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IRC Log for 2014-08-13

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[0:00] <yuriw> loicd: it looks like both are on close watch by Sage.
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[0:10] <joshd> gleam: you can use packages of the firefly branch to fix that in ~30 min http://ceph.com/docs/master/install/get-packages/#add-ceph-development
[0:12] <gleam> cool, i'll give it a go tonight probably. will i need to upgrade any of my ceph cluster, or should everything be reasonably backwards compatible?
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[0:14] <joshd> gleam: you can just upgrade librbd1 for minimal change (it's in the dumpling branch too if you're using that)
[0:14] <gleam> nope, firefly, that's great
[0:15] <gleam> thank you kindly, i'll let you know
[0:15] <joshd> you're welcome, though I'll be gone the next couple weeks
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[0:17] <anth1y> is there any documentation for radosgw-agent
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[0:23] <anth1y> anyone?
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[0:25] <ircolle> anth1y - what do you want to know?
[0:26] <anth1y> well the origin of my question was how to backup rados
[0:27] <anth1y> someone pointed me to radosgw-agent
[0:27] <ircolle> You can do multisite http://www.ceph.com/docs/master/radosgw/federated-config/#multi-site-data-replication
[0:28] <anth1y> ok
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[0:28] <`h`e`y`l`a`d`i`e`s`> is it safe to mount an rbd to two mount points at once, if the second one is read only?
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[0:32] <anth1y> @ircolle so basically if i understand this coorectly I would use radosgw-agent to sync / backup the data between say a prod $ENV and dr $ENV
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[0:34] <ircolle> anth1y - yes
[0:34] <anth1y> thanks
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[0:46] <iggy> `h`e`y`l`a`d`i`e`s`: not really... you need a cluster fs (gfs, ocfs, etc) for that
[0:50] <`h`e`y`l`a`d`i`e`s`> iggy: is the danger corrupting the image, or just that they won't be synced
[0:50] <iggy> could be either way... some journaling filesystems will replay journals no matter the read only status
[0:51] <iggy> but definitely the "read only" one would eventually get hosed because on disk data would be changing under neath it
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[1:00] <`h`e`y`l`a`d`i`e`s`> thanks
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[1:39] <bens> welcome back, me
[1:39] <bens> i am getting an auth error every 5 seconds from like 60/72 of my OSDs
[1:39] <bens> I am confused by this
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[3:22] <longguang> hi
[3:25] <longguang> if osd's journal is lost before replayed ,can the osd can start up and work normally?
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[3:34] <iggy> longguang: one of the other replicas should have the data
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[3:39] <gleam> joshd: between those two patches (to nova and to firefly) everything is working properly with rbd for ephemeral :) of course, nova/cinder can't seem to tell libvirt to attach the disk with discard, but otherwise all is well
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[3:40] <joshd> gleam: great! glad to hear it
[3:40] <gleam> thank you kindly for all your help
[3:41] <joshd> you're welcome
[3:41] <gleam> any idea when we'll see the next firefly release?
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[3:58] <longguang> iggy: yes,but journal only includes meta operations which are in order.
[3:59] <longguang> i now do not know how it catchs up epoch.
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[4:37] <jobewan> anyone here use ceph rbd for esxi storage?
[4:38] <jobewan> I'd like to setup a 2 host cluster w/ corosync and export the kernel mounts via nfs, just curious if anyone has tried it and what their findings were.
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[6:12] <iggy> jobewan: you mean cephfs? I wouldn't... there are some people exporting rbd devices as iscsi though
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[11:37] <mgarcesMZ> hi guys
[11:37] <mgarcesMZ> hi alfredodeza, thank you for the helping tweets :)
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[13:41] <alfredodeza> hey mgarcesMZ, no problem
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[15:19] <alfredodeza> mgarcesMZ: ping
[15:20] <alfredodeza> mgarcesMZ: ceph-deploy with the CentOS7 fix has been released (1.5.11)
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[15:25] <mgarcesMZ> alfredodeza: nice!
[15:26] <mgarcesMZ> what about the radosgw-agents, mod_fastcgi and apache ?
[15:27] <alfredodeza> I am not sure?
[15:27] <alfredodeza> can you remind me what those are about?
