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IRC Log for 2015-02-27

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[0:00] <cephed> thinking of setting up a erasure-coded rbd with a cache tier - anybody done that?
[0:00] <championofcyrodi> the worst part was scping the rbd files with \ in the name...
[0:00] <lurbs> Ceph uses plain mode, with whatever the default ciphers for cryptsetup (see cryptsetup --help) are. Only reason we're running a patched version is that we wanted LUKS, and different ciphers/key size etc.
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[0:14] <VisBits> any of you have experience using ssds as write cache?
[0:15] <VisBits> my ideal configuration is a pool that uses ssd + spindle for primary + replica with ssd as the write cache in front...
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[0:30] <bdonnahue> lurbs: I wanted to do the same thing
[0:30] <bdonnahue> any idea when these will be committed to release branch?
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[0:33] <visualne> Anyone know what this means: v4 currently waiting for subops from [17]
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[0:46] <visualne> We have a ceph cluster that is in rough rough shape
[0:47] <visualne> we cant create volumes in openstack
[0:47] <visualne> The only error I see of any significance is this: 2015-02-26 22:21:33 WARNING [cinder.scheduler.host_manager] service is down or disabled. 2015-02-26 22:21:33 ERROR [cinder.scheduler.manager] Failed to schedule_create_volume: No valid host was found.
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[0:52] <rotbart> visualne, I do not think that this is a real ceph problem. did you inspect the logs on your hypervisors? you should be able to find a reason for that _no valid host was found_ there
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[0:52] <visualne> logs of the hypervisors? why would I do that
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[0:53] <visualne> when I create a volume that is when I am seeing the error
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[0:54] <visualne> It's not talking to any hypervisors at that point
[0:54] <visualne> now when I attach a volume, that a different story
[0:54] <rotbeard> afaik you will see reasons for why the scheduler isn't able to schedule on the hypervisors. but I can tell that for kvm only
[0:55] <rotbeard> ah ok. sorry, I thought you are taking about images for vms.
[0:55] <rotbeard> *talking
[0:55] <rotbeard> nevermind
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[1:47] <lurbs> bdonnahue: No idea, sorry. I'd guess for the Hammer release.
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[1:50] <flaf> Hi, and do you know when (approxymately) Hammer be officially released?
[1:51] <flaf> s/mmer be/mmer will be/
[1:51] <kraken> flaf meant to say: Hi, and do you know when (approxymately) Hammer will be officially released?
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[2:07] <cephed> is there an empirical formula for rbd performance with the number of servers being a variable
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[2:18] <lurbs> In a test cluster I just added three buckets of type 'rack', but when I moved them under the root (ceph osd crush move $rack root=default) it started a backfill. This is with the default CRUSH map that only does a chooseleaf type host. Why would having the racks there make a difference?
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[2:23] <SamYaple> hey guys. Following the manual deployment gets me a single pool named rbd rather than the expected "data" "metadata" "rbd" pools
[2:23] <SamYaple> do I need to manually create those?
[2:24] <lurbs> That's default now, although the docs haven't been updated.
[2:24] <SamYaple> so no need to worry is what you are saying lurbs?
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[2:26] <flaf> SamYaple: yes.
[2:26] <SamYaple> flaf: lurbs: Thanks for the reassurance!
[2:27] <flaf> Your version is < "firefly"? (if yes, no worry, it's normal)
[2:27] <flaf> ooups is > "firefly". :)
[2:27] <SamYaple> giant in this case, but good to know firefly is the same way
[2:28] <SamYaple> err wait. eh nvm. Im good. thanks for the help!
[2:28] <SamYaple> got multinode cluster running in docker containers on seperate hosts, w00t
[2:28] <lurbs> None of the default pools are strictly required at all, and metadata is only required if you're using CephFS.
[2:28] <lurbs> They were only really pre-created for convenience.
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[2:29] <SamYaple> what would the "data" pool be for? raw objects? radosgw?
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[2:29] <flaf> data and metadata (in firefly) is for Cephfs.
[2:30] <SamYaple> cool. thats all I need to know
[2:30] <SamYaple> did cephfs get the production go ahead on multiple mds yet?
[2:30] <lurbs> Nope.
[2:30] <SamYaple> sweet
[2:31] <SamYaple> maybe theyll just slap glusterfs ontop of it now
[2:31] <flaf> In firefly cephfs is with one active mds and the others are in standby.
[2:31] <lurbs> I heard that once Sage has blown through the $170m cruising the world on his yacht that he might consider finishing it off.
[2:32] <SamYaple> oh dont summon him. I want to keep bashing things
[2:32] <lurbs> But Summon Via Troll is my superpower. :-/
[2:33] <flaf> With monitors, there is one "active" monitor and the others are "passive", is that correct?
[2:34] <SamYaple> flaf: I think they are all active, but one is the quorom leader for disputes
[2:34] <SamYaple> my client talks to different monitors that the leader
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[2:36] <flaf> Ah that's it the "leader". How can see which monitor is the leader in cmd line?
[2:36] <flaf> And can I force a "leader toggle" in cmd line?
[2:40] <lurbs> 'ceph quorum_status' should tell you what state the monitors are in.
[2:40] <lurbs> Pipe it through something like 'python -m json.tool' to make it more pretty.
[2:41] <SamYaple> can't ceph do pretty print now?
[2:41] * lurbs shrugs.
[2:41] <lurbs> Possible.
[2:41] <lurbs> Yep.
[2:41] <lurbs> --format json-pretty
[2:41] <lurbs> Old habit. :)
[2:42] <flaf> lurbs: thx.
