#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-08-20

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[2:05] <Thunderbird> I'm trying to set up a proof-of-concept ceph environment. got a monitor up now, but having some trouble with an OSD node, constantly getting:
[2:05] <Thunderbird> [ceph-osd][WARNIN] 2015-09-19 17:03:19.614649 7f4cbfd77700 0 -- :/1013331 >> 10.128.7.201:6789/0 pipe(0x7f4cb4000c00 sd=5 :0 s=1 pgs=0 cs=0 l=1 c=0x7f4cb4007060).fault
[2:06] <Thunderbird> this is when I do a 'ceph-deploy osd activate' to my osd-node
[2:09] <Nats_> it seems to be saying your osd cannot communicate with the monitor
[2:10] <lurbs> Is 10.128.7.201:6789 reachable from the machine running the OSD?
[2:10] <lurbs> Is that even the correct address for the monitor?
[2:10] <Thunderbird> I think so, let me try one more time
[2:10] <Thunderbird> it is the monitor address
[2:12] <Thunderbird> hm, thought I checked it earlier with telnet, but can't reach it from the OSD; guess I was on the monitor by accident
[2:17] <Thunderbird> the osd host can now telnet, just going to try again
[2:18] <Thunderbird> one other thing I'm noticing is that I'm getting a lot of HostNotFound exceptions during ceph-deploy; I have no issues pinging the relevant host by ip / hostname and the network appears to be stable
[2:18] <Thunderbird> it just likes to time out on port 22 connections (22), every other time or something it is fine
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[7:00] <znoodl> Hello!
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[7:01] <znoodl> ???
[7:01] <znoodl> ?
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[7:25] <tnt> Hi ! I'm having a bit of an issue, I've got a couple of failed HDD and the recovery was not ocmplete. I have some PGs stucks in undersized+degraded ...
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[7:32] <doppelgrau> tnt: can you put the output of ceph -s and ceph osd tree and ceph health detail online?
[7:32] <doppelgrau> tnt: that might help the others
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[7:38] <tnt> http://pastebin.com/46BiPMsu
[7:38] <tnt> There you go.
[7:38] <tnt> osd.0 failed yesterday and recovered without trouble.
[7:38] <tnt> osd.10 failed last night and didn't fully recover, it got stuck ...
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[7:50] <doppelgrau> is ceph health detail showing hints?
[7:51] <doppelgrau> tnt: and special crush rules and/or high size-parameter?
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[7:53] <tnt> doppelgrau: http://pastebin.com/UgFhFf0f It tells me what PGs are degraded but that's is.
[7:53] <tnt> doppelgrau: They're all in pool 3 which is confined to the 'sas' rack and have a size-3
[7:54] <doppelgrau> tnt: I???d try removing the failed OSDs from the crush-map
[7:56] <doppelgrau> tnt: especially if not with the newest ceph options I???ve heard that the mapping can fail in smaller clusters
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[7:59] <tnt> Is there any way to dump the current options and compare with the newer ones ?
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[8:14] <doppelgrau> tnt: http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/crush-map/#tunables
[8:19] <bearkitten> hi, trying to repair 4 active+clean+inconsistent pg but I am not able to fix them , i have tried looking at the log and removing the pg folder and restarting the osd and still no luck. any ideas how I can fix these?
[8:20] <tnt> doppelgrau: ah yeah, now I remember ... can't use CRUSH_TUNABLES3 because some RBD clients are 3.14.x kernel ...
[8:21] <doppelgrau> bearkitten: http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2015/04/27/ceph-manually-repair-object/
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[8:21] <bearkitten> doppelgrau: yup followed that to the dot
[8:21] <bearkitten> problem is i am unable to repair those pg
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[8:22] <bearkitten> i guess i can try and remove them from the other osd's
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[8:23] <doppelgrau> bearkitten: you have to remove the PG on the faulty OSD, else the problem persists
[8:23] <bearkitten> well yeah i only had two unfortunetly
[8:23] <bearkitten> both are up
[8:23] <bearkitten> and find
[8:23] <bearkitten> fine*
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[8:26] <bearkitten> doppelgrau: i have a $pg_num_head and $pg_num_TEMP dir i remove from the _head one right
[8:26] <bearkitten> and leave te _TEMP alone
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[8:57] <animalmother> I'm confused... can ceph objects themselves be used as key value stores (as opposed to simple binary blobs)?
