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IRC Log for 2015-05-27

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[2:28] <cmdrk> gregsfortytwo: thanks! i'm noticing (with 6TB disks anyhow), it's something like 2GB virt and ~1GB resident.. we have some boxes we want to migrate from [another storage platform], but have something like six shelves of 15 disks with a measly 48GB of RAM.. all things considered, I think we might have to harvest some more machines to handle the shelves... OTOH, we'd have something like 4PB of Ceph storage at that point :)
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[2:57] <[arx]> where should i start to poke at if I/O to an rbd image stops when deleting files on it? using the rbd kernel module in centos7 to mount the image
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[2:59] <[arx]> i can repeatedly get i/o to stop by: rsync -a /usr/ /mount/usr/; rm -r /mount/usr/
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[3:03] <m0zes> [arx]: perhaps debug logs on the client, although I am not advanced enough to interpret them. echo module ceph +p > /sys/kernel/debug/dynamic_debug/control
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[3:06] <m0zes> or would that be echo module rbd +p > /sys/kernel/debug/dynamic_debug/control
[3:06] <[arx]> that causes the client to print to dmesg or elsewhere?
[3:07] <m0zes> dmesg or syslog
[3:07] <m0zes> s/or/and/
[3:08] <[arx]> ok, thanks.
[3:09] * m0zes has only had to debug cephfs things. not rbd :D
[3:09] <[arx]> yea, the echo module rbd got me info :D
[3:10] <m0zes> I guess that is a place to start, then
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[3:11] <m0zes> 'echo module rbd -p > /sys/kernel/debug/dynamic_debug/control' will turn it off when you're done
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[3:11] <m0zes> or at least should :)
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[3:50] <circ-user-yB677> Hi everyone. I'm playing around with ceph rados gateway, my setup consists of 10 drives (4TB spinning), 1GiB network and I tend to write around 1,5 to 2k small files (4kb or less) a second. At this point writes start failing and reads are queued for a long time. I know for sure that setup is not ideal - 4 drives lack dedicated journal and probably this is one of the bottlenecks. Can somebody confirm my theory? Also in case I want to push journals i
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[4:44] <[arx]> m0zes: seems to only happens with a image that isn't partitioned, formatted with ext4. when i partition it, everything works fine
[4:45] <m0zes> [arx]: that is strange. I wouldn't expect that to take a special codepath.
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[4:50] <[arx]> didn't seem to happen when i formatted it with xfs or btrfs. so it might not be a ceph problem.
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[4:53] <m0zes> if it doesn't happen with other filesystems, it makes it more unlikely that it is a ceph problem, but I also have a hard time believing that a project as mature as ext4 would have issues "raw" (unpartitioned) disks.
[4:53] <m0zes> I guess there could be a very strange interplay there.
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[5:01] <[arx]> yea, i am still messing with it, trying to pinpoint it, but i have to sleep now. :x
[5:02] <m0zes> well, if you pin it down, send a note off to the ceph-users mailing list. perhaps someone else has seen a similar issue, or they might have more debugging insight.
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[5:46] <a_m_b> any idea how you can force a re-create on an incomplete pg? ceph pg force_create_pg just sits with the pg in 'creating' for hours on end
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[5:47] <a_m_b> I have a pg that was part of a pool with replica copy set to 1, we lost a OSD and recreated all the missing pgs, while that was happening, we set replica to 2 and it re-created one of the missing pgs on a failing disk
[5:47] <a_m_b> so now it wants to copy data from osd.121 (failed) to osd.34 and osd.131, but it will never complete since 121 is bad (and since has been removed from the crushmap to be replaced)
[5:50] <a_m_b> it's a very similar problem to http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2014-December/045608.html
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[6:41] <a_m_b> nm, I just blew the pool away and recreated it. It's something that seems to be a case that there's no recovery from right now
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[7:54] <jidar> hey guys, does using Ceph storage nodes allow for Cinder style bootable volumes or does that require CephFS?
[7:54] <jidar> (using openstack of course)
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[8:09] <SamYaple> jidar: cinder used rbd, not cephfs
[8:10] <SamYaple> the docs are very detailed on how to setup cinder/glance/nova with ceph jidar
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[8:45] <jidar> still trying to wrap my head around some stuff, thank you!
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[9:56] <emik0> hello! any info on debian packages? currently ceph-deploy attemts to install sid packages on stable, but there are no sid packages for hammer =(
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[14:07] <ceph_newbie> hello
[14:09] <ceph_newbie> I would like to setup a lab to try ceph, and I would like to use two servers as osd and one machine as mom and mds. It would be possible?
