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IRC Log for 2015-06-02

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[0:11] <jiyer> Hi All,
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[0:11] <jiyer> A quick query about renaming an existing ceph cluster ? Is is possible/allowed ?
[0:13] <gleam> renaming?
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[0:15] <doppelgrau> jiyer: never tried, bu I guess it would involve lots of manual changes since the fsid is used in a lot of places (and I would guess the name too)
[0:17] <jiyer> Thanks ( gleam & doppelgrau). I was looking through the code, and it didn't look easy. i am justlooking at renaming an existing cluster to a new string, and leaving the fsid un-changed and other stuff unchanged
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[0:27] <doppelgrau> jiyer: might be easier, but no idea
[0:35] <TheSov> when activating an osd, do the disks need to be preformatted?
[0:35] <TheSov> or will ceph-deploy do it all
[0:35] <lurbs> ceph-deploy will do it.
[0:36] <TheSov> im getting a really strange error on one of my nodes
[0:36] <lurbs> Defaults to XFS (recommended), but you can override to be Btrfs/EXT4.
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[0:39] <lurbs> It also handles created partition tables, setting UUIDs, and the partitions themselves.
[0:39] <TheSov> lurbs, wow thats great. it seems that ceph deploy is a bit buggy
[0:39] <lurbs> s/created/creating/
[0:39] <TheSov> like on one of my debian systems it never completed the apt-get update.
[0:40] <TheSov> so it was erroring out during install
[0:40] <lurbs> Does a normal 'apt-get update' exit cleanly?
[0:40] <TheSov> yes
[0:40] <TheSov> i had to do it manually
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[0:40] <TheSov> and i used the ceph username to do
[0:40] <TheSov> it worked fine
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[0:41] <TheSov> since it didnt complete the update it installed an old ceph
[0:41] <TheSov> and it was f***ing sh** up
[0:42] <TheSov> in either case my next step is to script the entire deployment and then try to get TGT working
[0:42] <TheSov> is it recommended to keep the ceph-deploy system around for adding new nodes?
[0:43] <doppelgrau> TheSov: that seems the ???common usecase???, I use some ansible-Scripts for installation and updates
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[0:51] <derjohn_mob> Is it normal that a ceph cluster has "client io" 18kk/s while the recovery io is 300-400MB/s? I mean, the rbds are not accessible anymore.
[0:52] <doppelgrau> derjohn_mob: you can decrease the recovery-priorities
[0:52] <lurbs> derjohn_mob: The concurrency of backfills and recovery operations per OSD default to 10, which is in my opinion too high for (at least) spinning disks.
[0:52] <doppelgrau> derjohn_mob: that is so common, that there is a recent discussion on the maillinglist, if the defautls should be changed
[0:52] <lurbs> ceph tell osd.* injectargs '--osd-recovery-max-active 1'
[0:52] <lurbs> ceph tell osd.* injectargs '--osd-max-backfills 1'
[0:53] <lurbs> You can also, if you're using the CFQ scheduler, change the priority of the IO threads.
[0:54] <doppelgrau> ???osd recovery op priority??? and ???osd client op priority???
[0:55] <lurbs> Those commands only change the running config BTW, not saved. They'd also need to be added to ceph.conf.
[0:56] <derjohn_mob> Oh, so I leaver the client prio at 63 and recovery/backfill on 1 ? Currently it's set to 10 each. Makes the lowering to 1 a differnece? It's smaller than 63 anyways.
[0:56] <Nats> in my experience the priority is relatively unimportant compared to the recovery-max-active and max-backfills
[0:57] <derjohn_mob> Nats, what should I set recovery-max-active, if I want the clients to have somewhat working disk access?
[0:57] <doppelgrau> derjohn_mob: I use the priorities as an ???addon??? to the ???max???-Setting mentioned by Nats
[0:58] <Nats> derjohn_mob, imo they should always be set to 1 in production
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[0:58] <Nats> and only lift them temporarily if you really need to complete recovery sooner
[0:59] <derjohn_mob> osd recovery max active defaults to 15 ?
