#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-03-19

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[3:54] <h6w> I seem to have a ceph-mon running, but I can't do "ceph mon_status". It tells me that the Connection timed out.
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[6:02] <h6w> I'm trying to change the IPs of my ceph machines. I've extracted the monitor map and the keyring, but when I attempt to add the new IP, it times out.
[6:02] <h6w> If I port-scan the new IP, nothing is open. How do I tell ceph about the new IP?
[6:03] <h6w> Should I change mon_host in ceph.conf?
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[6:37] <h6w> I don't think state "probing" is right. Why would quorum be empty, and my only monitor be "outside_quorum"? http://ix.io/ba5
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[10:17] <winston-d> has anyone ever tried using ramdisk for OSD journal?
[10:18] <fghaas> winston-d: yes
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[10:23] <dwm> winston-d: Goes fast, but the OSD breaks if you lose power or crash!
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[10:29] <winston-d> fghaas: i'm looking for some document for setting up multiple block devices using ram so that OSDs can utilize.
[10:29] <winston-d> fghaas: do you have any pointer that I can refer to ?
[10:30] <winston-d> dwm: yes, I am aware of that, just wanted to experiment something
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[10:50] <LeaChim> I've just upgraded a test cluster to Emporer, and one of my S3 buckets seems to have broken. s3 access is returning a 500 code (UnknownError). and I get this output from bucket stats: 2014-03-19 09:48:37.931952 7f373c9fb780 0 could not get bucket info for bucket=productimages
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[13:28] <bboris> hi
[13:28] <bboris> i have a problem
[13:29] <bboris> last night i removed a rack from the crush map and the monitors crashed
[13:30] <bboris> now i can't seem to start them together because when they see each other, one of the monitors crashes with segfault
[13:30] <bboris> is there a way to get the crush map without starting the monitors, i.e. without using the ceph comand
[13:31] <bboris> something like ceph-osd --extract-crushmap like ceph-mon has a --extract monmap option
[13:33] <bboris> also, the rack i removed was in step take in a rule in the crush map
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[13:48] <bboris> i really hope that there is a sane way of fixing such thing
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[15:02] <sage> bboris: ceph-monstore-tool --mon-store-path /var/lib/ceph/mon/ceph-`hostname` --getosdmap <epoch> --out /tmp/foo
[15:02] <sage> bboris: there is also --dumpkeys that will let you figure out which epochs are stored
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[15:03] <bboris> where do i find this tool? i dont have it in my ceph installation
[15:03] <sage> bboris: the bigger question though is why the mons are crashing; can you post the end of the lock with teh stack trace to ceph-devel?
[15:03] <sage> it's in teh ceph-test package
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[15:22] <bboris> @sage posted a paste in ceph-devel
[15:22] <cephalobot> bboris: Error: "sage" is not a valid command.
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[15:30] <bboris> ceph-monstore-tool has no options --getosdmap or --dumpkeys
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[15:30] <bboris> also passing "--command help" to it makes it segfault too
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[15:34] <Keksior> Hello. Anyone could help me with CEPH networking. I'vs got public and cluster network defined, but the client connects to ceph using interface from public and from cluster network, why ? How forbid ceph data go through public network ?
[15:36] <PerlStalker> Keksior: IIRC, the cluster network is for the ceph nodes to talk to each other for replication and the like.
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[15:36] <PerlStalker> The public network is what clients use to talk to the osds.
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[15:37] <bitblt> could try setting some iptables rules to block client traffic on the cluster network
[15:38] <Keksior> PerlStalker: this was so obvious :), thanks for answering
[15:38] <Keksior> i'm fighting with openstack cloud, and my vm runs very very slow ;/
[15:39] <Keksior> of course vm volumes are on ceph :)
[15:40] <PerlStalker> There are a lot of things that go into that.
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[16:30] <dwm> I'm attempting to add a cap to an OSD key, such that an OSD has sufficient privileges to destroy itself.
[16:30] <dwm> ... specifically, such that it can cancel its own cephx key.
[16:31] <dwm> From reading src/mon/MonCap.h, I'm attempting to express such using: ceph auth caps osd.1 mon 'allow command auth arg1=del arg2=osd.1' osd 'allow *' mon 'allow profile osd'.
[16:32] <dwm> First problem: this doesn't seem to afford the OSD the necessary privilege; running 'ceph auth del osd.1' with --name and --keyring set appropriately fails with EACCES.
[16:33] <dwm> Second problem: only one [mon] grant appears to exist at a given time; the 'allow command' incantation trumps the later 'allow profile osd'.
