#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-07-02

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

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[1:16] <harlequin> Hi all! Does anybody know why unflattened RBDs could be seen as garbage in VMs ?
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[8:55] <Be-El> hi
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[9:52] <harlequin> Hi all! We're experimenting with RBD cloning, and we're noticing in a consistent way that unflattened clones are seen as containing garbage from the VM's point of view. Has anybody experienced the same?
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[9:53] <harlequin> On the other hand, the same clone, once flattened, works perfectly.
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[12:35] <harlequin> Hi all! We're experimenting with RBD cloning, and we're noticing in a consistent way that unflattened clones are seen as containing garbage from the VM's point of view. Has anybody experienced the same?
[12:35] <Be-El> is it possible to flush the mds journal?
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[12:36] <harlequin> On the other hand, the same clone, once flattened, works perfectly.
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[13:45] <peem> Hi. I have a sort of general question : if I set up multiple rados gateways and then use DNS to load balance access to them (through multi-record domain) will that cause any problems or bear any caveats ?
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[14:45] <ska> feature set mismatch, my 2 < server's 42040002, missing 42040000
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[14:50] <doppelgrau> ska: new ceph version and older kernel?
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[14:51] <doppelgrau> ska: http://cephnotes.ksperis.com/blog/2014/01/21/feature-set-mismatch-error-on-ceph-kernel-client
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[14:56] <ska> http://git.io/vthXj dopplegrau, seems that way..
[14:56] <ska> Linux ceph-client 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.68-1+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:57] <ska> I had to downgrade to Debian7 because there were no hammer repos for Debian8
[14:57] <ska> I suppose I can try to upgrade the kernels.
[14:57] <doppelgrau> ska: IIRC backports had an 3.16 kernel
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[14:58] <ska> Or should I set tunables to legacy?
[14:58] <doppelgrau> ska: or compile your own, with make-kpkg you get easily a .deb to distribute
[14:58] <doppelgrau> ska: thats the other option
[14:59] <doppelgrau> but I think there had been so much development since 3.2 that an update is a good idea
[14:59] <ska> iok.. I'll start with backports
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[15:54] <Teduardo> Is there an automated way to stand up a ceph cluster yet?
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[15:57] <An_T_oine> Hi, do you know how can i get the "true" free space of a pool with 3 replicas ?
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[15:59] <doppelgrau> Teduardo: ceph-deploy, ceph-ansible (and I think there are modules fpr puppet and salt too)
[15:59] <Be-El> An_T_oine: ceph df lists the free space according to the replication factor / ec settings of pool
[16:00] <Be-El> An_T_oine: but i'm not sure whether it also uses the crush rulesets (e.g. different roots
[16:00] <doppelgrau> Be-El: no, it doesn???t
[16:00] <An_T_oine> Be-El yes but but i don't want to do some maths :)
[16:01] <Be-El> An_T_oine: just try the command... ;-)
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[16:02] <Be-El> doppelgrau: i would be a really cool feature. our cluster is somewhat heterogenous *cough* and i'm always fighting with single osd that are nearly full
[16:02] <An_T_oine> Be-El, thanks, it works like a charm :-p
[16:02] <doppelgrau> Be-El: I have a setup with a ssd-root and a platter-root and first cophy on SSD. The SSD-Root is about 11,5(TB), about 3,4TB are used and ceph df tells mee 10TB are free :)
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[16:03] <doppelgrau> Be-El: so it only works for ???normal??? crush-rules
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[16:05] <Be-El> doppelgrau: the host capacity varies between 10 t and 40t for our hosts. the default rulesets are misleading in the case, too
[16:07] <doppelgrau> ok, so ceph df works reliable in situations with default crush-rule and uniform servers :)
[16:08] <Teduardo> ah, i stood up a ceph cluster about 400 days ago and never used it for anything then i rebooted one of the osd nodes and none of the OSDs or anything started back up lol =)
[16:08] <Teduardo> wacky
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[16:09] <doppelgrau> Teduardo: then your setup is faulty, I can reboot nodes in the cluster and everything comes back online
[16:10] <Teduardo> thats very possible, dont you need to specify the osds somewhere so that the init.d script can find them when it reboots?
