heebie> TheSov: I'll take a peek for that. Thanks! :)
[17:25] <jdillaman> i could have three DNS entries for three mons, specify all three in libvirt and be fine if I wanted to move mons to new IPs
[17:25] <TheSov> i understand but cinder could be easily be fixed via arp validation
[17:26] <TheSov> jdillaman, yes exactly
[17:27] <TheSov> i dont think its a bug in libvirt per se, its just that there are cases where your uses/changes arent expected and therefor not without a degree of uncertainty
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[18:03] <herrsergio> hi everybody
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[18:17] <Heebie> If I'm getting this error under "HEALTH_ERROR" does it just mean the cluster is insanely busy and needs to catch up? 5 requests are blocked > 32 sec
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[18:25] <TheSov> Heebie, pastebin your ceph-s
[18:26] <TheSov> ceph -s
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[18:35] <sasha1> Hey guys, need help: as soon as I finish installing ceph - I get this error: health HEALTH_ERR " 64 pgs stuck inactive 64 pgs stuck unclean no osds"
[18:35] <sasha1> so the error for missing osds is gone when I add the osd drives
[18:36] <sasha1> but the warning stays: HEALTH_WARN 64 pgs degraded; 64 pgs stuck degraded; 64 pgs stuck unclean; 64 pgs stuck undersized; 64 pgs undersized; too few PGs per OSD (10 < min 30)
[18:36] <sasha1> any idea how to get to HEALTH_OK
[18:37] <sasha1> ceph-0.94.5-0.el7.x86_64 on rhel7.1
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[18:40] <sasha1> TheSov: hey, any advice: http://fpaste.org/287347/46745223/
[18:40] <sasha1> TheSov: ceph-0.94.5-0.el7.x86_64 on rhel7.1
[18:41] <TheSov> dude the problem is right there
[18:41] <Heebie> TheSov: It's well gone now (I wasn't logging it.) It counted down from some number of operations blocked more than X time until there were none.
[18:41] <TheSov> too few PGs per OSD (10 < min 30)
[18:41] <TheSov> raise your pgs
[18:41] <TheSov> you have 6 osds
[18:41] <TheSov> so you want 600 pg's total
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[18:42] <TheSov> or rather you want 1024 total pg's
[18:44] <TheSov> sasha1, show me your ceph osd lspools
[18:45] <sasha1> TheSov: 0 rbd,
[18:45] <TheSov> ok so rbd has 10 pg's far too few
[18:45] <sasha1> TheSov: I got the 64 pgs issues right away
[18:45] <TheSov> so you do this
[18:45] <TheSov> yes i know
[18:45] <m0zes> just one host?
[18:45] <sasha1> I use one physical node to host the monitor and 3 osds in virt machines
[18:46] <TheSov> sasha1, no
[18:46] <TheSov> you cannot do that
[18:46] <TheSov> the default crush map wont allow it
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[18:46] <TheSov> unless you set size=0
[18:46] <TheSov> err 12
[18:46] <TheSov> 1
[18:46] <m0zes> s/0/1/
[18:46] <sasha1> m0zes: TheSov: the virt machines are accessed as remote
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[18:47] <TheSov> sasha1, your osds are all on 1 box?
[18:47] <sasha1> m0zes: TheSov: on the virt machines I have 2 additional (virtual) disks
[18:47] <m0zes> 3 osd hosts with 2 osds each?
[18:47] <TheSov> sashsa show me ceph osd tree
[18:47] <sasha1> TheSov: http://fpaste.org/287349/74566614/
[18:48] <sasha1> m0zes: ^^, yes
[18:48] <m0zes> ceph osd pool get rbd size
[18:48] <sasha1> m0zes: size: 2
[18:49] <sasha1> m0zes: my ceph.conf has "osd pool default size = 2"
[18:49] <m0zes> strange. there should be mappings for creating those pgs, then.