[2:42] <lurbs> Not sure about toggling the leader, or forcing an election. Never needed to.
[2:42] <SamYaple> wont it just reelect the same one?
[2:43] <lurbs> flaf: http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/monitoring/
[2:43] <SamYaple> you can down the mon, that would work... ;)
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[2:44] <flaf> Do you know the difference between "active/standby" concept (for mds) and "leader/not leader" concept (for monitor)?
[2:44] <flaf> Is it not the same thing?
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[2:46] <SamYaple> active passive is not active active
[2:46] <SamYaple> ceph would not scale weel with a single monitor!
[2:47] <SamYaple> well*
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[2:47] <flaf> This not the same with one leader monitor ?
[2:47] <SamYaple> no because you can still talk to the other monitors flaf
[2:48] <flaf> ok, i see. Thx.
[2:48] <SamYaple> the monitors themselves determine wether they should reply
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[2:49] <SamYaple> Consider this: you have 3 monitors, and they splitbrain, 2 on one side, 1 on the other. The 2 will be able to form a quorum (>50%) and return information, the 1 will not form a quorum and will not return
[2:49] <SamYaple> then you fix the split brain and it joins the quorum again
[2:49] <SamYaple> no bad data
[2:50] <flaf> ok, I see. Thx.
[2:50] <flaf> Ok, in fact, if I have asked the question, this is because I'm testing a reboot of one node of my little cluster.
[2:50] <SamYaple> flaf: how many monitors?
[2:51] <flaf> 3.
[2:51] <SamYaple> should be fine. just make sure the other 2 can talk
[2:51] <SamYaple> (this is why quorum is odd numbers)
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[2:51] <flaf> during the reboot of a node, I can see a freeze of the storage on a client (VM) during 4-5 seconds.
[2:52] <flaf> I thought that is was the toggle of monitor leader but in fact this is not the case.
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[2:53] <SamYaple> it might be? when one mon goes down a new election is called to ensure a quorum still exists
[2:53] <SamYaple> that takes a few seconds
[2:53] <SamYaple> but it doesn't have to be the leader that fails, if any of them fail it calls a new one
[2:53] <flaf> But, the freeze come even if the leader don't change.
[2:53] <SamYaple> ^^
[2:54] <flaf> I have 1 "monitor" server, and 2 "osds+monitor" servers.
[2:54] <SamYaple> this changes nothing. If a monitor fails a new election is called.
[2:55] <flaf> Ah. ok. So I have a cluster and if I reboot a server that contains a monitor, it's normal to have a little freeze of the storage?
[2:56] <flaf> (even with a big cluster with lot of monitor and osd etc.?)
[2:56] <SamYaple> 4-5 seconds seems long.. but the monitors won't respond until the election is finished
[2:56] <lurbs> Clients talk directly to the OSDs for reads and writes, not through the monitor(s).
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[2:57] <lurbs> It shouldn't stall unless the topology of the cluster also changes, and the client has not yet been made aware of it because it was talking to a monitor that has disappeared, but it hasn't realised it yet.
[2:58] <SamYaple> lurbs: he is running mon+osds
[2:58] <SamYaple> so reboot those nodes and the topo will change
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[2:58] <lurbs> Then yeah, topology change. :)
[3:02] <flaf> Yes it's not a problem of monitor etc. because if I reboot the "monitor" server (which contains no osd daemon, I have no freeze).
[3:04] <flaf> But in a basic topolgy for instance 5 "osds" servers and replica = 3, if I reboot 1 "osds" node, I will have a little freeze in the client side?
[3:05] <SamYaple> flaf: well that shouldn't happen
[3:05] <SamYaple> unless you mean you reboot the mon and then run `ceph -s` or something, because will try to contact the mon first
[3:06] <flaf> for instance I have upgrade the server (upgrade of the lic6) and I want to reboot the server. It should happen, isn'it?
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[3:08] <flaf> So I don't understand why, in my case, I have a little freeze (5s) and in the case of 5 "osds" servers and replica = 3 that shouldn't happen?
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[4:21] <yuan> yehudasa_: is it possible to access the shadow objects via radosgw?
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[4:37] <flaf> SamYaple: lurbs: just for information, I have made little tests and in fact I can see a significant freezes in client side (5s... sometimes 20s etc.), only when I reboot a "monitor+osds" server.
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[4:37] <flaf> so, "stop mon+osds" => significant freeze in client side
[4:38] <flaf> "stop mon only" => no significant freeze (even if the mon is the leader)
[4:38] <flaf> and "stop just osds of a node" => no significant freeze too.
[4:40] <flaf> Conclusion (to my mind), it's better to separate monitors and osds in different servers (because reboot for maintenance etc. will be transparent in client side).
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[4:43] <flaf> It seems to me that when I "stop mon+osds", I have monitors re-election *and* the topology has changed.
[4:45] <flaf> This case seems to be more disturbing for the client than just a change of topology *or* just a monitor re-election.
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[4:50] <flaf> It's logical but, with my little cluster, I find that each phenomenon taken separately seems to have almost no effect for the ceph client, but the 2 simultaneously disturb clients with a significant freeze.
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[6:14] <SamYaple> flaf: what you are describing is exactly what we said.
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[6:34] <SamYaple> flaf: if you wanted to minimize that, you could stop the osds first and wait for the mons to recognize that
[6:34] <SamYaple> then you could bring the mon back before the osds
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[7:36] <halbritt> ping
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[7:56] <stannum> hello, folks! I'm still fighting with RBD mapping: http://pastebin.com/w5kPFe3G, could anyone help me please?
