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IRC Log for 2014-07-16

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[2:44] <Wings> Hey there
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[3:32] <Wings> http://pastebin.com/fRsqin2x
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[3:34] <Wings> ^ anyone help me understand why my freshly deployed test cluster is unclean?
[3:34] <Wings> HEALTH_WARN 192 pgs degraded; 192 pgs stuck unclean
[3:35] <gchristensen> Wings: do you have enough osds to properly replicate your data? :/
[3:35] * gchristensen guesses
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[3:37] <Wings> gchristensen: 2 OSDs
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[3:37] <Wings> following this guide: http://ceph.com/docs/master/start/quick-ceph-deploy/
[3:38] <Wings> (I'm at step 9).
[3:41] <lurbs> Default number of replicas in Firefly (0.80.x) is three.
[3:41] <lurbs> So you may need to drop that to two, if you only have the two OSDs.
[3:42] <lurbs> Also, are the OSDs on different hosts?
[3:43] <lurbs> http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/pools/#set-the-number-of-object-replicas
[3:45] <Wings> lurbs: yes, the guide made me do that
[3:45] <Wings> and yes they are
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[3:48] <Wings> also, the standard boring question: is Ceph production ready yet?
[3:48] <lurbs> What do "ceph health detail", "ceph osd tree", and "ceph osd dump | grep size" show?
[3:49] <Wings> first one: http://pastebin.com/BtnzMSSX
[3:49] <iggy> there are quite a few companies using ceph in production
[3:49] <Wings> second one: http://pastebin.com/ZPd9XT6F
[3:50] <iggy> and I don't think RH would have forked over millions for inktank if they didn't think it was ready to sell
[3:50] <Wings> iggy: Fair enough :)
[3:50] <Wings> http://pastebin.com/31EB3gqB
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[3:50] <lurbs> iggy: They paid similar for Gluster. ;)
[3:51] <lurbs> Wings: Your pools have a replica size of three.
[3:51] <Wings> lurbs: interesting. huh.
[3:51] <lurbs> Setting "osd pool default size" in ceph.conf won't affect existing pools, just newly created ones.
[3:51] <Wings> I set "osd pool default size = 2" under "[default]"
[3:51] <Wings> hmm
[3:52] <lurbs> Try creating a new pool, and seeing what size that gets. But I suspect that the pools were created before that was set.
[3:52] <lurbs> That or your running config != saved config, and a daemon needs a kick.
[3:53] <iggy> still think ceph should emit a huge (hopefully useful) warning if there aren't enough OSDs to fulfill the requested replication
[3:53] <lurbs> User friendly error messages? That'll never catch on.
[3:54] <iggy> this one seems to come up quite often though
[3:54] <lurbs> Especially since Firefly changed the default, yeah.
[3:54] <iggy> should start referring all of these to someone with commit access
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[3:55] <Wings> okay... I didn't create a new pool
[3:56] <Wings> I did "ceph osd pool set data size 2" and the same for metadata and rbd
[3:56] <Wings> now it's "HEALTH_WARN 192 pgs stuck unclean"
[3:56] <iggy> and now, you probably have to wait a while or restart the OSDs to get them to notice
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[3:58] <Wings> iggy: thank you so much!
[3:58] <Wings> ceph@ceph-admin0:~/my-cluster$ ceph health HEALTH_OK
[3:58] <lurbs> Do new pools get the correct size?
[3:59] <iggy> yay! I actually knew something
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[4:00] <dmick> lolz iggy you help out a lot
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[4:02] <Wings> ceph@ceph-admin0:~/my-cluster$ ceph osd pool create testing 100 100 replicated pool 'testing' created
[4:03] <Wings> nope... new pool didn't pick up the setting
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[4:03] <Wings> HEALTH_WARN 100 pgs degraded; 100 pgs stuck unclean
[4:03] <Wings> i followed the guide to the letter...
[4:05] <lurbs> ceph tell mon.* injectargs '--osd_pool_default_size 2'
[4:05] <lurbs> Or reload/restart the monitor(s).
[4:06] <lurbs> Looks like they haven't picked up the setting.
[4:06] <Wings> according to the guide, you just edit the ceph.conf file
[4:06] <Wings> I'm guessing that's not good enough?
[4:07] <lurbs> I'm not sure at what points exactly a daemon will re-read the config file, sorry.
[4:07] <dmick> Wings: can you point me to the guid?
[4:07] * lurbs != dev.
[4:07] <dmick> daemons definitely don't reread ceph.conf until restart
[4:08] <lurbs> But pretty much anything you put in the config file can be changed live using the various 'ceph tell {osd,mon,mds}' commands.
