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IRC Log for 2014-07-20

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[0:31] <seapasulli> I upgraded my ceph cluster toceph version 0.82-524-gbf04897 (bf048976f50bd0142f291414ea893ef0f205b51a)
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[0:32] <seapasulli> now out of nowhere a bunch of osds are failing and I am not able to restart them
[0:32] <seapasulli> http://pastebin.com/qcYrdQKj
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[12:02] <lxmyers> Hello, I was hoping to get some information for a distributed storage system I am trying to put together. Am I able to ask questions here?
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[12:38] <mrjack_> lxmyers: it seems you are able to ask questions here...
[12:39] <Sysadmin88> best to ask, it may be sunday but someone might be around
[12:42] <cookednoodles> I thought one of the 1st rules of irc is to not ask to ask a question
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[13:25] <lxmyers> Ok, I was actually just wanting to confirm whether Ceph is overkill for a small system (three physical hosts, each with 12 drives)? The system will be used as storage for a large home theatre system, files ranging from 1MB to 40GB with relativly low traffic.
[13:25] <lxmyers> Thank you for your help in advance.
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[13:45] <longguang> hi
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[13:56] <Sysadmin88> ceph scales to the hardware you give it
[13:57] <Sysadmin88> the problem you might have with so many drives in so few hosts is if one host fails you will have lots to heal...
[13:58] <Sysadmin88> make sure you have enough RAM to run 12 OSDs per host as well :)
[13:59] <lxmyers> Are the individual drives presented to the host or is it better to RAID the drives and present one virtual disk (per host)?
[13:59] <Sysadmin88> ceph recommends one OSD per disk
[13:59] <lxmyers> Ok.
[14:00] <Sysadmin88> if one disk fails, rather have 4tb of HDD to fix rather than a whole array which could be much bigger
[14:00] <lxmyers> Good point.
[14:01] <Sysadmin88> what spec servers are you planning?
[14:01] <longguang> who could explain the rpc calls from rbd_client to rbd server. and what is rbd server , i mean which process respond to rpc calls???
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[14:03] <lxmyers> Each server is an Dell R510 with 12 x 3TB Drives, Quad Core 2.0Ghz CPU and 32GB Memory. There is also space for a couple of SSD's which i was hoping maybe could be used for caching...
[14:04] <Sysadmin88> high end, how much power does that suck down?
[14:05] <lxmyers> More than I'd like it too... UPS says a little under 1500W with all three running...
[14:05] <lxmyers> Would it be possible (a good idea) to start the system with one physical host and then bring another host online each time the current configuration reaches capacity?
[14:05] <Sysadmin88> your power bill will be high...
[14:05] <lxmyers> Yah!
[14:05] <Sysadmin88> your replication will probably not like having one host...
[14:06] <Sysadmin88> you seen the new Atom server CPUs? low power and i've seen one board with 12 sata ports
[14:07] <lxmyers> Interesting. How much compute power is normally required per server?
[14:07] <Sysadmin88> depends on whats in it
[14:07] <lxmyers> ...or is that a "How long is a peice of string" question...
[14:07] <Sysadmin88> http://ark.intel.com/products/65470/Intel-Atom-Processor-D2550-(1M-Cache-1_86-GHz)
[14:08] <Sysadmin88> thats thre quad... they do 8 core versions
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[14:09] <Sysadmin88> there are performance benchmarks of those against other Xeons to compare online. something might be worth considering
[14:10] <lxmyers> That might be worth a look. Seems like a more viable option for SOHO use.
[14:11] <Sysadmin88> http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=C2550D4I# will be my next upgrade
[14:12] <lxmyers> Thats a bit cool. Any thoughts on a case for something like that?
[14:13] <Sysadmin88> depends what you need... rack/tower/hotswap etc
[14:16] <lxmyers> Preferrable Rack with hotswap. Sorry, wasn't clear, I already have the the dell equipment.
[14:17] <lxmyers> It would be interesting to work out how much i could save on the power bill changing to a low power cpu/motherboard combination.
[14:17] <lxmyers> Random question, should the operating system be installed on a seperate drive?
[14:17] <Sysadmin88> for mine i know a supplier who does 2u and 4u hotswap cases
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[14:28] <lxmyers> Sorry to ask again, should the operating system be installed on a seperate drive? Or can the OS partition and a "storage" partition exist on the same physical drive?
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[14:32] <cookednoodles> you just need to remember that you lose IOPS
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[14:33] <lxmyers> Ok, so OS on SSD? and keep "storage" drives seperate.
[14:33] <cookednoodles> I don't get why people are so obsessed with putting the os on an ssd
[14:33] <cookednoodles> its not going to be rebooted :P
[14:33] <cookednoodles> if anything, save the ssd for your journal
[14:33] <lxmyers> Sysadmin: Just been havin a look throught the ASRockRack site, they have some seriously cool stuff. Cheers for the heads up.
[14:34] <Sysadmin88> for media server... probably not writing that much
[14:34] <cookednoodles> thing is asrock isn't cheap
[14:34] <Sysadmin88> and a dead SSD could affect multiple OSDs
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[14:34] <cookednoodles> compared to supermicro etc.. its slightly cheaper and less support
[14:37] <lxmyers> Not really, much more reading than writing. Ok, ssd for the journal. Does all network traffic pass through the OS drive? Is the read/write speeds of the system limited by the speed of the OS drive?
[14:38] <cookednoodles> why would network traffic pass via the os drive ? :D
[14:38] <cookednoodles> Ceph -> Journal -> storage drive
[14:38] <cookednoodles> the journal and the storage drives are your bottleknecks
[14:38] <Sysadmin88> and network
[14:40] <lxmyers> Ok.
[14:42] <cookednoodles> I don't even have os drives anymore :P
[14:43] <Sysadmin88> USB or pxe boot?
[14:43] <lxmyers> How does that work? please excuse my ignorance.
[14:43] <cookednoodles> pxe boot to nfs
[14:46] <lxmyers> Interesting. I'll definately look into that.
[14:46] <lxmyers> Its a little past my bedtime, thank you both very much for your help.
[14:46] <lxmyers> Greatly appreciated.
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[19:57] <Anakron> Hello everybody. Does somebody know if it is possible to use mount.cephfs with an erasure coded pool?
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