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[8:48] <Be-El> hi
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[9:03] <SamYaple> hello Be-El
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[9:39] <ramonskie> hi i have some serious issues on my ceph cluster. i have 11 pgs in incomplete stage
[9:39] <ramonskie> what can i do?
[9:41] <Be-El> the obvious answer is trying to find out what's wrong ;-)
[9:41] <ramonskie> there was a osd failure
[9:42] <Be-El> what's the current state of the cluster?
[9:42] <ramonskie> and i couldnt fixed it so i set it as lost and then removed it
[9:42] <ramonskie> health HEALTH_WARN 2 pgs down; 11 pgs incomplete; 2 pgs peering; 14 pgs stuck inactive; 14 pgs stuck unclean; 131 requests are blocked > 32 sec
[9:42] <Be-El> so you used ceph osd out to mark the osd as out and removed it?
[9:43] <ramonskie> maby i forgot the out command
[9:43] <ramonskie> but it was already down
[9:43] <Be-El> which replicate size do you use?
[9:44] <ramonskie> that depends on which pool some 2 some 3
[9:44] <Be-El> and which min_size?
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[9:45] <ramonskie> this is info from 1 pg http://pastebin.com/xX49kVff
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[9:46] <Be-El> how many hosts do you have in the cluster?
[9:47] <ramonskie> 30 osds 8 hosts
[9:49] <Be-El> do you use some special crush ruleset for the affected pool, or just the default set that distributes pgs over hosts?
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[9:49] <ramonskie> no i use default
[9:50] <Be-El> ok
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[9:50] <Be-El> according to the dump the pg is trying to recover, but blocked for some reason
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[9:51] <ramonskie> okay how can i find out what is blocking it
[9:51] <Be-El> osds 14 and 23 are fine, osd 7 is down (the one that failed)
[9:51] <ramonskie> yes
[9:52] <Be-El> the last other osd that was involved with this pg was osd.0
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[9:53] <Be-El> you can try to restart the osd process for that osd. it may help to recover the pg
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[9:53] <ramonskie> okay will try that
[9:53] <Be-El> if it does not work, you can also restart the osd process for one of the healthy osds (14/23)
[9:53] <ramonskie> okay
[9:54] <ramonskie> will report back :)
[9:54] <ramonskie> thanks
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[10:00] <ramonskie> restarted the osds
[10:00] <ramonskie> but no luck
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[10:07] <Be-El> did the start of the cluster change?
[10:07] <ramonskie> 1 pg got to down+peering
[10:07] <Be-El> eh...state
[10:07] <ramonskie> down+incomplete
[10:07] <ramonskie> i meean
[10:07] <Be-El> and the osds are back online?
[10:08] <ramonskie> yes
[10:08] <ramonskie> but i think that happend because i tried to scrub and repair that pg
[10:08] <Be-El> are there still blocked requests? and which osds are involved in them?
[10:08] <ramonskie> yes there are
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[10:09] <ramonskie> osd 14, 15, 16 ,35 have blocked requests
[10:10] <Be-El> jsut a guess...try to restart osd 16
[10:13] <ramonskie> done but does not help :(
[10:15] <ramonskie> okay i'm lost
[10:17] <Be-El> you can try to restart the others, too
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[10:18] <ramonskie> vpn timeout
[10:21] <ramonskie> Be-El: any other ideas?
[10:22] <Be-El> you can try to restart the others, too
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[10:23] <ramonskie> okay
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[10:41] <bitserker> hi all!
[10:42] <stannum> hello, folks! I'm still fighting with RBD mapping: http://pastebin.com/w5kPFe3G, could anyone help me please?
[10:50] <bitserker> stannum: rbd map /dev/rbd/<pool>/<image> i think
[10:51] <bitserker> stannum: you need to create an image first with rbd -p [pool] create --size 10240 [image]
[10:52] <bitserker> stannum: it seems that you are using a file block device like a iscsi import. its not the same. you need a rbd image
[10:52] <bitserker> stannum: export
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[10:53] <Be-El> stannum: you do not have the necessary keys available
[10:53] <fghaas> stannum: do you have a ceph.client.admin.keyring in /etc/ceph?
[10:53] <fghaas> bitserker: what Be-El says.
[10:54] <ramonskie-> Be-El: i have restarted all osds one after another but now it changed from 2 down+incomplete to 4 down+incomplete
[10:55] <Be-El> ramonskie-: can you post the pg infos for one of the down+incomplete pgs?
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[10:56] <ramonskie-> http://pastebin.com/HEqp5P1s
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[10:57] <ramonskie-> it seems that it still needs osd 7
[10:58] <ramonskie-> even as i have made it lost and removed it
[10:58] <ramonskie-> is this "mark_unfound_lost
[10:58] <ramonskie-> revert" a option?
[10:59] <Be-El> pool 11 has a min_size of 3?
[10:59] <ramonskie-> replica size 2
[11:01] <Be-El> that's the 'size' setting. there's also a 'min_size' setting
[11:02] <ramonskie-> min_size is 1
[11:02] <Be-El> so the pg should be happy with two acting osds
[11:02] <ramonskie-> yeah
[11:02] <stannum> fghaas,Be-El: yes I have created keyring files and all nesesary preconfigurations a made(do not mind about HEALTH, all under the control): http://pastebin.com/NZM8XqcX
[11:03] <fghaas> stannum: then you need rbd map -n client.veeam-bkp-rep03 pool/vol
[11:05] <stannum> yes I know that and I'm exported that parameters to environment variable CEPH_ARGS=-n client.veeam-bkp-rep03 --keyring=/etc/ceph/client.veeam-bkp-rep03.keyring
[11:05] <fghaas> not sure if rbd map actually groks CEPH_ARGS
[11:05] <kraken> ???_???
