#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-06-20

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[0:11] <bjornar> why does it take so long for new osds to come up??
[0:11] <bjornar> ..and what can I do with it?
[0:11] <_Tass4dar> it shouldn't, they should come up more or less immediately
[0:11] <_Tass4dar> they can start rebuilding / rebalancing though
[0:12] <_Tass4dar> and that can take some time
[0:12] <_Tass4dar> what does "ceph -w" say?
[0:12] <bjornar> I mean .. they are started some minutes ago, and they are new,.. and they eventually come up, but it takes time.
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[0:12] <bjornar> wondering if there are tunables that can make it go faster?
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[1:01] <classicsnail> seapasulli: re 20Gbps and filling it, yes, during a rebuild
[1:02] <classicsnail> have been able to do it with a rados benchmark test too, but I don't have the io loads to do that otherwise
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[8:55] <classicsnail> anyone know how quickly ceph rechecks for clocks of monitors being in sync? all my mons are in sync to the tolerance, but ceph health is still reporting them being out of sync
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[9:00] <blahnana> classicsnail, not some timezone oddity or something funny?
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[11:10] <classicsnail> not as far as I can tell
[11:10] <classicsnail> all are UTC, all maintained that way by config management
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[12:28] <tziOm> where is monmap located in filesystem?
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[13:22] <blinky_ghost> hi all, I've deploy ceph with openstack, everything works fine except when I launch a instance and run a resize2fs inside the instance to extend the filesystem it becomes very slow. I believe is somethinh related with my ceph deployment...any hint?
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[15:31] <paveraware> anyone have cache tiering working with .80.1?
[15:31] <paveraware> I believe I???ve got it setup correctly but nothing ever gets evicted/flushed from the cache pool into the erasure coded pool
[15:32] <paveraware> I???m confident I had it working with .80
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[15:32] <ghartz> paveraware, I noticed only when "target max bytes" is set, the eviction work
[15:32] <paveraware> yes, I have that set
[15:32] <ghartz> neither aged or ratio work for me
[15:32] <paveraware> and I now have a health warning
[15:33] <paveraware> because I have over target max bytes data in the cache pool
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[15:34] <paveraware> which also means I counted zeros correctly (feature/improvement request, change the units on that setting to at least MB, if not GB)
[15:36] <stj> is erasure coding considered stable? or is it still in the same category as CephFS? :)
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[15:36] <stj> just wondering if it's a good thing to include in my planning before I deploy this new cluster
[15:36] <scuttlemonkey> stj: EC was pushed out in Firefly (a major release)
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[15:37] <absynth> does that answer the question? :>
[15:37] <scuttlemonkey> so it's not a dev-only thing or anything, should be considered usable
[15:37] <scuttlemonkey> absynth: :P
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[15:37] <paveraware> I had this problem last week as well, it didn???t evict anything until we had nearly 3 times target max bytes in the cache pool, then suddenly it attempted to evict all of that data, for no real known reason and hung the cluster by using 100% cpu
[15:37] <scuttlemonkey> that said, the commercial support doesn't cover that yet (ICE launch coming soon though)
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[15:38] <scuttlemonkey> paveraware: have you posted to the lists? (I have been out of touch w/ travel lately)
[15:38] <scuttlemonkey> I know the guys would love to grab some logs and whatnot from you for a problem like that
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[15:38] <stj> scuttlemonkey: ok, thanks for the info
[15:39] <paveraware> no, we???re trying to get a reproducible scenario, but each time we set it up it seems to behave differently
[15:39] <scuttlemonkey> stj: np
[15:39] <paveraware> would you recommend dev or users mailing list for a post like this?
[15:39] <scuttlemonkey> paveraware: hrm, would definitely love to see a summary of what's been happening. I have definitely heard of problems...but they are usually very predictable
[15:40] <scuttlemonkey> paveraware: administrativia is usually more -user
[15:40] <scuttlemonkey> so that's where I'd suggest starting
[15:40] <paveraware> ok, we???ll write up our experiences and post to the mailing list today
[15:40] <paveraware> as best we can
[15:41] <scuttlemonkey> paveraware: awesome, thanks muchly
[15:41] <paveraware> it might be difficult to retrieve exact data as the clusters that have run into real issues have been wiped and redeployed
[15:42] <scuttlemonkey> yeah, that's fine
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[15:42] <paveraware> ok
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[18:11] <brad_mssw> when 'ceph status' shows all pgs as active+clean, that is when you know a heal is done, right?
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[18:12] <brad_mssw> 'heal' may not be the proper term here, I'm coming from gluster
[18:14] <janos_> brad_mssw, HEALTH_OK is probably easier to see at a glance
[18:14] <brad_mssw> just wondering because when testing bringing a node down and back up when I have a VM doing writes, it only takes a few seconds to recover .... whereas with gluster, it would take many minutes ... just seems like a huge difference
[18:15] <brad_mssw> janos_: well, I need to use a local NTP server as my health always shows a warn due to 0.09s clock skew between nodes
[18:15] <Sysadmin88> it depends how much data is on the failed node
[18:15] <janos_> brad_mssw, i would peer the Mons
[18:15] <janos_> so if you lose external access to clock, you're always good
[18:15] <brad_mssw> k, might give that shot then
[18:15] <brad_mssw> a shot ...