[18:49] <TheSov> ceph osd pool set rbd pgp_num 512 && ceph osd pool set rbd pg_num 512
[18:49] <TheSov> err reverse those
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[18:49] <TheSov> 2nd one first and first one send
[18:49] <TheSov> second
[18:50] <m0zes> I don't think you can do that until the initial pgs are created.
[18:50] <TheSov> its a blank pool
[18:50] <TheSov> it should be fine
[18:50] <sasha1> TheSov: ceph osd pool set rbd pg_num 512
[18:50] <sasha1> Error E2BIG: specified pg_num 512 is too large (creating 448 new PGs on ~6 OSDs exceeds per-OSD max of 32)
[18:50] <TheSov> eh?
[18:50] <TheSov> 32?
[18:50] <TheSov> wtf
[18:51] <TheSov> ok make it 48
[18:51] <sasha1> TheSov: what should be set to 48
[18:51] <TheSov> pg_num and pgp_num
[18:52] <sasha1> thesov Error EEXIST: specified pg_num 48 <= current 64
[18:52] <TheSov> lol do 128
[18:52] <TheSov> then do ceph -s
[18:53] <sasha1> TheSov: http://fpaste.org/287351/45982144/
[18:53] <TheSov> oddsfish
[18:54] <TheSov> u dont have quorum
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[18:55] <TheSov> ceph health detail
[18:55] <TheSov> run that
[18:55] <sasha1> TheSov: can quorum be achieved with one monitor
[18:55] <TheSov> yes i know it can
[18:55] <TheSov> i dont know why thats allowed but, that i know
[18:55] <sasha1> TheSov: http://fpaste.org/287352/46746141/
[18:56] <m0zes> yes, they've got quorum!
[18:56] <TheSov> yeah they do
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[18:56] <TheSov> ok try changing the pgnum to 256
[18:56] <TheSov> it keeps complaining about the pg numbers
[18:57] <sasha1> TheSov: yes, so now the warn is for 256 pgs
[18:57] <TheSov> show me
[18:57] <TheSov> <--- from missouri
[18:57] <TheSov> not really
[18:58] <Thunderbird> is anyone aware of documentation on how to manually setup an osd journal? The ceph manual guide doesn't explain this outside of the ceph-disk flow (can't use ceph-disk here)
[18:58] <sasha1> TheSov: http://fpaste.org/287353/46237144/
[18:59] <TheSov> sasha1, ceph disk lsit
[18:59] <TheSov> list
[18:59] <TheSov> err ceph-disk list
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[19:00] <sasha1> TheSov: that's from the monitor; http://fpaste.org/287355/44674643/
[19:00] <sasha1> TheSov: I have no vg on the monitor
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[19:01] <TheSov> no on the osd
[19:01] <TheSov> servers
[19:01] <TheSov> just 1
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[19:01] <TheSov> no need to do them all
[19:01] <m0zes> Thunderbird: that components? ceph-disk --mkjournal should do it. if you're changing journal parameters on an existing osd, you should flush it first with --flush-journal.
[19:02] <sasha1> TheSov: http://fpaste.org/287356/46746469/
[19:03] <m0zes> s/that/what/
[19:03] <TheSov> ceph pg dump_stuck unclean
[19:03] <TheSov> run that sash
[19:03] <sasha1> TheSov: http://fpaste.org/287357/46746625/
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[19:04] <TheSov> wtf its like its not even trying
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[19:04] <Thunderbird> m0zes, any info for an environment without ceph-disk? we can't use that in our environment (we have our own management tools)
[19:04] <sasha1> TheSov: I reproduce the same behavior on that setup over and over
[19:04] <Thunderbird> just trying to figure out how to automate this for our custom environment
[19:05] <sasha1> TheSov: tried to re-install things from scratch
[19:05] <TheSov> sasha1, ive seen this once before, and it worked when i added 2 more monitors
[19:05] <sasha1> TheSov: how easy is it to add more monitors
[19:05] <TheSov> very
[19:06] <TheSov> ceph-deploy mon create monitor
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[19:07] <TheSov> and you really really should ahve more than 1, even if its a test cluster
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[19:11] <TheSov> sasha1, let me know if it starts working
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[19:12] <sasha1> TheSov: I restarted ceph on the first mon and now things seem stuck
[19:12] <TheSov> stuck?
