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IRC Log for 2015-02-05

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[1:29] * Topic is 'http://ceph.com/get || dev channel #ceph-devel || test lab channel #sepia'
[1:29] * Set by sage!~quassel@2605:e000:8548:ba00:230:48ff:fed3:6786 on Tue Jan 06 21:49:19 CET 2015
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[1:30] <- *Knorrie* d
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[6:26] <nigwil> is there a CLI option to get back the device used by an OSD?
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[6:50] <dmick> ceph-disk list
[6:51] <nigwil> perfect thanks.
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[6:51] <dmick> ideally one day we'd have that info queryable from the cluster, but not as yet. You can get the mountpoints with ceph osd metadata <n>
[6:53] <nigwil> ok, that latter command must be after dumpling...
[6:53] <dmick> everything's after dumpling dude :)
[6:54] <nigwil> :-) yep I'm a bit behind in my upgrades
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[7:57] <Be-El> hi
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[8:29] <SamYaple> hello Be-El
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[10:30] <krypt0> document says about creating odd number of monitors..what will happen if one monitor goes down ie with even number of active monitors
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[10:37] <derjohn_mob> krypt0, that's the idea... if there are >50% of the mons available, they know that the Rest will not alter data.
[10:38] <derjohn_mob> kraken, with an odd number, you can't make a 50/50 election. You always have one side > 50%.
[10:39] <derjohn_mob> krypt0, and the mons know how many other mons _should_ be there.
[10:40] <krypt0> thanks derjohn_mob :)
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[10:41] <krypt0> if i have servers with 6gbps controller can the total throughput of cluster exceeds this value by writing parallely to different clusters
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[10:45] <derjohn_mob> krypt0, yes, AFAIK it can. Ceph will shard you e.g. blockdevice amoung all disks (osds) in the cluster and read/write parallely form all the osds. NB: With 6gbps controller you mean the IO controller, not the NIC ?
[10:48] <krypt0> yes disk controller i have 10Gbps NIC
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[11:32] <sc-rm> Hi, if I have remove all osd???s from a given host and it does not exists anymore and I want to get rid of it from # ceph osd tree
[11:32] <sc-rm> how do I do so?
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[11:33] <classicsnail> http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/add-or-rm-osds/#removing-osds-manual
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[11:44] <Be-El> is it possible to access data on a radosgw without using the gateway itself? i'm currently designing an application that should allow users to upload data and start processing them on a compute cluster
[11:44] <Be-El> the cluster has access to ceph itself, so it does not need to retrieve all data via radosgw
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[11:59] <lorlor> Is there qemu rpms for centos 7?
[11:59] <lorlor> I only see for centos 6.5 http://ceph.com/packages/ceph-extras/rpm/rhel6/x86_64/
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[13:18] <bobrik> does anyone know how to fix this? https://github.com/Ulexus/docker-ceph/issues/8
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[14:03] <ZyTer> hi
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[14:04] <ZyTer> i wish create some File system on ssd disk for journal, 2 partitions
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[14:05] <ZyTer> could you tell me if there is an document for that ( xfs option, or ceph option for 2 partitions) i found some doc but for an entire disk...
[14:07] <Be-El> ZyTer: you can use partitions directly without a filesystem
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[14:07] <ZyTer> Be-El: ok ! great :)
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[14:40] <flaf> Hi, do you known the command with radosgw-admin to get the owner of a specific bucket?
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[14:42] <flaf> (I use ceph Firefly and I see nothing the the man page of radosgw-admin)
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[15:07] <analbeard> wondering if anyone could help me out with some stuck pgs here? a disk died (osd 6) so it got replaced, but in the meantime a new osd was added which took its id. i've now got some stuck pgs, all of which were on osd.6 as far as i can tell.
[15:07] <analbeard> snip of ceph pg dump is here: http://pastebin.com/uLrYqNXq
[15:07] <analbeard> i've run pg force_create_pg on them all, and now they're stuck at creating
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[15:09] <Be-El> the pgs in the dump are all active+clean
[15:10] <analbeard> yes, which is even more confusing
[15:10] <Be-El> did you try to run pg repair on one of them?
[15:11] <Be-El> if you have a valid quorum (odd number of replicates), repair may trigger a copy
[15:11] <Be-El> but that's just my assumption
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[15:11] <analbeard> ok, tried that - "Error EAGAIN: pg 0.760 has no primary osd"
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[15:14] <analbeard> i've updated the paste with the output of ceph pg dump_stuck
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[15:15] <boichev> Hello, currently I have 1 ceph node with 1 mon and 3 OSDs(total 6tb) with replicated size 1. If I add another host with 2 more OSDs (total 8 tb) and make the replicated size = 2 and then add two more monitors (one on the second host and one on the openstack controller node).After the rebalacing/cloning of data, will I be able to stop the first host with the 3 OSDs for maintenance ?
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[15:21] <Be-El> boichev: yes and no
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[15:22] <Be-El> boichev: the default rules for distributing replicates use different hosts. you have 2 hosts and a replicate number of 2, so that should be ok
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[15:22] <Be-El> boichev: but you will not be able to use the complete available storage size of the cluster, since one host only has an accumulated size of tb
[15:22] <Be-El> +6
[15:23] <Be-El> so you can only store 6 tb on the cluster
[15:23] <Be-El> boichev: but the configuration should be fine for taking down a single host for maintenance
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[15:27] <boichev> Be-El thanks my overall plan is to completly remove the virst host because he is too old and will be replaced with a newer one like the host I'm adding.