[9:03] <doppelgrau> animalmother: I???m not so in the raddos details, but I think ???OMAP???-Objects might be what you???re looking for
[9:03] <doppelgrau> they have some index-Properties IIRC
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[9:10] <animalmother> yeah it seems that way -- in the rados man page there are commands for manipulating omaps. however, if i 'setomapval' on a certain object and I 'get' that object I get nothing back
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[9:11] <animalmother> which makes no sense.... it's as if the omaps were xattrs
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[9:30] <tnt> doppelgrau: I just simulated removing the OSDs entirely from CRUSH. this would indeed fix the issue, but this also would cause quite a significant data movement.
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[9:33] <tnt> Setting chooseleaf_vary_r to 4 would be better and solve the issue too, but it would break my clients, so not really an option.
[9:33] <zw> Hi
[9:33] <doppelgrau> tnt: is fixing the drives an option?
[9:34] <tnt> doppelgrau: yeah that's the plan ... waiting for the replacements now.
[9:34] <zw> I have a small capacity planning question. When starting a new cluster, assuming that we will keep 3 replicas, all diskspace needs to be multiplied with 3
[9:35] <zw> After that, when adding more capacity we also need to add everything multiplied by 3 then ?
[9:35] <tnt> doppelgrau: but I'm leaving in vacation tomorrow :p So either it gets there in time, or I have to pray that not another drive fails while I'm gone.
[9:36] <tnt> zw: yes
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[9:36] <tnt> doppelgrau: anyway, thanks for the help !
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[9:38] <doppelgrau> zw: in reality use 4 as the factor of ???used space??? to available space, since you do not want OSDs to fill up 100%
[9:38] <zw> doppelgrau: ah, thanks for the tip
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[9:38] <doppelgrau> zw: but with rbd you have thin provissioning, so only used space is needed four times, not the assigned space
[9:39] <doppelgrau> zw: or the other way: you can use 1/4th of the OSD-Disk-Capacity, but you do not need to add n Servers at the same time
[9:40] <tnt> Mmm, changing choose_total_tries to 100 seems like it would fix the issue as well.
[9:40] <zw> Ok thanks
[9:40] <zw> The only thing that is not really clear is the placement groups and how I should calculate/scale those
[9:40] <zw> But the docs will help me on that one :)
[9:41] <doppelgrau> zw: even better: http://ceph.com/pgcalc/
[9:43] <tnt> doppelgrau: oooh, that tools looks great, I wish I had it when I installed the cluster back on argonaut :p
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[10:01] <serg> hello to everyone. did anyone create some monitoring by python script? i mean to make connect to ceph and run something like "ceph -s" to print somewhere else with script
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[10:38] <T1w> what is the "recommended" (if it can be called so..) amount of IOPS for an journal SSD?
[10:38] <T1w> or.. recommended minimum
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[10:43] <darkfader> T1w: look for the steady state iops of intel dc s3700,
[10:43] <darkfader> anything slower will give you increased amount of headaches
[10:44] <T1w> darkfader: I'm looking at Sebastians blog (http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2014/10/10/ceph-how-to-test-if-your-ssd-is-suitable-as-a-journal-device/ ) where the a lot of numbers are listed
[10:44] <T1w> but there it not a "keep it above this number" recommendation
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[10:44] <darkfader> most of the ssds in that list are, well, dirt?
[10:44] <T1w> is 10MB/s enough (~2500IOPS) or is 20MB/s enough or..
[10:45] <T1w> yeah, I know
[10:45] <darkfader> ok, then just don't look at the consumer models on the list
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[10:45] <T1w> and I'm writing up a recommendation for us to drop our previous selection of samsung 840/850 Pro in favor if intel s3700
[10:46] <darkfader> at least the 840s
[10:46] <darkfader> 850pro is somewhat tougher
[10:46] <T1w> but Id' still like to know if I should opt for 200GB Intel S3700 or the 100GB version - Sebastians chart gives very different numbers
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[10:46] <darkfader> ah, ok
[10:47] <T1w> well.. I'm not going to stick 2 850s in the same raid 1 for OS and journal
[10:47] <T1w> they'd be worn out at the same time
[10:47] <doppelgrau> T1w: might do some math: IO/s should be higher that the maximum the disks can deliver + some for peaks + some for joint writes
[10:48] <T1w> disks = the OSD disks?
