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IRC Log for 2015-05-21

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[0:01] <RodrigoUSA> monmaptool --rm ceph-mon2 --clobber /tmp/monmap
[0:01] <RodrigoUSA> ;)
[0:04] <Anticimex> sage: excellent review of the security status. missing dalgaaf in the rooms here
[0:06] <RodrigoUSA> mon/AuthMonitor.cc: 101: FAILED assert :/
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[0:08] <rkeene> Anticimex, This video reminds me of why I hate OpenStack
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[0:10] <Anticimex> i have noted your hatred :)
[0:10] <rkeene> I setup Ceph pools one time in OpenNebula, as a datastore -- it's used by all the "components" automatically when they try to get things from that datastore
[0:10] <Anticimex> openstack had very little to do with this
[0:11] <Anticimex> yeah, so you have 0 segregation, which wouldn't fly for DTAG ;)
[0:11] <rkeene> I mean setting up Cinder, Glance, etc to talk to Ceph
[0:11] <rkeene> What makes you think I have no segregation ?
[0:11] <Anticimex> ah, misread 'pools'
[0:11] <rkeene> I have an extremely high degree of segregation
[0:12] <Anticimex> so you have auth per pool, at best, since that's what ceph gives you
[0:12] <Anticimex> ok
[0:12] <Anticimex> yet one public network, right?
[0:12] <rkeene> No, many different networks
[0:12] <Anticimex> ok
[0:12] <rkeene> OpenNebula has the concept of VDCs which isolate which resources a group of groups can use
[0:12] <rkeene> So each "tenant" gets a VDC, which they get access to their resources
[0:13] <Anticimex> can any of your customers send ip packets to ceph daemons?
[0:13] <rkeene> (Datastores, Networks, Hosts)
[0:13] <rkeene> No
[0:13] <Anticimex> ack
[0:13] <Anticimex> good start :-)
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[0:14] <rkeene> Ceph lives on an unrouted VLAN (probably using the same IPs as other people on the network), and the compute nodes talk to it
[0:15] <Anticimex> so all customer access is through proxy of some sort, including eg kvm etc?
[0:15] <rkeene> The customer VMs get their own Linux bridges, which can't talk to the hypervisor
[0:16] <rkeene> (One bridge per VLAN == one bridge per customer network)
[0:17] <rkeene> (Also use seccomp and a MAC to mitigate issues with QEMU.. not perfect, but better than nothing)
[0:17] <Anticimex> svirt?
[0:17] <rkeene> No, not using SELinux
[0:17] <Anticimex> we're on selinx/svirt boat
[0:17] <Anticimex> ack
[0:18] <Anticimex> *selinux
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[0:18] <Anticimex> svirt caught venom
[0:19] <rkeene> seccomp helped with VENOM too, to a degree -- but since QEMU must be able to talk to Ceph, a compromised QEMU could ... still talk to Ceph (with seccomp and with sVirt)
[0:20] <Anticimex> ah, built directly with librados - right
[0:21] <Anticimex> on my list to santa is rbd-granularity for access keys
[0:21] <Anticimex> not sure if current structure even allows for that
[0:21] <Anticimex> in the end few things impossible with code otoh
[0:27] <rkeene> I also get rid of the "ptrace" syscall, but that may be of limited benefit -- just a hardening attempt
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[0:37] <kklimonda> hey, I'm trying to run some benchmarks on ceph in our environment, first one is for 1 OSD, replication set to 1
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[0:38] <kklimonda> I have all PGs stuck in "creating" state
[0:38] <kklimonda> how can I debug it?
