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IRC Log for 2015-07-29

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[0:13] <Italux> Hello everyone
[0:14] <Italux> I'm tring to setup a federated radosgw but when I try to start radosgw-agent I face with error
[0:14] <Italux> 2015-07-28 17:59:13,835 4194 [radosgw_agent][ERROR ] RegionMapError: Could not retrieve region map from destination: make_request() got an unexpected keyword argument 'params'
[0:14] <Italux> Someone could help me to identify why this error is happening?
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[5:25] <tuanlq5> hi
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[5:26] <tuanlq5> ceph document recommends 2 separate network for it
[5:27] <tuanlq5> can I use tc to limit traffic instead?
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[5:39] <doppelgrau> tuanlq5: why do you want to limit the traffik?
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[5:42] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: http://ceph.com/docs/master/_images/ditaa-2452ee22ef7d825a489a08e0b935453f2b06b0e6.png
[5:42] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: I want to limit network for public & cluster network
[5:43] <doppelgrau> tuanlq5: to limit the performance?
[5:43] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: so scrub progress will not eat all bandwidth
[5:44] <doppelgrau> scrub doesn???t eat much bandwidth, only IO (hashes are compared), recovery, backfillig and writes are ???eating??? bandwidth
[5:44] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: yes, I mean recovery :D
[5:44] <doppelgrau> but if you limit the bandwidth on the cluster network you limit all together
[5:44] <doppelgrau> so the writes wait in the same queue???
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[5:45] <doppelgrau> better limit the number of recovery going on per osd
[5:47] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: I intent to limit half for public, and half for cluster
[5:47] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: I will consider that
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[5:48] <doppelgrau> tuanlq5: sounds like a receipe for really bad write performance to mee :)
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[5:49] <doppelgrau> tuanlq5: do you have an all SSD cluster and only gigabit ethernet or 100 MBit Ethernet and normal harddisks?
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[5:50] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: I am building the solution
[5:50] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: it will have ssd, hdd, 10Gbe
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[5:51] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: erasure storage + replicate cache
[5:52] <doppelgrau> tuanlq5: so you want arbitraily criple the peaks whe an Object get promoted/denoted from the cache to worsen the performance?
[5:53] <doppelgrau> tuanlq5: or in other words: I???m quite sure you do not want tc in the ceph network, maybee protection the ceph traffic from other sources, but not to introduce new problems
[5:54] <doppelgrau> tuanlq5: and if you don???t habe seperated networks, simply use only the public network
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[5:55] <doppelgrau> tuanlq5: no need for a private network if you do not have additional network hardware
[5:55] <tuanlq5> so if I can have private network, does it better?
[5:56] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: 1G public ~ 1G private?
[5:56] <doppelgrau> tuanlq5: you have more bandwith, and more bandwidth is good until the storage layer is the limiti
[5:58] <doppelgrau> tuanlq5: but If you do not want to prefer reads over writes the bandwidth aggregated on the public network without private network is faster
[5:58] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: hmm, sure. But 2G network for public vs "1G public-1Gprivate", which is better?
[6:00] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: so maybe public only is better for me, most of traffic is read
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[6:06] <tuanlq5> doppelgrau: thank for your help
[6:07] <doppelgrau> np
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[6:07] <doppelgrau> tuanlq5: and if your workload is mostly read, an other Idee to consider instead of cache-pool: primary copy on SSD
[6:08] <doppelgrau> tuanlq5: I don???t know the application, but for some that might be better
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[7:22] <sean> has anyone been able to use ceph-deploy against a raw partition for a journal since hammer? It keeps telling me that a partition already exists. Previously this was fine but now it seems to be an issue
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[9:07] <Be-El> hi
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[10:45] <Amto_res> Hello Tell me about Calamari in WorkBench tab when I sort by 'Host' I have different colors on the hosts (Green, Light Red) Is this related to a host state? Or nothing is by chance?
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[11:14] <pixelfairy> have a test cluster with 3 ceph mons with one osd each. tried rebooting all three of them, kinda like what might happen in a power failure. when they came back up , AdminSocketConfigObs:: init failed with this warning. http://pastebin.com/6jbJFQMN
[11:14] <pixelfairy> ceph version 0.94.2 on ubuntu 14.04
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[11:31] <pixelfairy> re-running the ansible playbook fixes the socket error
[11:31] <pixelfairy> but not the health warning
[11:35] <doppelgrau> not all osds up & in? and your pool has to few PGs
[11:36] <pixelfairy> osdmap e19: 3 osds: 3 up, 3 in; 64 remapped pgs
[11:36] <pixelfairy> makes sense, this is a tiny cluster. 3x50gig osds
[11:36] <pixelfairy> ill see if i can tweak that. is the 64 stuck pgs related to that?
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[11:38] <doppelgrau> pixelfairy: what does ceph -s reports? And what ist the size parameter of your pool?