[0:59] <derjohn_mob> sounds like a difference
[1:00] <lurbs> 10, I think.
[1:00] <doppelgrau> I have ???osd recovery max active??? set to 2 and ???osd max backfills??? set to 1
[1:00] <Nats> the defaults are 15 for recovery max active, and 10 for max backfills
[1:01] <doppelgrau> since the clustter is (currently) relativly small I want recovery going a bit faster
[1:01] <Nats> re the CFQ thing, what you really want is to be able to configure the maximum throughput that all recovery operations can do on a particular disk
[1:01] <Nats> but i dont know if thats possible
[1:02] <derjohn_mob> hm, one of the osds doesn't want to acces the osd_recovery_max_active ... the injectargs 'hangs' on osd9 (of 20)
[1:02] <derjohn_mob> Is that also a sign of blocked io ?
[1:02] <Nats> yeah
[1:03] <derjohn_mob> s...t, so I cant inject the settings, that might rescue me :/
[1:03] <Nats> in a pinch you can update your ceph.conf and restart that osd
[1:03] <Nats> (and as above, you should update ceph.conf anyway so that the change is permanent)
[1:04] <derjohn_mob> yes, true. So, the "command" channel is also subject to the osd's thread / queue model ?
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[1:05] <Nats> its what i've seen in practice
[1:06] <Nats> having been in similar situation to you; 'commands' go into the same queue as regular i/o requests and so can block
[1:06] <Nats> or at least, externally thats how it appears
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[1:16] <derjohn_mob> my ceph conf uses underscores for the options like osd_journal, the docs say osd _space_ journal ... does ceph.conf support both formats the same time ?]
[1:17] <lurbs> Yep.
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[1:19] <derjohn_mob> even "mixed mode" ?
[1:19] <lurbs> Never tried that.
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[1:32] <Nats> ceph-deploy likes to 'flatten' it to underscore when pushing the config out
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[1:39] <CScrace> I am trying to deploy a ceph cluster and my monitors are not reaching a quorum. I can see traffic going between them on tcpdump but they don't seem to be responding to each other properly. My Logs are full of the same two lines over and over again:
[1:39] <CScrace> 2015-06-02 11:33:13.490723 7f795b17a700 0 log_channel(audit) log [DBG] : from='admin socket' entity='admin socket' cmd='mon_status' args=[]: dispatch
[1:39] <CScrace> 2015-06-02 11:33:13.490990 7f795b17a700 0 log_channel(audit) log [DBG] : from='admin socket' entity='admin socket' cmd=mon_status args=[]: finished
[1:39] <CScrace> Any suggestions?
[1:40] <CScrace> mon_status:
[1:40] <CScrace> {
[1:40] <CScrace> "name": "wcm1",
[1:40] <CScrace> "rank": 0,
[1:40] <CScrace> "state": "probing",
[1:40] <CScrace> "election_epoch": 1,
[1:40] <CScrace> "quorum": [],
[1:40] <CScrace> "outside_quorum": [
[1:41] <CScrace> "wcm1"
[1:41] <CScrace> ],
[1:41] <CScrace> "extra_probe_peers": [],
[1:41] <CScrace> "sync_provider": [],
[1:41] <CScrace> "monmap": {
[1:41] <CScrace> "epoch": 0,
[1:41] <CScrace> "fsid": "adb8c500-122e-49fd-9c1e-a99af7832307",
[1:41] <CScrace> "modified": "2015-06-02 10:43:41.467811",
[1:41] <CScrace> "created": "2015-06-02 10:43:41.467811",
[1:41] <CScrace> "mons": [
[1:41] <CScrace> {
[1:41] <CScrace> "rank": 0,
[1:41] <CScrace> "name": "wcm1",
[1:41] <CScrace> "addr": "10.1.226.64:6789\/0"
[1:41] <CScrace> },
[1:41] <CScrace> {
[1:41] <CScrace> "rank": 1,
[1:41] <CScrace> "name": "wcm2",
[1:41] <CScrace> "addr": "10.1.226.65:6789\/0"
[1:41] <CScrace> },
[1:41] <CScrace> {
[1:41] <CScrace> "rank": 2,
[1:41] <CScrace> "name": "wcm3",
[1:41] <CScrace> "addr": "10.1.226.66:6789\/0"
[1:41] <CScrace> }
[1:41] <CScrace> ]
[1:41] <CScrace> }
[1:41] <CScrace> }
[1:41] <CScrace> whoa, sorry :/
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[1:51] <derjohn_mob> Nats, I did set both options, but the osd in question is still not reactive in a way that it doesnt accept injected args, The client io is till near zero.