[11:05] <Be-El> stannum: does rbd use that variable?
[11:05] <stannum> [v
[11:05] <stannum> hmm
[11:05] <Be-El> stannum: the manpage does not mention it
[11:05] <stannum> lets try it
[11:06] <stannum> nope got exactly same result
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[11:08] <grin> <opinion style="newbie">there should be a better way to kinly ask ceph to fiddle with osd's than restarting them :-)</opinion>
[11:08] <stannum> sorry not exactly the same: http://pastebin.com/JUiaJSEV - but it does not change the result :)
[11:09] <Be-El> stannum: some dmesg entries for the last attempt?
[11:10] <grin> stannum, you don't quite like google search, do you? :)
[11:10] <fghaas> stannum: what's your kernel version?
[11:10] <grin> http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2014-April/038890.html
[11:10] <Be-El> grin: good point
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[11:11] <Be-El> stannum: can use list the pool content with the configured user?
[11:12] <stannum> yes I can, there is 2 Tb of data in RBD image
[11:12] <fghaas> so I'd say that's either an osd missing libcls_rbd, or it's a format 2 volume with a kernel that doesn't support mapping format 2 yet
[11:12] <fghaas> ... or the volume is striped
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[11:19] <ramonskie-> it seems to me that this is some kind of bug that even when i set the osd 7 to lost it still wants to probe osd 7 with the message "down_osds_we_would_probe [ 7 ]" in the pg query
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[11:20] <Be-El> ramonskie-: is osd.7 still registered in the cluster?
[11:20] <stannum> uname -a shows: 3.16.0-4-amd64 I have another server that mounting another rbd image it has kernel Linux 3.16-2-amd64 and everything is ok
[11:21] <ramonskie-> i dont see it listed any more when running "ceph osd tree"
[11:21] <ramonskie-> are there any other commands to see more info?
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[11:31] <stannum> could anyone explain difference between rbd command parmeters: --keyfile vs --keyring?
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[11:42] <p01s0n> in my ceph cluster a dd write shows worst performance for btrfs,using 3.16 kernel with 9 osd in 3 server
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[11:44] <ramonskie> is it maby a idea to do a upgrade of ceph i'm currently on 0.80.8
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[11:44] <ramonskie> because i have no clue's anymore
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[11:52] <grin> stannum, without knowing or checking??? my guess is keyfile just contains the key while keyring is a full-fledged config file with sections and stuff
[11:52] <grin> p01s0n, how much worst
[11:53] <grin> ramonskie, I have a collection of useful commands...
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[11:54] <p01s0n> grin for xfs average is 780 kbps and for btrfs its 540kbps these are all vms
[11:55] <fvl> barrier?
[11:55] <ramonskie> grin: any idea to see which osds are still in the ceph cluster?
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[11:59] <grin> ramonskie, stuff http://pastebin.com/JNCcVpv4
[12:00] <ramonskie> thanks,
[12:00] <grin> I'm still familiarising myself with crush, possibly lots of interesting commands for it too :)
[12:01] <grin> it seems crush is the king who rules over osd's so I gotta get to know him better
[12:02] <ramonskie> he's a pain in the aas :P
[12:02] <ramonskie> ass
[12:02] <grin> most rulers are, still, they make the whole country to work :-]
[12:02] <ramonskie> true
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[12:03] <grin> it seems to be I need crush when osd's are not used when they should and vice versa
[12:03] <ramonskie> crush is nice if you have multiple datacenters
[12:03] <grin> as far as I see it's there even if you're running your test on one machine in 5 VMs :)
[12:03] <ramonskie> and i think you can do some rackaware stuff with it
[12:04] <grin> you can, but you need to know it, as I reckon, even when you're using a bunch of servers in a single heap
[12:04] <ramonskie> yup
[12:04] <grin> if he's not happy all in and up osd's can be stuck inactive
[12:05] <grin> as my test cluster clrearly has shown :-/
[12:05] <grin> I started fiddling with crush and magically everything fixed itself. Lots to read.
[12:05] <ramonskie> well my cluster has one major issue i have incomplete pg's because it want to connect to a node that i already marked as lost
[12:06] <grin> try... hmmm let me see
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[12:08] <grin> ceph osd getcrushmap > /tmp/cm ; crushtool -d /tmp/cm
[12:09] <grin> (don't ask me why crushtool cannot handle stdin)
[12:10] <grin> I guess this was where I found non-exising osds
[12:11] <grin> or... hmm, it was late yesterday
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[12:11] <ramonskie> nope
[12:11] <kraken> http://i.minus.com/iUgVCKwjISSke.gif
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[12:12] <grin> i had a fight with monmaps too and maybe I'm mixing it up :-/
[12:12] <ramonskie> the only strange thing i can see is device 7 device7
[12:12] <ramonskie> i think that is the osd i removed
[12:13] <grin> osd crush dump gives the similar, but possibly won't help you
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[12:14] <ramonskie> okay well i try to check some stuff
[12:14] <ramonskie> thanks :)
[12:14] <grin> you may be brave and try 'ceph osd crush remove device7'
[12:14] <ramonskie> need some sandwich right now :)
[12:15] <grin> my guess would be it should stop to allocate for it then
[12:15] <grin> or possibly destroy your system. I'm innocent.
