#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-04-08

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[5:38] <aarontc> does the 0.79 release contain the fix for bug #7922? I don't know how to query the commit history through github that well
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[5:48] <classicsnail> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/1600 would suggest yes
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[6:13] <aarontc> classicsnail: how did you find that? (want to learn not just ask questions :) )
[6:14] <classicsnail> um, searched the github ceph repo for the particular change id, linked in the bug report you submitted
[6:14] <classicsnail> and explored the history of the branch
[6:15] <aarontc> hmm okay
[6:15] <aarontc> thanks :)
[6:15] <aarontc> I probably should have just pulled the repo and grepped it :(
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[8:17] <phoenix> hi all
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[8:23] <phoenix> I have a bunch of proftpd + ceph and I have a problem I can not decide. When the user folder appears enough files proftpd ceases to login. In log proftpd see: ceph-client proftpd [5706] 10.1.9.11 (10.1.10.106 [10.1.10.106]): fatal: memory exhausted. if you do strase to processes: rt_sigreturn (0x11) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call). Debian OS. anyone have any ideas?
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[10:20] <ksingh> Happy to see release of 0.79 RC , and running it now .
[10:20] <ksingh> Problem :: 0.79 does not have erasure-code-profile command set . Which is mentioned in documentation
[10:20] <ksingh> http://ceph.com/docs/master/dev/erasure-coded-pool/#interface
[10:20] <ksingh> # ceph osd erasure-code-profile
[10:20] <ksingh> no valid command found; 10 closest matches:
[10:21] <ksingh> Any idea on this
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[10:53] <phoenix> I have a bunch of proftpd + ceph and I have a problem I can not decide. When the user folder appears enough files proftpd ceases to login. In log proftpd see: ceph-client proftpd [5706] 10.1.9.11 (10.1.10.106 [10.1.10.106]): fatal: memory exhausted. if you do strase to processes: rt_sigreturn (0x11) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call). Debian OS. anyone have any ideas?
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[11:43] <dock> Hi I'm experiencing avialability issues where there shouldn't be any, when we added new OSDs to grow our pool
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[11:44] <dock> One of the current OSDs became unavailable, most likely due to hardware failure, so we toke it down
[11:44] <dock> that is when all hell broke loose
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[11:45] <dock> Mappings worked fine, however we kept getting errno 5 from all writing syscalls
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[11:46] <dock> We just changed the min_size to 1 and that resolved all stale PGs, now IO works again. I guess crisis averted
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[11:47] <lathiat> Glad to hear you resolved it, I'd have no hope of helping you though!
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[11:48] <ksingh> what was the min_size before you changed it ?
[11:48] <dock> 2
[11:49] <dock> but since we had replica level of 3 that should done it?
[11:50] <ksingh> so you mean the pool have replica level 3 , whose OSD failed
[11:50] <dock> yes
[11:51] <dock> one of 35 failed
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[11:52] <ksingh> but how did min_size = 1 in ceph.conf helped you to resolved this issue
[11:52] <dock> The main problem I've been experiencing is that the rbd client managed to map "successfully" when in fact i couldn't write to them
[11:52] <dock> I'm not sure it did
[11:53] <ksingh> did you also added new OSD ? at the same time time when one failed
[11:53] <dock> I was adding 12 when one went down
[11:53] <dock> and the one failing OSD gave me stale PGs
[11:53] <dock> which I don't understand how that could happen
[11:54] <ksingh> what i believe is ,as soon as you added 12 OSD , ceph has started rebalancing objects to these new 12 OSD
[11:54] <ksingh> this might made cluster a bit slow
[11:54] <ksingh> and clients can connect but write was not getting committed
[11:55] <ksingh> and as soon as cluster became normal , you realised problem is gone
[11:56] <ksingh> usually min_size parameter comes into play when we create a new pool with rados mkpool , it takes value from ceph.conf
[11:56] <ksingh> and creates the pool , after that min_size is not at all required
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[11:57] <dock> Reads seems to have been broken too, filesystems were mounted, but stat did not give me correct information and it didn't fail