[0:39] <RodrigoUSA> I fix my issue, I graduate as a ceph troubleshooter hahaha ;D
[0:41] <Anticimex> rkeene: one of my colleagues is the selinux expert, he traces syscalls and throws away what isn't used some times. requires extensive testing of course :)
[0:42] <RodrigoUSA> if someone have an issue adding a new mon then something happends then ended with first mon fucked up, run the following commands: ceph-mon -i admin --extract-monmap /tmp/monmap
[0:42] <RodrigoUSA> stop ceph-mon-all
[0:42] <RodrigoUSA> monmaptool --rm ceph-mon2 --clobber /tmp/monmap
[0:42] <RodrigoUSA> ceph-mon -i admin --inject-monmap /tmp/monmap
[0:42] <RodrigoUSA> start ceph-mon-all ; tail /var/log/ceph/ceph-mon.* -f
[0:42] <RodrigoUSA> :D
[0:43] <rkeene> Anticimex, I meant I make the syscall do nothing, not block it with the MAC system (which also seems fine)
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[0:44] <Anticimex> ok
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[8:38] <alessandro> Question on OpenStack on Ceph: For Copy on Write between Glance and Nova do they need to be run in a shared pool?
[8:38] <alessandro> or can i have different pools for either?
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[8:40] <joshd> alessandro: different pools are fine (as shown in http://ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/)
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[8:41] <alessandro> joshd: to be a little more explicit: by copy on write I mean that no copying of the image from glance is needed.
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[8:43] <alessandro> joshd: I read that Entry a while ago but i havent explicitly found anything on that in particular.
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[8:44] <joshd> alessandro: yes, copy-on-write in ceph has always worked across pools
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[8:46] <alessandro> joshd: thanks!
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[9:02] <alessandro> Cardinals1
[9:02] <alessandro> Yay
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[9:07] <Be-El> hi
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[9:12] <anorak> hi
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[9:30] <T1w> pdrakeweb: fix your connection!
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[10:42] <kblin> morning folks
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[10:46] <kblin> I'm trying to run a ceph cluster with cephx authentication, but I can't get cephfs to mount, I always get a mount error 1
[10:46] <kblin> that is "operation not permitted
[10:48] <kblin> any hint on how to debug this?
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[10:55] <kblin> ceph-fuse seems to work fine, but I'd expect that to be much slower than the in-kernel fs
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[11:30] <Be-El> kblin: what's in the kernel log?
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[11:49] <kblin> libceph: auth method 'x' error -1
[11:50] <Be-El> do you specify the key to use for authentication?
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[11:54] <kblin> Be-El: yes, I grabbedd the key from /etc/ceph/ceph.client.admin.keyring and copied it into a new file
[11:54] <kblin> so, all by itself, without the ini-file surroundings
[11:55] <kblin> and then called mount -t ceph server:6789:/ /ceph -o secretfile=/etc/ceph/admin.secret
[11:57] <kblin> one of the examples also specifies a user=admin for these options, but I'm unclear where that username would come from
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[11:58] <Be-El> kblin: it's the name of the client.X entry in the keyring file
[11:58] <Be-El> well, i'm off for lunch
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[11:59] <kblin> ah
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[12:00] <kblin> Be-El: I guess my brain wasn't quite awake this morning. that of course does the trick
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[12:29] <dmn> Hi, I'm trying to install ceph on my server and the design is - one server acting as the admin node and the other server acting as a monitor and two osd nodes. I followed the tutorial given here - http://ceph.com/docs/master/start/quick-start-preflight/ and everything worked well. But when I run ceph -w I get this - http://pastebin.com/L5xJxsBd, which goes on and on.
[12:29] <dmn> what should I do?
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[12:32] <theanalyst> dmn: I'm assuming you haven't installed/started osds yet? Have you followed creating a cluster steps as well
[12:32] <theanalyst> dmn: http://ceph.com/docs/master/start/quick-ceph-deploy/
[12:32] <dmn> theanalyst, yep
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[12:33] <dmn> I mean, I've followed the steps in creating a cluster
[12:33] <dmn> and also I've started osds
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[12:50] <anorak> dmn: what happens when you issue the command "ceph osd tree" ?
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[12:56] <dmn> anorak, same kind of output as this - http://pastebin.com/L5xJxsBd
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[13:27] <Be-El> re
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[13:35] <anorak> dmn: strange. which OS is it?
[13:35] <dmn> anorak, centos
[13:35] <dmn> 6.6
[13:36] <anorak> hmmm. and you installed ceph using "ceph-depploy"?
[13:37] <anorak> deploy*
[13:38] <dmn> yep
[13:39] <anorak> strange. can you check ceph logs? perhaps a clue there ...
