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IRC Log for 2014-06-15

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[0:24] <newbie> New to ceph, trying a POC for work with have cephfs fuse mounted to CentOS 6.5 box for a backend for owncloud running under apache. Access the fuse-mounted directory directly, performance is decent. Through apache it is terrible. Is there any way to tune this mount to get better performance?
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[0:28] <iggy> I'd think it's just fuse being fuse, but that's just me
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[2:26] <MACscr> iggy: any idea if cephfs is viable yet for production use?
[2:28] <MACscr> nvm, guess its still not considered production yet
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[3:35] <iggy> MACscr: as you apparently noticed, it's still non-production... that said, people have been using it (and the other parts rbd/rados/etc are considered production ready)
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[13:27] <_Tass4dar> loicd: thank you very much for your assistence with fixing the erasure coded pool on the mailing list ;)
[13:28] <_Tass4dar> I just finished sending you the relevant information
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[14:06] <loicd> _Tass4dar: hi
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[14:09] <loicd> _Tass4dar: could you please tell me which ceph packages were installed ? It looks like a packaging bug (the lack of erasure code plugin).
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[14:15] <loicd> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/master/ceph.spec.in#L455 looks right (and that was added in march 2014). So I'm not sure why you don't have /usr/lib64/ceph/erasure-code/libec_jerasure_sse3.so
[14:15] <mastamind> hi. it is possible to configure more than one network to be used as either public or cluster network. this way if one network failes another one is used. is that correct?
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[14:16] <loicd> mastamind: the public network and the cluster network have different use. They are not a failover solution. http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/configuration/network-config-ref/
[14:16] <Sysadmin88> you could do that with your host
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[14:17] <mastamind> i know. i meant, that we will use two different networks for each purpose.
[14:17] <mastamind> so we end up with four networks. two pubilc, two cluster.
[14:18] <mastamind> may next question is: we would like to have one 10g network as the primary network and another one 1g network with independent and older switches as a backup network. is there a way to tell ceph to always use the preferred 10g network as long as it is available and to only use the second network if the first one is not available? and to even switch back to the first one as soon as it is available again?
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[14:23] <loicd> mastamind: I don't think it is possible. It looks like something you don't want Ceph to be aware of.
[14:24] <mastamind> loicd: the documentation says, that it is possible to use more than one subnet for e.g. the public network.
[14:26] <mastamind> if you have two subnets in the public network, an osd should be reachable over either of those subnets. as long as i have understood the documentation. so if one subnet fails because the switches fail, the osd is still available on the second subnet.
[14:29] <Sysadmin88> there are failover solutions for switches
[14:29] <Sysadmin88> if theyrte different subnets you would need routing and that could bottleneck your cluster
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[14:29] <mastamind> we plan to use our cisco nexus vpc setup with lacp to private a fast 10g subnet for the public network (and additionally one vlan for the cluster network). we also have old 1g switches. those switches should be used with another completly independent subnet. all clients and all ceph nodes will be connected to both switches and will have access to both subnets for public access. this way the nexus switches may fail but the clients and ceph nodes will still have
[14:30] <mastamind> why should i need routing? all ceph nodes and all clients are in all subnets. routing will not be required.
[14:31] <loicd> mastamind: the mon / osd will bind itself on first IP it finds in the list of subnets https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/master/src/common/pick_address.cc#L43 . It will not bind multiple IPs. If that's what you want you can have it bind * instead.
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[14:34] <mastamind> loicd: i could explicitly specify 0.0.0.0.
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[14:47] <mastamind> what is the purpose of having more than one public network?
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[14:54] <loicd> mastamind: I don't know which use case it addresses. I can imagine a few but I don't know for sure what was the original motivation.
[14:56] <mastamind> loicd: ok. if ceph isn't able to use multiple subnets for redundancy we will have to think about using ceph at all.
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[15:20] <mastamind> loicd: if you use more than one public network, osd only binds to the first one. so there is no redundancy.
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[15:42] <mastamind> so, no ceph for us. :-( that is really sad.
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[15:44] <chelsea> try thys one WWW.SoccerTips4Sure.com
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[22:54] <_Tass4dar> loicd: ah, I figured out how to repair the empty default profile, simply by using --force
[22:54] <_Tass4dar> works a charm
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[23:01] <loicd> _Tass4dar: that's a good workaround indeed
[23:01] <_Tass4dar> now let's hope that fedora fix their packaging quickly :)
[23:02] <_Tass4dar> great work on the whole erasure code by the way
[23:02] <_Tass4dar> i read that you are the main contributor, and before this work was done, i really felt that ceph missed it
[23:02] <_Tass4dar> so thanks for that!
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