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IRC Log for 2015-08-18

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[1:06] <olid1982> hi @ all, anyone present who has time and pleasure to answer some questions ? :)
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[1:45] <TheSov> olid1982, ill try
[1:45] <TheSov> shoot
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[1:52] <olid1982> hi thesov :) thank you
[1:52] <TheSov> olid1982, hello
[1:52] <olid1982> i just found the maillist archiv =)
[1:52] <olid1982> currently i am testing ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit and hammer
[1:52] <olid1982> can it be that i can not give multiple osd's the same hdd for journaling ?
[1:53] <olid1982> means:
[1:53] <olid1982> ceph-deploy osd activate ceph1:/dev/sdb1:/dev/sde1 ceph1:/dev/sdc1:/dev/sde1
[1:54] <olid1982> so sde1 is always the journaling disk
[1:54] <olid1982> but it seems, thats not possible, i have to make it sde1/2/3/4...
[1:54] <olid1982> for every of this osd's
[1:54] <olid1982> right ? :)
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[1:55] <Nats_> right
[1:55] <Nats_> you need a separate partition for each
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[1:57] <olid1982> and is it really true, that i have to create in /etc/fstab the mountpoints manually ?
[1:58] <olid1982> when i reboot a node, ceph osd tree shows the osd's are up but in truth they are not even mounted ( automatically )
[1:58] <olid1982> so is there a more elegant way but to insert in fstab something like:
[1:58] <olid1982> ?
[2:01] <Nats_> no, its not true
[2:01] <Nats_> well on most distros
[2:02] <Nats_> you will have a udev file that does the activation for you
[2:02] <olid1982> i read about that, i wonder why my ubuntu 14.04 LTS does not do it
[2:02] <olid1982> its fresh plain install only with sshd enabled
[2:03] <Nats_> eg on my ubuntu servers its /lib/udev/rules.d/95-ceph-osd.rules
[2:03] <Nats_> perhaps your disks are not GPT ? i believe it reqires it
[2:04] <Nats_> if you're partitioning manually, you'll want to use parted and not fdisk
[2:04] <olid1982> no no i am using parted no worry, i am not >that< evil new ^^
[2:05] <olid1982> # activate ceph-tagged partitions
[2:05] <olid1982> ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="block", \
[2:05] <olid1982> ENV{DEVTYPE}=="partition", \
[2:05] <olid1982> ENV{ID_PART_ENTRY_TYPE}=="4fbd7e29-9d25-41b8-afd0-062c0ceff05d", \
[2:05] <olid1982> RUN+="/usr/sbin/ceph-disk-activate /dev/$name"
[2:05] <olid1982> hmm maybe its not ceph-tagged
[2:05] <Nats_> perhaps the 'part type' is missing from your disks somehow then, since thats how it activates
[2:05] <olid1982> ahh
[2:05] <Nats_> i've only got experience with colocated data+journal
[2:05] <Nats_> where you go ceph-deploy osd activate ceph1:/dev/sdb , and it does the partitioning for you
[2:06] <Nats_> i would guess from what you're saying, that if you partition yourself you're expected to also set the partition type
[2:06] <olid1982> maybe it got screwed up since i am using /dev/sdb1 ( created by parted )
[2:06] <olid1982> and then prepare / activate from ceph-deploy
[2:06] <olid1982> let me check that
[2:07] <olid1982> GNU Parted 2.3
[2:07] <olid1982> Using /dev/sdb
[2:07] <olid1982> Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
[2:07] <olid1982> (parted) print
[2:07] <olid1982> Model: ATA HGST HDN726060AL (scsi)
[2:07] <olid1982> Disk /dev/sdb: 6001GB
[2:07] <olid1982> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
[2:07] <olid1982> Partition Table: gpt
[2:07] <olid1982> Number Start End Size File system Name Flags
[2:07] <olid1982> looks good i think
[2:07] <olid1982> now i give it ceph-deploy
[2:09] <olid1982> ceph-deploy osd create ceph1:/dev/sdb:/dev/sde1
[2:09] <Nats_> the /usr/sbin/ceph-disk is informative
