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IRC Log for 2014-04-10

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[2:24] <athrift> Hi, is there any plan to add aio support to stgt in ceph-extras ?
[2:25] <athrift> e.g. so writes are journalled by ceph
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[2:36] <dmick> athrift: it's been discussed, but it seemed less important because stgt already manages a threadpool of its own
[2:36] <dmick> it might still be helpful, but at least requests aren't single-threaded
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[3:07] <athrift> dmick: Thanks for the answer.
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[3:15] <dmick> athrift: if you think it may have a big benefit, by all means try it; it should be relatively straightforward to do the same sort of conversion to bs_aio.c as I did for bs_rdwr.c; the librbd aio functions are pretty similar to the libc ones
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[4:04] <athrift> dmick: It will be of benefit to us as our initiators are doing 90% writes and as these are bypassing the journal and going direct to the spinners it is slowing our cluster down
[4:04] <athrift> dmick: Thanks we will have a look at how hard this is
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[4:42] <dmick> athrift: well, if it's the cluster being slow, not the tgtd, aio doesn't seem like it would help; there's only so fast you can write to the cluster
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[4:42] <dmick> if the cluster's workqueues aren't full, that's another thing
[4:43] <dmick> but aio doesn't buy speed, just concurrent outstanding requests
[4:43] <athrift> dmick: Thanks, we just ordered another 36 OSD's accross 3 hosts so hopefully that solves the problem
[4:44] <athrift> dmick: How do we check the workqueues ?
[4:44] <dmick> I think there are stats of queued ops...
[4:45] <athrift> Ok thanks
[4:45] <dmick> checking
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[4:50] <dmick> you can get some idea with "ceph daemon osd.<n> dump_ops_in_flight" (which you do on the host containing the osd)
[4:51] <dmick> there are also op and subop latency numbers, which are not directly what you want, but if they're high you're probably saturating the cluster, I'd guess
[4:51] <athrift> dmick: Thanks Dan, extremely helpful
[4:51] <dmick> (from ceph daemon osd.<n> perf dump)
[4:52] <dmick> I *think* in that dump, filestore.op_queue_ops is the actual queue depth
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[5:08] <dmick> no, that must not be right, it's not decremented
[5:09] <dmick> osd.opq is that number
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[5:13] <dmick> sigh. not sure. op_queue_ops is also set to a queue length, so it's a candidate
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[9:50] <loicd> leseb: would you like us to work together and setup brag.ceph.com ?
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[10:13] <hybrid512> Hi everyone
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[10:39] <hybrid512> I have a few updates to do on my cluster nodes that need a reboot (kernel update), what is the correct procedure for making the node leave the cluster and get back smoothly without triggering a massive recover operation ?
[10:41] <fghaas> /sbin/reboot :)
[10:42] <fghaas> your OSDs will be down for the duration of the reboot, but unless your reboot exceeds the mod osd down out interval (default 300s), there will be no reshuffling
[10:42] <fghaas> s/mod/mon/
[10:42] <kraken> fghaas meant to say: your OSDs will be down for the duration of the reboot, but unless your reboot exceeds the mon osd down out interval (default 300s), there will be no reshuffling
[10:43] <Vacum_> hybrid512: you can set the whole cluster to "noout" if you like. or only the affected osds
[10:46] <hybrid512> fghaas: kraken : great ! good to know, that is exactly what I hoped :)
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[10:46] <fghaas> hybrid512: kraken is a bot, not a human contributing to the discussion, jfyi :)
[10:47] <hybrid512> Vacum_: thanks for the tip ... the idea really is in the case of a system reboot in a normal maintenance scenario so the node would be down only the time for the reboot
[10:47] <hybrid512> so ... juste reboot ... great :)
[10:48] <hybrid512> anyway, if I understand well, I should just set a "noout" status on the OSD I want to stop if that operation should last a bit longer, right ?
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[13:47] <imriz> did anyone else here had an issue with "radosgw-admin bucket list" taking a long time to return?
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[13:55] <mo-> loicd: is it still possible to add to the list of use cases for cephfs (Re: committee monthly meeting)
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[14:04] <loicd> mo-: sure you can add that to the agenda for the next meeting https://wiki.ceph.com/Community/Meetings . The meeting minutes are not meant to be expanded though. Maybe there should be a page about CephFS use cases.