[4:09] <dmick> yeah
[4:09] <dmick> but it's also generally not a problem to kick the daemon
[4:09] <lurbs> Just be careful to keep your running config the same as your saved config, or there'll be fun on daemon restart. :)
[4:12] <Wings> how do you "push" the config file to the daemons?
[4:12] <Wings> that's what I'm unclear on...
[4:13] <Wings> how do the other machines (ceph-mon0, ceph-osd0, ceph-osd1) pick it up from the admin machine (ceph-admin0)
[4:13] <iggy> that's what the tell is
[4:13] <iggy> tell mon.* <--- tell all mons
[4:14] <dmick> if you're using ceph-deploy, with ceph-deploy config push host [host ...]
[4:14] <dmick> but the daemons still have to restart
[4:14] <dmick> Wings: can you point me to the guide that steered you wrong?
[4:14] <lurbs> dmick: http://ceph.com/docs/master/start/quick-ceph-deploy/
[4:15] <Wings> dmick: what lurbs said.
[4:15] <dmick> if you do that between ceph deploy new and the ceph-deploy install, it will be sent to all hosts.
[4:15] <dmick> (new only sets up the first ceph.conf locally)
[4:16] <dmick> after mon create, though, you'll have to ship it with config push, and restart the daemons to get it to take effect
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[4:21] <Wings> hmm
[4:21] <Wings> [ceph_deploy.config][ERROR ] RuntimeError: config file /etc/ceph/ceph.conf exists with different content; use --overwrite-conf to overwrite
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[4:21] <Wings> is that normal?
[4:21] <Wings> (on a config push)
[4:25] <dmick> yeah
[4:25] <dmick> just trying ot make sure you know you're changing something on the remote end
[4:28] <Wings> interesting...
[4:28] <Wings> [ceph-mon0][DEBUG ] write cluster configuration to /etc/ceph/{cluster}.conf Unhandled exception in thread started by sys.excepthook is missing lost sys.stderr
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[4:28] <dmick> yeah, sometimes ceph-deploy exits badly (threads racing)
[4:28] <dmick> supposed to be fixed in the latest IIRC
[4:28] <dmick> it's cosmetic
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[4:33] <Wings> *nods*
[4:33] <Wings> thanks for all the help, dmick, lurbs and iggy :)\
[4:33] * dmick tips hat
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[4:34] <lurbs> Welcome.
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[4:48] <Jakey> hey guys when i run ceph i keep getting time out errors
[4:48] <Jakey> whats wrong???????????
[4:48] <Jakey> how can i troubleshoot this
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[7:43] <trond> Hi, we're having an issue, that when we upload a new crush map to our cluster one monitor crashes. (Even happens in an unchanged crushmap)
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[8:02] <oomkiller> Jakey look if all your monitors are running (for normal with ceth -s, but that won't work I guess) so just ssh to the machine and do an ps aux | grep ceph-mon
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[8:33] <jianingy> anyone know if there is a pause setting that can delay backfilling aftre an osd goes down?
[8:33] <oomkiller> jianingy ceph osd set noout
[8:34] <oomkiller> with that ceph doesn't consider the osd as out and therefor is not backfilling
[8:34] <oomkiller> (useful if youre taking it down for maintenance)
[8:34] <oomkiller> but this is for the whole cluster!
[8:35] <jianingy> well, i am trying to find something auto. actually, my case was taht one server went down and backfilling started then io went down. :)
[8:36] <oomkiller> yeah its exactly for that cases.
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[8:36] <oomkiller> just keep the flag on, then there will be never an automatic backfill
[8:37] <jianingy> but there will be a warn. looks terrify :)
[8:38] <oomkiller> hmm yeah don't know if you can get rid of that
[8:39] <jianingy> I'll let my nagios ignore that kind of warning. thanks anyway :)
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[9:13] <tnt_> jianingy: you can also configure an insanely long delay before the down -> out transitions.
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[9:23] <Jakey> oomkiller: it seems my ceph mon daemon is running
[9:23] <Jakey> root 21191 0.0 2.1 508684 355352 ? Sl Jul10 4:29 /usr/bin/ceph-mon -i node7 --pid-file /var/run/ceph/mon.node7.pid -c /etc/ceph/ceph.conf --cluster ceph
[9:23] <longguang> how rbd to show snap info?
[9:23] <Jakey> so whats the problem i seem to cannot run ceph command
[9:23] <Jakey> it keeps timing out
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[9:28] <longguang> iptables? auth?
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[9:28] <longguang> user perm?
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[9:29] <Jakey> longguang: i dont know
[9:30] <longguang> troubleshot
[9:31] <Jakey> don't know how to?
