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IRC Log for 2015-07-13

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[8:47] <Be-El> hi
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[8:54] <Be-El> i'm having some problems with crashing ceph-fuse clients. how do i enable debug output for these clients?
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[9:14] <kefu> Be-El, by default the log from ceph-fuse should goto stderr, i think.
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[9:15] <Be-El> kefu: it's mounted by fstab, and the log usually goes to /var/log/ceph/*client*
[9:15] <Be-El> kefu: but i've gound the debug_client settings....it's somewhat hidden in the documentation
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[9:16] <Be-El> kefu: but do you know how to handle incomplete pgs? i've a second and more pressing problem with one incomplete pg...
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[10:02] <muni> hi
[10:04] <muni> can i get some help with an issue i have?
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[10:10] <muni> hi
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[10:15] <muni> hi
[10:15] <muni> can i get some help with an issue i have?
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[10:16] <muni> hi
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[10:18] <muni> Hello
[10:19] <jcsp> muni: please stop spamming this channel. When you have a question, you can just go ahead and ask it.
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[10:22] <muni> sorry, i have an issue where i cannot delete files or folders from a bucket.
[10:22] <muni> i get this on rgw: ====== req done req=0x7f5e080eda80 http_status=500 ======
[10:24] <muni> I dont have an issue uploading data, just deleting
[10:25] <muni> i am running ceph 0.94.2
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[10:28] <muni> this the log from RadosGW
[10:28] <muni> calculated digest=4/aScqOXf9hCY123123FQds0OIBk=
[10:28] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216756 7f5daaf65700 15 auth_sign=4/aScqOXf9hCY123123FQds0OIBk=
[10:28] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216759 7f5daaf65700 15 compare=0
[10:28] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216767 7f5daaf65700 2 req 17237:0.000278:s3:DELETE /cloudberrybucket/tmp/:delete_obj:reading permissions
[10:28] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216810 7f5daaf65700 15 Read AccessControlPolicy<AccessControlPolicy xmlns="http://s3.amazonaws.com/doc/2006-03-01/"><Owner><ID>cbxx</ID><DisplayName>Cloudberry Labs User</DisplayName></Owner><AccessControlList><Grant><Grantee xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:type="CanonicalUser"><ID>cbxx</ID><DisplayName>Cloudberry Labs User</DisplayName></Grantee><Permission>FULL_CONTROL</Permission></Grant></Access
[10:29] <muni> ControlList></AccessControlPolicy>
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216828 7f5daaf65700 2 req 17237:0.000340:s3:DELETE /cloudberrybucket/tmp/:delete_obj:init op
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216838 7f5daaf65700 2 req 17237:0.000349:s3:DELETE /cloudberrybucket/tmp/:delete_obj:verifying op mask
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216842 7f5daaf65700 20 required_mask= 4 user.op_mask=7
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216847 7f5daaf65700 2 req 17237:0.000359:s3:DELETE /cloudberrybucket/tmp/:delete_obj:verifying op permissions
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216853 7f5daaf65700 5 Searching permissions for uid=cbxx mask=50
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216856 7f5daaf65700 5 Found permission: 15
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216860 7f5daaf65700 5 Searching permissions for group=1 mask=50
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216864 7f5daaf65700 5 Permissions for group not found
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216867 7f5daaf65700 5 Searching permissions for group=2 mask=50
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216870 7f5daaf65700 5 Permissions for group not found
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216873 7f5daaf65700 5 Getting permissions id=cbxx owner=cbxx perm=2
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216876 7f5daaf65700 10 uid=cbxx requested perm (type)=2, policy perm=2, user_perm_mask=2, acl perm=2
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216882 7f5daaf65700 2 req 17237:0.000394:s3:DELETE /cloudberrybucket/tmp/:delete_obj:verifying op params
[10:29] <muni> 201
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216888 7f5daaf65700 2 req 17237:0.000400:s3:DELETE /cloudberrybucket/tmp/:delete_obj:executing
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.216925 7f5daaf65700 20 get_obj_state: rctx=0x7f5daaf641c0 obj=cloudberrybucket:tmp/ state=0x7f5e0406be10 s->prefetch_data=0