[12:15] * grin standard disclaimers apply. :-)
[12:17] <grin> is it still present in osd dumps?
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[12:47] <phoenix> hi man i try install ne mon server all add and after start saw this error: http://pastebin.com/btMf4b1N
[12:47] <phoenix> some body help me please:)
[12:48] <Be-El> phoenix: can you post the content of the mon log file (/var/log/ceph/... )?
[12:49] <phoenix> http://pastebin.com/dn4hHDXb
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[12:50] <grin> I'd try to run the command on console and see the error message myself :)
[12:50] <grin> mon is already running? :)
[12:51] <phoenix> http://pastebin.com/wJ5qkdj3
[12:51] <phoenix> no
[12:51] <phoenix> %)
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[12:53] <Be-El> ceph version 0.67.11?
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[12:55] <phoenix> mon.c - ceph version 0.67.11 others mon.a mon.b - ceph version 0.80.6
[12:55] <phoenix> %)
[12:55] <phoenix> need update?
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[12:55] <Be-El> definitely. the mon should have the same version
[12:55] <phoenix> or it does not matter?
[12:56] <Be-El> at least as far as i know
[12:56] <phoenix> ok try update
[12:56] <phoenix> )))
[12:56] <Be-El> you should also check whether a stray mon process is running on the host that has locked the leveldb storage and the admin socket. i'm not sure whether the messages about it can be ignored
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[13:01] <volter> Hello, I'm asking the question you probably hear all day, but I really don't seem to be able to solve it on my own:
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[13:02] <volter> I created a new cluster with three OSDs (spread across 2 machines) and a monitor on a third machine.
[13:03] <volter> The OSDs are up and in, but the cluster health status is "HEALTH_WARN 192 pgs degraded; 192 pgs stuck unclean".
[13:03] <volter> 2 replicas are required.
[13:03] <Be-El> did you set it explicitly to 2 replicas?
[13:04] <Be-El> and did you set size and min_size for the pool?
[13:04] <volter> Yes, in ceph.conf: "osd pool default size = 2"
[13:04] <volter> min size is 1
[13:04] <Be-El> and you verify the setting, e.g. with ceph osd dump (first lines are pool + their configuration)
[13:05] <volter> I suppose so: http://fpaste.org/191308/14250387/
[13:06] <volter> I wonder why the pg_num is different from ceph.conf though.
[13:06] <grin> happens all the time :-P
[13:06] <volter> grin: What exactly?
[13:06] <grin> like I have changed the config after creation
[13:07] <grin> or I made a typo in the config and the value wasn't changed from default
[13:07] <grin> or the config was not the same on the node I used to create it
[13:08] <volter> I see
[13:08] <grin> anyway try to set it, I wonder whether it fixes your problem
[13:08] <Be-El> volter: the pool config looks good. no clue what the problem itself is
[13:08] * grin is newbie offering free advices without background knowledge
[13:08] <volter> Be-El: Unfortunately it's the second time I try from scratch.
[13:09] <grin> volter happened the same to me
[13:09] <volter> So you suggest changing pg_num?
[13:09] <grin> volter, I tried to write an email to the cep-users telling the story
[13:09] <Be-El> volter: can you post the ceph crush tree?
[13:09] <grin> volter, for me what resolved it was to change the crush map
[13:10] <grin> volter, at the moment I injected the new map the cluster resolved it immediately
[13:10] <volter> I previously thought it could be about failure domains, but now I don't think so anymore.
[13:10] <grin> volter, and the new map contained nothing special, just fiddled with weights (changed from 0.00 to 1.00) and inserted a few entries about chassis and room...
[13:11] <grin> try it and I wonder whether it'll solve your problems
[13:11] <volter> grin: I would think that the automatically populated host property should be enough to consider it two failure domains.
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[13:12] <grin> volter, I've seen the theory and it resulted the same you see, don't ask me explanations :-) I'm not yet familar with the "what's going on tools"
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[13:12] <volter> grin: Can you help me out with the command to dump the map?
[13:12] <grin> good morning garphy
[13:12] <grin> volter, moment
[13:13] <grin> ceph osd getcrushmap > /tmp/cm ; crushtool -d /tmp/cm > /tmp/crushmap.old
[13:14] <grin> and the reverse you probably can guess (compile with crushtool and set with ceph osd setcrushmap)
[13:14] <Be-El> volter: ceph osd tree
[13:14] <phoenix> be-el i`m update 1 server with mon.c and all up i need doing some think else?
[13:14] <phoenix> http://pastebin.com/SMzWZFNG
[13:14] <Be-El> phoenix: stop any running ceph-mon processes on the server before restarting it
[13:15] <grin> Be-El, for me all looked good, osd trees, pg status, everything.
[13:15] <Be-El> phoenix: have a look with ps -aef, too
[13:15] <grin> Be-El, I watch closely how you resolve it :)
[13:15] <Be-El> phoenix: oh...all three mons are up
[13:16] <volter> http://fpaste.org/191311/14250393/
[13:16] <phoenix> root 2607 1 4 15:04 ? 00:00:27 /usr/bin/ceph-mon -i c --pid-file /var/run/ceph/mon.c.pid -c /etc/ceph/ceph.conf --cluster ceph
[13:16] <phoenix> root 2619 2257 0 15:04 ? 00:00:00 sshd: root@pts/0
[13:16] <phoenix> root 2731 1 0 15:04 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ceph-mds -i c --pid-file /var/run/ceph/mds.c.pid -c /etc/ceph/ceph.conf --cluster ceph
[13:16] <phoenix> yes
[13:16] <phoenix> all right i thin or not?
