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IRC Log for 2015-10-27

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[0:22] <Kupo1> Any idea why when i run 'df -h' inside my rbd-backed VM i am showing 3.1gb but when i run "rbd diff compute/$instance_id_disk | awk '{ SUM += $2 } END { print SUM }'" it shows 4.02gb? is there some overhead somewhere im missing?
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[0:23] <via> okay, my earlier tier problem is apparently preventing my older kernels from being able to read cephfs
[0:23] <via> ceph will not let me remove the cache tiers i set up, claiming data is in use by cephfs, but i never even set it to be an overlay
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[1:11] <cylee> hello, I am trying to import exported pg from some OSD but it always show "Can't find OSDMap for pg epoch 0".
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[1:16] <monotreme_man> i am trying to ceph-deploy hammer on fc22, but this is failing as there only seem to be packages for fc20. any advice?
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[1:20] <monotreme_man> (it seems awfully quiet here; am i in the right place?)
[1:21] <cylee> maybe you can post question in mailing list
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[1:22] <monotreme_man> is that the normal procedure?
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[1:29] <mfa298> monotreme_man: I've not looked at the redhat/fedora world recently, but with Ubuntu only the long term releases have packages. If the same happens for redhat/fedora you mean need to use a redhat/centos release rather than fedora
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[1:31] <monotreme_man> that seems plausible, but i never said fc22 anywhere. i suspected ceph-deploy figured that out by itself.are you implying that i can't use ceph-deploy on fc22? (or fc21)
[1:32] <mfa298> possibly
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[1:32] <monotreme_man> do you like my chances that the manual installation instructions are correct?
[1:34] <mfa298> you may hit the same issue, I'd tend to want to use CentOS or RHEL for something like ceph
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[7:52] <nils_> I'm being offered 0.94.5 in apt-get upgrade
[7:53] <nils_> maybe someone should put up the release notes on the blog as well?
[7:54] <kiranos> maliinglist atleast
[7:55] <kiranos> nils_: http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2015-October/005705.html
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[10:15] <boolman> anyone tried the ceph-ansible and got the dev master branch working for vagrant ?
[10:15] <boolman> https://github.com/ceph/ceph-ansible
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[11:18] <jnq> has anyone had issues with cephfs data not actually deleting after a OS delete? i'm still having issues and no obvious errors.
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[11:34] <Be-El> jnq: deleting is a pure metadata operation. the content on the osd is deleted during processing of the mds journal
[11:35] <Be-El> jnq: and there might be files left open in processes or by locks in cephfs
[11:36] <jnq> Be-El: no idea how to go about debugging this then. Files are deleted at the OS level in the mount and the size *never* goes down. all we write there are big database dumps, it's not used much
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[11:38] <Be-El> jnq: i have a similar problem with a single object blocking the removal of a data pool
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[11:39] <Be-El> jnq: you can dump the content of the mds cache using 'ceph mds tell <mds> dumpcache'
[11:39] <jnq> ok
[11:39] <kiranos> https://ceph.com/planet/use-discard-with-krbd-client-since-kernel-3-18/
[11:39] <Be-El> jnq: it writes a cache file to the mds working directory (usually root directory)
[11:39] <kiranos> might be something to look at aswell
[11:40] <jnq> Be-El: is there a way to force it to process the cache?
[11:40] <jnq> or the mds journal
[11:40] <Be-El> jnq: you can inspect the journal with cephfs-journal-tool
[11:41] <Be-El> jnq: deleted files that are still held open by some process or some ceph-fuse locks are named 'stray<number>' in the cache and the journal
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[11:42] <Be-El> jnq: and no, i don't know any way to enforce journal processing. there's an apply options for the journal tool, but i haven't tried it yet
[11:43] <jnq> heh ok
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[11:44] <Be-El> and i'm not a developer, so expect everything to go wrong and make a backup of your data first
[11:44] <Be-El> (and if you find out a good way to hunt down stray objects please tell me, i need to get rid of one, too...)
[11:44] <liiwi> shameless plug: obnam.org :)
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[13:50] <Heebie> I just used ceph-deploy to add two more MON's. (I had one.. one is bad!) and now ceph-deploy is sitting there, presumably waiting for quorum, but nothing is happening. I didn't receive any errors about creation. Is there someplace I can look other than "ceph status" which isn't working to figure out what's going on?