[15:27] <alfredodeza> ceph-deploy doesn't do anything with those
[15:27] <ircolle> rgw uses those, alfredodeza
[15:27] <ircolle> and apparently they were not packaged for RHEL7/CentOS7
[15:28] <ircolle> houkouonchi-home, houkouonchi-work should work on that today
[15:28] <alfredodeza> ah
[15:28] * alfredodeza just connected the dots
[15:28] <alfredodeza> I thought there was something ceph-deploy-related to those
[15:28] <alfredodeza> !excuse
[15:28] <kraken> What did you type in wrong to get it to crash?
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[15:30] <mgarcesMZ> alfredodeza: those are just used in the tutorial to make radosgw work :)
[15:31] <mgarcesMZ> and since I need 2 datacenters with radosgw in federated mode, I need those agents
[15:31] <mgarcesMZ> alfredodeza: do you also do those builds?
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[15:32] <alfredodeza> I don't think I have before, no
[15:32] <mgarcesMZ> :)
[15:32] <mgarcesMZ> do you know who did in the past?
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[15:39] <alfredodeza> mgarcesMZ: I think houkouonchi-home will work on those
[15:39] <mgarcesMZ> hello houkouonchi-home
[15:39] <mgarcesMZ> :)
[15:40] <alfredodeza> mgarcesMZ: he is not in yet
[15:40] <alfredodeza> but he will work on those today
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[15:49] <mgarcesMZ> oh great
[15:49] <mgarcesMZ> you guys roc
[15:49] <mgarcesMZ> *rock
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[15:49] <mgarcesMZ> so tomorrow I will test everything again in el7
[15:49] <mgarcesMZ> (centos 7)
[15:50] <mgarcesMZ> I was trying to use fedora 19 (since it has all the packages available) but I am running into some other issues
[15:50] <mgarcesMZ> and fedora guys tell me to upgrade do fc20 :P
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[16:54] <kitz> ganders: are you getting warn_alloc_failed messages in your syslog?
[16:55] <kitz> I was having the same "nothing going on" trouble and found that when that happened one of my OSD nodes was giving a lot of those errors. That would then be followed by a bunch of OSDs being marked down and then coming right back.
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[17:02] <ganders> kitz: let me check that out
[17:03] <ganders> kitz: I'm seeing this msg: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=91JT5cYg
[17:04] <kitz> hum... doesn't look like the same thing... What OS are you running?
[17:05] <ganders> Ubuntu 14.04LTS
[17:05] <ganders> kern: 3.15.0
[17:05] <kitz> I'm on the same.
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[17:07] <ganders> kitz: on one of the OSD servers I'm seeing this: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=S86gNMqj
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[17:08] <kitz> Anyway... I found this ( http://serverfault.com/questions/236170/page-allocation-failure-am-i-running-out-of-memory ) old page about 1Gb networking which seemed to actually relate. I bumped vm.min_free_kbytes from 88MB to 512MB and the trouble seems to have gone away.
[17:09] <kitz> if you run top and then press 1 to get 1 line per cpu do you see high irq load on that node?
[17:14] <ganders> kitz: let me check
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[17:18] <ganders> kitz: for that parameter i had 90112
[17:18] <kitz> ganders: That was my default as well.
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[17:20] <kitz> That link seemed to imply that that 88MB is used for incoming network traffic. But 88MB / 10Gbps = .07 seconds of buffer which seemed a little slim to me.
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[17:21] <kitz> My nodes have 64GB and sparing 512MB didn't seem like a huge burden. I carry about 38GB of cache anyway.
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[17:21] <ganders> same condition as mine
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[17:22] <WhIteSidE> Hello all
[17:22] <WhIteSidE> I've apparently managed to get an OSD full with rgw stuff
[17:23] <WhIteSidE> I have a bucket I can delete to make space, but whenever I run a radosgw-admin command I get
[17:23] <WhIteSidE> $ radosgw-admin ... bucket list
[17:23] <WhIteSidE> 2014-08-13 11:18:19.483553 7fd693dfd820 0 client.6335.objecter FULL, paused modify 0x210dd80 tid 8
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[17:24] <WhIteSidE> Is there anyway I can just nuke the bucket and free the space back up
[17:24] <dmsimard> Anyone have experience running Ceph with Kernel 3.14 over 3.13 ? Any issues, benefits ?
[17:25] <WhIteSidE> dmsimard: I have been running with 3.15, and despite the purported issues, I've had no stability problems
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[17:26] <dmsimard> WhIteSidE: what distribution 6
[17:26] <dmsimard> ?
