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IRC Log for 2014-04-07

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[0:53] <classicsnail> anyone know if there's a benefit to increasing the osd deep scrube stride value to a larger chunk?
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[2:37] <lurbs> Is there a sane and easy way of finding out the number of distinct and valid placement groups, assuming n osds, h hosts, and r replicas, and a simple CRUSH map that just prevents the replicas on the same host?
[2:38] <lurbs> I can brute force find a value easily enough, but that seems like cheating.
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[5:11] <aarontc> anyone have pointers on how to resolve pgs that don't replicate? I have enough nodes, using the default crush map, but still have several pgs that are only using one or two OSDs instead of 4
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[5:16] <aarontc> pg 5.98 is incomplete, acting [7] (reducing pool cephfs-metadata min_size from 2 may help; search ceph.com/docs for 'incomplete')
[5:16] <aarontc> I don't understand why that pg isn't being replicated properly
[5:16] <aarontc> pg query: http://hastebin.com/jenomovaqe
[5:18] <lurbs> How many OSDs, and hosts, do you have?
[5:18] <aarontc> lurbs: 5 hosts, 20 OSDs
[5:19] <lurbs> Have you looked at http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/crush-map/#tunables
[5:19] <aarontc> I have tuned to optimal values, yes
[5:22] <aarontc> (through CRUSH_TUNABLES2, that is)
[5:23] <lurbs> The recovery_state section looks slightly odd to me.
[5:23] <aarontc> looks like I can't enable CRUSH_TUNABLES3 because kernel.org doesn't have 3.15 yet ;)
[5:23] <aarontc> lurbs: odd in what way?
[5:25] <aarontc> though I am curious.. chooseleaf_vary_r: Whether a recursive chooseleaf attempt will start with a non-zero value of r, based on how many attempts the parent has already made. Legacy default is 0, but with this value CRUSH is sometimes unable to find a mapping.
[5:25] <lurbs> Looks like it's trying to peer (state of "Started\/Primary\/Peering"), but hasn't managed it for some reason.
[5:26] * lurbs <-- Warning: not an expert on PG peering.
[5:27] <aarontc> is it possible to enable a tunable for testing and then turn it off again?
[5:30] <lurbs> Not sure, sorry.
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[5:35] <aarontc> no worries, thanks for trying to help
[5:35] <aarontc> I just added two pools and they seemed fine, but all of a sudden I have incomplete pgs and degraded pgs
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[5:42] <aarontc> I am inferring from the documentation that tunable values can be changed back to the defaults later, so I'm trying the optimal to see if that fixes the incomplete pgs
[5:45] <aarontc> yeah, that was the problem. chooseleaf_vary_r fixed the incomplete PGs
[5:45] <aarontc> looks like I'll have to use the FUSE client instead of kernel until 3.15 :(
[5:47] <lurbs> Out of curiosity, does it work without chooseleaf_vary_r if your size is 3 instead of 4?
[5:47] <lurbs> BBBBBBOr are you not in a position to check?
[5:47] <aarontc> lurbs: no, I even tried size 2 and still no go
[5:48] <lurbs> Ugly. Fortunately I've never had to use the kernel driver. Everything we're doing in using userspace clients.
[5:48] <aarontc> yeah, I even have an NFS export because most of my fleet is Ubuntu and getting a 3.13 kernel on them is a b*tch
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[12:31] <ksingh> anyone have ceph osd erasure-code-profile command set in your ceph version cluster ??
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[13:12] <ksingh> what is the object size in ceph ??
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[13:50] <isodude> regarding the ceph-users mailing-list, is it possible to mail the ceph-users@lists.ceph.com without being a subscriber?
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[14:05] <ksingh> isodude : no i dont think so , if it would have possible then spammers can easily target large communities to spam using mailing lists.
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[14:05] <ksingh> but i never tried it
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[14:06] <isodude> hopefully someone is around to accept me. ;)
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[14:22] <mkutsevol> mikedawson, I managed to repair the cluster. As for me it's a bit magic, but doable. Thank you.
[14:24] <mkutsevol> ksingh, ceph is an object store internally. Even if you use a higher level interface (eg CephFS) it uses objects stored in Ceph.