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[18:16] <janos_> should just be lines like "peer mon1" in the ntp.conf
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[18:17] <janos_> assuming "mon1" is known via hosts file or dns, etc
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[18:30] <brad_mssw> janos_: that seems to have resolved it, they're in sync enough now for ceph to not complain, thanks.
[18:30] <janos_> any time
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[18:54] <ponyofdeath> hi, i have set up a cache tier pool and I am unable to figure out how to properly set up the drain to the backend pool. i have this http://bpaste.net/show/HHIWD5wqm0ESjBv3h4PE/
[18:55] <ponyofdeath> I set up per the cache pool doc
[18:55] <ponyofdeath> ceph osd pool set foo-hot cache_target_dirty_ratio .4
[18:55] <ponyofdeath> ceph osd pool set foo-hot cache_target_full_ratio .8
[18:55] <ponyofdeath> ceph osd pool set foo-hot target_max_bytes 0
[18:55] <ponyofdeath> ceph osd pool set foo-hot target_max_objets 0
[18:56] <ponyofdeath> ceph osd pool set foo-hot cache_min_flush_age 600
[18:56] <ponyofdeath> ceph osd pool set foo-hot cache_min_evict_age 1800
[18:56] <ponyofdeath> what am I missing to get the pool to drain properly at 40% full
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[19:09] <davidzlap> DavidThunder: test
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[20:52] <sh3rl0ck> Hello I am a new to CEPH. I am trying to setup a CEPH cluster and currently following the install guide. I am not sure if I understand the role of admin node.
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[20:54] <stj> i interpret the admin node as the computer/server which has the client.admin keyring
[20:55] <stj> essentially the place that you run the ceph management CLI tools from
[20:55] <sh3rl0ck> Oh ok.. Thanks
[20:55] <sh3rl0ck> So than what is the difference between monitor node and admin node?
[20:56] <stj> the monitor runs the ceph-mon processes
[20:56] <stj> the admin node doesn't necessarily run any ceph cluster processes
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[20:57] <sh3rl0ck> Oh I see...makes sense. Do you think I can use the hard disks attached to monitor node in the cluster?
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[20:57] <stj> from what I've heard, it's OK to host OSDs on your monitor nodes for smaller clusters
[20:57] <sh3rl0ck> or is it that only OSD nodes can be used for storage?
[20:58] <stj> but for larger clusters, you start wanting to have dedicated monitors
[20:58] <stj> i don't have enough experience to know where the trade-off point is when dedicated monitors are better :)
[20:59] <sh3rl0ck> I have 3 rack mount servers each with 11TB...So I was not sure whether I can directly install ubuntu as bare-metal and setup them as OSD or should I set one of them as MON and 2 of them as OSD
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[21:00] <stj> i think for a cluster that small you should be fine putting OSDs on the monitor node as well
[21:00] <sh3rl0ck> Oh ok. Thanks.
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[21:14] <cephtron> hello everyone
[21:15] <cephtron> i want to know how can i enable osd_snap_trim_sleep
[21:15] <cephtron> can i simply put this parameter to all ceph nodes and then restart ceph
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[21:18] <cephtron> anyone ?
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[21:39] <mtl2> cephtron: ceph tell osd.* injectargs '???osd-snap-trim-sleep .05'
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[21:40] <mtl2> And, add this to the [osd] section of ceph.conf: osd_snap_trim_sleep = .05
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[23:45] <nagyz> hey
[23:46] <nagyz> so I have a 0.72 cluster that I think I'm ready to upgrade to 0.80.1 ;-)
[23:46] <nagyz> can I upgrade the monitors one by one? the docs sais that I need to do the same type of daemons at once which would actually mean stopping all of them,upgrading and then starting
[23:46] <nagyz> but I guess I can go one by one, otherwise there'd be an outage
[23:47] <janos_> nagyz, previouys live upgrades i've done, you go one by one
[23:47] <janos_> *previous
[23:47] <janos_> mons, then osds
[23:48] <nagyz> how afraid should I be of a 0.72.2->0.80.1 upgrade?
[23:48] <janos_> i am still on 072.2 ;)
[23:48] <janos_> i have not done that one yet
[23:48] <nagyz> our guys want the object store, and I'd like to use cephfs a bit, so I figured it would be the time to upgrade
[23:48] <janos_> i have a OSD host i need to update the OS version on first
[23:48] <nagyz> do you think cephfs would be okay if I just need it to store a couple hundred small files? (libvirt.xmls...)
[23:49] <janos_> i've upgraded since pre-bobtail
[23:49] <janos_> and the only problem i had was one of my own making
[23:49] <nagyz> I'm still running precise on my ceph nodes, with the 3.11 kernel
[23:49] <janos_> and it was completely recoverable too
[23:49] <nagyz> AFAIK anything after 3.9 works, right?
[23:50] <nagyz> for clients
[23:50] <janos_> hrmmmm. there might be issues with that kernel version. but i say that out of caution, not knowledge
[23:50] <janos_> you may want to linger for someone with more explicit knowledge
[23:50] <nagyz> it's the latest available for precise, I'm afraid
[23:51] <janos_> i'm not ruling it out, i'm jsut suggesting you get a better source of info than me before pulling the trigger ;)
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[23:59] <nwrk> for krbd, I'd say 3.11+ because of http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/5760
[23:59] <nwrk> (if you use format 2 rbd images)

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