[17:26] <WhIteSidE> CentOS 6
[17:27] <dmsimard> 3.15 on CentOS 6 ? Damn :)
[17:27] <dmsimard> Aren't they stuck in perpetual 2.6.32 ? :)
[17:28] <WhIteSidE> ELRepo
[17:29] <WhIteSidE> YMMV, run at your own risk, might eat your data, etc
[17:29] <WhIteSidE> So, in regards to my problem: I've disabled anything that can write to ceph, and I *think* if I can change the osd full ratio a little bit, then I should be able to execute commands again
[17:29] <dmsimard> Trusty ships with 3.13 but 3.14 is released as stable by Ubuntu so I was wondering wether or not it was worth it.
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[17:37] <WhIteSidE> Okay
[17:38] <WhIteSidE> I got my full ratio changed, but now I'm getting failure(22) when trying to unlink the bucket
[17:38] <WhIteSidE> radosgw-admin --cluster mia1 --conf /etc/ceph/mia1.conf bucket unlink --bucket-id=BUCKET --purge-objects
[17:38] <WhIteSidE> failure: (22) Invalid argument
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[17:48] <WhIteSidE> Anyone?
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[17:54] <dmsimard> WhIteSidE: Welp. I guess I'll stick to 3.13 - the servers aren't booting with 3.14. :p
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[19:30] <Lyncos> Hi everyone ! I got a problem with Cephfs which is not deleting files from rados once deleted from cephfs .. is there any documentation page about config values we can tune up
[19:31] <Lyncos> Even if the file is deleted and the mount point unmounted .. the file stay in rados for ever
[19:35] <Lyncos> Running Firefly 0.80.5
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[20:00] <WhIteSidE> Bump: Anyone have any advice for radosgw-admin saying Invalid Argument when tyring to unlink a bucket?
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[20:42] <burley> kitz: Earlier you noted the page allocation failures issue -- so you tweaked vm.min_free_kbytes on the OSDs and the issue has been resolved since? I've hit the same issue in our Proof of Concept cluster and hadn't gotten to sorting cause yet -- so if that worked for you its a good sign for me
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[20:45] <jobewan> reposting this for some feedback, I think everyone may have been sleeping last night :)
[20:45] <jobewan> anyone here use ceph rbd for esxi storage?
[20:45] <jobewan> I'd like to setup a 2 host cluster w/ corosync and export the kernel mounts via nfs, just curious if anyone has tried it and what their findings were.
[20:46] <burley> I've considered doing something similar, though not for vmware -- I dont' see why it wouldn't work
[20:46] <jobewan> I don't like all of the extra FS abstraction, but I'd really like to unify our storage to just ceph for our openstack and vmware storage
[20:47] <kitz> burley: yeah. I would get a ton of failures for order 2 allocations suggesting high fragmentation / no spare mem. After increasing vm.min_free_kbytes i've had smooth sailing all day
[20:49] <burley> kitz: Happen to find a way to force the condition?
[20:49] <jobewan> I think it will work... but I'm wondering if anyone is/has done it and if it would be solid
[20:49] <jobewan> of course, if not, then it's an "ON TO THE LAB!" situation :)
[20:49] <kitz> to make the warn_alloc_failed happen? I'd just run fio for a while.
[20:49] <burley> jobewan: Well, I haven't done it yet so can't speak that strongly for it ... :)
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[20:50] <burley> kitz: Ubuntu on the OSDs?
[20:51] <rldleblanc> kitz: did you find that a particular fio load cased the problem more than others? Can you share the fio config you have been using?
[20:51] <kitz> yeah. 14.04 LTS with 3.13
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[20:51] <kitz> just 4m random writes... hold on
[20:53] <burley> I hit the issue quite a few times, but was triggered when data would need to be re-replicated -- no fio testing needed
[20:53] <kitz> rldleblanc: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jEKfCKU9
[20:53] <kitz> burley: yeah. if my cluster had been up for a while then just deep scrubbing would trip it up.
[20:54] <rldleblanc> kitz: cool, thanks. I want to run that on our lab to see if we run into the problem too.
[20:54] <burley> was swapping drives in our PoC cluster and then the OSDs would start bouncing
[20:54] <kitz> rldleblanc: np. good luck.