[16:34] <dwm> I suspect the right answer is to add the necessary capabilities to the [mon] osd profile.
[16:38] <dwm> .. and that I'm getting the ceph auth caps incantation subtly wrong.
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[16:58] <jerker> Has anyone been benchmarking the hybrid SSHD drives with Ceph? They look very interesting.
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[16:59] <jerker> I meant to skip running journal on SSD. Just use the SSHD and then either btrfs or journal and data on same drive.
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[17:02] <dwm> jerker: I haven't seen a description of precisely how they behave, cache-wise.
[17:03] <dwm> (i.e. do they only cache reads? only writes? both? What happens when the flash in the HDD fails? etc.)
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[17:24] <dwm> Okay, after poking the source and the command-line, I think I have a working solution.
[17:25] <dwm> Before I expend time putting a testing pull-request together, is there any reason why an OSD _shouldn't_ be able to destroy its own cephx key?
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[17:41] <loicd> Is http://www.scaleio.com/ worth looking at ? Or is it just packaging and nothing new software wise ?
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[17:45] <dwm> loicd: It appears to only offer block-device export.
[17:47] <dwm> It does seem to offer IOP/bandwidth throttling per-client. It describes "two-copy meshed mirroring", which suggests perhaps only 2x copies of each bit.
[17:48] <loicd> could it be the re-packaging of an existing EMC product ?
[17:48] <dwm> Possibly vSAN, split out?
[17:50] <loicd> scale.io was acquired by EMC so probably not ?
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[18:22] <Haksoldier> EUZUBILLAHIMINE??EYTANIRRACIM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM
[18:22] <Haksoldier> ALLAHU EKBERRRRR! LA ?LAHE ?LLALLAH MUHAMMEDEN RESULULLAH!
[18:22] <Haksoldier> I did the obligatory prayers five times a day to the nation. And I promised myself that, who (beside me) taking care not to make the five daily prayers comes ahead of time, I'll put it to heaven. Who says prayer does not show attention to me I do not have a word for it.! Prophet Muhammad (s.a.v.)
[18:22] <Haksoldier> hell if you did until the needle tip could not remove your head from prostration Prophet Muhammad pbuh
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[18:44] * Anticimex seen a couple of scaleio presos recently
[18:45] * Anticimex read "EMC" above
[18:45] <Anticimex> anyway, would I be able to put 72x3.5" behind 2 sockets and run ceph per drive? what's 4TB OSD <-> RAM <-> CPU ratio, per say?
[18:45] <Anticimex> 4TB drive performing ~100 IOPS or so..
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[18:46] <Anticimex> loicd: scaleio is a bit young, block only, but perhaps simpler than ceph. also less scalable
[18:47] <Anticimex> single 4k read, and dual 4k write
[18:47] <Anticimex> performs quite well, but it's young and proprietary and block-only
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[18:48] <Anticimex> loicd: scaleio is israeli startup, acquired perhaps because of ceph..
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[19:02] <loicd> Anticimex: thanks for the update :-)
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[19:52] <JeffK> Is striping with parity across OSDs still coming with FireFly?
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[19:55] <dwm> JeffK: That's my understanding. See also 'erasure coding'.
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[20:15] <pieterl> is firefly still scheduled for the next ubuntu LTS? :)
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[23:00] <JeffK> So, is there no ceph package for Saucy (Ubuntu 13.10)?
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[23:02] <bandrus> JeffK: coming soon. http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/6726
[23:03] <dmick> (and if you want to get nightlies rather than distinguished builds, you can get them)
[23:05] <JeffK> Oh, yeah, I'll just do that. Where might I find info on adding the nightlies to my repository?
[23:06] <dmick> http://ceph.com/docs/master/install/get-packages/#add-ceph-development
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[23:09] <JeffK> Thank you very much!
[23:10] <dmick> np
[23:10] <dmick> take the stability warnings seriously; you could get broken stuff
[23:11] <Anticimex> ok, i did a session to learn how SSDs work w.r.t consistent write performance over time, etc, and endurance
[23:11] <Anticimex> now i wonder -- the ceph write log (or what it's called) how ... do you size that?
[23:11] <Anticimex> good random write iops, fine. but how large should it be..?
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[23:15] <Anticimex> http://www.hastexo.com/resources/hints-and-kinks/solid-state-drives-and-ceph-osd-journals neat
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[23:46] <lluis> Whn I run the OSD deamon with "ceph-osd -f ..." it seems to take the hostname defined in /etc/hostname and the IP address associated with it. Is there any way to bind the OSD to a specific IP address/host?
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