[16:10] <Teduardo> i just see this in my history form 400 days ago ceph-disk activate /dev/sdb1
[16:10] <doppelgrau> Teduardo: usually it???s done with udev-rules and special filesystem-Types
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[16:12] <Teduardo> im saying it looks like the init script is looking at /etc/ceph/ceph.conf to figure out if it should start a mon or osds, what have you.
[16:13] <doppelgrau> only the mons defined in the ceph.conf
[16:13] <doppelgrau> and the mds
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[16:13] <doppelgrau> the osds are started using magic ;) (udev)
[16:14] <Teduardo> okay, is there something that describes how to make the magic happen when the box reboots? (the mon also didn't start i had to do start ceph-mon id=node1
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[16:15] <doppelgrau> best think is the source of ceph-disk I think
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[16:19] <doppelgrau> Teduardo: or look at some scripts the automate these thinks (ansible/salt ..)
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[16:25] <Teduardo> maybe i will just rebuild the cluster with ubuntu 14 since it's probably super old and i will suffer consequences of that
[16:26] <doppelgrau> Teduardo: I would suggest using some sort of configuration management tool like ansible, makes it easier to keep everything in sync and perform updates
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[16:29] <georgem> Teduardo: read this http://dachary.org/?p=2428
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[16:45] <Teduardo> there are several ceph-ansibles listed in github, is one of them canonical?
[16:47] <doppelgrau> pick the one from ceph https://github.com/ceph/ceph-ansible
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[16:50] <Teduardo> thats weird according to that article you posted the osds should be starting when the box reboots as they are listed in /var/lib/ceph/osd
[16:50] <TheSov> i have a failing fibre channel device...great
[16:50] <Teduardo> is 0.80.9 too old?
[16:50] <TheSov> more the reason to switch to ceph in production
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[16:54] <Teduardo> oh, okay. i get it now, the init script actually doesn't do anything on my systems. thats very weird
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[17:06] <Teduardo> hmm, okay upstart seems to work to control the daemons but i dont know why it isnt starting them on boot.. whatever, this is too complicated=)
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[17:16] <Joe630> I like big disks and I cannot lie
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[17:32] <malevolent> hi there people!
[17:32] <malevolent> I've just installed three debian 8 servers and II have errors with ceph-deploy
[17:32] <malevolent> because it seems there are no package for jessie yet
[17:33] <malevolent> my question is, is possible to install it on debian 8 or is better to reinstall the machines with another OS (debian 7, Centos7)?
[17:34] <doppelgrau> malevolent: I???d choose debian 7 till packages are available
[17:35] <malevolent> doppelgrau: thank you.. .but debian 7 has 3.2 kernel, what do you do with that? Ceph devs suggest a higher kernel...
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[17:36] <malevolent> that's why I installed debian 8, because I readed kernel 3.16+ is recommended
[17:36] <doppelgrau> malevolent: I made a .deb with 4.1 using make-kpgg
[17:36] <doppelgrau> malevolent: or use backports, thy have 3.16 also
[17:37] <malevolent> oh ok, well, I should reinstall again then...
[17:37] <malevolent> thank you! ;)
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[17:38] <doppelgrau> malevolent: I recommend fai for lazy installing ;)
[17:40] <TheSov> wait what do you mean theres no package for jessie? arent you adding the ceph repos?
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[17:41] <doppelgrau> TheSov: http://ceph.com/debian-hammer/dists/ <- no jessie
[17:42] <TheSov> wtf. there seems to be a huge lack of interest in keeping the repos up to date
[17:42] <TheSov> theres no arm packages and this
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[17:42] <TheSov> or maybe its just a ignore debian thing from redhat...
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[17:49] <Teduardo> hmm so i got it starting the mon at boot
[17:49] <Teduardo> the osds still dont start on boot via upstart
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[17:54] <malevolent> doppelgrau: I didn't know fai xD it's like the poor man's theforeman
[17:55] <Teduardo> do you need to manually mount the partitions, like /dev/sdb1 -> /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-9 ?