[1:51] <derjohn_mob> Nats, do you have any more ideas how to make it reactive again?
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[2:37] <doppelgrau> derjohn_mob: have you restarted the osd?
[2:38] <doppelgrau> service ceph restart osd.<id>
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[3:24] <jidar> finally got my repo issue resolved
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[7:19] <CScrace> I keep getting monitor probe timeouts, but I can see traffic going back and forth via tcpdump. Any suggestions?
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[9:57] <anorak> hi
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[10:13] <derjohn_mob> doppelgrau, Nats , lurbs : BIG thx for your support. The ceph is in good shape again. Surprisingly things git better after upgraging all nodes from 0.87.1-1trusty to 0.87.2-1trusty AND restarting all mon and mds services. And I switched to cfq + ?osd recovery op priority? and ?osd client op priority? (but only after restarting mds+mon).
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[14:08] <roland_> To who it may concern>: I have used ceph-deploy, but I got complaints that it has overwritten completely the sudoers file, not simply appended to it.
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[14:11] <roland_> Apart from that, ceph-deploy is useless on my distro anyway, because there are no pre-compiles packages for it. My distro is Fedora 21 by the way.
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[14:18] <rotbeard> anyone here using areca 1883ix controllers in jbod mode + having performance issues when fireing data on more than 1 disk? e.g. backfilling or journal writes. I see about 50k iops while random writing to a SSD, but only 300-400 iops while writing to 1 SSD and 1 HDD
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[14:41] <alfredodeza> roland_: ceph-deploy doesn't touch the sudoers file, not sure what else is going on, a paste with a full output would be useful
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[18:58] <JohnPreston78> Hey guys
[18:59] <JohnPreston78> I have been doing some tests recently with CEPH. Getting great IOps and bandwidth. But I was curious to understand / know what sets the IO latency performances.
[19:00] <JohnPreston78> ie : when doing not much, I have ~700 us and when I run FIO, I am 1.1 ms average. The question is : how can I keep my IO latency below 1 ms with CEPH ?
[19:01] <JohnPreston78> use-case is : CEPH used for virtio-disks
[19:01] <s3an2> JohnPreston78: Does your network
[19:01] <JohnPreston78> s3an2: network is 10Gbps
[19:04] <JohnPreston78> no SSD for the journal but a dedicated disk for it though
[19:04] <JohnPreston78> smaller than the OSD but heh
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[19:10] <JohnPreston78> any idea ?
[19:12] <daviddcc> JohnPreston78, you get to keep this latency for several minutes ?
[19:12] <JohnPreston78> Yes, my fio is against a 16G file so it takes a bit of time
[19:12] <JohnPreston78> good point is that the latency is very stable - continously 1.1 / 1.2 ms
[19:13] <daviddcc> Without ssd ? (whaou)
[19:13] <JohnPreston78> I am curious to know what in CEPH drives / impacts the IO latency
[19:13] <JohnPreston78> yes, without SSD
[19:13] <daviddcc> without raid ?
