#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-04-11

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[1:34] <cynosure> can we restrict the number of volumes created by a user on CEPH. I mean is there a QUOTA for the number volumes created per user ?
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[2:18] <ponyofdeath> hi, guys I am having issues trying to do ceph pg X.X query on unfound / down+peering pg's any ideas?
[2:19] <ponyofdeath> the command just hangs
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[2:41] <ponyofdeath> untill this Error EROFS: not primary
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[6:43] <grepory> Hi.. :/ I have a full OSD for some reason (cluster is at 50% utilization), and suddenly all of my RBD volumes have stopped responding
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[6:45] <grepory> I stopped the full OSD, but that did nothing.
[6:45] <grepory> I am not even sure how to approach this.
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[8:27] <buck> yes,isee
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[9:43] <mikn_> Is it worth putting together an all-SSD Ceph cluster as an alternative to something like Solidfire cluster?
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[10:02] <fghaas> mikn_: once you hit several petabytes, that might get a tad expensive
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[10:11] <ms77> hi. If I want to restart my cephfs from scratch (uses default pools), is emptying data and metadata pools the way to go? Or will that affect any (meta)data needed by RBDs in another pool?
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[10:12] <ms77> i.e. are the data and metadata pools exclusively used by the mds or is there danger ahead?
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[10:49] <madkiss> am I correct to assume that if I run ceph-deploy with sudo as user 1 on host A, it will connect to host B as the original user, not as root?
[10:54] <fghaas> nope
[10:54] <kraken> http://i.imgur.com/xKYs9.gif
[10:54] <fghaas> "ceph-deploy at a minimum requires that the machine from which the script is being run can ssh as root without password into each Ceph node."
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[10:55] <fghaas> oh wow, in the vicinity of that I think the readme says something rather braindead
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[11:47] <Infitialis> good morning, I'm trying to set up a virtual machine with kvm but at startup I get this error. I've set it up like https://ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/libvirt/ . the error is:
[11:48] <Infitialis> error: internal error process exited while connecting to monitor: char device redirected to /dev/pts/11
[11:48] <Infitialis> kvm: -drive file=rbd:libvirt-pool/centos:id=libvirt:key=:auth_supported=cephx\;none,if=none,id=drive-ide0-0-1,format=raw: could not open disk image rbd:libvirt-pool/centos:id=libvirt:key=auth_supported=cephx\;none: No such file or directory
[11:48] <Infitialis> removed the keys before copying
[11:48] <Infitialis> sorry for the spam
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[11:53] <Infitialis> what did I forget to install? :S
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[11:54] <Fruit> Infitialis: your error does not seem to be related to ceph
[11:54] <fghaas> Infitialis: why on earth are you doing this manually, instead of setting up the machine with libvirt?
[11:55] <fghaas> or did you just c&p the kvm command line that libvirt created for you?
[11:57] <Infitialis> fghaas: All I did was edit the xml file of the virtual machine like the guide on the ceph website said and used virsh start vm
[11:57] <Infitialis> then I got that error
[11:59] <fghaas> well are you running qemu that supports rbd?
[11:59] <fghaas> qemu/kvm that is
[11:59] <fghaas> and are you running a libvirtd that actually understands your syntax?
[12:00] <Infitialis> hmm let me see if it does support rbd, might not :X
[12:00] <ms77> yep looks a bit like qemu w/o rbd
[12:00] <ms77> i'd guess libvirt is fine, otherwise it wouldn't get to starting qemu
[12:01] <fghaas> assuming you're on centos 6, you'll need packages from http://www.ceph.com/packages/ceph-extras/rpm/rhel6/
[12:02] <Infitialis> a bit embarrassing :X no I'm using kvm on ubuntu
[12:02] <fghaas> which ubuntu? 12.04?
[12:02] <Infitialis> yes
[12:03] <fghaas> then you'll need libvirt and qemu from ubuntu cloud archive
[12:03] <fghaas> what ships in stock precise doesn't have any rbd support
[12:04] <Infitialis> fghaas: can't I just install dependencies instead of reinstalling libvirt and qemu?