[10:48] <doppelgrau> T1w: so I would calculate with 200-250 IO/s per disk if I use an SSD as journal
[10:48] <doppelgrau> disk = platter/HDD
[10:48] <T1w> yeah, but the disk for where the OSD stores its data?
[10:49] <doppelgrau> yes
[10:49] <T1w> okay, good
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[10:49] <T1w> well.. then a few thousand IOPS should do for me
[10:50] <T1w> 1 box have 2 OSDs each with 1 4TB disk
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[10:51] <doppelgrau> T1w: on the ???long run??? all IO from the journal has to be persisted on the disks, so at some point more IO/s only helps if you have very bursty workloads
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[10:52] <T1w> doppelgrau: right, thanks for that pointer
[10:52] <T1w> we're looking at a steady usage
[10:52] <T1w> only during recovery we'll be doing any peaks
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[10:54] <T1w> seems like I'm more or less home free with a 100GB S3700
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[11:03] <T1w> has anyone looked at Intel S3710 yet?
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[11:25] <tnt> Is there any way to manually map a PG to an OSD temporarely ?
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[17:52] <bendsu> i tried to increase pg_num and pgp_num on a cache pool. going from 512 to 1024 with 15 OSD became 512/15~= 34 new PGs per OSD which was greater than the default mon_osd_max_split_count of 32. so no new PGs were made. but being a cache pool, i had to invoke --yes-i-really-mean-it to ack the warning about 'splits in cache pools must be followed by scrubs and leave sufficient free space to avoid overfilling' warning. so pool is set to 1024 pg but there are only
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[17:53] <bendsu> i have change the mon_osd_max_split_count setting on my monitors to 50 and used ceph osd pool set to increment pg and pgp num by 1. but this doesn't trigger creation of new placement groups either.
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[17:56] <bendsu> i think the tools fail to properly throttle creation of placement groups when the pool in question is a cache pool. and i'm looking for a means to kick the cluster into actually going ahead and making *any* new placement groups on the pool.
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[17:59] <bearkitten> hi, trying to repair 4 active+clean+inconsistent pg but I am not able to fix them , i have tried looking at the log and removing the pg folder and restarting the osd and still no luck. any ideas how I can fix these?
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[17:59] <bendsu> run 'ceph health detail' to find the pgs having trouble. then for each run ceph pg repair <placement group id>
[17:59] <bearkitten> http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2015/04/27/ceph-manually-repair-object/ following this
[18:00] <bearkitten> bendsu: that does not work
[18:00] <bearkitten> bendsu: tried the above link as well
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[18:01] <bearkitten> is there a way to increase the copies of a pg manually
[18:02] <bearkitten> it seems that the ones that are failing inconsistance only have 2 osd's
[18:03] <bendsu> that should just be based on your pool size of 2
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[18:10] <bearkitten> well yeah thats the thing
[18:11] <bearkitten> pool size is 3
[18:14] <bendsu> weird. what are your OSD sets for one of your inconsistent PGs ? from the top of 'ceph pg <pgid> query'
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[18:18] <bearkitten> sec
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[18:23] <bearkitten> bendsu: here is the one i used sebastien's link to fix but its still not replicated to 3 osd's and if i restart the osd it goes back to inconsistent.https://bpaste.net/show/c2087d55bf15
[18:24] <bearkitten> bendsu: http://pastebin.com/FBWqYxum here is one of the other inconsistent ones
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[19:24] <TheSov2> does anyone know of a good way to attach ceph to vmware
[19:24] <TheSov2> i am aware of nfs, im asking if there is another way :0
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[19:26] <Thunderbird> you can probably pass in a block device
[19:27] <TheSov2> well, i wanted to go iscsi but its limited 1 connection as active passive, at least with nfs 4.0 i can do multipath
[19:28] <Thunderbird> or replace vmware with a sane open solution ;) (kvm, xen, ..)
[19:30] <rkeene> I was planning on using iSCSI with RBDs
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[20:23] <spin> after reading a lot of ceph docs, one key question about how to design a ceph cluster with dedicated SSD journal devices remains:
[20:24] <spin> while the loss of a backing HDD (OSD) is clearly simple to recover from, how critical is the loss of a journal device?
[20:24] <rkeene> The loss of a journal device is the same as the loss of the OSD that journal provides
[20:25] <spin> ok, let me add some more detail:
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[20:25] <spin> the loss of a OSD is uncritical, since there is one or more OSD having copies of the same data.