[13:50] <Heebie> actually.. after ages, it came back, but it apparently only added one of the two requested MONs.
[13:54] <Heebie> I added the other one and it seems to have worked.. so ignore me. :)
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[14:11] <Heebie> I've been following this guide: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/libvirt/ << But thus far I'm unable to get a KVM VM to access an RBD volume directly on startup. (I do have them accessing CEPH once they're running alright, using tools inside the VM, just not with the RBD configured directly in virtual manager)
[14:12] <Heebie> Does anyone know of a better or more recent walkthrough of getting this working?
[14:12] <Be-El> do you have a concrete error message?
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[15:43] <Heebie> Be-El: http://paste.ie/view/289fa486
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[16:12] <Be-El> Heebie: the paste is not complete
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[16:24] <Heebie> Be-El: It is the entire error message that I receive. (and it looks exactly the same in the logs as in the dialogue box that comes up, and it's the same whether I start the VM from the UI or the CLI.)
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[16:32] <Be-El> Heebie: but the important part is missing
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[16:34] <Heebie> :/
[16:35] <Be-El> Heebie: are you sure the ceph user has the necessary permission to access the libvirt pool?
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[16:40] <Heebie> The ceph user didn't. I added the ceph user to the group, but that made no difference. I'm logging into virt-manager as root as well, rather than as the end-user.
[16:41] <debian112> any one know how to fix this: http://paste.debian.net/318363/
[16:41] <debian112> I have some pg stuck in creating
[16:43] <Heebie> I did give the user that's configured in the <disk> section of the VM configuration has access. I've tried it as client.libvirt and as libvirt and it made no difference.
[16:45] <Be-El> Heebie: i'm not talking about system users, but about ceph users
[16:46] <Be-El> Heebie: check the caps with 'ceph auth get client.libvirt'
[16:46] <Heebie> the caps?
[16:47] <Be-El> the caps (permissions within ceph)
[16:47] <Heebie> allow rwx pool=libvirt=pool << this is in the results, so it looks like that's a yes. I didn't know that about ceph permissions.
[16:48] <m0zes> ceph auth get-or-create client.libvirt mon 'allow r' osd 'allow class-read object_prefix rbd_children, allow rwx pool=libvirt-pool'
[16:48] <Be-El> the user need at least 'caps mon = "allow r"' and 'caps osd = "allow class-read object_prefix rbd_children, allow rwx pool=<your pool>'
[16:48] <m0zes> libvirt=pool?
[16:48] <m0zes> the cap parsing doesn't catch errors in your syntax, so make sure you get it right.
[16:49] <m0zes> at least in my experience.
[16:49] <Heebie> Wholly m0zes! That's a fat-finger if I've ever seen... but not seen... one!! =O
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[16:54] <debian112> how do you handle a cluster that is stuck in creating pg's?
[16:56] <Heebie> Now the caps for osd are this: caps: [osd] allow class-read object_prefix rbd_children, allow rwx pool=libvirt-pool but it's not changed the behavior. Do I have to do some kind of flush afterwards?
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[16:58] <Heebie> part of the error is about this file: /dev/shm/lttng-ust-wait-5 That hasn't been modified/removed since the 22nd... which is when I first started having this issue.
[16:58] <Heebie> debian112: How long has it been stuck? My teeny-tiny 4-OSD cluster took a good 10-15 minutes to finish completing it's PG creation initially.
[16:59] <debian112> about 45 mins
[17:00] <Be-El> Heebie: the messages about lttng can be ignored
[17:00] <Be-El> Heebie: you can check the key caps by using it on the command line, e.g. 'rbd -p libvirt-pool --id libvirt ls'
[17:01] <Be-El> Heebie: you need to place the key in a keyring file in /etc/ceph called client.libvirt.keyring
[17:01] <debian112> the pgs are not coming down, so I think something is wrong
[17:01] <Be-El> or specify another location with --keyring
[17:03] <Heebie> Be-El: That doesn't seem to be in the walkthrough... and that's in-line with this error message from trying the command you gave above: http://paste.ie/view/9676a1ce
[17:04] <m0zes> debian112: I think you can query the state, and it might give you more information about what it is attempting to do. ceph pg 0.7f query
[17:04] <debian112> ceph pg 0.7f query
[17:04] <debian112> Error ENOENT: i don't have pgid 0.7
[17:05] <debian112> the cluster was unhealthy when the pg's were increased
[17:05] <Be-El> Heebie: you need to either put the keyring in the default location or specify a keyring file
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[17:05] <debian112> so I don't think it even got a chance to actually create it
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[17:07] <Heebie> I copied the keyring to /etc/ceph/ceph.client.libvirt.key, but it made no difference.