[2:09] <olid1982> [ceph1][WARNIN] DEBUG:ceph-disk:Creating xfs fs on /dev/sdb1
[2:09] <olid1982> [ceph1][WARNIN] INFO:ceph-disk:Running command: /sbin/mkfs -t xfs -f -i size=2048 -f -- /dev/sdb1
[2:09] <olid1982> hrhr he is anyway creating a sdb1 ^^;
[2:10] <Nats_> it appears to use 'sgdisk' (which i hadnt previously heard of) to set the partition type
[2:10] <olid1982> [ceph1][WARNIN] INFO:ceph-disk:Running command: /sbin/sgdisk --largest-new=1 --change-name=1:ceph data --partition-guid=1:c8c4dfb5-218c-43de-b7a8-649d9ed2a343 --typecode=1:89c57f98-2fe5-4dc0-89c1-f3ad0ceff2be -- /dev/sdb
[2:10] <olid1982> as it seems, its doing it automatically
[2:10] <Nats_> indeed it does
[2:11] <Nats_> perhaps thats not why its failing to activate then
[2:11] <olid1982> well we will see that :)
[2:12] <olid1982> ceph osd tree
[2:12] <olid1982> 0 5.45999 osd.0 up 1.00000 1.00000
[2:12] <olid1982> looks good so far
[2:12] <olid1982> i will create the other 2 too, and then reboot
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[2:16] <olid1982> 0 5.45999 osd.0 up 1.00000 1.00000
[2:16] <olid1982> 1 5.45999 osd.1 up 1.00000 1.00000
[2:16] <olid1982> 2 5.45999 osd.2 up 1.00000 1.00000
[2:16] <olid1982> root@ceph1:~/ceph-cluster# reboot
[2:16] <olid1982> lets see :)
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[2:18] <olid1982> now its automounting
[2:18] <olid1982> wow, thats mean
[2:18] <olid1982> if you create a /dev/sdXN yourself, then you will not receive a ceph specific label/signature
[2:19] <olid1982> with the create
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[2:21] <olid1982> pgmap v24: 64 pgs, 1 pools, 0 bytes data, 0 objects
[2:21] <olid1982> vs.
[2:21] <olid1982> cat /etc/ceph/ceph.conf | grep pg
[2:21] <olid1982> osd_pool_default_pg_num = 4096
[2:21] <olid1982> osd_pool_default_pgp_num = 4096
[2:21] <olid1982> why does it not get the value from the file correctly ?
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[2:47] <snerd> man, if rados export could demunge the fake directory char delimiters into actual directories, that would've saved me a week of work
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[7:44] <serg> hello everyone. is there any command in ceph that shows what files are using/copying/reading now ?
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[8:43] <max2000> good morning (depending on where you are)! I'm having some trouble getting a scrub error repaired. anyone willing and able to help out with that?
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[8:49] <cooldharma06> hi all
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[8:52] <cooldharma06> i have one testup which runs ceph having 1 mon and 3 osds - i have not mentioned my osd and mon in ceph.conf by quick start i added and its running
[8:52] <cooldharma06> is it necessary to add those things in ceph.conf??
[8:52] <Nats_> ceph.conf must have your monitor ip's in it
[8:52] <Nats_> it doesnt need to have anything about your osds
[8:55] <cooldharma06> Nats_ -> http://ceph.com/docs/master/start/quick-ceph-deploy/ in these they have mentioned anything regarding this
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[9:06] <Nats_> ceph-deploy inserts the monitor ips in your conf
[9:07] <Nats_> when doing 'ceph-deploy new', eg http://pastebin.com/gAC2pcLs
[9:10] <max2000> I have one scrub error in my cluster. I tried doing a repair, but that did not fix it. so I found the osd wich has the problem, stopped that osd, deleted the PG with the problem on that osd and started that osd again. then I issued a forced scrub on that pg, but still the scrub error did not go away. Any ideas?
[9:12] <Nats_> you need to use the 'repair' command to make it actually do something
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[9:12] <Nats_> eg ceph osd repair osd.0
[9:13] <serg> how did you deleted pg with that osd?
