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IRC Log for 2014-07-25

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[0:54] <ircolle> http://www.redhat.com/about/news/archive/2014/7/ceph-project-leader-sage-weil-recognized-for-decade-long-commitment-to-open-source
[0:58] <Serbitar> 404
[0:58] <ircolle> hrm
[1:02] <Serbitar> 20 nmow
[1:02] <Serbitar> 200
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[1:05] <WhIteSidE> Quick question in regards to changing pg_num. Sebastian Han (http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2013/03/12/ceph-change-pg-number-on-the-fly/) reccomends making a copy of the pool, copying it over and then changing then renaming the new pool.
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[1:05] <WhIteSidE> Is this still the reccomended method (with 0.80.4)?
[1:05] <WhIteSidE> Or is it safe to just 'osd pool set ...'?
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[1:06] <Kioob> I don't know if it's "safe", but it works on 0.80.4
[1:06] <WhIteSidE> Okay
[1:07] <WhIteSidE> Thanks
[1:07] <Kioob> If I well remember, you have to carefully increase it by small step
[1:07] <WhIteSidE> And the advice is still 100 pgs/OSD rounded up to a powere of two?
[1:07] <WhIteSidE> Oh, so just one power of two at a time?
[1:07] <Kioob> Yes
[1:07] <WhIteSidE> Cool, thanks
[1:08] <Kioob> because it will throw a lot of writes
[1:08] <Kioob> (data moving)
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[1:47] <WhIteSidE> Kioob: Thanks a lot
[1:47] <WhIteSidE> I've done the first increase, and now it's telling me pg_num is greater than pgp_num
[1:47] <WhIteSidE> I'm guessing I up pgp_num incrementally as well
[1:47] <WhIteSidE> And then rinse and repeat until I get to the new desired numbers?
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[2:10] <Kioob> Yes WhIteSidE
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[5:24] <hai> Hi, the ceph if support online snapshot of KVM Qcow2 format ? thanks a lot!
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[5:32] <hai> Hi, the ceph if support online snapshot of KVM Qcow2 format ? thanks a lot!
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[7:11] <hai> Hi, the ceph if support online snapshot of KVM Qcow2 format ? thanks a lot!
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[10:08] <PVi1> Hi all, what does this mean? filestore queue committing max ops (The maximum number of operations the filestore can commit.) Do we speak about write or read operations or?
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[10:43] <jyc_> Hi
[10:43] <jyc_> is there anybody ?
[10:45] <jyc_> i have a question, and maybe you'll be able to answer me. i 've tested a few distributed filesystem, and almost all of them have poor perfomance with very small files
[10:46] <jyc_> for instance, on a moosefs, a svn up last for 11 min, when it use to take 30s on a sata hdd. you know, very small files...
[10:46] <jyc_> what experience do you have with very small files on ceph ?
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[10:57] <leseb> jyc_: hi, very few people are using cephfs at the moment, I'm not if you'll find a lot of answers
[10:58] <leseb> jyc_: but 11min sounds quite long (depending of the amount of files abviously)
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[11:11] <Kioob> hu ho... by using qdisk driver, Xen domU doesn't detect anymore RBD resizing.... I have to reboot the VM :(
[11:11] <tnt_> Oh really ? I never tried this at all.
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[11:12] <Kioob> yes, it's not a big deal on my test cluster, but this feature is very usefull
[11:13] <tnt_> mm, I don't really try resizing a FS while it's mounted anyway ...
[11:13] <tnt_> s/try/trust/g
[11:13] <kraken> tnt_ meant to say: mm, I don't really trust/g resizing a FS while it's mounted anyway ...
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[11:13] <tnt_> kraken: no I didn't ...
[11:14] <tnt_> the /g is for 'global' :p
[11:14] <tnt_> someone need to update the bot with full regexp syntax.
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[11:15] <Kioob> ;)
[11:15] <Kioob> well on VM I often do resizing on running FS
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[11:45] <ibuclaw> Hi, has something changed on the ceph repo?