[11:58] <dock> Going to have to dig through a lot of logs before I can say what has happened
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[12:01] <ksingh> yeah logs might reveal some more interesting story , looking forward to know more on this
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[12:24] <dock> After going through the CRUSH map we seem to have found the reason that we got stale pgs, we have have goofed the root balance make a third of the OSD about 3 times as heavy. That with the min_size of 2 could have put all replicas in the same OSD
[12:28] <dock> It could also be that it didn't get pushed from journal fast enough, we are talking about a time span of 20min during rebalance and high IO
[12:31] <Fruit> as I understand it, min_size should not affect data placement, just how quickly applications decide that data was committed to stable storage
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[12:33] <Fruit> hmm, unless it's the min_size from a crush rule
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[14:23] <dock> Fruit: it is the min_size from "rule rbd {" block
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[14:26] <Fruit> dock: right, that may cause the rule to get ignored completely
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[14:37] <Amto_res> Hello, I currently have two node. I therefore generates the OSD on each node. When I do a "ceph-w" I see my OSD and the cumulative size of the two OSD
[14:37] <Amto_res> This is with the use of'' Storage Pools "that will allow me to cluster Ie: I would see a RBD size of an OSD because the data will be replicated between the two : (a kind of DRBD active / active)
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[14:45] <dock> Fruit: you can have a look here http://pastebin.com/0dtrYznm if you want to, note that the osd.17 is intentionally taken out and that the root balance is wrong
[14:45] <dock> ksingh: you might also want to have a look
[14:45] <Fruit> dock: sorry, CVE-2014-0160 is currently taking up my time
[14:46] <dock> hehe
[14:46] <dock> I meant mostly for your own curisoity
[14:46] <dock> I don't expect this to happen again
[14:47] <dock> The amount of stale PGs I had seems consistent with a very short period of extreme inbalance in the root weights and a failing OSD
[14:47] <dock> 6 out of 1400
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[16:27] <tracphil> Is anyone here using ceph with Cloudstack?
[16:27] <Fruit> tracphil: in a test setup, yes
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[16:29] <tracphil> Fruit: how is that going for you? Are you using KVM hypervisors?
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[16:35] <Fruit> tracphil: yeah. works like a charm, really.
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[16:39] <Fruit> tracphil: havana with dumpling, fwiw
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[16:53] <ifur> any tips for projects to implements an archive using S3/Swift/librados/radosgw?
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[17:15] <tracphil> Fruit: are you using openstack or cloudstack?
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[17:38] <Fruit> tracphil: plain openstack from gplhost.com
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[17:42] <n1md4> hi. is there such a thing as hunting for ophaned objects?
[17:42] <n1md4> I deleted a pool before removing images, and now have 50G that's lost to ether of ceph ... !
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[17:57] <mattch> n1md4; I might be wrong, but I think this will happen with a scrub/deep-scrub
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[18:02] <n1md4> mattch: I've had a number of "x.xx scrub ok" type messages, but the usage doesn't appear to have gone down, in the last week.
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[19:09] <_NiC> Hi guys. I'm being told that for a ceph cluster, I will need 3 monitor nodes and 5 storage nodes, is this correct? Can I combine the two? I also want to run the KVM hypervisor on the storage node (tiny budget), will that work?
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[19:13] <janos> _NiC, you bare needs are actually less, but that's a nice set up recommendation
[19:14] <janos> it is not recommended to combine Mons with OSD nodes
[19:14] <janos> you don't want a mon to get in contention for resources
[19:15] <janos> i'm prettys some have run guests on storage nodes
[19:15] <janos> *pretty sure
[19:15] <janos> you technically only need one Mon, but for safety reasons i would recommend 3
[19:16] <janos> if you are just setting up an initial test cluster, 1 will do you
[19:16] <janos> how many disks/OSD's per storage node are you thinking about?