[9:14] <serg> i think you should just remove osd from cluster, re-format it and create new osd from it
[9:14] <serg> if there isn't problem with hdd
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[9:18] <cooldharma06> oh thanks Nats_
[9:18] <Nats_> scrub could/should have been called 'check', it has no capability to perform modifications
[9:19] <max2000> serg: sure I can try that
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[9:24] <serg> is there any command in ceph that shows what files are using/copying/reading now ?
[9:28] <serg> anyone?
[9:29] <max2000> files on the osd? on a filesystem on top of rbd?
[9:29] <Nats_> are you talking about cephfs? i dont know anythinga bout it
[9:29] <max2000> lsof I think, either on the osd or on the client
[9:33] <serg> i am about files that are placed on mounted volume, which is ceph cluster)
[9:34] <serg> cannot find something like command ceph -w, where would be info ablout using files with filename and pg,maybe...
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[9:34] <Nats_> if there was anything (and there probably isnt), it would be in the log file of ceph-mds
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[9:35] <serg> you mean if i will copy file aaa to ceph storage-i will see it into mds*.log?
[9:36] <serg> i am copying some files right now,but in that log file noching changed... but this mds is active right now
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[9:46] <serg> still no needed command(
[9:47] <Nats_> i think you want something that doesnt exist
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[9:49] <serg> it can be)
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[9:49] <Sysadmin88> create it and contribute to Ceph :)
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[10:04] <stein> about 1/3 of my requests with the ceph client (ie ceph -s) gives an error before displaying the result: http://fpaste.org/256146/98850381/
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[10:04] <Nats_> at least one of your monitors is not accessible from ceph-adm-02
[10:05] <Nats_> based on the output, 10.84.100.138:6789
[10:05] <stein> hmm, thought i checked that, let me check again :)
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[10:06] <Nats_> well, fwiw its the same kind of error you intermittently see when a monitor is actually down
[10:08] <stein> :) iptables..
[10:08] <stein> thx :)
[10:08] <Nats_> you're welcome
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[10:37] <peem> Hi. I have a problem with installing ceph on RedHat 7 (using this guide goo.gl/PT8Th7). The repository that I need, "ceph OSD", does not show up in my subscription. All others, Mon, Calamari and Installer are there, but not OSD. Any ideas why that may be ?
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[10:50] <serg> it has a down state?
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[10:58] <peem> serg: I'm not sure what you asking, or if even asking me.
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[11:01] <zw> Hi there
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[11:33] <badone> peem: what is your sub?
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[12:08] <peem> badone: Subscription Name: Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform Self-Supported Business Partner NFR
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[12:27] <TMM> Does anyone know of a list of feature differences between 0.80 and 0.90?
[12:27] <TMM> I'm trying to decide whether to install CentOS7 0.80 packages or ceph.com 0.90
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[12:31] <peem> TMM: changelog is here : http://goo.gl/tW1SgQ. I would recommend the latest version.
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[12:32] <TMM> peem, yeah, the problem is that the ceph.com packages don't integrate with centos7 very well at all
[12:33] <peem> TMM: why is that ? I had no problems with deploying ceph on CentOS 7 so far, the only caveat was web interface (calamari), but one can live without it.
[12:34] <TMM> peem, it doesn't install systemd unit files but instead relies on a sysv init script. The sysv init script itself has further problems meaning that they get converted to run-<randon number> units
[12:34] <branto> TMM: fyi: the epel packages in centos7 are pretty much unsupported (no updates, etc)
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[12:34] <branto> because of that I would probably recommend the upstream ceph.com packages
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[12:34] <TMM> hmm, I guess I can use the unit files that are in ceph.com git then
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[12:37] <peem> TMM: Looking at notes, the only problem I had really was with radosgw start script, rest of them was working fine for me.And yes, you could get scripts from git..