[17:07] <m0zes> so, ceph pg send_pg_creates
[17:07] <m0zes> maybe?
[17:09] <Heebie> Be-El: interestingly.. if I manually tell it what keyfile to use, that command seems to work, but putting it in the default location.. I must be missing something. (/etc/ceph/ceph.client.<clientname>.key appears to be the right naming scheme & location?)
[17:09] <debian112> m0zes: nothing yet
[17:09] <Heebie> OOH.. it ends in keyRING. :/
[17:09] <debian112> I tried running that
[17:10] <m0zes> I've not had any issues with pg creation, especially ones where most of them got created correctly.
[17:11] <m0zes> have you tried ceph pg force_create_pg 0.7f
[17:11] <Be-El> Heebie: keyring instead of key
[17:11] <debian112> m0zes, yeah it returns: pg 0.7f already creating
[17:12] <debian112> which makes sense, since it's in a create state
[17:12] <m0zes> debian112: ceph health detail, and restart the osds it is creating on?
[17:13] <debian112> m0zes: http://paste.debian.net/318370/
[17:13] <debian112> yeah, I tried restarting all the osd's
[17:13] <m0zes> oh, more than just those two pgs are not creating.
[17:13] <debian112> yup, about 64
[17:14] <Heebie> Be-El: Now the manual command works without specifying the keyring file, but libvirt still gets the same error on startup.
[17:14] <m0zes> ceph osd pool ls detail
[17:14] <Be-El> Heebie: libvirt needs the key to be stored as internal secret
[17:15] <debian112> http://paste.debian.net/318371/
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[17:16] <zoe19> Hi, I'm new and I would like to contribute, can someone get me started? This is in reference to Outreachy.
[17:17] <m0zes> debian112: I'm at a loss.
[17:17] <Heebie> Be-El: That part said it went OK. I guess I'll have to dump it and try that part of the walkthrough again.
[17:18] <debian112> dang: ok thanks m0zes
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[17:23] <Be-El> debian112: you can try to setu pgp num to correspond to pg num
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[17:23] <m0zes> I wouldn't
[17:24] <debian112> Be-EI: it fails
[17:24] <debian112> Error EBUSY: currently creating pgs, wait
[17:24] <debian112> it won't let you anyhow
[17:25] <Be-El> debian112: sorry, i've got no clue. di d you have a look at the osd logs of the affected osds?
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[17:29] <debian112> yeah, I did, nothing very useful
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[17:39] <Heebie> Be-El: I redid the section on creating the secret, and now it's working! Woohoo! Thanks. :)
[17:39] <Be-El> you're welcome
[17:41] <Be-El> well, time to call it a day
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[18:00] <guerby> http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2015-October/005724.html
[18:00] <guerby> any help welcomed ...
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[18:59] <itwasntandy> hmm, so I note from the FAQ, that running Ceph clients within the CephCluster can result in a deadlock. From that perspective, is the RadosGW considered a client? - and for small, non performance-critical deployments, is it reasonable to have RadosGW nodes also running OSDs?
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[19:15] <erhudy> itwasntandy: we run radosgw on every OSD node and have done so forever without an issue
[19:15] <itwasntandy> ok, so the warning just applies to CephFS/RBD then?
[19:15] <itwasntandy> thanks
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[19:17] <erhudy> we run converged openstack nodes where the compute nodes also have storage OSDs on them, and have never had deadlock issues
[19:17] <erhudy> we don't do cephfs
[19:17] <erhudy> just RBD and radosgw
[19:20] <itwasntandy> not using it for openstack, just for an s3 compatible API for object storage when on premise... and have some small sites coming up, where we need to minimize footprint
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[19:29] <zenpac1> Has anyone tried the calamari-on-monitor version for calamari?
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[20:14] <debian112> checking again here: how do you handle a cluster that is stuck in creating pg's?
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[20:19] <itwasntandy> debian112: hmm. to test a theory, you could try reducing the min_size for the affect pools to 1: `sudo ceph -s osd pool set <poolname> min_size 1`
[20:19] <itwasntandy> if that results in them creating successfully
[20:20] <itwasntandy> then maybe there's a crushmap issue, causing it not to balance properly. ( I saw something similar a while back)
[20:20] <itwasntandy> so of course change min_size back to an appropriate number after testing the above.
