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IRC Log for 2015-07-17

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[0:07] <fedgoat> having to do some maintenance on an OSD node, have the cluster set to noout at the moment...how long can this stay in noout safelty before removing the flag if for some reason I am unable to bring the node back up due to hardware issues?
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[4:10] <TiCPU> After a network failure on a OSD host, I have 2 PG marked as active+clean+degraded, how can that be possible?
[4:11] <lurbs> What does 'ceph health detail' say?
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[4:12] <TiCPU> pg 14.107 is active+clean+degraded, acting [8,2147483647,6,10,1,0]
[4:12] <TiCPU> OSD 2147483647 is unlikely
[4:13] <lurbs> CRUSH might be failing to find 6 (!) appropriate OSDs to map those PGs onto.
[4:14] <lurbs> Is this a replicated, or erasure coded, pool?
[4:14] <TiCPU> looking at pg map of other PG, I don't see 2147483647 anywhere
[4:14] <TiCPU> most of my data is replicated, but I have erasure coded for cephfs
[4:14] <TiCPU> cephfs data
[4:15] <TiCPU> osdmap e19448 pg 1.1 (1.1) -> up [10,0,9] acting [10,0,9] for replicated, osdmap e19448 pg 14.1 (14.1) -> up [1,4,6,11,2,5] acting [1,4,6,11,2,5] for erasure
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[4:17] <lurbs> http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/troubleshooting/troubleshooting-pg/#not-enough-osds
[4:17] <lurbs> Er, I mean: http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/troubleshooting/troubleshooting-pg/#erasure-coded-pgs-are-not-active-clean
[4:18] <lurbs> So either there simply aren't enough OSDs, or CRUSH needs a tweak to try a little harder to find valid OSDs.
[4:19] <TiCPU> I see, it started after I had to reboot this host (osd.4/osd.8), we're adding 8 OSDs soon, maybe I should just wait
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[4:21] <TiCPU> I'm surprised, with 12 OSDs and k=4/m=2 I guess when I had the outage, some new blocks were added and should be relocated now but CRUSH does not recalculate
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[4:22] <lurbs> What does 'ceph pg 14.107 query' give you? You may need to pastebin it.
[4:23] <TiCPU> http://pastebin.com/D1s5EdeX
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[4:24] <TiCPU> outage was today around 17h53 if it can help with the timestamps, at 19h first try to reconnect which failed then later at 21h it was recovering
[4:26] <lurbs> Looks to me like CRUSH is giving up finding OSDs too early, as per: http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/troubleshooting/troubleshooting-pg/#crush-gives-up-too-soon
[4:27] <TiCPU> that explains why the problem appeared only after a prolonged outage
[4:27] <lurbs> That or it's simply jammed up somewhere, in which case a rolling restart of OSDs may help.
[4:28] <TiCPU> I'll give it a try
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[4:37] <TiCPU> lurbs, I think I'll stop for now as it added one more
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[8:49] <Be-El> hi
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[8:54] <nilshug> OSD can't start anymore, getting a message like in http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/6671 or 11429 : after get_map(epoch_t) FAILED assert(ret). v0.72.2, same after upgrade to v0.94.2. any ideas how to recover?
[8:58] <Be-El> is a single osd affected or several ones?
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[9:01] <nilshug> just one is affected
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[9:03] <Be-El> well, if everything else fails you can zap that osd and rebuild it
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[9:05] <nilshug> bad thing is, that cluster has no redundant replications
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[9:08] <Be-El> ok, that's really bad
[9:09] <Be-El> how large is the affected osd partition/disk?
[9:09] <Be-El> and do you have a spare disk?
[9:10] <nilshug> it's around 1tb and yes, I have a spare disk
[9:11] <Be-El> if no developer comes up with a solution of the actual problem, the last resort might be creating a new osd, stopping its daemon, copying all the pg data files to the new osd and restarting it
[9:12] <Be-El> afaik the osd daemon scans the content of the data directory to create an inventory of the pgs it has; so copying the data to another osd might make it accesible again
[9:12] <Be-El> but that's just an untested idea ;-)
[9:13] <Be-El> but if it works you still have the broken osd to allow the developers to fix the actual problem
[9:13] <nilshug> then it should also be possible to just move all non pg data files and set up the node again?
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[9:14] <nilshug> found some other guys having similar issues, they were not fixed yet, so I have little hope it will be fixed... but I'll keep a backup of the files anyway
[9:14] <nilshug> i'll try your suggestion, thanks!