[12:05] <fghaas> what does your "qemu-img -f ?" say under "supported formats"? does it list rbd? if no, your qemu doesn't know rbd
[12:06] <fghaas> and no, just installing dependencies won't cut it as your qemu simply doesn't link to librbd
[12:06] <Infitialis> okay I will do that then, thx :)
[12:07] <ms77> i read it's bad to mount cephfs (kernel client) on an osd host with old kernel, ext4 and such. is there anything generally wrong with mounting on an osd with btrfs and full syncfs support? I'm running into issues that complete subtrees disappear on some but not all clients. mount -o remount fixes that for a short while
[12:07] <ms77> 0.72.2 on gentoo with 3.12.13 kernel
[12:08] <fghaas> ms77. do. not. mount. cephfs. on. your. osd. host. simple as that, been discussed here a bajillion times
[12:08] <ms77> gotcha
[12:08] <fghaas> deadlock waiting to happen.
[12:10] <ms77> :( tried to replace gfs2 on rbd with cephfs for a shared fs within the cluster including the osds. gfs2 was a lot slower and dlm kinda unstable
[12:11] <Infitialis> fghaas: I was mistaking, I am using debian. but I guess the same with ubuntu applies with debian
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[12:11] <classicsnail> fghaas: out of interest, where's the deadlock present?
[12:12] <classicsnail> my google-fu is failing me finding a discussion it
[12:13] <ms77> so is there any sane option for a shared read-mostly filesystem that can be mounted on the very osds the fs is somehow stored on?
[12:14] <classicsnail> ah, found it, tracker.ceph.com/issues/3076
[12:17] <jerker> ms77: NFS :-)
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[12:19] <Infitialis> Can I just stop the Ceph Cluster without a faillure?
[12:20] <ms77> jerker: umm...yeah but doesn't fit in too well with also exporting some subtrees via nfs... well guess i'll need to split the tasks some more. gotta check how to map that onto the hardware at hand
[12:20] <fghaas> jerker, nope
[12:20] <fghaas> not if you're using the kernel NFS server
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[12:36] <ms77> classicsnail: thanks for that! found some info on the topic, but not that one. so gfs2 on rbd was actually failing for the same reasons. sigh.
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[12:51] <Infitialis> fghaas: it seems that debian wheezy does not have rbd support, got any advice on which ubuntu/debian version I should take?
[12:51] <Fruit> Infitialis: I have a version for wheezy if you like
[12:52] <Infitialis> Fruit: hmm?
[12:52] <Fruit> https://non-gnu.uvt.nl/debian/wheezy/qemu/
[12:53] <Infitialis> so I have to install all of those packages?
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[12:56] <Fruit> no, you add the apt repo and install using apt-get
[12:56] <Fruit> see https://non-gnu.uvt.nl
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[13:38] <syanchev> Hello
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[13:40] <syanchev> I have a question about upgrading from dumpling to emperor and bug 6761
[13:43] <syanchev> Is there a chance of hitting it when upgrading to the last emperor release 0.72.2 from latest dumpling release 0.67.7 ?
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[13:56] <madkiss> so i am having an interesting problem with ceph-deploy on RHEL 6.5. when called to create an OSD, it creates a partition on the target disk, it even creates a filesystem on the partition it has just created
[13:56] <madkiss> but it doesn't mount it, and /var/lib/ceph/osd remains empty
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[14:02] <madkiss> http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2014-January/007597.html
[14:06] <madkiss> looks like i'm hit by http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/7245
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[14:09] <madkiss> alright
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[14:09] <madkiss> my ceph-0.72.0 packages definitely don't have the "95-ceph-osd-alt.rules" file, but the standard one
[14:10] <madkiss> sage: any chance we can get https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/1149 backported to emperor for the next point release? :)
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[14:38] <alfredodeza> issue 6761
[14:38] <alfredodeza> hrmn
[14:38] <alfredodeza> awww kraken is sleeping
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[14:40] <alfredodeza> issue 6761
[14:40] <kraken> alfredodeza might be talking about http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/6761 [emperor's "dirty" flag is being interpreted as "lost" by Dumpling OSDs]
[14:40] <alfredodeza> thanks kraken
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[14:47] <syanchev> yeah i was talking about the same bug
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[14:51] <syanchev> If i upgrade the OSDs before the MONs to emperor will i hit it ?