[20:26] <spin> now when a ceph 'client' e.g. a virtual machine usb rbd as storage issues a write, this write eventually ends up on multiple OSDs
[20:27] <spin> before arriving at the OSDs, though, that data ends up on the journal device.
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[20:27] <spin> Does it also end up on multiple journal devices, e.g. on each one that backs the corresponding OSD?
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[20:28] <olid1987> every osd has a journal
[20:28] <olid1987> and this journal is the journal of the data on this osd
[20:29] <olid1987> means, if your data are on the osd, they are on the journal of the osd
[20:29] <olid1987> so if you loose the journal of another osd
[20:29] <olid1987> its like you lost the komplete osd
[20:29] <georgem> spin: apparently you can recover the data from the backing osds when the ssd-based journal is lost: http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2014/11/27/ceph-recover-osds-after-ssd-journal-failure/
[20:29] <spin> or to put this in a different way: does a rbd 'client' send a write to all the ceph nodes, where it should end up, or does it send a write e.g. to ceph node A, who then sends a copy of that data over to ceph node X?
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[20:30] <georgem> spin: all writes go to the OSD holding the primary copy of the PG; from there it gets synced to second and maybe third OSD before sending the confirmation to the client
[20:32] <spin> so you say the write goes to one journal/OSD only, and then gets sync from that ceph node to the others that should have a copy?
[20:32] <georgem> http://thenewstack.io/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/32.png
[20:32] <georgem> yes
[20:33] <spin> doesn't that mean, that in the case of failure of that primary OSD, there is a kind of race-condition, where a write might not have been copied to other OSDs yet?
[20:33] <spin> georgem: thx! that was exactly what I was looking for. Sadly it seems to confirm my fears...
[20:33] <georgem> http://ceph.com/docs/master/architecture/
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[20:35] <georgem> spin: the clients ack is only sent back when there are N replica stored on journals; the journals being non-ephemeral storage media (not memory)
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[20:36] <spin> georgem: oh, great! that would 'fix' my assumed issue and make me sleep better. is this behaviour documented somewhere too?
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[20:37] <georgem> spin: "The client writes the object to the identified placement group in the primary OSD. Then, the primary OSD with its own copy of the CRUSH map identifies the secondary and tertiary OSDs for replication purposes, and replicates the object to the appropriate placement groups in the secondary and tertiary OSDs (as many OSDs as additional replicas), and responds to the client once it has confirmed the object was stored successfully." (http://ceph.com/docs/mast
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[20:39] <spin> georgem: your URL seems to have been cut short
[20:40] <georgem> nope: it's a long page,you have to read through it
[20:40] <spin> georgem: I only get a 404 for the link you sent: http://ceph.com/docs/mast
[20:41] <georgem> (http://ceph.com/docs/master/architecture/)
[20:41] <spin> georgem: ok, great! thanks!!
[20:42] <georgem> welcom
[20:42] <Aeso> ceph repair
[20:42] <Aeso> Whoops, wrong window.
[20:42] <spin> ok, and now for something completely different:
[20:44] <spin> we currently have a semi-production system using Proxmox PVE and ceph on the same nodes. Within the last month it happened twice, that an ceph-osd process crashed (without any hardware issues involved).
[20:44] <rkeene> spin, ceph-osd will exit for many reasons, FWIW
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[20:44] <rkeene> Like if the load on the box gets too high, ceph-osd will exit
[20:45] <spin> why would it exit then? do you mean an out-of-memory condition or something?
[20:46] <spin> famous last words in the log were: "common/Mutex.cc: 93: FAILED assert(r == 0)"
[20:46] <spin> this is ceph version 0.80.10
[20:48] <spin> do you think this assert() failure could be a bug? if so, would you recommend to report it, or is nobody using ceph 0.80.10 anyways?
[20:49] <olid1987> you should use something a bit more recent maybe, they are now at 94.4
[20:50] <olid1987> using the sock proxmox might be not a perfect idea ( to be sure that you dont run into known bugs )
[20:50] <Aeso> So I'm testing the waters with Ceph right now, and I'm having an issue where all of my pgs are in the active+undersized+degraded state, and only look to exist on one osd (instead of the intended 2)
[20:50] <spin> yeah, that's what I feared.
[20:50] <Aeso> repairing the pg seems to do nothing. I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to resolve this
[20:50] <spin> luckily, this is just a temporary solution we are running now, because we had to move from one server room to another.