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[15:12] <Vivek> Hi
[15:13] <Vivek> loicd: Are you there ?
[15:13] <loicd> Vivek: hi !
[15:13] <Vivek> loicd: Can you spare a few minutes of your precious time for me ?
[15:14] <loicd> what is it about ?
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[15:15] <Vivek> This is a simple question which has risen out of some queries that my company's testing team have about 2 ceph clusters I have setup each is a 4 node cluster with 3 mons each. The first cluster is 78 TB and the second cluster is around 48 TB.
[15:16] <Vivek> One of the clusters is integrated with OpenStack Juno release.
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[15:16] <Vivek> It is on this node that the testers have launched some vms.
[15:16] <Vivek> And they are checking the space utilized with ceph df
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[15:17] <Vivek> Say if a vm of 10 GB is launched, the ceph df shows a value like say 3 mb or 5 mb.
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[15:18] <Vivek> And now they are claiming that the ceph is not setup properly and there is no way to view the actual vm/file size on Ceph.
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[15:19] <Vivek> This might seem basic but I am not abel to convince the testers that the cluster is fine.
[15:20] <Vivek> I am trying to convince them that data replication is entirely algorithmic
[15:20] <Vivek> But I don't know they are not getting convinced.
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[15:23] <Vivek> loicd: Does ceph have a way to check the exact file size which is placed into it ?
[15:23] <loicd> Vivek: you can tell them RBD volumes are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_provisioning
[15:24] <Vivek> Yes, I have told them that.
[15:24] <loicd> and http://ceph.com/planet/real-size-of-a-ceph-rbd-image/
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[15:25] <loicd> and http://ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd/
[15:25] <loicd> Vivek: and if they are not convinced then I think there is nothing else to be done
[15:25] <Vivek> Now another test that they are doing is say we have a vm of 10 gb thinly provisoned and say it shows 5 mb in the ceph vm pool. They wil create a file of day 5 GB and check if a corresponding 5 GB file change in ceph df vm pool.
[15:26] <Vivek> Is it possible to check this scenario ?
[15:26] <Vivek> loicd: ok.
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[15:26] <Vivek> Thanks for the pointers.
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[15:34] <Vivek> Hi fghaas
[15:34] <Vivek> ltns
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[15:53] <scuttlemonkey> Just as a reminder. This month's Ceph Tech Talk will be today @1p EDT (in about 3 hours) via the BlueJeans telecon system
[15:53] <scuttlemonkey> To join use this link: https://bluejeans.com/172084437
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[16:09] <Vivek> scuttlemonkey: Will there be a recording of this available ?
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[16:17] <scuttlemonkey> Vivek: yes, all of these go up on youtube after
[16:17] <scuttlemonkey> http://ceph.com/ceph-tech-talks/
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[16:21] <tuxcraft1r> Err http://eu.ceph.com jessie/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 2a00:f10:121:400:48c:baff:fe00:477 80]
[16:21] <tuxcraft1r> ^something may be wrong with ip6 and ceph archive
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[16:23] <tuxcraft1r> never mind...
[16:23] <tuxcraft1r> my bad
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[16:30] <tuxcraft1r> http://eu.ceph.com/debian-last/dists/ < why is debian stable (jessie) not in the list?
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[16:32] <tuxcraft1r> https://packages.debian.org/jessie/ceph < should i just use this
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[16:34] <smerz> jessie just released. i guess that's why
[16:34] <smerz> well let's just say it's fairly recent
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[17:06] <Vivek> scuttlemonkey: Thanks.
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[18:47] <scuttlemonkey> ceph tech talk on placement groups starting in ~15m: https://bluejeans.com/172084437
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[20:29] <peem> hi. Is it possible to create single node ceph storage ? I need to test ceph against swift/cinder for internal documentation of best practices and strugling a bit with it on a single test machine I have available..
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[20:49] <JoeJulian> peem Sure. You'll just have to set the pool size to 1 for your pools.
[20:50] <peem> JoeJulian: ok, will give it a try. running some commands through ceph-deploy now.
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[21:19] <debian112> hey anyone using sata HDD for OS, or is everyone using SSD
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[21:45] <georgem> debian112: do you mean for the operating system? it doesn't really matter, but you should probably have it redundant (e.g RAID1)
[21:45] <debian112> yeah for OS
[21:45] <debian112> I figure most of the stuff will get loaded in ram
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