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[15:51] <Infitialis> after shutting down all my osd's/mon's and my mds my cluster seems to be degraded, it doesnt seem to fix it though
[15:51] <Infitialis> HEALTH_WARN 216 pgs stale; 216 pgs stuck stale; mds cluster is degraded
[15:53] <Infitialis> as I'm pretty new to ceph I'm trying to debug it while reading the documentation, could someone please help me with this
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[16:02] <sage> madkiss: looks like it's already in the emperor branch. i wasn't planning on doing an emperor point release for a while, though, since we've been focusing our testing on firefly and dumpling.
[16:02] <madkiss> ah.
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[16:05] <fghaas> alfredodeza: jfyi, ceph-deploy doc issue 8069
[16:05] <kraken> fghaas might be talking about http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/8069 [ceph-deploy README suggests questionable SSH parameters]
[16:06] * alfredodeza looks
[16:06] * alfredodeza agrees
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[16:06] <alfredodeza> !norris fghaas
[16:06] <kraken> fghaas counted to infinity. Twice.
[16:07] <fghaas> you don't need to set PermitEmptyPasswords to allow pubkey auth with an empty passphrase
[16:07] <alfredodeza> that is correct
[16:07] <fghaas> btw: another suggestion would be to make ceph-deploy always use ssh -A
[16:07] <alfredodeza> what is -A?
[16:07] <fghaas> agent forwarding
[16:08] <fghaas> thus, if your own ssh pubkey is in /root/ssh/.authorized_keys, and your ssh agent has your key, then you'll be able to make passphrase-less ssh connections even though your key has a passphrase
[16:08] <fghaas> which is juuuust a wee bit more secure
[16:09] <alfredodeza> that complicates things as we rely on an abstraction to connect to SSH handled by a library
[16:09] <alfredodeza> we *could* in theory add that flag
[16:09] <fghaas> you could, arguably, even run ssh-copy-id during the first connection to a new node
[16:09] <alfredodeza> but if the gains are not that many then I prefer not to
[16:09] <alfredodeza> fghaas: we do that already
[16:10] <fghaas> yeah but with a passphrase-less ssh key
[16:10] <alfredodeza> not really
[16:10] <alfredodeza> we just re-use the key if found
[16:11] <fghaas> ok
[16:11] <fghaas> humm it seems paramiko indeed does not support agent forwarding
[16:11] <med> sjm, to use ceph rbd with OpenStack, does glance need to have the images stored in rbd as well or can glance have a swift backend?
[16:11] <alfredodeza> fghaas: we do not use paramiko
[16:11] <med> or even a ragos backend?
[16:11] <med> joshd ^
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[16:12] <alfredodeza> s/we do/ceph-deploy does/
[16:12] <kraken> alfredodeza meant to say: fghaas: ceph-deploy does not use paramiko
[16:12] <fghaas> glance can have a swift backend, but you're losing the ability to do fancy things in the backend between cinder and swift
[16:12] <fghaas> med ^
[16:12] <med> fghaas, I think that's what we're seeing
[16:13] <med> we have a swift backend in our POC and now it looks like we need glance to have a ceph backend as well.
[16:13] <med> fghaas, much appreciated
[16:13] <fghaas> med: why would you want to separate those though? I mean why exactly would you not want to go all-ceph for both?
[16:14] <med> fghaas, has to do more with "history" than planning/desire.
[16:14] <med> :^)
[16:14] <fghaas> alfredodeza: sorry, must have mixed something up then... should have checked first, apologies for the noise
[16:14] <alfredodeza> fghaas: no problem
[16:14] <med> though this is a POC we can rip it down and redo it
[16:14] <alfredodeza> I agree with your ticket though
[16:15] <fghaas> med: makes sense. :) the one thing that swift does gain you, still, is that you can replicate your images over multiple sites relatively painlessly with global clusters
[16:15] <fghaas> but if you don't need that, go all-rbd for cinder and glance
[16:15] <med> yep and that's the tradeoff (and we do have a globabl swift)
[16:15] <fghaas> ok.