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[11:41] <pixelfairy> doppelgrau: size is 2, http://pastebin.com/j50RdKiZ
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[11:42] <doppelgrau> pixelfairy: how many ???nodes??? (or output of ceph osd tree)
[11:42] <pixelfairy> 3
[11:43] <pixelfairy> http://pastebin.com/7G02LZut
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[11:43] <doppelgrau> pixelfairy: all the osds are on one node
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[11:44] <pixelfairy> sure? i made a vm with one blank disk and cloned it 3x then used ansible to make the ceph cluster
[11:44] <pixelfairy> the blank disk is 50gigs
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[11:45] <doppelgrau> pixelfairy: default crush-rule wants to place the two (size) copies on different nodes, so impossible => ???active+remapped???
[11:45] <Be-El> and all your host have the hostname 'ubuntu'....
[11:45] <doppelgrau> pixelfairy: same hostname on all nodes at the time you???d run ansible?
[11:46] <Be-El> pixelfairy: your setup does not assign the correct hostnames to the nodes
[11:46] <pixelfairy> yea, different ip addresses
[11:46] <Be-El> pixelfairy: ip address does not matter
[11:46] <pixelfairy> thanks. ill try again with different hostnames
[11:46] <doppelgrau> pixelfairy: by default the hostname is used in the crush-map as bucket name
[11:46] <Optimus__> what do people use to upgrade between different ceph versions
[11:46] <pixelfairy> ah, thus the confusion
[11:47] <Optimus__> ie. something like ansible/puppet module etc?
[11:47] <doppelgrau> Optimus__: not yet used for that, but I plan to use ansible
[11:47] <Be-El> Optimus__: ansible/puppet is not for upgrading support, but for the initial install/setup
[11:48] <pixelfairy> the ansible role has a rolling update playbook, but i dont know how well that would work if you didnt use it to deploy
[11:48] <doppelgrau> Optimus__: but I have installed my cluster with ansible => only minor changes needed
[11:48] <Be-El> Optimus__: in case of ceph upgrade means changing the package source, installing the newer version and restarting the daemons
[11:48] <pixelfairy> you could probably seed it with your current values
[11:49] <Optimus__> Be-El: can puppet-ceph handle that.. ie . simply point to a different ceph-soure and apply manifest
[11:49] <Optimus__> basically the coordination of service .. ie . mon -> osd -> client etc. can this be handled easily?
[11:49] <Optimus__> or we'll have to build that somehow?
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[11:54] <Optimus__> pixelfairy: does the rolling upgrade playbook allow for a live upgrade?
[11:54] <pixelfairy> thats what it implies, havent tried it
[11:55] <doppelgrau> Optimus__: it should, changes only one host at once, starting with the monitors (as suggested)
[11:55] <Optimus__> doppelgrau: ah ok ..thanks will take a look
[11:55] <pixelfairy> btw, just tried rebooting with real hostnames and only getting clock scew warning
[11:55] <pixelfairy> so alls well
[11:55] <pixelfairy> seems virtual machines always get that till their clocks sync
[11:56] <pixelfairy> at least vmware. didnt have this issue with kvm
[11:56] <pixelfairy> or real hardware
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[11:56] <doppelgrau> pixelfairy: real machines often too, the RTC is most ot the time only pecise to the full second, and IIRC ceph starts erroring at 100ms
[11:57] <pixelfairy> maybe i just didnt notice. we use dell r720s that take forever to boot
[11:57] <doppelgrau> pixelfairy: so after a short time of letting ntp do its job its ok
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[11:58] <pixelfairy> that explains it. i think at work, they just take so long, that ntp has done its thing by the time we finally look
[12:00] <pixelfairy> damn, rbd-fuse still says "Transport endpoint is not connected"
[12:04] <analbeard> hi guys, wonder if anyone could explain some behaviour i'm seeing? currently, i have two roots - one for hdd and one for ssds (neither is called default). if i stop/start an osd daemon it moves from the host bucket (called $hostname-ssd/hdd) and ends up creating a new root called default with the host bucket called $hostname. obviously this isn't ideal - can anyone suggest why this may happen?
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[12:07] <analbeard> i have just managed to google the right terms and found this - http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2014-April/038835.html which suggests setting 'osd crush location = "root=default-ssd"'
[12:08] <analbeard> it still doesn't explain why the osd moves crush location on a restart though - i wouldn't have thought that that was ever desirable behaviour!
[12:08] <doppelgrau> analbeard: ???osd crush update on start???
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[12:08] <analbeard> doppelgrau - that was set to false
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[12:09] <doppelgrau> analbeard: and with the ability of hot-swap of osds (thanks to the udev-magic) that makes sense so changes in location gets updated in the crushmap
[12:10] <analbeard> dopplegrau - true, but should a simple restart be enough to trigger a move in the crushmap?
[12:11] <analbeard> i can declare buckets manually in the ceph conf as i've just discovered, but it's less flexible
[12:11] <doppelgrau> analbeard: if the config file results in changes of the location ...