[11:46] <ibuclaw> I'm getting connection timeout on the local mirror
[11:46] <ibuclaw> rsync: failed to connect to ceph.com (208.113.241.137): Connection timed out (110)
[11:46] <ibuclaw> rsync: failed to connect to ceph.com (2607:f298:4:147::b05:fe2a): Network is unreachable (101)
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[13:06] <oomkiller> jyc_ I could test it, if you provide a .tar.gz archive which I can download with http (the only way my test cluster is able to get stuff of wan) und unpack it on cephfs
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[13:17] <jtaguinerd1> hi guys, i'm getting pg has no primary osd when i try to scrub a certain pg. Is there a way to fix that?
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[14:05] <alfredodeza> tnt_: but that wouldn't be full regexp syntax (the '/g' is a sed/vi/perlism thing) no?
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[14:06] <tnt_> Well, the whole 's/AAA/BBB/' is not really a regexp. only AAA is technically the regexp.
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[14:11] <alfredodeza> tnt_: there is a ticket open with a pull request ready to be merged, but alas, no tests
[14:13] <D-Spair> It's really nice when people contribute code, but as a maintainer on other projects myself . . . Test are required!
[14:13] <kalleh> Hi, we're running the lastest ceph 0.80.4 and are having some problems with multipart uploads on the radosgw, getting http error 400. tried apache2 LimitRequestBody, different chunk size and much other things. Anyone have an idea?
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[14:15] <D-Spair> Wow... I have been compiling Ceph's master branch all night... This little SoC is not well suited for compiler tasks...
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[14:18] <janos_> alfredodeza, '/g' is also a javascriptism
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[14:19] <alfredodeza> doesn't vi predate JS janos_?
[14:19] <alfredodeza> :)
[14:19] <janos_> true!
[14:19] <joao> I believe vi predates the universe itself
[14:19] <alfredodeza> D-Spair no worries, I am writing the tests right now, so we will have this fixed soon
[14:19] <alfredodeza> !norris joao
[14:19] <kraken> joao has already been to Mars; that's why there are no signs of life.
[14:19] <alfredodeza> thanks kraken
[14:19] * kraken is overpowered by the profound assertion of appreciation
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[14:23] <swami> I am looking for S3 API support in CEPH...a couples S3 APIs not supported. Any one has an idea on that like when those un supprted S3 APIs will be supported?
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[14:32] <dmsimard> Happy Sysadmin day :)
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[15:11] <oro> hi all. AFter setting up everything as the docs instruct, using manual deployment, my problem is that on CentOS 6.5 the init script says: # /etc/init.d/ceph start osd.0
[15:11] <oro> /etc/init.d/ceph: osd.0 not found (/etc/ceph/ceph.conf defines , /var/lib/ceph defines )
[15:12] <oro> any ideas?
[15:12] <oro> should I add ths osd defs to /etc/ceph/ceph.conf manually? or what I am missing here?
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[15:13] <oro> under /var/lib/ceph I have a correct keyring, etc.
[15:13] <oro> # head -n1 /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/keyring
[15:13] <oro> [osd.0]
[15:14] <oro> ls /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/keyring
[15:14] <oro> /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-0/keyring
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[15:23] <jyc_> oomkiller : for example : time git clone https://github.com/mongodb/mongo.git real 15m38.531s
[15:24] <oro> simply running `ceph-osd --id 0` seems working, but why it's not working from the init script?
[15:24] <jyc_> on a 100 TB moosefs cluster
[15:25] <jyc_> can anyone try this git clone on his ceph, and tell me ?
[15:26] <jyc_> moosefs handle very badly very very small files. I just want to known how ceph handle these same small files
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[15:52] <tchmnkyz> happy sysadmin day to all sysadmins out there!
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[20:18] <eternaleye> janos_: alfredodeza: In fact, the s/.../g syntax goes all the way back to 'ed', the original line editor - which both sed and vi were inspired by.