[14:05] <mo-> yea was my roundabout way of asking if that mentioned wiki page ever got created, he
[14:06] <mo-> anyway. Im not sure, why that hasnt come up, but cephfs would make for the perfect storage option for openvz containers
[14:07] <loicd> mo-: yes !
[14:09] <mo-> I mean the snapshots alone would be glorious, but on top of that youd also have HA. that last bit might need a fencing agent though, not sure
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[15:04] <ksingh> # rbd map disk1 --pool rbd
[15:04] <ksingh> rbd: add failed: (5) Input/output error
[15:04] <ksingh> any quick suggestions
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[15:08] <classicsnail> isn't that a "can't connect" type of error?
[15:08] <classicsnail> firewall or something similar?
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[15:10] <ksingh> no connectivity is fine
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[15:20] <Infitialis> hello, I'm trying to setup ceph. I've used the ceph deploy way got to the part of activating OSD's
[15:21] <Infitialis> at that part I got quite a few warnings so decided to interrupt it
[15:21] <Infitialis> now I'm trying to activate it again but it doesnt seem to go further then running command sudo ceph disk activate
[15:21] <Infitialis> can someone please help me?
[15:22] <alfredodeza> Infitialis: it would help to know about 'a few warnings' and what those were :)
[15:22] <Infitialis> alfredodeze: heheh oops
[15:23] <Infitialis> I hope it's not too much text but its just 1 line
[15:23] <Infitialis> [WARNIN] 2014-04-10 15:17:22.008960 7f4fac428700 0 -- :/1001646 >> 192.168.1.190:6789/0 pipe(0x7f4f9c00f090 sd=5 :0 s=1 pgs=0 cs=0 l=1 c=0x7f4f9c00f2f0).fault
[15:23] <alfredodeza> Infitialis: so ceph-deploy interprets stderr as WARNING
[15:23] <alfredodeza> and that looks ok to me
[15:23] <alfredodeza> the output I mean
[15:24] <Fruit> looks like one of your mons is unreachable?
[15:24] <Infitialis> Fruit: hmm they seem to be all fine though
[15:25] <Fruit> 192.168.1.190 in particular
[15:25] <Infitialis> let me see
[15:26] <Infitialis> Fruit: no thats one of my OSD's which I'm trying to activate
[15:26] <Fruit> 6789 is a mon port
[15:27] <Fruit> perhaps a typo somewhere?
[15:28] <Infitialis> Fruit: could be I guess but where can I look? sorry a bit new to it
[15:28] <Fruit> ceph.conf :)
[15:31] <Infitialis> Fruit: ah right ye its setup as mon_host even though it shouldnt be a host
[15:31] <Infitialis> I mean mon
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[15:33] <Infitialis> Fruit: shouldnt the osd's be in ceph.conf as welll? I mean they are part of the cluster arent they
[15:34] <Fruit> I put them in ceph.conf but it might be that the mons keep track of them too. I don't know.
[15:36] <Infitialis> Fruit: so mon_hosts are the monitors only or are they the OSDs as well?
[15:36] <Infitialis> I mean specifically in the ceph.conf
[15:36] <Fruit> monitors only, duh :P
[15:36] <Infitialis> well ye seems obvious but you never know :P
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[15:42] <Infitialis> Fruit: I'm trying to purge data from an osd but it says that still has data on it.
[15:42] <Infitialis> I mean ceph installed on it
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[15:45] <Infitialis> isnt ceph-deploy purgedata supposed to remove ceph
[15:45] <Fruit> no clue, I avoid ceph-deploy
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[15:51] <alfredodeza> Infitialis: no
[15:51] <alfredodeza> you want purge
[15:52] <alfredodeza> purgedata removes all the files and data left behind
[15:52] <alfredodeza> purge just removes packages
[15:52] <alfredodeza> Fruit: :( why?
[15:52] <Infitialis> alfredodeza: but even after using apt-get remove and apt-get purge ceph on OSDs/Monitors gives me the messages ceph is still installed
[15:53] <alfredodeza> Infitialis: I meant with ceph-deploy
[15:53] <alfredodeza> so from your admin server
[15:53] <alfredodeza> ceph-deploy purge {nodes}
[15:53] <Infitialis> ye I did that
[15:53] <alfredodeza> there is more to it than just removing stuff :)
[15:53] <alfredodeza> ah ok
[15:53] <alfredodeza> and those are still up and running?