[13:40] <dmn> anorak: http://ceph.com/docs/master/start/quick-start-preflight/#open-required-ports - this should be performed where? on the admin node or the ceph node?
[13:41] <anorak> usually on monitors and osd nodes
[13:41] <dmn> and the ip-address should be of the admin node or the ceph node?
[13:42] <anorak> but it would be worth to disable the firewall and reboot the cluster just to be sure that it is not a wild goose chase :)
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[13:46] <dmn> anorak, ceph health should be run on admin node or osd/monitor nodes?
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[13:47] <mich123> Hello, I installed ceph hammer with ceph deploy. Everything worked fine but when I do a ceph osd lspools I get only one pool 0 rbd, Is this a normal behavior? I red something in the ceph doc that you have 3 standard pools (rbd, data, metadata)
[13:48] <Be-El> mich123: that used to be the case in the former releases. with giant or hammer the default pools for cephfs are not automatically created anymore
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[13:49] <mich123> hm ok
[13:49] <mich123> so I don't need them anymore?
[13:50] <Be-El> mich123: if you do not want to use cephfs, you do not need the corresponding pools
[13:50] <mich123> well ok thanks a lot
[13:51] <dmn> anorak: disabling the firewall worked :)
[13:52] <dmn> output of ceph health on admin node is
[13:52] <dmn> HEALTH_WARN 32 pgs degraded; 32 pgs stuck degraded; 64 pgs stuck unclean; 32 pgs stuck undersized; 32 pgs undersized
[13:52] <dmn> is it normal?
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[13:58] <kklimonda> hey, I'm getting 4k write IOPS when running fio against rbd cached by NVMe SSD with 250k IOPS - are those numbers what I should expect, or did I most likely misconfigure something? That's a pretty small testbed, with one beefy server with 30+ disks, and one NVMe
[14:01] <anorak> dmn: good to hear it worked
[14:02] <anorak> dmn: about the degraded states....are all osds "up"...check that by "ceph osd tree"
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[14:04] <dmn> anorak: yep, all of them are up.
[14:04] <anorak> dmn: how many osds do you have?
[14:04] <dmn> anorak: 2
[14:04] <dmn> but they're directories and not disks
[14:05] <anorak> dmn: what's your PG size?
[14:05] <dmn> anorak: how do I check that?
[14:06] <anorak> ceph osd dump | grep "pg_num"
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[14:06] <dmn> 64
[14:06] <Be-El> i think size and min_size are more important
[14:07] <Be-El> if it is a default install, both should be set to 3
[14:07] <dmn> size is 2 and min_size is 1
[14:07] <dmn> no I changed it to 2 in ceph.conf
[14:07] <dmn> Be-El ^
[14:08] <Be-El> dmn: does ceph osd dump also show a size of 2? i had some problems with the default values and had to set it manually
[14:08] <anorak> I might be wrong but you have few osds for 64 pgs which is why you are getting that status
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[14:09] <dmn> Be-El, yes.
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[14:10] <dmn> Be-El: anorak: If it is of any help, ceph status shows this - http://paste.openstack.org/show/230507/
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[14:11] <Be-El> dmn: are the osd able to communicate with each other? (firewall)
[14:11] <dmn> anorak: but will it be a problem in the future when I'm storing data?
[14:12] <dmn> Be-El: I disabled the firewall.
[14:12] <Be-El> dmn: also on the osd hosts?
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[14:12] <dmn> yep
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[14:13] <anorak> dmn: if it is possible, i would add one more osd and check if that improves the state of your cluster to test my theory
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[14:14] <dmn> anorak: okay, brb.
[14:15] <Be-El> anorak: 64 pgs should be ok for two osd. the default warning level in hammer is 300 pg / osd afaik
[14:16] <Be-El> anorak: can you ask dmn whether the two osds are located on the same host, and have him change the crush rule for distributing based on osds instead of hosts if only one host is available
[14:17] <Be-El> bbl, teaching some students how to write crazy java stuff....
[14:20] <anorak> Be-El: sure :). Happy teaching!