[19:12] <TheSov> or unstuck?
[19:12] <sasha1> TheSov: stuck - ceph health doesn't return prompt
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[19:13] <TheSov> it may be created pg's
[19:13] <TheSov> creating*
[19:13] <TheSov> did u add another monitor?
[19:13] <sasha1> TheSov: yes - more
[19:13] <TheSov> check health on the other one
[19:13] <sasha1> TheSov: same
[19:14] <TheSov> dude LOL wtf is up with your test cluster
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[19:14] <sasha1> TheSov: strace shows continuous loop of "select(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, {0, 4000}) = 0 (Timeout)" for ceph status
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[19:15] <sasha1> TheSov: going to rebuild it from scratch
[19:15] <sasha1> TheSov: not from scratch, just the ceph part
[19:16] <TheSov> you said this happened before?
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[19:16] <sasha1> TheSov: on the same setup - yes, I'm going to make sure the time is adjusted
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[19:46] <kmnt> I am trying to use the cephfs to store zlib compressed data thats appended in chunks to files. Reading the files back zlib complains that some of the appended chunks of compressed data have a bad adler checksum. Looking at the raw bytes I can see missing zlib headers on the bad chunks too.
[19:46] <kmnt> so far iv got like 4 bad writes out of about a hundred
[19:46] <TheSov> how many MDS servers do you have deployed?
[19:47] <kmnt> 1
[19:47] <TheSov> what version of ceph are you running
[19:47] <kmnt> and i think im on .80
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[19:47] <TheSov> cephfs was not stable on .8
[19:47] <TheSov> its technically still not stable on hammer
[19:47] <TheSov> but its mostly stable on hammer with 1 mds
[19:48] <kmnt> my cluster is probly not an ideal setup but this work load is microscopic
[19:48] <TheSov> i get it, but remember even 1 meg of data with size 3 is 3 megabytes of data
[19:49] <TheSov> with the journals on top of that the write amplification factor is alrge
[19:49] <TheSov> large
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[19:51] <kmnt> the writes are like 10kb every few sec
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[19:51] <TheSov> what type of drives are you using?
[19:52] <kmnt> dunno, its running on the smallest vms on digitalocean
[19:52] <TheSov> oh?
[19:52] <TheSov> how is your cephfs mounted?
[19:53] <TheSov> fuse?
[19:53] <kmnt> no the kernal driver i think
[19:54] <kmnt> mount -t ceph ip etc
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[19:55] <olid16> 2015-11-05 19:55:05.127304 7f69c7b6a880 0 ceph version 0.94.5 (9764da52395923e0b32908d83a9f7304401fee43), process ceph-mon, pid 19734
[19:55] <olid16> 2015-11-05 19:55:05.185030 7f69c7b6a880 10 load: jerasure load: lrc load: isa
[19:55] <olid16> 2015-11-05 19:55:05.185346 7f69c7b6a880 -1 error opening mon data directory at '/var/lib/ceph/mon/ceph-ceph5': (22) Invalid argument
[19:55] <olid16> any idea ?
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[20:15] <kmnt> is fuse more reliable than the kernal driver? searching mailing lists it seems cephfs might have afew data corrupting bugs
[20:15] <TheSov> olid
[20:16] <TheSov> olid16, did you ever change your monitor disk?
[20:16] <TheSov> like did u mount /var to a ssd?