[15:53] <alfredodeza> so weird
[15:54] <Fruit> alfredodeza: because a) it puts the journal on the same disk and b) it does stuff that I prefer to do using other mechanisms
[15:54] <Infitialis> well it wasnt actually running because I wasnt finished with the setup but still
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[15:57] <alfredodeza> Infitialis: if you don't care about the data do a ceph-deploy purgedata
[15:59] <Infitialis> alfredodeza: I did that but with all but just one I got RuntimeError: refusing to purge data while ceph is still installed
[15:59] <alfredodeza> ok so that would happen if removal of ceph failed
[15:59] <alfredodeza> you will need to get into that server and diagnose why is it that you cannot remove ceph there
[16:00] <Infitialis> I just did apt-get remove ceph and apt-get purge ceph
[16:00] <Infitialis> and removed the folders that purgedata would remove
[16:00] <Infitialis> isnt that enough?
[16:00] <alfredodeza> I think that is not enough
[16:01] <alfredodeza> there is a bunch of other stuff
[16:01] <alfredodeza> and ceph-deploy will complain about ceph being installed if the directories are still there
[16:01] <alfredodeza> so you did miss something there :)
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[16:14] <Infitialis> alfredodeza: decided to do it some other way, but to make a cluster the guide says only to do ceph-deploy new (monitoring nodes) but dont you have to add the OSDs to that as well?
[16:15] <alfredodeza> I wouldn't recommend deviating from the guide Infitialis
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[16:16] <Infitialis> alfredodeza: so the guide is correct? I only need to do ceph-deploy new on monitoring nodes and then later ceph-deploy osd prepare and activate?
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[16:17] <alfredodeza> it has been a while since I've last followed through the guide
[16:17] <alfredodeza> I would just do it a bunch of times until you know how it goes
[16:17] <alfredodeza> and then graduate and play with different ways to get there :)
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[16:49] <Infitialis> alfredodeza: you do say that about the guide but it's a crucial part to install ceph ;)
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[19:54] <Infitialis> is the ceph client just a random client that is going to store a file on the cluster or is it part of the cluster?
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[19:57] <Infitialis> I'm trying to mount my cluster but I was wondering if you really need to install ceph client on my client
[19:58] <mikedawson> joshd: ping
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[20:02] <mikedawson> Infitialis: the ceph client isn't part of the cluster per se. The cluster is comprised of Ceph Monitors and OSDs (and possibly mds for cephfs).
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[20:06] <Infitialis> mikedawson: But do I need to install it to mount the ceph cluster?
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[20:07] <mikedawson> Infitialis: I install it
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[20:08] <Infitialis> mikedawson: so you can't just mount the cluster with the mount.ceph command without the client?
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[20:13] <mikedawson> Infitialis: I do not use cephfs, so I don't know.
[20:14] <Infitialis> hm okay thx anyway
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[20:27] <ponyofdeath> hi, is the data pool needed or is it ok to remove?
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[20:31] <dmick> ponyofdeath: it's used for cephfs. it doesn't really consume resources to speak of so there's little benefit to removing it
[20:31] <dmick> (unless you're using cephfs of course)
[20:32] <ponyofdeath> dmick: well problem is that i was
[20:32] <ponyofdeath> dmick: i moved everything off but am not able to delete some files on it and i think its causing problems with the cluster trying to replicate the data on it
[20:33] <ponyofdeath> so hoping removing it
[20:33] <ponyofdeath> then readding it
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[20:56] <ponyofdeath> dmick: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7232011 any idea how to recover from this?
[20:57] <ponyofdeath> dmick: this is after i brought up a new host and addes some osd's and is started to reabalnce
[20:57] <ponyofdeath> i think it has something to do with my above statements
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[21:14] <wrencsok> with recent ceph builds I was wondering if anyone has gotten ofcs2 to work across multiple qemu-kvm guests using a cross attached rbd volume? In dumpling, with all caching disabled in the guests, I get a split brain where each guest has a different picture of the rbd volume and after some load eventually ocfs2 complains about corruption of the rbd volume and goes read only.
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[23:33] <jetole> Hey guys. I'm getting ready to begin deployment of a enterprise ceph cluster, well starting with a staging cluster but anyways, I noticed firefly is in the RC and was wondering if anyone knew roughly when it would be stable released
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