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[15:09] <ksingh> mkutsevol - what is per object size
[15:10] <mkutsevol> I'm a newbie too, lets understand it together. Where do you see 'object size' you are interested in?
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[16:05] <isodude> ksingh, the object size, from what I've gathered, varies up to 4MB.
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[16:09] <ksingh> isodude : do you have some experience in Erasure coding i want to correlate object size with erasure coding ? any one interested to discuss right now on this ?? it might be helpful discusion
[16:10] <ksingh> mkutsevol : object size came to as as random question , when i was stressing on EC
[16:11] <isodude> ksingh, no experience in erasure coding at all, sorry.
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[17:32] <machete> hello
[17:33] <machete> any chance anyone's tried using an rbd mapped disk as root ?
[17:33] <machete> I have a physical server atm that's using two raid1 volumes - one for /boot which I'll image onto an iscsi disk via vmware which should not be an issue
[17:33] <machete> and another one that I want to be mapped on boot
[17:33] <machete> is there any support in grub or the kernel to do that ?
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[17:54] <sage> machete: at the moment you need to use an initrd to set up the rbd mapping
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[17:56] <topro_> as cephfs makes its way, is it still a bad idea to mount cephfs on osd cluster nodes?
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[18:19] <zoltan> hi
[18:19] <zoltan> any idea why ceph-deploy osd create would only work on monitor nodes (shared for osd+monitor, not separate monitor) but not on any other node?
[18:20] <zoltan> I can ping the monitor IPs from the host, but the disk never gets mounted or ceph-osd started; and /var/log/ceph is empty
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[18:23] <zoltan> I do see it for a tiny bit mounted as a random mount place
[18:24] <zoltan> /dev/sda1 1947319356 33056 1947286300 1% /var/lib/ceph/tmp/mnt.hGk31Y
[18:24] <zoltan> but then it's gone
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[18:32] <pmatulis> zoltan: you cannot create an OSD unless it co-habitates with a MON?
[18:32] <zoltan> exactly
[18:32] <zoltan> ceph-deploy does not give me any error, tho
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[18:33] <joerocklin> zoltan: there was some conversation last week about ceph-deploy not being able to add new OSDs to an existing cluster. Though I don't remember the exact scenario.
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[18:34] <zoltan> no error message, nothing under /var/log/ceph, just this :S
[18:35] <zoltan> I did a purge and purgedata and it did help in the tests during the morning
[18:35] <zoltan> but now even that doesn't
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[18:36] <joerocklin> zoltan: have you tried the manual OSD steps: https://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/add-or-rm-osds/
[18:36] <zoltan> that will be the next thing I do
[18:38] <pmatulis> what a horrible-sounding bug joerocklin , has a bug been filed?
[18:38] <joerocklin> I'm not sure - I wasn't too involved, just saw the conversation
[18:39] <joerocklin> in general, it seems like ceph-deploy doesn't quite live up to its promise. though I haven't worked with it in a while
[18:39] <zoltan> no, it doesn't
[18:39] <zoltan> buggy as hell
[18:40] <zoltan> ok, tried again with parted delete partitions, purge, purdata, dd write for the first 100 megs on the disk with zeroes
[18:40] <zoltan> and then ceph-deploy osd create again
[18:41] <zoltan> no luck
[18:41] <pmatulis> zoltan: please file a bug on the tracker
[18:41] <pmatulis> http://tracker.ceph.com/projects/ceph/issues
[18:42] <pmatulis> zoltan: what release of ceph?
[18:42] <zoltan> yeah if I cannot constantly reproduce it it's not going to do any good, will it? :-)
[18:42] <pmatulis> zoltan: and of ceph-deploy?
[18:42] <zoltan> 0.72.2 and the latest git from ceph-deploy
[18:44] <zoltan> interesting..