[10:29] <jcsp> muni
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.219125 7f5daaf65700 10 manifest: total_size = 0
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.219133 7f5daaf65700 20 get_obj_state: setting s->obj_tag to default.16132.16299
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.219141 7f5daaf65700 20 get_obj_state: rctx=0x7f5daaf641c0 obj=cloudberrybucket:tmp/ state=0x7f5e0406be10 s->prefetch_data=0
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.219166 7f5daaf65700 20 reading from .rgw:.bucket.meta.cloudberrybucket:default.16132.1
[10:29] <jcsp> muni: PLEASE don't paste logs into chat
[10:29] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.219185 7f5daaf65700 20 get_obj_state: rctx=0x7f5daaf63600 obj=.rgw:.bucket.meta.cloudberrybucket:default.16132.1 state=0x7f5e04051f60 s->prefetch_data=0
[10:30] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.219200 7f5daaf65700 10 cache get: name=.rgw+.bucket.meta.cloudberrybucket:default.16132.1 : hit
[10:30] <jcsp> use something like pastebin
[10:30] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.219212 7f5daaf65700 20 get_obj_state: s->obj_tag was set empty
[10:30] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.219221 7f5daaf65700 10 cache get: name=.rgw+.bucket.meta.cloudberrybucket:default.16132.1 : hit
[10:30] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.219246 7f5daaf65700 20 bucket index object: .dir.default.16132.1
[10:30] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.227267 7f5da5f5b700 20 get_obj_state: rctx=0x7f5da5f5a1c0 obj=cloudberrybucket:MBS-f049230c-6628-4b4a-a025-7ff9dbed736c/CBB_TPL-SBS1/D:/DATA/docs/1019/00002/?????????? ???? G7889.wbk:/20050410160310/?????????? ???? G7889.wbk state=0x7f5e100be420 s->prefetch_data=0
[10:30] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.227294 7f5da5f5b700 10 setting object write_tag=default.16132.17234
[10:30] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.227381 7f5da5f5b700 20 reading from .rgw:.bucket.meta.cloudberrybucket:default.16132.1
[10:30] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.227400 7f5da5f5b700 20 get_obj_state: rctx=0x7f5da5f59140 obj=.rgw:.bucket.meta.cloudberrybucket:default.16132.1 state=0x7f5e10000b60 s->prefetch_data=0
[10:30] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.227414 7f5da5f5b700 10 cache get: name=.rgw+.bucket.meta.cloudberrybucket:default.16132.1 : hit
[10:30] <muni> 2015-07-12 17:51:33.227427 7f5da5f5b700
[10:30] <muni> ok, sorry
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[10:31] <muni> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SsEMXZik
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[10:35] <muni> anyone has an Idea?
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[10:39] <Be-El> do you use ec pools for all .rgw pools?
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[10:42] <muni> I dont think i use any. running ceph osd erasure-code-profile ls returns - default
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[11:15] <muni> i have an issue where i cannot delete files or folders from a bucket. i get this on rgw: ====== req done req=0x7f5e080eda80 http_status=500 ====== I dont have an issue uploading data, just deleting i am running ceph 0.94.2
[11:16] <muni> here is the Radosgw log http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SsEMXZik
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[11:36] <muni> i have an issue where i cannot delete files or folders from a bucket. i get this on rgw: ====== req done req=0x7f5e080eda80 http_status=500 ====== I dont have an issue uploading data, just deleting i am running ceph 0.94.2
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[11:51] <muni> what is the best place to support from the community?
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[12:04] <muni> what is the best place to get support from the community?
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[13:44] <kutija_> does anyone has recommendation for a decent 500GB SSD for journaling except DC SSD series from Intel or Micron?
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[13:51] <doppelgrau> kutija: no good recommendations, but two advices: take a look on the TBW and the performance with smal syncronous IOs
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[13:52] <kutija_> I need to replace Samsung 850 Pro which has 1.2MB/s with DSYNC
[13:53] <kutija_> which is pretty slow
[13:53] <kutija_> so I'm looking for replacement solution
[13:53] <kutija_> I am able to acquire Intel S3500 480GB
[13:53] <kutija_> but I was hoping that I could find somethign that is a little bit cheaper
[13:54] <kutija_> and I know that endurance is important and actually I am not willing to consider it if the price difference is pretty small
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[13:55] <red> kutija how do you test dsync perf?