[14:21] <anorak> dmn: as Be-El pointed out, I assume that all OSDs are on the same host since you mentioned about them being directories
[14:23] <dmn> Be-El, anorak: Yep, they're on the same host.
[14:23] <anorak> dmn: That could also be the reason regarding the state of the cluster
[14:24] <dmn> I'll change the crush rule and let you guys know
[14:24] <anorak> great!
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[14:46] <dmn> anorak, Be-El: sorry, couldn't figure out how to change the crush rule. This is my crush map - http://paste.openstack.org/show/230516/. What exactly should I change in this?
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[14:53] <JarekO_> hi
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[14:53] <JarekO_> i have problem with Throughput on radosgw
[14:54] <JarekO_> cosbench says only 270.22 op/s
[14:54] <JarekO_> cosbench via librados 1100 op/s
[14:54] <JarekO_> any idea?
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[14:56] <JarekO_> http://pastebin.com/McS9c44E - info about cosbench
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[15:03] <nils_> the size parameter, is that megabytes as in 1000**2 or as in 1024**2?
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[15:04] <m0zes> dmn: change 'step chooseleaf firstn 0 type host' to 'step chooseleaf firstn 0 type osd' iirc
[15:06] <m0zes> nils_: fwict any sizes are base 2 in ceph.
[15:06] <nils_> brilliant.
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[15:10] <dmn> m0zes: Thanks a lot :)
[15:10] <AtuM> can anyone tell me what is the default of osd crush weight.. i have tried to install ceph on three nodes (admin+metadata), (monitor+osd), (monitor+osd)... i could not get it to work until i ran "ceph osd crush reweight osd.0 1" and the same for osd.1
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[15:10] <dmn> anorak, Be-El : health is now HEALTH_OK :)
[15:10] <AtuM> before it kept saying "HEALTH WARNING" .. after reweight it started to work
[15:11] <anorak> dmn: Sorry was away. Thanks m0zes . Good to know you got HEALTH_OK now :)
[15:12] <AtuM> I'm reading the documentation on crush-map, but it's not clear as to what the weight parameter effect.. i have a clue, but it makes no sense if the defaults don't work.
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[15:26] <dmn> anorak, :)
[15:26] <dmn> I just have one more question.
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[15:27] <dmn> Is the admin node which has neither the monitor nor the osd on it, considered as part of the storage cluster?
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[15:28] <dmn> The reason I ask this is, it is given in the doc that ceph-client should not be installed on the node which is part of the storage cluster and I want to install ceph-client on the admin node.
[15:29] <dmn> so would it be okay to install ceph-client on the admin node given that neither the monitor nor the osd reside on it?
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[15:37] <dmn> Be-El: Changing the crush rule worked. Thanks a ton!
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[15:37] <Be-El> dmn: you're welcome
[15:39] <Be-El> AtuM: in case your question has not been answered yet...the weight defines a ratio for distributing data in a ceph cluster. if osd A has the weight 2.0 and osd B has the weight 1.0, osd A will receive about the double amount of data than osd B
[15:40] <Be-El> AtuM: the default for weight is the size of the osd in TB, so larger osd get more data
[15:40] <Be-El> AtuM: due to rounding issues a very small osd may be assigned a weight of 0.0, which effectively disables an osd
[15:41] <anorak> dmn: You can install the ceph client on an admin node
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[15:41] <anorak> you could even use a normal VM for the admin node
[15:42] <dmn> oh, okay.
[15:42] <anorak> but be sure to backup your cluster configuration since you followed the quick tutorial :)
[15:42] <dmn> ha ha. Sure :)
[15:43] <anorak> :)
[15:43] <dmn> Thanks again.
[15:43] <dmn> Ciao!
[15:43] <anorak> your welcome!
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[16:03] <AtuM> Be-El, well I have used just 5GB virtual drives for osd... so would that translate into a weight of 0.0 and disable it? If so, I'd say there's a bug somewhere in there.. many ppl hit this issue from what I see on the forums.. your explanation makes the most sense from all i've read so far
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[16:05] <Be-El> AtuM: the minimum size is 10 gb, which translates into a default weight of 0.01. but you have to take the osd journal into account, which resides on the same partiion if not configured otherwise
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[16:06] <AtuM> Be-El, i did not know about this minimum size.