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[19:17] <_NiC> janos, Not sure I know what OSD is in that context, but we have a few servers with 8 disks each, that we were planning on using for storage and VM's
[19:18] <_NiC> janos, and we do have some servers with less local disk that we could use for monitors
[19:18] <janos> typically you map one OSD to one disk
[19:18] <janos> you don't have to, but it's recommended
[19:19] <_NiC> ok, then 8. or, well.. since we're having VM's on there as well, possibly 6, depending on how we do the OS stuff.
[19:19] <janos> to start, if 3 storage nodes gets you the raw space you need you could do that and use 2 nodes for hypervisors
[19:19] <janos> keep in mind that the more hosts you spread the cluster across, the less individual thrash you'll have when one goes down
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[19:20] <janos> it sounds like you'll want to build a test cluster first that you don't mind trashing a few times
[19:21] <_NiC> We're actually getting someone to build it for us, but I still want to know how it works :-) And of course, I need to provide the hardware.
[19:21] <_NiC> But yes, it would probably be a good idea to play with it. Break it a few times.
[19:21] <_NiC> Only then I'd need more servers..
[19:21] <janos> definitely
[19:22] <janos> if you're like the majority of us, you'll do some goofy things at first
[19:22] <_NiC> Can I run the monitor on a virtual machine?
[19:22] <janos> you can
[19:22] <janos> the main problem that can happen is if things get real intense, you don't want monitors to go down or get bogged down
[19:22] <janos> they are VERY important
[19:23] <janos> my home cluster has them on VM's though
[19:23] <janos> ;)
[19:23] <_NiC> :) I see.
[19:23] <janos> though i'm looking at the new minnowboards coming in june to get them physical
[19:23] <janos> something small
[19:23] <janos> my home cluster isn't exactly lifting heavy weights
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[19:29] <_NiC> Hm, I got sucked into the docs.
[19:29] <_NiC> I'll read a bit more. Thanks for help (so far) :-)
[19:29] <janos> np
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[20:46] <pavera> anyone else see instability using the rbd kernel driver when the cluster/crushmap changes?
[20:47] <pavera> I can pretty reliably hang an ubuntu 12.04 client machine if it has an RBD mapped and I add an OSD to the cluster, or add pgs to the pool the mapped rbd resides in
[20:49] <joshd> pavera: which kernel version? the default 3.2 is pretty old at this point
[20:49] <pavera> yeah, in this instance it is the 3.2 stock kernel??? I???ll try updating and see if the problem continues
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[20:51] <lurbs> pavera: I'd recommend using a kernel from the LTS enablement stack. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
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[20:52] <pavera> yeah thats actually what we are running on most of our machines
[20:52] <pavera> I just forgot to update this one???
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[20:53] <pavera> and have been messing with it all morning but have hung it 2 or 3 times now..
[20:53] <pavera> didn???t even think about the kernel, as soon as joshd said that I slapped myself in the face
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[21:19] <imriz> Hi, I have a Ceph cluster (dumpling) with rados gw. In the past hour, my haproxy servers get timeouts from the rados-gw. In the Apache error log, I see many of those: "FastCGI: comm with server "/var/www/s3gw.fcgi" aborted: idle timeout (30 sec)"
[21:19] <imriz> Nothing in the Ceph logs (ceph.log/radosgw.log) that might indicate a problem
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[22:16] <bjornar> any tools for crush map "design"?
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[22:28] <n1md4> I'm just this will documented somewhere, but, what's the difference between used and data amounts in the output of ceph -s? I have "108 GB data, 262 GB used, 8110 GB / 8373 GB avail" I can obviously see the 8110 is the difference between the used and the available, but what is 'used' and what is 'data' ?
[22:29] <n1md4> ..I'm using ceph as block storage, and have 5x 100G VMs, with very low disk space usage.
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[22:45] <pmatulis> n1md4: 'data' is your data, 'used' is the space in your cluster that is used. you probably have a replication factor of 2 (108 x 2 + metadata ~= 262)
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[22:54] <n1md4> pmatulis: ah, yes .. I'd totally forgotten about replication :-| ... that makes sense. thanks
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