[13:16] <volter> http://fpaste.org/191312/14250394/
[13:17] <Be-El> volter: just a guess...what happens if you reduce the size to 1 for one of the pool
[13:17] <Be-El> phoenix: i think so. the cluster is healthy with three mons
[13:17] <phoenix> ok thx
[13:17] <Be-El> volter: AH. got it
[13:17] <Be-El> volter: the weights are 0.0
[13:17] <phoenix> I can sleep well
[13:17] <phoenix> %)
[13:17] <phoenix> bb
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[13:18] <Be-El> volter: do you use virtual machines with small disks for testing?
[13:18] <volter> Be-El: Yes, I do
[13:18] <volter> Be-El: I think I tried reducing the size on the previous setup and it didn't work there.
[13:18] <Be-El> volter: you need a certain minimal size for the osds, otherwise the weight (size in TB) will become 0.0 -> no usable osd
[13:19] <volter> Argh
[13:19] <Be-El> volter: so increase the size to at least 100GB + journal size
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[13:19] <volter> But I can change the weight manually, right?
[13:19] <Be-El> or change it manually, yes
[13:19] <volter> It's just for getting used to it so far anyway.
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[13:21] <Be-El> volter: ceph osd crush reweight osd.X <weight>
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[13:25] <volter> Be-El: And that did it. I can't thank you guys enough!
[13:26] <Be-El> you're welcome
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[13:28] <volter> Now on to setting up a client!
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[13:55] <grin> damn! Be-El that must be it then.
[13:55] <grin> so I was right. :)
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[13:55] <grin> this definitely should go into the quick-start guide
[13:58] <grin> I'm using 2GB osds for testing and obviously the weight was 0
[13:58] <grin> as a sidenote I had to change 'osd journal size = 512' since the default was bigger than the osd itself :-)
[13:59] <volter> grin: I think it doesn't even let you ceph-disk-prepare 2 GB OSDs.
[13:59] <grin> volter, I am doing it right now :-)
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[14:00] <grin> volter, obviously after changing the journal size as above
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[14:01] <grin> now I'm fiddling with mixing in very slow osd's and see what happens
[14:01] <volter> OK, so I created and mounted an RBD now. It is bigger than a single OSD. I ran fio using a file size that roughly matches the size of an OSD. One OSD is now filled up all the way and IO was blocked eventually.
[14:02] <volter> grin: Ah, yes, that should help!
[14:02] <volter> grin: Depends on the pooling then, from what I have read.
[14:05] <Be-El> volter: objects are usually splitted into chunks and distributed accross the osds
[14:05] <volter> In 4 MB size or something, right?
[14:06] <volter> For the block device at least
[14:07] <Be-El> exactly
[14:07] <Be-El> the distribution is not 100% even, but all osd should have roughly the same amount of space in use now
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[14:08] <Be-El> ah, i forget the replication...yes, i/o should be blocked now
[14:08] <Be-El> the cluster should also be in an unhealthy state
[14:09] <volter> It is
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[14:10] <volter> The other OSDs are well-filled too, so I would think the replication has worked.
[14:10] <volter> And that's probably where I got the capacity wrong.
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[14:14] <vivcheri> Hi, where can I get #ceph irc logs ?
[14:14] <vivcheri> I misplaced the logs of my conversation yesterday with Be-El
[14:20] <guppy> what time was it? I can send them to you in an e-mail
[14:21] <guppy> same nick? didn't see a conversation with be-el and your current nick.
[14:21] <guppy> unless you are volter.
[14:22] <volter> No, volter is volter.
[14:22] <guppy> well then
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[14:23] <grin> volter, ceph df ;-)
[14:24] <grin> I remember vivcheri
[14:24] <grin> but my scrollback doesn't :-/
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[14:25] <grin> vivcheri, found you, wanna have the log in email? send addr in private
[14:26] <grin> but I don't know whether there's public logging available. there should be...
[14:26] <visualne> Hello, recently we have had to rebuilt OSDs in our ceph cluster and now we are seeing some very strange behavior. As of right now I can't do a glance index command from the controller. It appears to hang with no indication of what the problem is
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[14:31] <visualne> I also noticed that I have a number of placement groups in a stuck unclean state. In looking online they mentioned something about 'unfound objects being the problem.' I checked ceph -w and didn't see any mention of unfound objects in the output.
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[14:44] <championofcyrodi> Be-El: Success! http://championofcyrodiil.blogspot.com/2015/02/recover-openstack-ceph-data-with.html
[14:46] <Be-El> championofcyrodi: great
[14:46] <championofcyrodi> i also pushed the scripts to a public github repo in case anyone wants to use or improve them.
[14:46] <vivcheri> grin: Thanks
[14:46] <vivcheri> grin: Please check pm
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[14:50] <grin> vivcheri, sent
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[14:51] <vivcheri> grin: Thanks.
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[14:56] <ZyTer> hi, i do some test on my new cluster (3 nodes, 3 mon), i put 2 node down : "service ceph stop" (its ok, my VM run, with a replica 3, all ok) but when i retart : "service ceph start" the mon and osd wont start...
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[15:06] <vivcheri> grin: My technician did the xfs file check and did not get an noticeable errrors.
[15:07] <vivcheri> The machine has been rebooted and it is pingable but we are not able to ssh into it.