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[14:03] <kutija_> red: http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2014/10/10/ceph-how-to-test-if-your-ssd-is-suitable-as-a-journal-device/
[14:06] <red> i see
[14:06] <red> well cannot test it the same way
[14:06] <red> but i turned write cache off
[14:06] <red> and with
[14:06] <red> # dd bs=1M count=256 if=/dev/zero of=test oflag=dsync
[14:06] <red> 256+0 records in
[14:06] <red> 256+0 records out
[14:06] <red> 268435456 bytes (268 MB) copied, 8.90606 s, 30.1 MB/s
[14:06] <red> cheap ssd
[14:07] <red> but, let me make some random file
[14:10] <kutija_> why write cache makes such difference?
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[14:13] <red> dd bs=1M if=/tmp/randfile of=test oflag=dsync
[14:13] <red> 512+0 records in
[14:13] <red> 512+0 records out
[14:13] <red> 536870912 bytes (537 MB) copied, 17.1619 s, 31.3 MB/s
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[14:13] <red> i guess not bad for desktop ssd :)
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[14:16] <kutija_> yeah
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[14:16] <kutija_> which SSD is it
[14:18] <red> kinkgston hyperx 3k 120gb
[14:18] <red> with 290 tbw
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[14:19] <red> sandforce with intel mem
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[14:23] <kutija_> well it's much better than my Samsung 850
[14:23] <kutija_> root@node-12:~# dd if=randfile of=/dev/sda bs=4k count=100000 oflag=direct,dsync
[14:23] <kutija_> 100000+0 records in
[14:23] <kutija_> 100000+0 records out
[14:23] <kutija_> 409600000 bytes (410 MB) copied, 355.75 s, 1.2 MB/s
[14:23] <kutija_> root@node-12:~#
[14:23] <kutija_> :D
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[14:27] <sig_wall> I hope that sda was non-system drive
[14:27] <red> ;)
[14:27] <kutija_> nope
[14:27] <kutija_> :)
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[14:54] <borourke> I've just upgraded to SL6.5 and none of my monitors will restart! Has anyone seen anything similar?
[14:54] <borourke> I'm running 0.94.1
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[15:11] <borourke> ust saw my typo, s/SL6.5/SL6.6
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[15:18] <tuxcrafter> http://paste.debian.net/281390
[15:18] <tuxcrafter> im going to sent an email to the mailinglist to ask how to resolve the above situation
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[16:26] <mgariepy> hello, i have a ceph heatlh warning and i would like to know how to fix it.
[16:26] <mgariepy> HEALTH_WARN pool volumes has too few pgs
[16:26] <mgariepy> pool volumes objects per pg (11) is more than 11 times cluster average (1)
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[16:29] <doppelgrau> mgariepy: Do you have lots of empty pools?
[16:30] * doppelgrau haven???t seen that error message yet, so it is a guess
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[16:33] <mgariepy> doppelgrau, i have a few indeed.
[16:35] <mgariepy> 14 pools, 9 empty, 3 with some data (less than 30M) and 2 with 50-160GB.
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[16:35] <doppelgrau> mgariepy: they bring the average down??? I guess in this case you can either remove empty pools, ignore the message or take a look where you can adjust the parameter :)
[16:36] <doppelgrau> mgariepy: That message makes IMHO sense if all pools are in use, since that shows a large inbalance => potentially bad data distribution
[16:36] <doppelgrau> mgariepy: but in your case I would call it a ???false positive"
[16:37] <mgariepy> yeah, i guess so.
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[16:37] <mgariepy> it's triggered only with getting a more 10 times cluster average ?
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[16:39] <doppelgrau> mgariepy: I don???t know the exact number, but I guess so
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[16:53] <mgariepy> doppelgrau, thanks for your help.
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[17:00] <doppelgrau> np
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[20:07] <zenpac> Is there a site to upload image files similar to pastebin for ttext?