[20:54] <burley> page allocation failures would occur, and got some potentially interesting data in the OSD logs too
[20:55] <rldleblanc> kitz: You were just running this on an rbd? I think I may have missed that.
[20:55] <kitz> burley: what tipped me off was that when this would happen I was getting regular refreshes from atop and iostat but it was unresponsive to my input (e.g. ctrl-c)
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[20:55] <ganders> hi all, I've many "libceph: osd1 10.97.20.1:6803 socket closed (con state OPEN)", CONNECTING messages inside my syslog file on a client
[20:55] <kitz> rldleblanc: this change was made on my osd nodes. I've been running fio from a rbd client though.
[20:55] <ganders> and the performance really drops when trying to run a perf test (fio, dd, etc)
[20:56] <rldleblanc> kitz: thanks
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[20:56] <burley> ganders: Check your syslog (dmesg) output -- any page allocation failures? :)
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[20:57] <ganders> burley: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EVWX1exC
[20:58] <burley> ganders: That's from the client or the OSD?
[20:59] <ganders> client
[21:00] <ganders> burley: this is one from one of the OSD servers: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mFyQpSbU
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[21:01] <burley> rldleblanc: Here's what I would get in my ceph log when page allocation failures were getting thrown and the OSDs bouncing: http://pastebin.com/x0nEWypb
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[21:01] <burley> ganders: Looks like a different issue
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[21:03] <ganders> yeah, and actually is imposible to run a test, since the perf is below 10MB/s.... actually the last test that i made give me a b=945KB/s
[21:04] <ganders> I don't know what could be the issue here but in this conditions we can't run a cluster like that poor performance
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[21:09] <rldleblanc> burley: thanks, I'll be starting to do some performance testing/tweaking next week and I'd like to try and stress things out as much as possible.
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[21:10] <burley> was on 0.80.5 on ubuntu 14.04 (everything up to date as of last week)
[21:10] <burley> though we're ejecting ubuntu for CentOS 7 now, since we hit other issues... but if you need anything else lmk
[21:11] <burley> they aren't reloaded yet
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[21:13] <rldleblanc> We currently have our lab on CentOS6 with a local compiled version of Ceph .80.3. I think it might be best to try and get to CentOS7 (we are wanting to go that way anyway).
[21:14] <rldleblanc> Is systemd support with Ceph, it didn't seem to like systemd on my Debian Jessie install, but I see that there is systemd configs checked into git.
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[21:35] <burley> we haven't migrated the servers to centos 7 yet, just our test clients
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[22:08] <stupidnic> I am trying to understand where my bottlenecks are in Ceph. I have a 2 node cluster with 5 OSD per node. Each node is identical: quad core xeon, 32GB, 6 x 1TB SATA3, all connected with 2 x 10GbE bonded
[22:09] <stupidnic> when I run rados bench I am getting a max bandwidth of 236MB/s
[22:09] <stupidnic> which is good, but not what I was expecting from 10GbE bonded and 5 SATA disks
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[22:13] <Vacum__> stupidnic: what replica size does your test pool have? and are the osd journals colocated on the osd drives?
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[22:14] <stupidnic> Vacum__: replica size is 2, the journals are colocated, but the drives are also btrfs
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[22:14] <stupidnic> so the jounrals shouldn't be a problem
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[22:17] <stupidnic> reads are quick generally in the 1200MB/s range
[22:17] <Vacum__> stupidnic: so you get roughly 50MB/s per osd drive. and 480MB/s network traffic due to replication. not too bad for 2 machines? did you measure where the bottleneck is when writing?
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[22:19] <stupidnic> how would I measure that exactly?
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[22:24] <stupidnic> Vacum__: also the cluster has a separate cluster network so the replication traffic is off the interfaces that are handling the client traffic
[22:24] <stupidnic> I guess I am curious to know how Ceph handles replication.
[22:25] <gleam> in what sense?
[22:25] <stupidnic> While a client is writing to the OSD is the OSD already replicating data? Is there contention for the underlying drives IO?
[22:28] <stupidnic> I guess I want to know... should I be adding RAID to the drives and just using OSDs on the RAID array? A RAID10 with SATA disks can do 450MB/s w/ 4 x SATA drives
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[22:44] <ganders> question: i've reboot a client host, and the boot freeze with the messages "libceph: connect 10.xx.xx.xx:6789 error -101", what does this mean? besides that the server hang out
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