[17:55] <doppelgrau> malevolent: looks like a good description :)
[17:55] <Teduardo> it seems like ceph-disk activate-all does nothing
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[17:57] <rlrevell> Teduardo: let me know if you solve this. i have one node where my OSDs refused to start on boot also. eventually i just gave up and put a ceph-disk activate in rc.local
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[18:02] <Teduardo> ah, mine aren't gpt
[18:02] <Teduardo> they're normal partitions, i guess it only works with gpt
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[18:04] <Teduardo> just for fun and since i have no data im going to re do them as gpt and see if that fixes it
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[18:07] <Be-El> Teduardo: if you have no gpt labels on the disk, you have to handle the partitions automatically. no gpt, no partition uuid, no udev
[18:08] <Teduardo> i think you mean that you have to handle them /manually/ without gpt
[18:09] <Be-El> eh...yes....too warm for thinking today
[18:10] <TheSov> is this the official ceph irc?
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[18:19] <Teduardo> ah, okay so i redid a drive as gpt and now it's telling me that the on disk fsid doesnt match when i go to activate the new drive.. hmm
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[18:30] <TheSov> do you guys keep your ceph-deploy machine around after your cluster is up and running?
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[18:35] <linuxkidd> TheSov, Yes... in order to deploy more OSDs, MONs, etc...
[18:35] <sean_> ^^
[18:35] <sean_> yup
[18:35] <TheSov> yeah i was thinking the same thing. but how easy is it to get it back
[18:36] <TheSov> lets say it dies
[18:36] <linuxkidd> you can re-create the contents as long as you remember what needs to be in there..
[18:36] <TheSov> do you just recopy the ssh keys and gatherkeys again?
[18:36] <linuxkidd> I'd advise just to make a backup on another machine for ease of transition
[18:36] <TheSov> isnt it the same to do that though?
[18:37] <linuxkidd> TheSov you'll also need to get the ceph.conf
[18:37] <TheSov> when you copy the ssh keys to the storage and monitor hosts
[18:37] <linuxkidd> but, otherwise, yes.. that's pretty much it
[18:37] <TheSov> wait doesnt gatherkeys get ceph.conf?
[18:37] <linuxkidd> not sure... it's typically in the directory and created by ceph-deploy new... so I don't think it does
[18:38] <TheSov> interesting
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[18:38] <TheSov> i can copy that from a monitor though
[18:39] <linuxkidd> yep
[18:39] <TheSov> do you guys build independant HA dns for ceph?
[18:39] <TheSov> or do you use normal company dns
[18:39] <linuxkidd> depends on the environment and it's use..
[18:40] <linuxkidd> if it's production I'd deploy my own DNS servers
[18:40] <linuxkidd> if it's a lab, I'd likely just use hosts file entries
[18:40] <linuxkidd> definitely wouldn't trust general corp IT dns servers.. but that's just me.. ;)
[18:41] <Teduardo> linuxkidd: thats a weird stance
[18:41] <linuxkidd> I've seen too many times when corp IT messes up DNS... delete records they don't think are required, botch syntax on an entry, etc..
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[18:43] <TheSov> i am building a small cluster in a corporate environment, they use windows dns. i dont want to depend on that
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[18:43] <Teduardo> i just used the hosts file on my 5 node cluster
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[18:43] <TheSov> at the same time i think it would be difficult to add the dns to all the clients to ceph
[18:43] <TheSov> Teduardo, thats the cluster, what about your clients?
[18:43] <darkfader> some forgotten dns servers for the ceph cluster are gonna be hell in a few years if you're not there ... but even hell > windows dns.
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[18:44] <TheSov> I'm trying to displace our san, and my boss was a little weirded out that we have to DNS the storage hosts
[18:45] <TheSov> just trying to get some ideas on what others have don
[18:45] <TheSov> e
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[18:46] <doppelgrau> TheSov: I don???t use DNS for the ceph-cluster
[18:46] <TheSov> how does your cluster work?
[18:46] <doppelgrau> TheSov: good :)
[18:46] <TheSov> no seriously
[18:47] <TheSov> did you just use Ip's?