[16:15] <med> so we'll get this sorted. thanks for the reply
[16:16] <med> fghaas, shouldn't there be three As in your surname? Florian HA-as-a-service
[16:17] <fghaas> med: the joke of one's surname ending in -aas and working in cloud tech gets old pretty quickly :)
[16:17] <fghaas> so, just to summarize: cinder/rbd is fine with both glance/swift and glance/rbd. it's just that you can do fancier things in the backend when both are rbd backed.
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[16:18] <med> nod, ack, thanks (and sorry to join the lame lame lame joke bandwagon.)
[16:19] <fghaas> no worries, I can handle that, as long as you keep taking your meds
[16:19] <fghaas> :P
[16:19] <med> +100
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[17:28] <Infitialis> can someone help me? 3 out of 4 osd are offline, when I try to do service ceph restart on a osd nothing happens. the ceph osd logging doesnt anything either
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[17:42] <ponyofdeath> hi, can anyone help me with a cluster stuck in this state ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7235437
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[17:45] <ponyofdeath> /window new split
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[18:54] <grepory> I am having some issues setting osd max backfills with injectargs... i tried ceph tell osd.0 injectargs '--max-backfills 5', but it says failed to parse arguments: --max-backfills,5
[18:54] <grepory> is --max-backfills not how i should be setting it? can it not be set at runtime?
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[18:57] <janos> grepory, sounds like it could just be a format thing. i haven't tried to injectargs before, but is it possibly --max-backfills=5 ?
[18:57] <grepory> ceph_deploy@ceph-1001:~$ sudo ceph tell osd.0 injectargs '--max-backfills=5'
[18:58] <grepory> whoops wrong line
[18:58] <grepory> failed to parse arguments: --max-backfills=5
[18:58] <grepory> same thing
[18:58] <janos> dang
[19:00] <grepory> aha
[19:00] <grepory> sudo ceph tell osd.0 injectargs '--osd-max-backfills 5'
[19:00] <grepory> that works
[19:00] <janos> cool
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[19:38] <dwm> Has anyone had any success in using zram on OSD hosts to reduce memory consumption?
[19:39] <dwm> (Or, more accurately, reducing hardware RAM requirements?)
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[20:07] <jetole> Does anyone know, if I install emperor, will I be able to upgrade to firefly later?
[20:07] <dwm> jetole: That's explicitly supported.
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[20:08] <jetole> great! I'm getting ready to deploy a new cluster and I see firefly in the RC. Don't want to wait for stable and don't want to be locked in to a old version so, awesome!
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[21:12] <ponyofdeath> anyone know how i can find the reason a cluster is blocking requests?
[21:12] <ponyofdeath> HEALTH_WARN 1055 pgs backfill; 34 pgs backfilling; 167 pgs down; 167 pgs peering; 12 pgs recovery_wait; 167 pgs stuck inactive; 1269 pgs stuck unclean; 79 requests are blocked > 32 sec; recovery 258865/2199408 objects degraded (11.770%); mds cluster is degraded
[21:12] <ponyofdeath> with that health report
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[22:02] <robbat2> RBD auth question: is it possible to create a user with credentials to only a single RBD image in a shared pool?
[22:03] <robbat2> authtool does contain docs on access to a single pool, but not to a single image
[22:04] <dmick> https://wiki.ceph.com/Planning/Sideboard/rbd%3A_namespace_support would likely be how. I don't know how far off it is
[22:06] <robbat2> thanks, then I guess not for the moment
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[22:11] <dmick> robbat2: looks that way. you can manipulate namespaces on objects with the rados tool/librados, but not the rbd tool yet, it looks like
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[22:11] <dmick> ....although I don't see the caps extension yet either, so maybe it's not very done yet
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