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[20:10] <[arx]> imagebin
[20:10] <[arx]> imgur
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[20:10] <[arx]> a crap ton of others
[20:11] <zenpac> http://picpaste.com/upload.php has got an image of my Ceph model. It has a few problems: 1) CephFS is really not a service and runs in the kernel. Perhaps it should be separate from others? 2) Not sure RBD belongs in same group as other (daemon) objects.
[20:11] <zenpac> Oo.. http://picpaste.com/Ceph_Zenpack_Model-4J8t6y1V.png
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[20:16] <zenpac> RBD has no Daemon..
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[20:18] <mtanski> You can use CephFS without kernel support, via fuse filesystem or the library directly. Just saying there???s a lot of different ways of interacting with it.
[20:18] <via> zenpac: that diagram seems to be misleading
[20:18] <via> why is cephcluster its own box that doesn't have the components of the ceph cluster like th eosd/mon/mds, and why is something like cephfs off by itself in its own box
[20:19] <via> a box for "servicse" and a box for "daemons" in the same diagram deosn't really make sense
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[20:20] <zenpac> via: We're trying to model the Ceph inftrastructure from a monitoring point of view. CephCluster is by iteself so that we can attribute the other objects to a particular cluster.
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[20:23] <via> well, when you say you're monitoring 'cephfs', what do you mean? you already monitor the mds
[20:23] <via> and that is what exposes the cephfs
[20:23] <zenpac> via: I agree with your comment on Services.. CephFS and RBD are not daemons, but they are services.
[20:24] <via> you can monitor mountpoints on client machiens
[20:24] <zenpac> .. Via.. we'd not want to monitor client machines.. That is not part of Ceph cluster that we want to monitor.
[20:25] <via> then what exactly is 'cephfs' doing on there, or rdb?
[20:25] <via> they are only on the clients
[20:26] <zenpac> I'd like to be able to at least report on the health of any RBD on the server, if possible.. I can also get some limited CephFS info from the server.
[20:27] <via> what do you mean by the health of an rdb?
[20:27] <via> if ceph's pgs are all active and accessible, then it works
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[20:30] <zenpac> via: I got hammered with a huge split
[20:32] <zenpac> via: good questions.. I'm trying to at least represent all the major parts of Ceph and be able to describe them as objects and determine health, as you say.
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[20:35] <zenpac> via: in terms of the CephFS, Its MDS plus the data pool as well no?
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[20:36] <via> mds is a daemon, data pools are a logical service. so really if the mds, osd's are up, you're fine
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[20:36] <via> it requires the data and metadata pools
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[20:59] <zenpac> via: so mds + pool_data + pool_mds => CephFS is ok.
[20:59] <zenpac> assuming all those pieces are ok.
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[21:00] <zenpac> via: So I just need to find a way to get Calamari to tell me if a pool is healthy ..
[21:01] <via> that may not be true, but if ceph says that ceph is up, it should be okay
[21:01] <via> so if all the PGs in a pool are healthy/active then it should be up
[21:02] <zenpac> ceph osd pool stats => provides some data.
[21:05] <zenpac> ceph osd pool stats -f json-pretty => recover and recovery_rate are empty for happy pools..
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[21:07] <zenpac> Is there a safe way to set pools into recovery state?
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[21:09] <zenpac> Can I just shut-off one OSD?
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[21:18] <borourke> I updated my devel cluster from SL6.5 to SL6.6 earlier today and now the monitors won't restart, has anyone seen this before? When I restart the monitor it just hangs and produces no logs, even with debug enabled
[21:21] <[arx]> hm, http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/configuration/network-config-ref/ based off that diagram, should Ceph Mon servers be apart of the cluster network also? or just osds
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[21:22] <doppelgrau> [arx]: the cluster network is optional, on the cluster network only replication and backfillig between OSDs happens
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[21:23] <[arx]> doppelgrau: ok, thanks
[21:24] <zenpac> Is there a good/safe way to break my ceph cluster temporarily to see and test failure modes?