[20:17] <TheSov> kmnt, yes i told you at .8 cephfs was most definately not stable
[20:17] <TheSov> upgrade to hammer and try it
[20:18] <kmnt> right, ill give it a shot
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[21:15] <visbits> so these are based on bonnie++ benchmarks with openstack
[21:15] <visbits> http://8.29.132.93/
[21:15] <visbits> my ceph-perf pool is 32 1tb ssd, and my ceph-cap pool is 260 6tb spindle
[21:15] <visbits> the capacity having so many osds actually outperforms the ssd in a lot of tests that you wouldnt think it could
[21:18] <TheSov> interesting
[21:18] <TheSov> but your ratio of one to the other is kind of high
[21:19] <TheSov> essentially your spinning disks internal 32meg cache is doing most of the work at 260 of them
[21:21] <TheSov> yeah you have 8 gigs of cache memory on the physical spinning media
[21:21] <TheSov> wow
[21:22] <TheSov> and its sram
[21:22] <TheSov> so its like screaming fast
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[21:33] <visbits> i added emc scaleio in ther eto
[21:33] <visbits> that cluster is 96x 1tb
[21:33] <visbits> not very impressed with their shit, the client driver sucks
[21:33] <TheSov> indeed
[21:33] <TheSov> they are limited to 2 copies
[21:33] <TheSov> and do not have fully redundant monitors
[21:33] <TheSov> they cant make it too good
[21:34] <TheSov> they would destroy their market
[21:34] <visbits> the monitor failover is annoying
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[21:34] <TheSov> before going with ceph i was evaluating scaleio and sheepdog
[21:34] <TheSov> both made me wince with their shortcomings
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[21:35] <TheSov> and now that cephfs is basically working ceph is better
[21:35] <visbits> is cephfs almost ready?
[21:35] <TheSov> now the devs just need to get multiple MDS servers operational and stable and we have a clear winner
[21:35] <TheSov> in my testing cephfs works perfectly if u have 1 MDS and no more
[21:35] <visbits> yeah the mds servers have been a *when we get to it*
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[21:36] <TheSov> I was able to take a cephfs mount -re export it with NFS and share it to many vmhosts
[21:36] <TheSov> and it worked fine
[21:36] <TheSov> no corruptions or anything
[21:36] <TheSov> when i started a second mds server it went to hell
[21:37] <TheSov> that may have been my fault admittedly
[21:37] <TheSov> i was playing a persistent file lock app while doing it
[21:37] <visbits> lol hell yea
[21:37] <visbits> thats really exciting
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[21:37] <visbits> cephfs + nfs for openstack will be amazing
[21:37] <TheSov> especially if you can built a nfs server per host
[21:37] <TheSov> err not per host
[21:38] <TheSov> but per failure domain
[21:38] <TheSov> and mount them all to the same cephfs
[21:38] <TheSov> in theory the MDS server will manage the locks
[21:38] <TheSov> so you wont get crazy shit happening
[21:38] <TheSov> but i dont know yet
[21:38] <visbits> i wouldnt store my vms on cephfs
[21:39] <visbits> vms should be block
[21:39] <TheSov> im not willing to put that to prod
[21:39] <TheSov> should be but proxmox sucks at that
[21:39] <visbits> the liberty release brought true live migration functionality with config drive to, super awesome. our production install is doing well
[21:39] <TheSov> if you use block you need to use libvirt
[21:39] <visbits> yep
[21:39] <visbits> i see us finally removing esxi from our environment in the next year or 2
[21:39] <TheSov> and if dont use libvirt
[21:39] <TheSov> if you treat it like iscsi?
[21:39] <TheSov> you have to LVM the block devidce
[21:40] <TheSov> which is stupid
[21:40] <visbits> rbd + iscsi = horrible
[21:40] <visbits> we would use ceph with vmware if that worked worth a fuck
[21:40] <TheSov> vmware was my use case
[21:40] <TheSov> we have vmware in prod now
[21:40] <visbits> i will say seeing the scaleio driver on vmware makes me wonder why the fuck ceph hasnt done that
[21:40] <lurbs> TheSov: Did you see Sage talking about Manila and CephFS? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNTCBouMaAU
[21:40] <visbits> it seems like an easy way to pickup market
[21:40] <visbits> lurbs (Y)
[21:41] <TheSov> no i didnt
[21:41] <TheSov> can you give me the crib notes?