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[9:45] <Jakey> helloooo
[9:45] <Jakey> i need helppp
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[9:54] <tnt_> Ouch ... data corruption bug ... that doesn't sound good.
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[9:54] <Jakey> heeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[9:54] <Jakey> i neeed help
[9:55] <Jakey> when i run "ceph" command i get timeout shit
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[10:03] <Jakey> [ceph@node7 m_cluster]$ ceph
[10:03] <Jakey> 2014-07-16 22:55:50.573372 7fba890c2700 0 monclient(hunting): authenticate timed out after 300
[10:03] <Jakey> 2014-07-16 22:55:50.573414 7fba890c2700 0 librados: client.admin authentication error (110) Connection timed out
[10:03] <Jakey> Error connecting to cluster: TimedOut
[10:03] <Jakey> [ceph@node7 m_cluster]$
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[10:05] <Jakey> i'v install mon with the admin node
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[10:05] <andreask> e.g firewall or name resolving issue
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[10:18] <Jakey> andreask: okay i'm trying to reinstall everything again
[10:18] <Jakey> andreask: how can i purgedata without uninstalling ceph
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[10:34] <andreask> Jakey: testsystem with no important data? ... cleaning up /etc/ceph directory and files (not dirs) in /var/lib/ceph should be enough
[10:37] <Jakey> andreask: yep test system
[10:37] <Jakey> andreask: for everyhost?
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[10:46] <andreask> Jakey: yes for every host where you deployed something
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[10:49] <longguang> cloud you explain clone and snap?
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[12:23] <madkiss1> are there any known problems of Ubuntu 14.04 and ceph 0.80.3/0.80.4 having broken upstart jobs for the mon servers?
[12:23] <askanis> Hi guys ! I just (again) tried a manual mon bootstrapping (mon keys, admin keys, monmaptool, ceph-mon ???mkfs, the whole deal), but when starting the mon via the initscripts, it looks for /var/lib/ceph/mon/ceph-mon0/sysvinit ??? which was not there ???. Is this not documented or was i missing an important step ?
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[12:30] <askanis> after creating the file, it works btw :)
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[12:47] <pressureman> askanis, i've encountered that a bit in recent days too
[12:47] <pressureman> - mostly on older OSDs that i created with mkfs instead of "ceph-disk prepare"
[12:48] <pressureman> the "ceph-disk prepare" seems to create that file (along with "active" and "active.monmap" files, which don't seem to be overly critical either)
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[13:09] <madkiss1> haha, i'm seeing a funny ceph problem
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[13:09] <madkiss1> 2048 pgs: 268 active+degraded, 1780 active+clean; 6452 MB data, 92635 MB used, 89290 GB / 89380 GB avail; 0 B/s wr, 5829 op/s; -1218/4839 objects degraded (-25.170%)
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[13:51] <madkiss1> sage, joshd: It looks like I ran into http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/3720 on 0.80.4
[13:53] <madkiss1> And the suggested fix works like a charm
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[13:56] <madkiss1> Or, more precisely http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/4254
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[14:05] <askanis> pressureman: Thanks, I'll have a look at the osds when installing manually.
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[14:35] <tnt_> Anyone using radosgw multi part upload successfully on 0.80.4 ?
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[16:07] <longguang_home> hi
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[16:20] <longguang_home_> who could explain the theory of clone and snap?
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[16:58] <Anticimex> COW indirection layer?
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[17:03] <longguang_home> Anticimex: i read few code of clone and snap. bith are cow, no data is r/w. am i right?
[17:03] <longguang_home> they look like the same.
[17:04] <Anticimex> that's been my understanding but i think you know more than I do :)
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[17:04] <longguang_home> ok.there are very few documents about their theory.
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[17:06] <longguang_home> have you test ceph's performance, throughput?
[17:08] <askanis> For some reason, I can mount my cephfs using FUSE, but not directly using ceph.mount, always getting error 5 (I/O error)
[17:08] <askanis> any ideas ?
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[17:12] <longguang_home> enable debug. try give more infomation.
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[17:22] <askanis> OK, I put debug mds=20 and debug ms=20 into the mds portion of ceph.conf. When mounting via fuse, I see a client session pop up on the mds, but no lines when using mount.ceph
[17:23] <ifur_> is latest generation of atom fast enough for ceph?
[17:24] <longguang_home> try different monitors' address.
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[17:24] <ifur_> 8-cores at 2,4Ghz and 25GB/s mem bw up to 64GB ddr3 ecc
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[17:25] <longguang_home> i think so, ifur_.
[17:25] <longguang_home> and your disks?
