#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-07-08

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[0:46] <bgleb> Hi! Are 0.94.3 release already scheduled? It seems that we're heavily impacted by #11749 :(
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[9:04] <Be-El> hi
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[9:26] <capri> is there something like georeplication or async replication between regions available or possible to configure with ceph?
[9:26] <capri> im looking for some async replication with ceph accross countrys
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[9:30] <tnt> Is there any reason why I would have much more write access to my disks after upgrade from Giant -> Hammer ? (despite the cluster load being the same)
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[9:37] <Nats_> capri, afaik ceph is sync only
[9:37] <tnt> Theses are the 'writes' on the disk for the last two weeks : http://i.imgur.com/0ENApdX.png you can clearly see when I did the upgrade ...
[9:38] <capri> Nats_, how would you deal with a seperated datacenter with low bandwith connection, but you want to snyc the data to your main dc?
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[15:14] <Docta> Hello fellow Ceph users!
[15:15] <Docta> Quick question for anyone here; We are currently experiencing a ton of issues with our RBD client server.. we've tracked it down to the 3.13.5 kernel we're using and i'm wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a suitable kernel to upgrade to that has few, if any, issues with the RBD driver
[15:17] <Docta> Specifically, we'd love to go up to 3.19.X
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[15:21] <doppelgrau> I would suggest 4.1
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[15:27] <Docta> doppelgrau, this is on a production environment and i'm a bit hesitant to jump so high. Any particular reason for the recommendation?
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[15:29] <doppelgrau> Docta: two reasons for me: 1. ceph is relativly new => many improvments and bugfixed happend in nearly every kernel version 2. with 4.1 you can use many of the modern features like straw2
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[15:33] <doppelgrau> Docta: http://cephnotes.ksperis.com/blog/2014/01/21/feature-set-mismatch-error-on-ceph-kernel-client
[15:34] <Docta> Thanks a ton for the info doppelgrau!
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[15:51] <MaZ-> lol... so i have about 30Tb of leaked shadow files from radosgw :>
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[16:53] <zenpac> Does it make sense to even talk about "pool health", and if so how does one find that?
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[16:58] <doppelgrau> zenpac: how would you define pool health? all PGs of that pool healthy?
[16:58] <via> has anyone here done any comparison of something like scality to ceph?
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[17:00] <zenpac> doppelgrau: I'm guessing yes, but I'm not sure yet.
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[17:02] <doppelgrau> zenpac: I guess you could write some skript parsing pg dump
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[17:10] <zenpac> doppelgrau: good idea..
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[17:25] <zenpac> Do PG's belong to a unique Pool?
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[17:27] <doppelgrau> zenpac: yes, see this script: http://cephnotes.ksperis.com/blog/2015/02/23/get-the-number-of-placement-groups-per-osd
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[17:42] <zenpac> So the PGID has the pool number inside of it?
[17:42] <zenpac> pgid = pool_id.# ?
[17:42] <m0zes> yep, everything before the . is pool id
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[17:43] <zenpac> great.. ty..
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[18:33] <burley> Is there a way to pass additional arguments to mkfs.xfs via the ceph-disk command?
[18:33] <burley> other than via the ceph.conf
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[19:30] <cholcombe> anyone know how the raw used number in ceph df is calculated?
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[19:42] <TheSov> df?
[19:44] <TheSov> well
[19:45] <TheSov> its basically how much space your pool can have in it, at the current size, if u filled up the rest of the raw space
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[19:46] <TheSov> raw used is basically how much data is occupying the size field
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[19:46] <TheSov> basically when raw used is at 100.00 you cluster is full
[19:47] <TheSov> i would really suggest u dont let it get that far :)
[19:47] <doppelgrau> cholcombe: RAW-Used basically Used Data * replication
[19:48] <cholcombe> doppelgrau: ok cool. I was thinking that but I just wanted to confirm :)
[19:48] <doppelgrau> cholcombe: but MAX AVAIL is only reliable for simple crush maps and more or less equal sized failure domains
[19:49] <cholcombe> it looks like from ceph df that the Pools section shows the actual used after replication
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[20:17] <TheSov> i wish there was a comprehensive guide to crush maps
[20:17] <TheSov> im still trying to understand how they work in depth
[20:18] <TheSov> like i want to keep 2 copies of data locally, 1 copy at the remote DC and 1 in the cloud
[20:18] <TheSov> so i know i should have size = 4
[20:18] <TheSov> my local weights to equal to 2
[20:18] <TheSov> and each remote weight equal to 1
[20:19] <TheSov> but i have no idea how it knows how those err 4
[20:19] <TheSov> how those are kept as seperate failure domains*
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[20:27] <TheSov> also when i add an ssd for say 5 osd. if that SSD fails does that mean i have to delete and re-add 5 OSDs?
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[20:31] <georgem> TheSov: for the last question read http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2014/11/27/ceph-recover-osds-after-ssd-journal-failure/
[20:32] <TheSov2> yes ive seen that and i have conceded that i will have to give the intern access to ceph in order to replace bad spinning disk. but this is a little complex for a high school graduate
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[20:34] <georgem> TheSov2: Ceph is pretty complex for most admins, so if you think you can just give an untrained person access to your data and sleep well???
[20:35] <TheSov2> well i havent gotten the intern yet, but i know my company will not be happy with me replacing disk
[20:37] <georgem> the intern can physically replace the disk, but you should leave the actual ceph operations to somebody who understands what's doing and how to troubleshoot if things don't work as expected
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[23:28] <sean_> does ceph have any plans to support bucket policies in S3/RGW?
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