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[15:08] <grin> pool cephfs_metadata id 2
[15:08] <grin> -5/24 objects degraded (-20.833%)
[15:09] <grin> that's a good start :-P
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[15:12] <ZyTer> ZyTer: its ok, i restart mon on each node, and its fine :)
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[15:15] <jcsp> grin: deletes during backfills? http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/7737
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[15:16] <grin> jcsp, the log is okay but 'osd pool stats' gives all negative
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[15:17] <grin> pool cephfs_data id 1
[15:17] <grin> -309/0 objects degraded (-inf%)
[15:17] <grin> recovery io 1460 kB/s, 18 objects/s
[15:17] <grin> pool cephfs_metadata id 2
[15:17] <grin> -12/0 objects degraded (-inf%)
[15:17] <grin> recovery io 0 B/s, 0 keys/s, 0 objects/s
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[15:17] <visualne> Anyone know how to write to a ceph pool as a specific user?
[15:17] <jcsp> yes, I was asking whether you'd recently had backfilling PGs
[15:17] <grin> I did a reweight for a new osd
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[15:17] <visualne> in other words use a specific users keyring
[15:17] <jcsp> grin: ok, so that'll give you backfills. Filesystem activity at the same time?
[15:17] <grin> but the log shows only valid numbers (ceph.log)
[15:18] <grin> plenty.
[15:18] <grin> Is there a way to see where the IO goes? Like osd activity (per osd)?
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[15:20] <grin> are there monitoring tools at all? :) like top / iotop
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[15:25] <kevinkevin-work> grin: heard of calamari?
[15:25] <kevinkevin-work> not realling "monitoring" though, ...
[15:26] <kevinkevin-work> **really
[15:26] <grin> kevinkevin-work, oh okay, _heard_ about it but haven't checked
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[15:26] <grin> I will
[15:27] <jcsp> grin: so it sounds like you're probably just hitting #7737, and can ignore your negative numbers of degraded objects ??? they'll clear as soon as the backfill completes.
[15:27] <grin> they did.
[15:27] <jcsp> cool beans
[15:27] <grin> thanks, I was not worried.
[15:27] <grin> this is a test cluster, fortunately. I am observing how trusy cephFS could be...
[15:28] <grin> but right now it doesn't quite want to crash the kernel as yesterday...
[15:29] <jcsp> Kernel crashes: recent kernel? Checked tracker.ceph.com for similar backtraces? We're very interested in any crashes you have on recent versions.
[15:29] <grin> 3.16
[15:29] <grin> but it has been already fixed in issue tracker
[15:30] <grin> i guess it's for 3.17 or 18
[15:30] <vivcheri> grin: My technician says he is not getting any error messages but is not able to log into the console via kvm, He tells me he was able to mount the paritions using a knoppix live cd.
[15:30] <vivcheri> grin: Do you recommend any other distro that knoppix ?
[15:30] <vivcheri> I am not sure of Knoppix is still maintained properly.
[15:30] <vivcheri> s/that/than
[15:31] <grin> vivcheri, you better ask regulars, I just sent you your logs ;)
[15:31] <vivcheri> Ok
[15:31] <vivcheri> Thanks.
[15:31] <grin> I'm using debian jessie but it's not loved by ceph-deploy. as far as I see ceph guys use ubuntu
[15:32] <vivcheri> grin: Who are the regulars :)
[15:32] <grin> vivcheri, you had your conversation with Be-El
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[15:32] <Be-El> <- not a regular, just another user
[15:32] <grin> jcsp, I will report everything which seem to be unresolved, promise. :-)
[15:33] <jcsp> awesome
[15:33] <grin> well jcsp is regular but probably pretty busy :-)
[15:33] <grin> at least he LOOKS LIKE regular.
[15:33] <grin> probably wearing "ceph rule" t-shirt
[15:33] <vivcheri> Be-El: I hope you know my problem right ?
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[15:34] <vivcheri> Currently my technican has used a knoppix cd to try to restore an xfs file issue on the ceph node.
[15:34] <grin> vivcheri, but you do not have i/o errors anymore, right? don't run filesystem checks until you have io errors
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[15:35] <grin> vivcheri, if youre sure the backing device is up and fine you can try 'xfs_repair /dev/whatever'
[15:35] <grin> xfs_repair...
[15:35] <grin> darn where's my underscore
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[15:35] <grin> stupid irc client
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[15:37] <vivcheri> grin, Be-El : He says he has done that step.
[15:38] <grin> so he is able to mount the fs
[15:38] <Be-El> vivcheri: the problem is probably not ceph related. you should verify that the harddisk is ok and that the filesystem is sane
[15:39] <Be-El> vivcheri: you can try to restart the osd afterwards, and have a look at the osd logs
[15:40] <grin> vivcheri, if your os is stuck in iowait, for example because osd starts or a mount start then you should start the system with no ceph running, like single user mode
[15:40] <vivcheri> Ok.
[15:40] <grin> vivcheri, then prevent ceph from starting next time
[15:40] <vivcheri> Ok,
[15:40] <grin> depends on what you're using (systemd, sysvinit, ...)
[15:41] <grin> the machine should start without ceph, if it doesn't then the problem is not ceph related
[15:41] <vivcheri> grin: It's Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit Server addition.
[15:41] <grin> as an emergency you can start with '..... init=/bin/sh' and do all the mounting and looking around
[15:41] <vivcheri> The machine is starting but the technicican is not able to log into the console.
[15:41] <grin> try single user first
[15:42] <grin> Idon't know ubu's boot menu, probably they offer you a singleuser right away
[15:42] <vivcheri> I am taking a quick break for dinner, I'll be back.
[15:42] <grin> if not you can probably start the kernel with 'single' at the end
[15:42] <vivcheri> ok grin.