[19:13] <JohnPreston78> I go up to 500 Mo/s
[19:13] <JohnPreston78> easily
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[19:13] <daviddcc> --bs ?
[19:13] <JohnPreston78> but that is different from latency
[19:13] <JohnPreston78> bs is 4k (default)
[19:14] <JohnPreston78> and the underlying network has MTU 9000 anyway (used to do quite a lot of iSCSI there)
[19:14] <daviddcc> drive cache ?
[19:14] <JohnPreston78> at what level for the cache ? On the disk controller ?
[19:14] <daviddcc> yes
[19:15] <JohnPreston78> I think it is enabled but no idea how I had it set
[19:15] <JohnPreston78> each OSD is a RAW disk
[19:15] <JohnPreston78> like, no RAID at all
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[19:15] <daviddcc> --direct=1 on fio ?
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[19:16] <JohnPreston78> yeah
[19:16] <daviddcc> sync interval for filestore ?
[19:16] <JohnPreston78> fio --randrepeat=1 --ioengine=libaio --direct=1 --gtod_reduce=1 --name=test --filename=test_fio.raw --bs=4k --size=16G --readwrite=randrw --rwmixread=75
[19:17] <JohnPreston78> that's for reference
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[19:18] <JohnPreston78> daviddcc: how can I see that ? I have not had yet the chance to get "intimate" with my CEPH config :D
[19:19] <daviddcc> ceph daemon osd.<number> config show |grep "filestore_max_sync_interval
[19:19] <JohnPreston78> I do need to get a 4th round with the doc to understand it all better but yeah
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[19:20] <JohnPreston78> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VkSQolmX/
[19:20] * JohnPreston78 googles what this value is for
[19:20] <daviddcc> 5 min
[19:21] <daviddcc> (default)
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[19:23] <daviddcc> JohnPreston78, 78 : Yvelines ?
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[19:24] <JohnPreston78> daviddcc: Mouahaha va y avoir 2 mecs sur terre qui trainent dans ce chan :D
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[19:24] <daviddcc> ^^
[19:24] <JohnPreston78> On fait tous des erreurs a 11 ans mouhaha
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[20:52] <philibar> Hey, beginner's question which I was unable to find the info for, when running #ceph osd stat, I get "osdmap e152: 67 osds 45 up, 45 in. What does "e152" stand for? Thank you.
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[20:55] <daviddcc> philibar, osdmap version
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[20:57] <rkeene> Yeah, "e" stands for "epoch"
[20:58] <daviddcc> Voil? :)
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[21:01] <philibar> ha! Thank you/merci!
[21:01] <rkeene> The real question is... where did all your OSDs go ? :-(
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[21:06] <philibar> Test deployements, had some issues in the deployement, fixed now, thanks for worries though :)
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[22:07] <tw0fish> anyone noticed that the ceph-radosgw script likes to start when you give it an rgw socket, but not an rgw front end?
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[22:08] <tw0fish> everytime i give it just an rgw front end it craps out giving me this : Failed to start LSB: radosgw RESTful rados gateway.
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[22:49] <debian112> what disk controller is recommend: HBA or RAID with RAID0s on each disk
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[22:50] <georgem1> debian112: HBA
[22:50] <debian112> georgem1 what about the OS drives?
[22:50] <debian112> I will like to have RAID 1
[22:51] <debian112> on those two
[22:52] <georgem1> yes, RAID 1 on the OS drives so you don't bring down a lot of OSDs because a single failed OS drive
[22:53] <debian112> so that means I would need another controller for OS, or software RAID?
[22:53] <gleam> up to you. software raid is fine, i'd say
[22:54] <georgem1> yes, the operating system doesn't have much IO on it own
[22:54] <georgem1> debian112: i recommend you watch this also: https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/summit-videos/presentation/building-your-first-ceph-cluster-for-openstack-fighting-for-performance-solving-tradeoffs
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