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IRC Log for 2015-05-23

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[1:30] <alnux> hi
[1:31] <alnux> i have a ceph cluster
[1:31] <alnux> with tow monitors
[1:31] <alnux> now onw of the monitors is strugling
[1:31] <alnux> it keeps reading from disk at full speed
[1:32] <alnux> so it keeps getting in and out of the quorum
[1:32] <alnux> any idea why it needs to read from disk at ~80MB/s?
[1:34] <alnux> also issueing "ceph daemon mon.monitor01 mon_status" takes for ever
[1:34] <alnux> cpu and mem utilization are not that high
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[2:17] <rkeene> alnux, ceph watch might be helpful
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[2:47] <alnux> i ll try ceph watch
[2:47] <alnux> but i dout it ll connect
[2:47] <alnux> as the quorum is not established
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[4:21] <tomc> I hope someone is here who can help??? I???ve lost my mon cluster
[4:21] <tomc> and cannot get it back
[4:22] <tomc> I had a couple OSDs get erroneously marked down??? and then bam, all 5 mons went down
[4:22] <tomc> and they can???t seem to reform a quorum
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[4:23] <tomc> I see that all 5 of them are calling for elections, it appears mon0 is winning the election
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[4:23] <tomc> but then 10 seconds later it calls for a fresh election
[4:29] <rkeene> That sounds terrible.
[4:29] <tomc> yes...
[4:29] <tomc> its super bad
[4:30] <rkeene> Unfortunately, I have no idea what I'd do there... maybe kick mon.0 and 1 out?
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[4:33] <tomc> I???ve tried restarting each mon in sequence, then I tried rebooting each mon in sequence, then I tried just running 3 mons (maybe should have tried that first???) but everything I???ve tried so far results in the same behavior
[4:34] <rkeene> Which 3 mons ?
[4:36] <tomc> 0,1,2
[4:37] <rkeene> What if you leave 0 out of it ?
[4:38] <tomc> then mon1 starts winning elections
[4:38] <tomc> but??? same behavior
[4:38] <tomc> new election every 10 seconds
[4:39] <tomc> I???ve been running various ceph clusters for almost 2 years..
[4:40] <tomc> I???ve never seen anything like this
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[4:44] <rkeene> Any info if you turn the debugging up ?
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[5:39] <Kingrat> tomc, do you have ntp set up? can you upload some mon.X logs to pastebin
[5:39] <tomc> yes I have ntp setup
[5:41] <tomc> looks like it was leveldb???.
[5:41] <tomc> turned on compact on start
[5:42] <tomc> restarted, and life is happier
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[9:19] <loicd> shylesh: hi
[9:20] <shylesh> loicd: I have an LRC pool with k=4,m=2 and l=3
[9:20] <shylesh> 7 osds
[9:20] <shylesh> but PGs are mapped to 8 osds with a NONE in the set
[9:20] <loicd> shylesh: could you paste2.org the log of what you're doing ? I suspect it's not using the pool you intended
[9:20] <shylesh> loicd: k
[9:21] * loicd checks locally
[9:21] <loicd> I don't remember what's the min size on LRC pools
[9:22] * loicd needs a coffee ;-)
[9:23] <shylesh> loicd: http://paste2.org/mAwj36wD
[9:24] * loicd reading
[9:31] <loicd> shylesh: my bad, I thought the min_size was 8 by default but it is 4
[9:31] <loicd> pool 1 'pool-lrc' erasure size 8 min_size 4
[9:31] <loicd> as per ceph osd dump
[9:31] <loicd> with k=4 it means you can recover the object with just 4 chunks, therefore it is the correct min_size
[9:32] <loicd> shylesh: I remember the settings being more conservative by default (i.e. min_size = size = 8).
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[9:32] <loicd> but I was wrong
[9:34] <shylesh> loicd: then how I/O is succeeding..?
[9:34] <shylesh> loicd: Oh because it satisfies min_size ?
[9:34] <loicd> yes
[9:34] <loicd> IO succeed on replicated / erasure coded pool if the number of OSD in the PG is >= min_size
[9:35] <shylesh> loicd: ok.. so if there is a hole then which chunk will not be placed ?? i.e. since one osd missing there should be a chunk which is not written ?
[9:35] <shylesh> am i right ?
[9:35] <loicd> yes
[9:36] <shylesh> given an order [osd0, osd1,...osd8] can we find out which one has data and which one has code ?
[9:37] <shylesh> loicd: I want to see where these LRC chunk goes
[9:37] <loicd> I think you can
[9:37] <loicd> let me check the logs
[9:42] <loicd> shylesh: https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/hammer/src/test/erasure-code/TestErasureCodeLrc.cc#L199
[9:42] <loicd> shylesh: it means the data chunks are 0,1,3,4 (first layer)
[9:43] <loicd> sorry
[9:43] <loicd> shylesh: it means the data chunks are 0,1,4,5 (first layer)
[9:44] <shylesh> loicd: 2,6 coding i.e global parity right ?