[12:38] <TMM> peem, the problem isn't that the script doesn't work, it does, the problem is that it doesn't work well with systemd. We
[12:38] <TMM> we're running a ceph cluster on the same hardware as our hypervisors (openstack setup) to guarantee resources for ceph it needs to be put in it's own slice and appropriate cpu time guaranteed for it
[12:38] <TMM> same for memory
[12:39] <TMM> this is easy to do with systemd units, even sysv init scripts if systemd can give them consistent unit names
[12:39] <TMM> but the way it works now it's essentially not possible
[12:39] <T1w> I'd go for the ceph.com packages simply due to being better updated
[12:39] <T1w> .. and fix any/all systemd errors
[12:40] <T1w> with my own unit files in /etc/systemd/system to overwrite any package-versions
[12:40] <peem> TMM: fair enough, we're running ceph on separate machines.
[12:43] <TMM> ok, I'll just do that then. I was mistaken in where the centos7 packages came from. I thought they were part of core, but they are indeed epel
[12:43] <TMM> so that kind of kills one of the benefits 'core' packages might have had
[12:44] <TMM> the newest current release is 'hammer' right?
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[12:44] <branto> TMM: part of them is core -- the client bits, the server bits are epel packages
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[12:48] <TMM> OK, thanks for all the info guys
[12:48] <TMM> I'll just create my own RPM with some working unit files then
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[13:03] <peem> Repeating my question from morning : I have a problem with installing ceph on RedHat 7 (using this guide goo.gl/PT8Th7). The repository that I need, "ceph OSD", does not show up in my subscription. All others, Mon, Calamari and Installer are there, but not OSD. Any ideas why that may be ?
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[13:09] <branto> peem: I would open a support case with rh support if I were you
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[13:12] <peem> I will, however my boss wanted to contact RH account manager first, which means I have to wait until he does that today or tomorrow maybe. I thought maybe irc will be quicker way.
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[13:14] <branto> peem: well, it might be some kind of misconfiguration on their part
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[13:15] <peem> branto: or our subscription does not cover it, but that seems strange..
[13:15] <peem> I'll wait then ..
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[13:38] <samw> Hi, I have some questions/issues with radosgw-agent and handling a bucket with versioning enabled
[13:38] <samw> versioning was enabled after the bucket already had a lot of activity
[13:39] <samw> At this moment the bucket is almost static, and the sync-agent seems to be starting from the beginning of the log every time
[13:39] <samw> it finishes syncing the bucket
[13:40] <samw> this causes a lot of delete markers and versioned objects being created at the secondary site
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[13:40] <samw> for the (deleted) unversioned objects at the primary site
[13:40] <samw> objects created after versioning was enabled seem to be ok
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[13:41] <cooldharma06> how to configure ceph with openstack cinder any suggestions
[13:42] <cooldharma06> i tried some tutorials facing some issue with connection
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[13:50] <samw> anyone any idea how to handle this correctly?
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[14:20] <serg> i have firefly 0.80.10 and trying to upgrade it to hammer. it says that last trusty repo is mine and already installed.... other versions are still in testing mode?
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[17:11] <sean> so scuttle|afk is a lot younger than I thought. #creeping in #cephday chicago.
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[18:06] <evilrob00> grumble grumble.... the UCS SAN bits don't support ubuntu and our SAN guy is having problems putting the square peg in the round hole.
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[19:35] <championofcyrodi> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/samsung-unveils-2-5-inch-16tb-ssd-the-worlds-largest-hard-drive/
[19:35] <championofcyrodi> https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/internal-hard-drive/
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[19:48] <Thunderbird> what distro outside of rhel is recommended for ceph prototyping? centos, ubuntu or fedora? (or something else)
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[19:49] <Thunderbird> we would be mostly interested in cephfs and don't care about rbd or radosgw
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[19:55] <championofcyrodi> Thunderbird: I have found Ubuntu to have stable packages supporting cephfs
[19:56] <championofcyrodi> also i believe Ubuntu has more implementations of Openstack than any other distro, which supports Ceph as a production storage tier
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[19:56] <championofcyrodi> *prefers ceph as a production storage tier
[19:57] <championofcyrodi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/OpenStackHA#Ceph
[20:00] <Thunderbird> for production we will probably use our own distro, but it is easier to prototype with something else
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