[16:07] <Be-El> AtuM: it's not documented afaik
[16:07] <AtuM> Be-El, this explains a lot ;)
[16:07] <Be-El> AtuM: you can use small osd, but you have to adjust the weight (as you have found out already)
[16:08] <AtuM> Be-El, I'm just getting started with ceph.. learning the commands and how things connect & play with it.. not much space needed.
[16:09] <Be-El> maybe someone should step up and create something similar to devstack for ceph
[16:09] <AtuM> Be-El, thank you for your help.
[16:09] <Be-El> you're welcome
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[16:18] <sugoruyo> hey folks, I'm looking at re-partitioning an OSDs HDD to put the journal in its own partition. Does anyone have any hints/tips on this?
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[16:28] <rkeene> sugoruyo, It'll be a pain if you want to do that without LVM on top of the HDD... Easiest way would probably be to get rid of the OSD and add it as a new one
[16:29] <sugoruyo> rkeene: I was hoping to xfsdump/xfsrestore the contents of the HDDs filesystem (minus any OSD data, it's been taken out of the cluster)
[16:30] <burley> Fry the OSD and then regenerate it
[16:30] <sugoruyo> removing and then adding it would be very messy as the CRUSH map is generated by our CM system and I would then have to manually amend it
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[16:30] <burley> I'd do it one host at a time
[16:30] <sugoruyo> burley: it's just the one OSD, for testing purposees
[16:30] <sugoruyo> purposes*
[16:30] <Be-El> sugoruyo: where do you want to put the journal on the disk? start may be the fastest part, but you'll also suffer from the higher average seek distance
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[16:31] <sugoruyo> Be-El: I'm not really sure, start is what I'm looking at... the problem is you can't really shrink XFS
[16:33] <sugoruyo> is there any way dump+restore wouldn't work? like some kind of metadata Ceph might rely on that I can't restore after repartitioning?
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[17:46] <Kvisle> playing around with ceph/radosgw, and I have a user with no data stored (at least visibly to me) - but radosgw-admin user stats --sync-stats is reporting that there are data there
[17:46] <Kvisle> is this a common issue?
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[17:55] <Be-El> Kvisle: i haven't used rgw by myself yet, but did the user allocate some data before and removed it in the mean time?
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[18:06] <angdraug> rgw keeps its metadata in rados objects
[18:06] <angdraug> could it be that?
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[18:16] <Be-El> angdraug: it also has a delayed deletion strategy with a garbage collection
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[18:18] <angdraug> or that :)
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[18:24] <c4tech> Hi Team!
[18:24] <c4tech> Does radosgw giant support keystone identity services V3?
[18:24] <c4tech> I cannot seem to find information on it.
[18:25] <Kvisle> Be-El: yes, uploaded, then removed it later -- I've also run gc manually
[18:25] <sugoruyo> burley, Be-El : fyi, I did manage to get the OSD to be transferred to a smaller partition using xfsdump/xfsrestore (I had reweighted to 0 first and reweighted appropriately afterwards)
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[18:26] <burley> sugoruyo: I wasn't suggesting that there wasn't a way to do it, just that often its safer to do the known operation than look up details and try to create a new procedure
[18:26] <sugoruyo> burley: that's fine it's a testing cluster with 0 interesting data in it
[18:27] <sugoruyo> I was looking for a way to get an OSD back without having to do a removal/addition, provided I had the metadata it keeps around
[18:27] <sugoruyo> it's just a dir. copy at the end of the day
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[18:37] <c4tech> Does radosgw giant support keystone identity services V3?
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[23:34] <liquidn2o> So which SSD is best for journals? Has anybody tried the Intel 750?
[23:34] <liquidn2o> We just tried using the 850 Pro with disappointing results
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[23:59] <Kvisle> I noticed that user stats and bucket stats for the uid can yield different results ... is that a feature, or a bug?
[23:59] <Kvisle> (the user stats claims I have 400MB in use, when I have none)

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