[21:26] <gleam> pull the power on a mon or an osd node, pull drives out at random, kill -9 the mon or osd processes, that sort of thing
[21:26] <gleam> you don't want to do that type of thing safely :)
[21:26] <gleam> if you do it safely you're not reproducing a real failure
[21:28] <zenpac> gleam: I'd like to be able to recover though ;)
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[21:30] <zenpac> Shuttdown down osd's gracefully doesn't seem to phase it.. which is expected.
[21:30] <doppelgrau> zenpac: did you wait long enough?
[21:31] <doppelgrau> recovery starts after 15 minutes (default)
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[21:31] <doppelgrau> shutdown => osd down => waiting => osd down+out => recovery
[21:32] <zenpac> dopple: to restart OSDs or to see if it is in recovery? I only waiteds a few mins to restart the OSD's after writing data.
[21:33] <zenpac> So probably not long enough..
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[21:36] <zenpac> Do OSD's need to be larger than some minumum size?
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[21:37] <doppelgrau> I don???t think there is a technical minimum size
[21:37] <doppelgrau> too small and you have to adjust the weight by hand
[21:38] <doppelgrau> too large differences and the PG-distribution varies extrem
[21:38] <zenpac> Yea, I have one set of 35GB and one set of 5GB...
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[21:39] <zenpac> I was going to add a small 5GB and see if that would cause any problems or migration of PG's.
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[22:15] <zenpac> What should the weight be for a small OSD?
[22:15] <zenpac> Or an OSD much smaller than the existing ones?
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[22:16] <doppelgrau> zenpac: usually proportionaly to the size, so 5GB 1/7th of the weigt of the 35GB, and the usuall advice is 1 = 1TB (but you are talking on a bit smaller scale)
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[22:20] <zenpac> doppelgrau: ok,, Thanks.. Yea my sizes are tiny because I'm building a small test system with limited resources.
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[22:28] <zenpac> If I do a 'kill -9 ' on an osd, will there be repair on restart of that service? Do I need to write the the other OSD's to get out of sync? My cluster has no load.
[22:29] <doppelgrau> zenpac: my advice: since it???s a test setup: play with it.
[22:30] <zenpac> doppelgrau: I will , but I don't want to have to rebuild it (again).
[22:30] <doppelgrau> (but no, no need to write, but without load the time to detect the down osd can increase and after restart there will be resync)
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[22:43] <monsted> scan: scrub repaired 0 in 25h42m with 0 errors on Sat Dec 28 01:30:08 2013
[22:44] <monsted> someone may not have read the best practice on scrubbing
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[22:44] <bsanders> In `ceph pg dump` what is the unit for the field "last_deep_scrub"? My output is something like "1321'118930"
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[22:52] <sjusthm> bsanders: you can basically ignore that, it's the interval pg version at which the last deep scrub happened
[22:53] <sjusthm> the last deep scrub completed after the 118930th write to that pg, and that happened in epoch 1321
[22:53] <sjusthm> *internal pg version
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[22:57] <monsted> oops, wrong channel :)
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[22:57] <nicolo> ciao
[22:57] <nicolo> !list
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[22:58] <monsted> nicolo: what exactly were you expecting to get from that?
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[23:01] <gleam> warez
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[23:01] <bsanders> sjusthm: thanks, was trying to figure out if it was some obscure but new and awesome timestamp
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[23:51] <cpceph> Does anyone know what would cause a single OSD to fill up (95% used) when all the OSDs have the same weight in the crushmap and rados df shows only 60% full?
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[23:52] <cpceph> I have about 200 PGs per OSD and assumed crush would balance evenly...
[23:53] <doppelgrau> cpceph: strange crush rules or bad luck (or some process running on the server writing garage in the OSD-dir)
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[23:54] <doppelgrau> cpceph: I???d take a look with du -h ???max-depth=1 if all is the expected data
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[23:55] <lurbs> In my experience CRUSH errs towards speed and consistency, not fairness. Our clusters had OSDs that differed in the number of PGs allocated to them by 30% or so.
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[23:55] <lurbs> I ended up writing a script to reweight them all based on the output of 'ceph osd df'.
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[23:59] <cpceph> thanks, I wasn't aware of the ceph osd df command. It is as you say, a bit unbalanced. I have 700+ OSDs and it's surprising the disparity between utilization on OSDs (30% to 95%)

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