[15:42] <vivcheri> Ok.
[15:42] <grin> eating while the tech guy is there? :-)
[15:42] * grin grins
[15:42] <grin> bon appetite
[15:43] <vivcheri> I am informed him :)
[15:43] <vivcheri> s/I am/I've
[15:43] <kraken> vivcheri meant to say: I've informed him :)
[15:43] <grin> I understand indiglish :)
[15:44] * grin smirks after checking viv's ip :-)
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[16:10] <vivcheri> grin: ok
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[16:18] <visualne> why do I keep getting this error 'librbd::ImageCtx: error finding header: (2) No such file or directory' when doing a rbd export --pool=poolname file_in_cluster filename_leaving_cluster
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[16:31] <Gugge-47527> visualne: do you have an rbd named file_in_cluster ?
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[16:33] <visualne> well, if I do this command ceph osd map volumes onegig
[16:33] <visualne> it tells me what pg its in and what osds its on
[16:34] <visualne> but when I do this command rbd export --pool=volumes onegig onegig
[16:34] <visualne> it throws and error
[16:34] <Gugge-47527> rbd is not ment to export objects
[16:34] <Gugge-47527> only rbds
[16:34] <Gugge-47527> onegig is an object, not an rbd
[16:34] <Gugge-47527> you can get it with the rados command
[16:34] <Gugge-47527> rados get
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[16:43] <visualne> Gugge-47527: That did it
[16:44] <visualne> I am assuming I am using hte admin users keyring when doing that command
[16:44] <visualne> I wonder if I can specifiy another
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[16:45] <flaf> Hi ;) SamYaple (late answer): ok, you are right, sorry. I'm a little slow and I need to test myself.
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[16:46] <flaf> So, can you confirm that this http://pastealacon.com/36904 is correct to reboot a cluster node with "1 mon + N OSDs" in oder to *minimize* the impact on ceph clients?
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[16:59] <Gugge-47527> flaf: seems right
[16:59] <ramonskie> i'am trying to upgrade from firefly to giant and i first did the monitors and now my with my first osd i get a error http://pastebin.com/CjxXDaxE
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[17:02] <flaf> Gugge-47527: ah ok, thx. I have to see the case where the node has a "mds" service (with firefly and so active/standby mode). Is possible trigger switch like mds-1=active => mds-2=active (and mds-1=standby) ?
[17:03] <flaf> s/Is possible trigger/ Is it possible to trigger/
[17:03] <kraken> flaf meant to say: Gugge-47527: ah ok, thx. I have to see the case where the node has a "mds" service (with firefly and so active/standby mode). Is it possible to trigger switch like mds-1=active => mds-2=active (and mds-1=standby) ?
[17:04] <visualne> Is it possible to write to a pool using rados using a specific key
[17:05] <visualne> I want to test to make sure a specific cephx user can write to a pool
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[17:12] <Gugge-47527> visualne: rados put
[17:12] <Gugge-47527> flaf: just stop the mds on the current active
[17:12] <Gugge-47527> and a standby will take over :)
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[17:24] <flaf> Ah ok Gugge-47527, I will make some tests. Thx for your help. ;)
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[17:56] <visualne> Gugge-47527: I don't see any mention of specifying a user with a rados put command
[17:59] <avozza> is there a more recent version of the pacemaker resource agent (more recent than https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/master/src/ocf/rbd.in)?
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[18:01] <ramonskie> i have some incomplete pgs that still "down_osds_we_would_probe": [7] but i already set that osd to lost and removed it. in a desperate move i upgrade from firefly to giant but no success
[18:04] <ramonskie> i have some incomplete pgs and when query them they still show "down_osds_we_would_probe": [7] but i already set that osd to lost and removed it. in a desperate move i upgrade from firefly to giant but no success
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[18:12] <flaf> visualne: on my firefly, for instance, I can run: rados -p <pool> --id <ceph-account> ls -
[18:12] <flaf> (I guess it's the same for "rados put ...")
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[18:15] <visualne> flaf: ya this is an old cuttlefish cluster. I can try it
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[18:17] <flaf> In fact, it seems to me that even if this not always present in manpage, --cluster and --id options are globally predominant.
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[18:18] <flaf> s/predominant/ omnipresent/
[18:18] <kraken> flaf meant to say: In fact, it seems to me that even if this not always present in manpage, --cluster and --id options are globally omnipresent.
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[19:02] <visualne> hello, I am seeing quite a few of these when doing ceph -w [WRN] slow request 190072.905836 seconds old,
[19:02] <visualne> tons of them
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[19:16] <visualne> I am also seeing block devices attached to vms completely loose communication with the vm that they are attched to for some reason
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[20:07] <georgem> Hi, can anybody help me configure radosgw with keystone?
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[20:32] <visualne> Lots of slow requests. Lots of them, and I noticed when I start doing any sort of large writes to some attached volumes in my openstack cloud I will get kernel panic because the vm looses communication with the hard drive
[20:32] <kraken> http://i.imgur.com/WS4S2.gif
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[20:52] <georgem> I have radosgw working with a user created using radosgw-admin, and if I try this command it works: swift -V 1 -A http://ceph1/auth -U george:swift -K '9nNfBb5nJWDObX3D92+cQU3/l40IHiyhN1TfQnx+' list
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[20:55] <georgem> never mind, I got it working
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[23:19] <zapotah> if there is a pool with initially one osd and you specify the size of the pool to be 3 with min size 1, will it replicate and distribute the data later when you add more osds? (im migrating from some local storage to ceph storage on the fly so to speak)
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