[20:19] <janos_> wow
[20:19] <eternaleye> janos_: alfredodeza: See 'info Ed', under 'Commands', '(.,.)s /RE/REPLACEMENT/g'
[20:19] <alfredodeza> eternaleye: and you would be absolutely right sir
[20:19] <eternaleye> So it's about as old as regexes themselves, really :D
[20:20] <alfredodeza> but! they are not regex syntax though
[20:20] <eternaleye> True, they're a behavioral modifier
[20:21] <alfredodeza> I love the 'c' in vim where you get confirmation before attempting to modify a match
[20:21] <eternaleye> Or rather, they're _invocation_ syntax rather than part of the rexex grammar
[20:21] <eternaleye> *regex
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[20:34] <eternaleye> Ed's actually suprisingly decent to use, for its reputation.
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[20:49] <alfredodeza> it is fantastic to use if you know vi. vi is fantastic
[20:49] <alfredodeza> s/vi/vim/g
[20:49] <kraken> alfredodeza meant to say: it is fantastic to use if you know vim. vim is fantastic
[20:50] <alfredodeza> eternaleye, tnt_: bot now knows how to do flags ^ ^
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[21:08] <eternaleye> Nice :D
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[21:18] <alfredodeza> eternaleye: don't get fancy though
[21:18] <alfredodeza> just 'g' and 'i' :)
[21:18] <eternaleye> alfredodeza: Is the bot code up somewhere?
[21:19] <alfredodeza> eternaleye: Updated Invitation: Engineering Team Weekly Meeting @ Weekly from 7pm to 8pm on Friday (Technical Team)
[21:19] <alfredodeza> err
[21:19] <alfredodeza> wrong paste
[21:19] <eternaleye> heh
[21:19] * alfredodeza apologizes
[21:19] <alfredodeza> eternaleye: https://github.com/shaunduncan/helga/
[21:20] <eternaleye> alfredodeza: Just a heads up, since Python uses libpcre (and thus NFA/backtracking) if someone wants to they can make your bot devour your ram.
[21:21] <gchristensen> s/ / /
[21:21] <alfredodeza> oh you guys are getting so silly now
[21:21] * gchristensen wasn't sure how far back the bot would look for hte message
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[21:22] <eternaleye> http://www.regular-expressions.info/catastrophic.html
[21:22] * alfredodeza confirms mongodb is using it all
[21:22] <eternaleye> Nobody's used a regex that would do it; just wanted to be sure you knew
[21:23] <eternaleye> It's not something likely to happen by accident
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[21:24] <eternaleye> but against (say) 'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab', the regex (a+a+)+b would get violent.
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[21:25] <gchristensen> will the bot's s/... syntax handle proper regexen?
[21:25] <alfredodeza> gchristensen: yes
[21:26] <gchristensen> sounds like we should test this for great science :|
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[21:27] <alfredodeza> I don't think it does true regex search and replace it is just a dumbed down way of handling
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[21:34] <thiago> Ceph Docs says: "Important You must deploy at least one metadata server to use CephFS. There is experimental support for running multiple metadata servers. Do not run multiple metadata servers in production."
[21:34] <thiago> So for now I keep having a single point of failure in my cluster. Right?
[21:36] <gchristensen> correct
[21:36] <gchristensen> note also that cephfs is not marked as stable
[21:47] <thiago> Thanks
[21:48] <cookednoodles> and by not stable, the word they mean is 'crash happy'
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[22:26] <jiffe> Error ENOENT: osd.0 does not exist. create it before updating the crush map
[22:27] <jiffe> what exactly does that mean?
[22:27] <jiffe> I followed http://eu.ceph.com/docs/wip-6919/start/quick-start/ to set everything up locally on one machine and got this when trying to start ceph
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[22:53] <eternaleye> alfredodeza: Would you mind if I tested?
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[23:05] <dmick> jiffe: those are ancient docs. Try http://ceph.com/docs/master/start/ instead
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