[17:26] <askanis> longguang_home: I currently have only one monitor running???. hmm, I'll have a look later, it's already late here :) Thanks so far
[17:27] <longguang_home> good luck
[17:27] <ifur_> longguang_home: this node: http://www.supermicro.nl/products/system/1U/5018/SSG-5018A-AR12L.cfm
[17:28] <janos_> woah, .cfm is still used by anyone?
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[17:30] <ifur_> janos_: yeah, supermicro probably doesn't care... they only sell through re-seller anyways
[17:30] <janos_> yeah. just seems like some ancient stuff to support on a daily basis
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[17:30] <longguang_home> ceph works well on normal computer. i think the configuration is enough.
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[17:31] <ifur_> longguang_home: would it be able to take good use of a 10GbE or IB for that matter?
[17:31] <dmlb2000> ifur_: for IB I know you can use IPoIB always
[17:32] <ifur_> slightly sceptical if this provides enough processing power for some of the more compute intensive things like erasure :P
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[17:32] <ifur_> the atom cpu seems to be equivalent to the old xeon w35xx
[17:32] <dmlb2000> ifur_: but they do have srp which if ceph is just using sockets might mean better performance over IB
[17:33] <ifur_> dmlb2000: pretty sure ceph doesnt speak srp to the clients :P
[17:33] <dmlb2000> ifur_: sorry wrong acronym SDP
[17:34] <dmlb2000> Anyone familiar with radosgw and cloud setups?
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[17:35] <dmlb2000> I'm getting weird behaviour with swift client vs dashboard
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[19:03] <JoeGruher> rbd: protecting snap failed: (38) Function not implemented
[19:03] <JoeGruher> 2014-07-16 10:00:37.994510 7f219ef587c0 -1 librbd: snap_protect: image must support layering
[19:03] <JoeGruher> what would cause this? i created a snapshot of an RBD, now I'm trying to protect the snapshot so I can clone it, but I'm getting this error.
[19:07] <JoeGruher> i'm on 3.13 kernel and a new installation of Firefly (0.80.1)
[19:08] <JoeGruher> Oh, I see, it looks like the RBD is format 1... do new RBDs in Firefly not default to format 2?
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[19:49] <iggy> if it defaulted to v2, older clients wouldn't be able to connect
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[20:46] <lupu> .`
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[20:59] <Gugge-47527> iggy: older clients cant connect to optimal tuneables anyway :)
[21:02] <iggy> does that get set when upgrading a cluster?
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[21:03] <Gugge-47527> iggy: no, but it will warn you if you dont put the "shut up about it" option in the conf :)
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[21:51] <hedin> I have tried to configure a ubuntu-12.04 with qemu+libvirt according to http://ceph.com/docs/master/install/install-vm-cloud/ but the version of libvirt that gets installed is 0.9.8 and according to http://libvirt.org/formatstorage.html I need at least 0.9.13 for rbd support... before I installed qemu and libvirt, I added the firefly and ceph-extras repos... dpkg -l | egrep 'qemu|libvirt|ceph' https://dpaste.de/X3aj
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[22:02] <joshd> hedin: that's just for the libvirt storage pool support. you can have libvirt setup qemu to use rbd without libvirt storage pools
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[22:04] <joshd> hedin: if you actually do want to use libvirt storage pools, the ubuntu cloud archive has newer versions of libvirt
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[22:33] <tnt_> joao: https://hfkt.de/nera/
[22:33] <tnt_> joao: argh ... wrong paste
[22:34] <tnt_> joao: http://i.imgur.com/16G79mC.png this is the right one.
[22:34] <tnt_> joao: one of my mon decided to eat memory and OOM itself apparently ...
[22:35] <gleam> that's a lot of memory
[22:39] <tnt_> it seems it started right after the restart for the update I did for the xfs bug.
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[22:40] <tnt_> But I did the same for all 3 mons and only mon.b had issue (a peon)
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[22:42] <seapasulli> So odd.
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[22:47] <seapasulli> Anyone shed some light on how to auth locally against Ceph radosgw using swift? I have uploaded files via swift using keystone as an auth without any issues. I can't seem to change ACL/Perms on the uploaded containers/buckets/objects though. I just git a 401 authentication required returned.
[22:48] <seapasulli> I don't know why. I read that there is a bug about this #8428 which I patched
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[23:59] <qhartman> This morning performance on my ceph cluster was a bit degraded, and when I checked it out I found that a mon was down for some reason.
[23:59] <qhartman> I restarted it, and it seems to have rejoined happily, but I'm still seeing a lot of health warning messages when I do sa ceph status: http://pastebin.com/dpCiU5tq
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[23:59] <qhartman> (each of those lines is from a ceph status command, a few seconds apart)

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