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[20:51] <spin> the new setup will have dedicated ceph storage nodes independent of the proxmox nodes running the VMs. Then we'll have the freedom to use whatever recent ceph version we want, and not the one proxmox supplies.
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[20:53] <Aeso> also osd logs don't seem to show any errors
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[20:58] <spin> FYI: on http://ceph.com/resources/mailing-list-irc/ there is a link to an archive of this IRC channel: http://irclogs.ceph.widodh.nl/ . However this website doesn't seem to be up. So in case anybody else has asked the same stuff as I just did, I couldn't access the channel archives...
[20:59] <spin> Thanks again for the very helpful information, everybody!
[20:59] <georgem> http://irclogs.ceph.widodh.nl/ works for me
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[21:00] <georgem> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://irclogs.ceph.widodh.nl
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[21:04] <spin> weird. doesn't seem to work via my internet provider, but looks ok when I connect via a jump host at a different provider. maybe my providers BGP is on coffee break...
[21:04] <spin> sry for the false alarm.
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[21:40] <Aeso> Ceph doesn't appear to be replicating PGs to other OSDs. It just leaves the PGs in active+undersized+degraded. Any ideas?
[21:45] <Aeso> The logs don't show any errors, it looks like it's not even trying to replicate to the other OSD.
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[21:58] <snakamoto> is the Ceph v.0.94.1.7 package available anywhere?
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[21:59] <ktdreyer> snakamoto: it's not something we publish to ceph.com
[22:00] <ktdreyer> snakamoto: it's in jenkins.ceph.com if you *really* want it :)
[22:00] <ktdreyer> but you probably want 0.94.2
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[22:01] <snakamoto> I would prefer 0.94.2, but will it get a patch for http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/11586 soon?
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[22:02] <ktdreyer> snakamoto: so, the cause there is actually issue 12465
[22:02] <kraken> ktdreyer might be talking about http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/12465 [Log::reopen_log_file() must take the flusher lock to avoid closing an fd ::_flush() is still using]
[22:02] <ktdreyer> snakamoto: which has apparently been backported to hammer, in issue 12520
[22:02] <kraken> ktdreyer might be talking about http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/12520 [Log::reopen_log_file() must take the flusher lock to avoid closing an fd ::_flush() is still using]
[22:02] <ktdreyer> it'll be in v0.94.3
[22:03] <ktdreyer> I thought v0.94.3 was getting "rushed" out to fix this one :)
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[22:04] <snakamoto> ahh that's good news =D
[22:04] <ktdreyer> yeah, loicd is the one to ask about v0.94.3 shipping
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[22:05] <ktdreyer> snakamoto: just curious, were you seeing SIGHUPs corrupting your data?
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[22:07] <snakamoto> ktdreyer: no, I only have a small VM test environment running with 0.94.2 right now
[22:08] <snakamoto> zero load. We are getting close to spinning up a 64 OSD node, 896 spinning disk cluster though
[22:08] <ktdreyer> ok, cool
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[22:09] <snakamoto> thank you for the info, ktydreyer and kraken!
[22:10] <ktdreyer> thanks kraken
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[22:13] <Thunderbird> I'm trying to set up a test ceph environment using ceph-deploy and at some stage made misstakes
[22:14] <Thunderbird> the guide says to do a purge to remove ceph across the nodes if you want to start from scratch, which I did, but 'ceph status' keeps reporting old data which is not correct
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[22:15] <Thunderbird> where is ceph storing old metadata? I would have expected 'ceph-deploy purgedata' to have gotten rid of everything
[22:16] <loicd> ktdreyer: http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/11990#QE-Validation-started-8615 is the current state of v0.94.3
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[22:18] <ktdreyer> thanks loicd
[22:19] <loicd> from there either Yuri finds a blocker and an additional backport will be needed. Or he finds no blocker and it will be published.
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[22:27] <ktdreyer> ok great
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[22:45] <Aeso> So removing a pool requests the pool name twice followed by the confirmation, except that adding the repeat pool name throws an invalid command.
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[22:55] <snakamoto> Aeso: I've never run into that issue before
[22:55] <snakamoto> Can you put it in pastebin?
[22:56] <Aeso> Sure, one sec
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[22:57] <Aeso> snakamoto, http://pastebin.com/waTQqJEj
[22:58] <Aeso> Ceph 0.94.2 currently
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[23:02] <Aeso> Damnit, I spotted it.
[23:03] <Aeso> Someday I'll learn to read better, heh.
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