[18:44] <zoltan> http://pastebin.com/vQQVKjsv
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[18:46] <zoltan> if I do an rm -rf and clear the osd partition (instead of leaving ceph-deploy's mess there) I don't get any error
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[19:42] <valeech> per the quick start preflight checklist I ran:wget -q -O- 'https://ceph.com/git/?p=ceph.git;a=blob_plain;f=keys/release.asc' | sudo apt-key add -
[19:42] <valeech> and echo deb http://ceph.com/debian-{ceph-stable-release} / $(lsb_release -sc) main | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ceph.list
[19:42] <valeech> and then this: sudo apt-get install ceph-deploy
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[19:42] <valeech> Reading package lists... Done
[19:42] <valeech> Building dependency tree
[19:42] <valeech> Reading state information... Done
[19:42] <valeech> E: Unable to locate package ceph-deploy
[19:42] <valeech> any ideas?
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[19:43] <valeech> I am running ubuntu 12.04LTS
[19:43] <bjornar> Any docs available on ceph io performance on ssd?
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[19:55] <xarses> valeech: did you replace {ceph-stable-release} in the echo with something valid?
[19:55] <xarses> also you have to apt-get update before the install but after the ehco
[19:56] <valeech> xarses: I just figured that out and it installed. I am such a n00b :) Thanks
[19:57] <xarses> valeech: happens, I had to look at that three times before I found the issue
[19:57] <valeech> RTFM
[19:57] <valeech> great, now I???m that guy :)
[20:03] <bjornar> sage, are there public data available for ceph on ssd io performance?
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[20:45] <valeech> is is possible to mix drive sizes in a ceph cluster? For instance, I have a bunch of 2TB drives and a bunch of 600GB drives. Can I mix them in a cluster and pool and have all of the space usable or will it cap the space at the 600GB drives?
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[20:46] <Fruit> yes you can mix them
[20:48] <joerocklin> valeech: I'm pretty sure it won't cap usage, though your replication value choices may alter how much space can be used
[20:48] <joerocklin> I dont really know how that gets handled
[20:50] <valeech> great. Thanks!
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[21:06] <valeech> just installed a new cluster following the QS guide, and when I issue the ceph health command I get:
[21:06] <valeech> 2014-04-07 15:06:04.595101 7f5dadb0c780 unable to authenticate as client.admin
[21:06] <valeech> 2014-04-07 15:06:04.595594 7f5dadb0c780 ceph_tool_common_init failed.
[21:07] <valeech> I verified the keyring is in /etc/ceph on the monitors and osd servers
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[21:08] <ksingh> valeech - do you have client.admin keyring in /etc/ceph directory
[21:09] <ksingh> this directory should have keyrings for client , mon and osd
[21:09] <xarses> valeech: if your admin key is not @ /etc/ceph/client.admin and not accessible by you the error can occur
[21:10] <xarses> if your key is somewhere else, you need to pass -K <path/to/key>
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[21:10] <xarses> alternatly, it doesn't exist because the monitor was not in quorum when you did 'ceph-deploy gatherkeys'
[21:12] <valeech> the ceph.client.admin.keyring file is in /etc/ceph on my 3 monitor servers as well as my 3 storage nodes. It is also in /etc/ceph on my admin node.
[21:12] <valeech> And the contents are the same on all nodes
[21:12] <valeech> I only have 1 monitor right now on my admin node.
[21:13] <xarses> does 'ceph -s' on your monitor or 'ceph -s -K /etc/ceph/ceph.client.admin.keyring' work?
[21:14] <valeech> neither of thoes work...
[21:14] <valeech> those*
[21:14] <valeech> how can I verify where a monitor is installed?
[21:15] <xarses> on the monitor, 'ps -axu | grep ceph' and pastebin the results
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[21:17] <valeech> ok, there is no monitor running
[21:18] <joshuay04> Is CephFS production ready?
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[21:19] <valeech> I was wrong. the monitor is running on a different box.
[21:19] <valeech> $ ps aux | grep ceph
[21:19] <valeech> root 3163 0.3 2.5 197476 26300 ? Ssl 14:39 0:08 /usr/bin/ceph-mon --cluster=ceph -i cephmon1 -f
[21:19] <valeech> root 6144 0.1 0.3 73448 3536 ? Ss 15:18 0:00 sshd: cephadmin [priv]
[21:19] <valeech> 1001 6296 0.0 0.1 73448 1492 ? S 15:18 0:00 sshd: cephadmin@pts/1
[21:19] <valeech> 1001 6312 0.0 0.0 9392 884 pts/1 S+ 15:19 0:00 grep ceph
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[21:22] <xarses> joshuay04: no
[21:23] <xarses> valeech: is your ceph.conf mon_host and mon_address pointing to that node?