[9:44] <loicd> yes
[9:44] <loicd> and the local chunks are 3 (second layer) and 7 (third layer)
[9:44] <shylesh> loicd: got it ..:)
[9:45] <loicd> I'm impressed. Very few people took the time to figure that internal layout :-)
[9:45] <shylesh> so at each level for doing parity calculation it uses jerasure ??
[9:45] <loicd> shylesh: yes
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[9:46] <loicd> in [ \"____DDDc\", \"\" ] the second string being empty, it defaults to jerasure
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[9:46] <shylesh> ok.. so if user wants he can plugin some other libs as well right ??
[9:47] <loicd> yes
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[9:47] <loicd> in [ \"____DDDc\", \"plugin=isa\" ] would be a plausible example
[9:47] <shylesh> how to dump this coding pattern for a given profile ??
[9:49] <loicd> shylesh: grep the logs of the primary osd for 'ErasureCodeLrc: init'
[9:49] <shylesh> loicd: ok
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[9:51] <loicd> shylesh: I have a series of pull requests at https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pulls/dachary that improve the display of erasure code profiles. But the LRC mapping is not displayed when k,m,l is used: it is considered an internal detail that the user did not want to know.
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[9:52] <loicd> shylesh: note that the debug level to display the ErasureCodeLrc: init message is --debug-osd >= 10
[9:52] <shylesh> ha ha .. that why
[9:52] <shylesh> loicd: None of the osds were showing
[9:53] <shylesh> that pattern
[9:53] <shylesh> loicd: I added one more osd but still some of the pgs are mapped like this 11.a 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 active+undersized+degraded 2015-05-23 03:42:12.355816 0'0 4569:79 [1,0,6,5,NONE,3,7,2] 1 [1,0,6,5,NONE,3,7,2] 1 0'0 2015-05-21 03:37:24.438686 0'0 2015-05-21 03:37:24.438686
[9:54] <loicd> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/hammer/src/erasure-code/lrc/ErasureCodeLrc.cc#L503
[9:55] <loicd> shylesh: that's because crush placement does not explore all possible possibilities
[9:55] <shylesh> loicd: and it ll exhaust after 50 attempts or so ??
[9:55] <loicd> shylesh: yes. It's higher for the erasure coded pools though but it's the same problem.
[9:56] <shylesh> :P
[9:56] <shylesh> loicd: so shall i add more osds?
[9:56] <loicd> or increase the number of tries until it works, as you prefer
[9:56] <shylesh> loicd: ok
[9:58] <loicd> shylesh: http://paste2.org/8XLZvA4w
[9:58] <loicd> it's 100 by default for erasure-coded pools
[9:59] <shylesh> ok
[10:01] <loicd> shylesh: when testing I prefer to add two more OSDs to the desired size and in my experience, combined with the default number of tries, it is enough to not have undersized PGs
[10:01] <shylesh> loicd: ya sure
[10:01] <shylesh> loicd: I will add 2 more osds
[10:02] <loicd> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/hammer/src/test/erasure-code/test-erasure-code.sh#L36
[10:02] <loicd> it creates 11
[10:03] <shylesh> loicd: oh k
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[10:09] <shylesh> loicd: for 10 osds its clean now
[10:09] <loicd> shylesh: cool
[10:10] <loicd> shylesh: you know about ceph_objecstore_tool, right ?
[10:10] <shylesh> loicd: so now that new osd filled the hole i expect that chunk should be rebuilt and should be present there ?
[10:10] <shylesh> loicd: nope
[10:10] <shylesh> loicd: I have to work on that ..
[10:11] <loicd> ah, it will be useful to you if you're trying to verify which OSD contains what
[10:11] <shylesh> oh k .. will it work for downstream ??
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[20:31] -coulomb.oftc.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
[20:31] -coulomb.oftc.net- *** Checking Ident
[20:31] -coulomb.oftc.net- *** Couldn't look up your hostname
[20:31] -coulomb.oftc.net- *** No Ident response
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[20:31] * Topic is 'CDS Schedule Posted: http://goo.gl/i72wN8 || http://ceph.com/get || dev channel #ceph-devel || test lab channel #sepia'
[20:31] * Set by scuttlemonkey!~scuttle@nat-pool-rdu-t.redhat.com on Mon Mar 02 21:13:33 CET 2015
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[22:01] <loicd> hum
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[22:02] <loicd> shaunm: I would list all objects, them map them, then keep the ones that are in the PG. It's not efficient but that's a way. For tests that might be just what you need ?
[22:02] <loicd> dam, I meant shylesh, but he is gone. Sorry for the noise shaunm :-D
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