[18:47] <doppelgrau> TheSov: mon-adresses and mds are in the ceph.conf which iis deployed on all hosts (including ???clients) using ansible
[18:47] <doppelgrau> TheSov: so I???m just using IPv6 IPs and no trouble till now (and allready changed mons two times)
[18:48] <TheSov> so you are basically adding to the hosts file?
[18:48] <doppelgrau> TheSov: If you do not have a good configuration management you might want want to put the mons and mds in dns so the clients don???t need to be updated if the IP of a mon changes
[18:49] <doppelgrau> TheSov: no, no host file, just plain IPs
[18:49] <TheSov> yes we have no config managment
[18:50] <TheSov> wait are all osd ip's also in ceph conf?
[18:50] <doppelgrau> no
[18:50] <doppelgrau> why should I put any ods IPs in the ceph.conf
[18:51] <TheSov> then how do your clients know how to connect to the osd's?
[18:51] <doppelgrau> TheSov: they ask the monitors
[18:51] <TheSov> so i just need dns for the monitors?
[18:52] <doppelgrau> TheSov: I would say yes, and that only for convinience
[18:52] <TheSov> ok i was under the impression that monitors passed on hostnames to the clients and the clients connected to them
[18:53] <TheSov> so i only need to dns the monitors, that will make this much easier
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[18:54] <TheSov> ok do the monitors need dns to the osds?
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[18:54] <doppelgrau> why should they?
[18:55] <TheSov> how do the monitors know the osd ip's?
[18:55] <doppelgrau> the osd connects to the monitor???
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[18:56] <doppelgrau> and if you would use dns, public or private network? ^^
[18:56] <Teduardo> if you are using like a 4x1GE port channel does it distribute data amongst the 4 nics or is it mostly just unicast?
[18:57] <Teduardo> i notice that when this thing is rebuilding/backfilling it's incorrectly marking things as being down
[18:57] <TheSov> i would assume its public
[18:57] <doppelgrau> Teduardo: depends on your IO patterns and the size of your cluster. Larger would mean more evenly distributed
[18:57] <TheSov> ok so next time i build a cluster i will use all IP's
[18:59] <doppelgrau> Teduardo: I use only two ports for LCAP and do not see the problem of host marked down. Do you have a good monitoring?
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[19:12] <TheSov> do you guys use ioping?
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[19:36] <Teduardo> now that i've redone all of my osds when i do ceph ospf tree it still shows the ones that i have deleted at the bottom is there some way to refresh that?
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[19:36] <doppelgrau> Teduardo: http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/add-or-rm-osds/#removing-osds-manual
[19:36] <Teduardo> err.. ceph osd tree
[19:38] <Teduardo> oh, hehe it takes 5 commands instead of 4 to remove an osd
[19:38] <Teduardo> good stuff
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[21:28] <ska> Can someone explain the different use case between a Ceph block device and a Ceph filesystem?
[21:30] <doppelgrau> filesystem=distributed possix-compatible filesystem, block-device=???bucket??? for own data/filesystems
[21:31] <doppelgrau> e.g. I use rbd fas backend for virtual servers and cephfs to store teir configuration
[21:33] <ska> doppelgrau: where is the cephfs created, on a client or on server?
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[21:35] <doppelgrau> ska: there are mds-server that stores the mapping of metadata to objects
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[21:37] <ska> Ah.. So cephfs can be faster since metadata has its own IO...?
[21:37] <ska> IO path..
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[21:49] <ska> http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/authentication/ is 404.. How can I make a secret key file?
[21:52] <ska> I see some docs on ceph-authtool
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[21:52] <doppelgrau> ska: usually slower I think, since you have additional latencys
[21:53] <doppelgrau> rbd all cann be computed on the client side and only IO had to be done
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[21:54] <doppelgrau> but you can access cephfs simultaniusly on different hosts, with rbd you???d need a cluster aware filesystem or get serius data corruption
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[21:58] <ska> mount -t ceph 10.87.208.146:6789:/ (how does it know that filesystem I have, what if I have multipl cephfs) ?
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[22:24] <ska> Only 1 cephfs per cluster..
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[22:46] <ska> ceph-conf only shows what is in my /ect/ceph/ceph.conf (which is very minimal). Is there a way to get it to spit out the full setup?
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