[15:29] <boichev> Be-El can you explain to me how the reads are going back to the client ? If I read a lot from a PG will ceph balance the reads from the primary PG and from the replicas ?
[15:30] <boichev> because I suppose the writes should go only to the primary PG and from there to the secondary, but I'm not sure for the reads.....
[15:31] <Be-El> boichev: as far as i know all interaction is done with the primary osd by defalt, including reads
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[15:31] <Be-El> boichev: but implementations may use the pg map to contact other osds, too
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[15:32] <Be-El> btw: if you want to remove the first host, you should also set min_size to 1. this will allow you to continue writing to the then single instances of pgs after the first host is gone
[15:33] <Be-El> although the overall setup is recommended. a single failure (disk/host) will be fatal for the data after the host is removed
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[15:34] <Be-El> and min_size 1 might also be dangerous if one host is not available for a short time, since the replicates may be out of sync. only use it if you need write access after the first host is removed and you haven't changed size back to 1
[15:35] <boichev> Be-El hmmm can I somehow tell ceph that the primary group is on host2
[15:35] <Be-El> you might also think about keeping two replicates and distribute them accross the osds in the second host
[15:35] <Be-El> boichev: you can set an affinity for primary osds.
[15:36] <Be-El> see http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/crush-map/
[15:36] <boichev> Be-El ok I'm writing this down to take a look at it. First to add the monitors and the second node.
[15:39] <flaf> Ah, Sorry, finally I have found on the web for my question:
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[15:39] <flaf> radosgw-admin bucket stats --bucket=$bucket_name --id=$raodos_id
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[15:39] <flaf> and I have info about the bucket (owner included)
[15:41] <boichev> Be-El one more question currently I have the ceph-deploy dir in root because I used it for simplicity ... If I move it to another user all used with sudo without password and passwordless ssh auth on all nodes will it work as normal ?
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[15:42] <boichev> I mean ceph osd create will be ok from there with the other user not root
[15:42] <Be-El> boichev: i haven't used cph-deploy yet
[15:43] <boichev> Be-El hmmm or passwordless auth with root :? :(
[15:44] <Be-El> boichev: i'm using puppet for automated setup or manual ssh access for more complicated setups
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[15:44] <Be-El> boichev: but since ceph-deploy is just ssh + convenience, it should work as a non-root user, too
[15:45] <boichev> Be-El I suppose that too
[15:45] <alfredodeza> boichev: ceph-deploy can use any user to connect via ssh (just like ssh)
[15:45] <alfredodeza> doesn't matter what user you are
[15:45] <alfredodeza> you can specify a different user (by default uses the same user, again, just like ssh)
[15:46] <boichev> alfredodeza thanks :)
[15:46] <alfredodeza> np
[15:46] <boichev> ceph really needs a forum on their site..... I will be sitting there all day
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[16:03] <Supermathie> boichev, hmmmm it would be nice to spin up a Discourse forum for it? I'm also planning on using Ceph for Discourse :D
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[19:07] <ron-slc> I may have found a possible bug, in the way max_osd is handled
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[19:09] <ron-slc> If I define an osd, for example osd.300 in ceph.conf, and set max_osd = 300. The launch of ceph-osd -i 300 stops at: done with init, starting boot process
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[19:11] <ron-slc> The monitors do not show the osd.300 boot, or up/in happening, nor the osdmap increment
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[19:12] <ron-slc> BUT.... If I set max_osd > 300, for example 301. Boot, and osdmap increments on the create, and up/in
[19:13] <ron-slc> In looking at monitor logs, the logging also notates osd.id >= max_osd, but in-fact, this is behaving that osd.id must BE LESS than max_osd
[19:14] <ron-slc> using latest firefly 0.80.8
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[19:21] <gdoteof> so i've never heard of ceph until like 3 minutes ago. i'm trying to figure out how to share data between coreos nodes
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[19:26] <ron-slc> gdoteof: to equate it to traditional storage. RBD provides functionality similar to a shared BLOCK storage system, like a SAN. CephFS provides FILE+Metadata services, similar to NFS/Samba, Rados-Gateway provides OBJECT storage services similar to Amazon S3
[19:27] <ron-slc> All of this functionality is built on-top of the replicated and redundant Ceph network clustered storage system.
[19:27] <ron-slc> the modern buzz-word is "Software defined storage"
[19:28] <gdoteof> ron-slc: yes; i think what i want is a shared block storage system. preferably, something that provides some redundancy without just mirroring data betweena ll nodes; and preferably a single virtual disk that all nodes can read from
[19:29] <gdoteof> and then, (obviously?) caching to the local node if it needs to access off-node data
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[19:29] <gdoteof> something like that would make me very happy
[19:31] <ron-slc> gdoteof: RBD, when _sharing_ a block system, doesn't overcome the complexities of multiple servers sharing a single block file system. You would still need something like OCFS2, or GFS2
[19:32] <ron-slc> It is VERY like a SAN. where it provides shared access to spans of blocks. There is no OS interaction to ensure EXT4 on one server doesn't crush the EXT4 on another server (which has mounted the exact same RBD image.)
[19:33] <ron-slc> filesystems+metadata are a BIT#%
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[22:08] <ShaunR> what do you guys normally see out of a SATA, 7200 RPM, drive when you run a `ceph tell osd.X bench` on it
[22:08] <ShaunR> i've got 3 servers all with the same hardware, and drives, and for whatever reason 1 of the servers benches about 33% faster than the others
[22:09] <ShaunR> actually almost twice as fast
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[23:28] <cholcombe973> ceph: is there a deb package for the latest hammer build?
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[23:34] <cholcombe973> nevermind :)
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