[21:24] <valeech> I only have a mon_host entry no mon_address entry
[21:24] <valeech> and mon_host points to that node
[21:24] <xarses> sorry not mon_address, mon_initial_members
[21:25] <xarses> and you can resolve that name in mon_host
[21:29] <JCL2> valeech: I bet you have run ceph auth list to verify client.admin had been created with the correct caps?
[21:29] <valeech> mon_initial_members = cephmon1
[21:30] <valeech> The only node that had correct name reoslution was the cephadmin node. I just updated the host files on all other nodes to match. Do I need to restart ceph on all nodes now?
[21:33] <xarses> shouldn't need too
[21:33] <xarses> any luck with ceph -s (from cephmon1)?
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[21:34] <valeech> ceph -s from cephmon:
[21:34] <valeech> 2014-04-07 15:34:22.162697 7f7ae99d2700 -1 monclient(hunting): ERROR: missing keyring, cannot use cephx for authentication
[21:34] <valeech> 2014-04-07 15:34:22.163022 7f7ae99d2700 0 librados: client.admin initialization error (2) No such file or directory
[21:34] <valeech> Error connecting to cluster: ObjectNotFound
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[21:35] <xarses> check that /etc/ceph/ceph.client.admin.keyring is present, and then pass it on 'ceph -s -K /etc/ceph/ceph.client.admin.keyring'
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[21:36] <valeech> $ ceph -s -K /etc/ceph/ceph.client.admin.keyring
[21:36] <valeech> 2014-04-07 15:36:39.702744 7fba591da700 -1 auth: can't open /etc/ceph/ceph.client.admin.keyring: (13) Permission denied
[21:36] <valeech> 2014-04-07 15:36:39.703004 7fba591da700 0 librados: client.admin initialization error (13) Permission denied
[21:36] <valeech> Error connecting to cluster: Error
[21:37] <valeech> $ cd /etc/ceph
[21:37] <valeech> $ ls -la
[21:37] <valeech> total 20
[21:37] <valeech> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 7 15:00 .
[21:37] <valeech> drwxr-xr-x 91 root root 4096 Apr 7 15:27 ..
[21:37] <valeech> -rw------- 1 root root 64 Apr 7 15:00 ceph.client.admin.keyring
[21:37] <valeech> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 302 Apr 7 15:00 ceph.conf
[21:37] <valeech> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 92 Dec 20 17:01 rbdmap
[21:37] <xarses> and is your user root?
[21:38] <valeech> if I do sudo ceph -s it works
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[21:39] <xarses> yep, that was like the first thing i said
[21:39] <valeech> that is on a monitor. the sudo does not work on the admin node
[21:41] <valeech> so how do I make the user root?
[21:42] <valeech> cephadmin ALL = (root) NOPASSWD:ALL is my sudoers file
[21:48] <valeech> xarses: thanks for the help! I think I just need to figure out to get the cephadmin node to auth and I am good. from the monitor when I run ceph -s it says 192 active+clean. Thanks again!
[21:52] <machete> thanks sage
[21:53] <machete> guess I'll need at least the cluster network and ceph and rbd in the initrd
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[21:54] <machete> got the guy whose server it is to compile ceph into kernel so should be able to rig busybox or sth with a network config in initrd
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[22:01] <valeech> xarses: I re-ran ceph-deploy admin cephadmin and now everything works. I say re-ran because I thought I ran it. apparently not. Thanks again!
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[23:05] <cynosure> how to go about configuring cinder with ceph. i followed https://ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/. 1. Setup ceph client for cinder 2. setup auth keys 3. configure cinder 4. restart cinder-volume but not able to create volume on ceph storage
[23:05] <cynosure> Am i missing something
[23:07] <Fruit> did you check the logs? any error messages?
[23:08] <cynosure> Fruit : Are the steps which I am trying correct ? Right now I am just focusing on create volume
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