[21:41] <TheSov> man sage really likes ganesha
[21:41] <TheSov> is it that good?
[21:42] <visbits> is the goal of openstack to just copy every service amazon does
[21:42] <TheSov> visbits, pretty much :)
[21:42] <TheSov> not really
[21:42] <visbits> my customers often ask, why not just use amazon?
[21:43] <visbits> confused why our offering is like 7/8 baked
[21:43] <TheSov> because amazon costs more money than the hardware and the hardware support
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[21:43] <visbits> haha
[21:43] <visbits> were using UCS for our openstack / ceph
[21:43] <TheSov> seriously it does
[21:43] <visbits> my storage is cisco C3260 and C200 M4 compute
[21:44] <lurbs> TheSov: TLDR is: Skip to 24:06, and look at the diagram.
[21:44] <lurbs> Er, 26:06.
[21:44] <visbits> TLDW
[21:44] <visbits> lol
[21:45] <TheSov> ahhh nice he said it, mount cephfs on host and re-export via knfsd using a vsock
[21:46] <TheSov> but hes saying it as a guests need access to cephfs
[21:46] <TheSov> im saying use cephfs to store your vm boot volumes
[21:46] <lurbs> We just put those into RBD.
[21:46] <TheSov> using libvirt
[21:46] <TheSov> ?
[21:47] <TheSov> lol i had a long talk about this earlier today
[21:47] <lurbs> Yeah. OpenStack with KVM, libvirt and Ceph.
[21:47] <TheSov> we are fixing that
[21:47] <TheSov> but it doesnt help with vmware
[21:47] <TheSov> i need it for vmware
[21:47] <visbits> GLWS
[21:47] <visbits> lol
[21:47] <lurbs> Ah. I'm sorry.
[21:47] <TheSov> GLWS?
[21:48] <TheSov> lurbs, have you been in here all day?
[21:48] <visbits> good luck with support
[21:48] <visbits> haha
[21:48] <TheSov> oh lol
[21:48] <lurbs> All day? It's not even 10am!
[21:48] <TheSov> its nfs
[21:48] <TheSov> im not woried
[21:48] <TheSov> i mean if i cant support nfs then wtf am i doing here
[21:48] <TheSov> no i mean lurbs
[21:49] <visbits> TheSov for the coolaid
[21:49] <lurbs> It was Flavor Aid. :)
[21:49] <TheSov> wtf is it with every company and wanting support for commodity shit?
[21:49] <TheSov> my company wont ditch our compellent because they have support
[21:49] <TheSov> and im like wtf
[21:50] <TheSov> dell is not going to fly someone out if your compellent breaks
[21:50] <visbits> lol compellent
[21:50] <visbits> 2005 called
[21:50] <TheSov> they will say "what is your backup software"
[21:50] <visbits> *the cloud*
[21:51] <TheSov> the whole concept of commercial storage support is a joke
[21:51] * lurbs just uses the NSA for backups, although it can be a *little* tricky to get the data back.
[21:51] <TheSov> anyone who has had an EMC system knows this
[21:51] <TheSov> FOIA requests?
[21:51] <visbits> scaleio support is a joke
[21:51] <TheSov> all of EMC's support is a joke
[21:51] <visbits> we had a 660T license.. took them 3 weeks to tell us read cache isnt supported on ssd
[21:51] <visbits> our XIO support has been great
[21:52] <TheSov> you paid for scaleio?
[21:52] <visbits> testing went well, we ordered upa license, and then returned it
[21:52] <visbits> lol
[21:52] <TheSov> ok good
[21:52] <TheSov> i was about to start cackling wildly
[21:52] <visbits> it was showing promising
[21:52] <visbits> then just went to shit and they cant figure out why now
[21:52] <visbits> so we gave up on it
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[22:57] <debian112> for client.user?
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