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[12:15] <doppelgrau> analbeard: I let the configuration management put the crush location th the ceph.conf ([osd] part)
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[12:19] <analbeard> ok, thanks doppelgrau - appreciate the input!
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[16:57] <lincolnb> I'm trying to copy a file from a CephFS directory to another CephFS directory that I have no permission to write to. Instead of getting "permission denied", I get "file exists"
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[16:57] <lincolnb> with kernel 3.18.1
[16:58] <lincolnb> open("foo", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0775) = -1 EEXIST (File exists)
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[17:10] <burley> lincolnb: Curious what would happen if you created a junk file in cephfs, and then tried to mv it
[17:10] <burley> does the source file get deleted after the mv since it 'exists'
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[17:18] <lincolnb> burley: good q
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[17:18] <lincolnb> burley: permission denied as expected
[17:19] <burley> good news there
[17:20] <lincolnb> yep, seems to be cosmetic more than anything cp -f also returns file exists.
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[17:25] <Mosibi> Hi all. I'm building a new ceph cluster that's up and running. The only strange behaviour i notice, is that the command 'ceph -w' returns the 'ceph -s' output and one (week) old 'WRN' entry and nothing else
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[17:27] <Mosibi> I searched and found one person that had the same problem on a old version (we use Hammer)
[17:28] <Mosibi> On another cluster (firefly) we have, 'ceph -w' behaves as expected. I diffed the running ceph confs and there aren't very big changes that could explain this problem.
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[17:31] <visbits> anyone done directory indexing with the radosgw/
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[19:01] <debian112> can you assign two pools to the same client?
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[19:05] <doppelgrau> debian112: assigning pools?
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[19:05] <debian112> yeah
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[19:06] <debian112> use the same client.user and keyring and keys for two different pools?
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[19:08] <doppelgrau> debian112: no problem, see the cephx documentation
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[19:09] <doppelgrau> debian112: ???default??? in most howtos ist full access to all pools
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[20:28] <newb123> Hi. is it possible to mount a ceph blockdevice on FreeBSD?
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[20:37] <burley> newb123: You'd need to export it via iscsi or similar I'd think on an intermediary host
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[20:40] <newb123> burley: so there's no ported kernel module for Ceph for freebsd then?
[20:40] <burley> not that I am aware of
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[20:43] <newb123> burley: how about just cephfs? is there a module for that?
[20:43] <burley> nope
[20:44] <via> there is fuse
[20:44] <gsilvis> I'm trying to configure Openstack with Ceph, and I'm getting the following messages in my ceph-mon logs, whenever I try to create a volume
[20:44] <gsilvis> 2015-07-29 14:43:22.397097 7f2237c43700 0 mon.0@0(leader) e1 handle_command mon_command({ " p r e f i x " : " d f " , " f o r m a t " : " j s o n " } v 0) v1
[20:44] <gsilvis> (the result is that nothing is created in ceph, and the openstack volume goes to the error state)
[20:45] <newb123> via: do you know if building ceph on freebsd will allow me to mount cephfs using FUSE?
[20:47] <via> no clue. i ran into some issues on openbsd related to the threading
[20:47] <via> never tried on freebsd
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[20:47] <newb123> via: ahh thanks. you managed to compile it though?
[20:48] <via> yes
[20:48] <via> the only linuxy dep was the e2fs uuid libs
[20:48] <via> but i think freebsd has that
[20:48] <newb123> via: yes currently it can't find any of the sig functions.. but I assume that's just some kind of include path issue.. alright I guess I'll see what the performance is like using iscsi
[20:49] <newb123> via: then i'll see if I can get ceph/fuse running on freebsd
[20:49] <via> i would not consider cephfs for anything you need to be very robust and reliable
[20:49] <via> iscsi re-export is probably far better supported
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[20:49] <via> and should be decently performant too, given a sufficiently sized cluster of endpoints
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[20:55] <via> newb123: apparently you can access rbd with fuse as files? i have zero experience with that
[20:56] <newb123> via: interesting.. i'll try the re-export first though since it seems like it'll have the highest chance of working
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[21:06] <Italux> Hello everyone
[21:06] <Italux> I'm tring to setup a federated radosgw but when I try to start radosgw-agent I face with error
[21:06] <Italux> 2015-07-28 17:59:13,835 4194 [radosgw_agent][ERROR ] RegionMapError: Could not retrieve region map from destination: make_request() got an unexpected keyword argument 'params'
[21:06] <Italux> Someone could help me to identify why this error is happening?
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[21:13] <Mosibi> Hi all. 'ceph -w' returns the 'ceph -s' output and one (week) old 'WRN' entry and nothing else. Has anybody seen this before or know what is wrong?
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[23:10] <debian112> Is this how I would assign two pools to the same client:
[23:10] <debian112> ceph auth caps client.user mon 'allow r' osd 'allow rw pool=pool1, pool2'
[23:10] <debian112> ?
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