[9:15] <Be-El> don't quote me if you loose all your data, i'm just another user
[9:15] <nilshug> sure :-)
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[11:28] <nils_> very difficult to find a good motherboard for a new OSD
[11:28] <nils_> at least when you need SFP+ ports instead of RJ-45
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[11:31] <nils_> this one looks okay: http://www.asus.com/Server-Workstation/P9DMHSAS10GDUAL/specifications/ but I don't have experience with Broadcom 10G NIC
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[13:04] <s3an2> fedgoat: I have left noout set overnight when doing planned work etc, it is just worth checkign your pool replica count and also expect more backfil when you do bring the server back.
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[13:49] <lifeboy> Hi people, where does one get "cephfs-journal-tool" from? It's in the documentation for ceph, but I don't know how to install it.
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[13:56] <branto> lifeboy: it should be in the main package but not in older ceph releases
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[13:58] <lifeboy> branto: Ah, that may explain why I can't find it. I'm just in the process of killing the openvz containers I still have left, since I can't upgrade to a newer kernel with those still hanging around.
[13:59] <lifeboy> I'm using proxmox, so I want to stay inside their eco-system and not load my own manual upgrades if I can.
[14:00] <lifeboy> Of course, if there are too many issues I can't get resolved, I will have to get ceph directly rather than from proxmox
[14:00] <branto> what version of ceph do they provide?
[14:01] <lifeboy> I currently have 0.80.8
[14:05] <branto> you should probably upgrade to hammer (0.94.x) to get the cephfs-journal-tool, not sure if it was already in giant
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[14:56] <lifeboy> branto: Thanks, I'm busy doing that now, so I hope things will go better with a newer version.
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[16:08] <xoritor> if i want to make a file from and rbd device i should be able to use 'rbd export foo foo.img' right... that SHOULD work? correct?
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[17:08] <gleam> mongo: what was that 1u 12x3.5 4x2.5" chassis you were talking about a while back? did you ever get those evaluation pieces in?
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[19:19] <MVenesio> Hi guys, what's the difference of install ceph with ceph-deploy tool and install it manually
[19:20] <amatus> one is a clunky shell script and the other is badly documented?
[19:23] <doppelgrau> :)
[19:23] <MVenesio> amatus: hahaha
[19:24] <MVenesio> i already installed two pre-production clusters with ceph-deploy without issues
[19:25] <doppelgrau> MVenesio: in the end that???s the difference. E.g. I began directly using manuall installation (asible => not really manual) and didn???t run in some limitations of ceph-deploy (ceph-deploy wants working hostnames, manual IPs are enough)
[19:25] <MVenesio> but seriously, are there any reason, why i should install it manually instead using ceph-deploy ?
[19:26] <doppelgrau> MVenesio: In my eyes manual installs are good if you embedd it some configuration mananagement-enviroment
[19:26] <doppelgrau> ansible, puppet, chef, salt ???
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[19:28] <MVenesio> doppelgrau: i understand, i'm using ansible for automation, so i can create a new playbook for ceph
[19:29] <MVenesio> doppelgrau: thanks for the advice
[19:29] <doppelgrau> MVenesio: https://github.com/ceph/ceph-ansible <- good starting point
[19:30] <MVenesio> doppelgrau: thanks
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[19:31] <bsanders> I just noticed I'm not setting the journal size in my ceph.conf "osd_journal_size": "5120",
[19:32] <bsanders> I think it should be bigger (and the journals are on bigger partitions), so if I change that should it take effect and Ceph will start using more space for journaling?
[19:34] <doppelgrau> bsanders: own partitions are allway completly used
[19:35] <doppelgrau> bsanders ://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/configuration/osd-config-ref/
[19:36] <bsanders> doppelgrau: Oh, interesting. So if my journal partitions are huge (30-40GB), could that mess with my performance?
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[19:36] <bsanders> (thanks for the link, reading up)
[19:37] <doppelgrau> bsanders: I think in that case other parameters limit the amount (e.g. filestore max sync interval and other filestore parameters)
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[19:38] <bsanders> Yes, that makes sense.
[19:38] <bsanders> doppelgrau: thank you :)
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[20:36] <cholcombe> i'm thinking of building some rust bindings for librados today :)
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[21:14] <saltsa> vvkhirvcrvfutdjhlnuelkccbrurilfcjergduklgufc
[21:14] <saltsa> vvkhirvcrvfukgfnuntudrdrhnbhkbgrjlilrfrcbghc
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[21:15] <snakamoto> saltsa: one of those days, huh
[21:16] <saltsa> damn those yubikeys
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[21:44] <cholcombe> lol
[21:44] <m0zes> hopefully those truly are one time passwords.
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[21:44] <m0zes> interesting that the first 12 bytes are the same.
[21:46] <rkeene> You should upgrade to a smartcard. :-)
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[21:59] <brad_mssw> the first 12 bytes of a yubikey are the id
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[22:00] <brad_mssw> and it uses a shared aes key to encrypt a counter and some other stuff ... so it should be pretty one time
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