[20:21] <debian112> itwasntandy: I tried reducing and nothing
[20:22] <itwasntandy> hmm, and `sudo ceph osd crush tree` looks healthy - can you paste the output into a gist or similar?
[20:22] <debian112> I tried extending pgs when the cluster was not healthy, and that how it got like this. The pool still works but will be unreliable
[20:23] <debian112> http://paste.debian.net/318406/
[20:24] <itwasntandy> hmm, all your disks on 1 host?
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[20:24] <debian112> yes
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[20:26] <Aeso_> debian112, can you show your crushmap?
[20:26] <debian112> here you go: http://paste.debian.net/318407/
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[20:40] <debian112> Aeso_ here are the pgs: http://paste.debian.net/318370
[20:41] <itwasntandy> and `ceph -s` shows the OSDs up and running?
[20:41] <debian112> All, its a new cluster, I could wipe it, but I am trying to find a solution because this can likely happen to anyone after their cluster is already live with many Tera-bytes in it
[20:42] <itwasntandy> yeh for sure
[20:43] <debian112> http://paste.debian.net/318414/
[20:44] <itwasntandy> oh hrm, its due to pgp_num being less than pg_number ?
[20:44] <itwasntandy> is it?
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[20:45] <itwasntandy> try `sudo ceph osd pool set rbd pgp_num 128` ?
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[20:45] <itwasntandy> pgp_num needs to be equal to pg_num I believe
[20:46] <debian112> yeah, but pg is still stuck in creating so that fails
[20:46] <debian112> ceph osd pool set rbd pgp_num 128
[20:46] <m0zes> pgp_number can't be increased until the pgs have left the creating state
[20:46] <debian112> Error EBUSY: currently creating pgs, wait
[20:46] <itwasntandy> oh
[20:46] <brad[]> Hi all, in a cluster of 3 hosts, is it possible to move an OSD from each host, into a new host, without having to fail/reintroduce it?
[20:46] <georgem1> erhudy: how do you configure your clients to point to radosgw running on the OSD nodes? do you still have a LB in front?
[20:47] <m0zes> brad[]: it should be, as long as the journal is local to the osd.
[20:47] <erhudy> haproxy in front of rgw right now
[20:48] <georgem1> ok, so your bottleneck is haproxy..
[20:48] <brad[]> m0zes: Hah, and here I was regretting that decision.
[20:48] <m0zes> brad[]: you should just need to plug it in start the new host. the udev rules should find them mount them and start the service. if you've done some custom crush tree layouts, you might need to move them.
[20:48] <m0zes> in the crush tree
[20:48] <brad[]> m0zes: So essentially, I'd just need /etc/ceph on the new host and the filesystems mounted?
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[20:49] <brad[]> My crushmap is not modified
[20:49] <m0zes> possibly the bootstrap key on the new host.
[20:49] <brad[]> That's impressive.
[20:50] <m0zes> it will probably trigger some migration, but should be fairly painless. I've not done it, but I know people have.
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[21:22] <magicrobotmonkey> good news, everyone!
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[21:23] <magicrobotmonkey> I was able to recover a bunch of pgs stuck in active+remapped by setting all the weights back to 1
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[21:32] <chutz> is there a reason why src/test is not included in source tarballs?
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[22:00] <debian112> I am not sure what to do, so I guess I will do a pool migration
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[22:24] <Gorazd> what's the status with ceph (rbd) multi site/geo replication?
[22:25] <Gorazd> is there still something like drbd needed?
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[23:13] <mech422> Hi! I'm having a sort of wierd error with ceph and openstack..
[23:13] <mech422> I can create VMs thru the horizon interface and everything is fine
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[23:14] <mech422> but if I start a heat stack (with 2 volumes created in it), it creates the first volume, then hangs forever on 'creating' for the second volume
[23:14] <mech422> has anyone encountered anything similiar ?
[23:15] <mech422> (btw - I'm aware of bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1446682 and have upgraded to the latest hammer packages, and even tried manually applying the patch in that bug report)
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[23:18] <hemebond> Why can't I make Ceph quieter in the logs? I've already set "rgw enable ops log", etc, to false. Debug logging is all 0.
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