#ceph IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-03-18

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[8:25] <cofol1986> Hi everyone, I compile ceph 0.72 for rpm package.
[8:25] <cofol1986> I got this error in the end:
[8:25] <cofol1986> RPM build errors:
[8:25] <cofol1986> Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
[8:25] <cofol1986> /usr/lib64/erasure-code/libec_example.so
[8:26] <cofol1986> can anybody help?
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[10:44] <jerker> I am again having problem when running "ceph-deploy mon create esc5" with a process "python /usr/sbin/ceph-create-keys -i esc5" that do not finish. Also, the monitor do not start up. Is there anyting simple I can do to fix? Last time I just recreated the storage cluster from scratch, but there must be a simpler method?
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[12:35] <Qu310> i have a strange issue when i restart all osd's on a single node i start get "XX requests are blocked > 32 sec;" type messages, all pools have 2 or greater replicas and I have 3 mons, find it strange that a whole node going offline effectivly would take out the cluster. any ideas?
[12:38] <Qu310> running 0.72.2
[12:43] <Qu310> also i noticed the load avg on the system spike to like 230 odd
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[13:18] <joshuay04> Is ceph stable enough to host 75% of all my production images? I backup the guest servers every night but I am just wondering if I should split that into another cluster or if the software is solid enough to not have anxiety at night?
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[14:47] <christia1> who
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[16:04] <ksingh> leseb : PING
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[16:22] <loicd> I think I need help from houkouonchi-work to fix http://gitbuilder.sepia.ceph.com/gitbuilder-ceph-deb-saucy-amd64-basic/log.cgi?log=fcbacff7f96cfe6410716de843dee9408c1e0b6b (most probably just the fact that clone is not --recursive ? )
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[16:34] <vince> Can someone give me a status update on this: https://wiki.ceph.com/Planning/Blueprints/Dumpling/RGW_Geo-Replication_and_Disaster_Recovery?
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[16:35] <vince> i.e., is a deployment over a WAN currently a limitation for CEPH?
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[16:40] <scuttlemonkey> vince: cluster-to-cluster replication for gateways is available in Ceph, however it was designed as a DR solution (not highly consistent like a single ceph cluster)
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[16:41] <scuttlemonkey> there is work to make Ceph WAN-scale, but it isn't really there yet
[16:41] <scuttlemonkey> some people are using it across the wire, but they are able to guarantee a high-bandwidth, low-latency connection between all nodes
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[16:42] <fghaas> also, cluster-to-cluster replication is currently radosgw only
[16:42] <scuttlemonkey> yawp
[16:43] <fghaas> as in, people shouldn't extrapolate that this is somehow magically available for rbd or cephfs
[16:43] <scuttlemonkey> hehe
[16:44] <vince> so cluster to cluster is for object-store only, right?
[16:45] <vince> *cluster to cluster replication
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[16:46] <scuttlemonkey> object gateway...that's an important distinction
[16:46] <scuttlemonkey> vince: the plan is eventually to make RADOS (the low level obect store) able to replicate over the WAN
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[16:47] <scuttlemonkey> you can plug RGWs from two different clusters together, though, as a backup solution from one cluster to another
[16:48] <fghaas> or, in OpenStack, you can backup from one ceph cluster to another with cinder and cinder-backup
[16:48] <fghaas> scuttlemonkey: I propose new irc nicks for the both of us, like "conan" and "andy"
[16:48] <joelio> if I set noout when adding OSDs, I should rebalance.. right?
[16:49] * joelio is adding some SSD only hosts
[16:49] <joelio> don't want them part of our rbd pool - but want to tier them and set a rule for the pool/root/
[16:50] <joelio> soory, shouild read - I shouldn't rebalance if I set noout
[16:50] <scuttlemonkey> fghaas: haha, deal
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[18:09] <lluis> I want to store two replicas in the same node, I'm using this rule http://paste.ubuntu.com/7115155/ but it doesn't seem to be working. Any ideas?
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[18:19] <Pedras> any one with hadoop/ceph working?
[18:20] <bitblt> lluis, is the status staying health_warn?
[18:20] <nwat> Pedras: yes
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[18:21] <lluis> bitblt: Yes it is in health_warn
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[18:21] <Pedras> nwat: I am trying to help my hadoop folks use the ceph cluster that I manage but I am not very familiar with hadoop
[18:21] <bitblt> lluis, i believe you need an osd with the replication on a separate node for that to clear up
[18:22] <Pedras> nwat: are there any web sites/info about how to put this together
[18:22] <lluis> can I disable that, I really need to replicas in the same host...
[18:22] <lluis> ?
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[18:22] <Pedras> nwat: they seem to be running into issues with versions of ceph/hadoop/the jar provided my inktank and so on
[18:22] <bitblt> good question, I'm not sure. Any reason why you need to do that? It just adds to the SPOF
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[18:23] <lluis> bitblt, I'm debugging a new Erasure code plugin, and I need to have two OSDs in the same PG
[18:24] <lluis> bitblt, two OSDs from the same host ;)
[18:25] <lluis> bitblt, will it help to bind each OSD to a different virtual network interface? will I fool ceph that way?
[18:25] <bitblt> lluis, possibly, worth a try
[18:26] <lluis> thanks
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[18:26] <nwat> Pedras: you need (1) libcephfs and libcephfs-jar for whatever version of Ceph you are running (there are debian/rpm packages) and (2) you need the hadoop bindings. The jar file linked to here (http://ceph.com/docs/master/cephfs/hadoop/) is out of date. The easiest thing to do is to build it from https://github.com/noahdesu/cephfs-hadoop. If they are using Hadoop 1.x then thats it. If they are using Hadoop 2.x, then there is a pull request with a
[18:26] <nwat> patch to support 2x that hasn't yet been merged https://github.com/noahdesu/cephfs-hadoop/pull/1.
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[18:46] <joelio> hrm.. so setting noout doesn't cause new OSDs to not be sert active
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[18:47] <Pedras> nwat: thanks
[18:47] <joelio> is there a way to add new OSDs *whithout* having them decide to start to rebalance?
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[18:48] <gregsfortytwo> sounds like you want "noin"; that'll prevent them from taking data
[18:48] <joelio> I guess, is that a feature?
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[18:50] <gregsfortytwo> it's a flag like noout
[18:50] <joelio> ahh great, good to know, thanks
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[19:06] <loicd> houkouonchi-work: ping ?
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[19:34] <ponyofdeath> hi, if i use an uuid for the qemu image i get this failure http://paste.ubuntu.com/7115636
[19:34] <ponyofdeath> any ideas?
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[19:52] <shimpich> Hi there. I wanted to upgrade my one-monitor setup to a three monitor setup but it failed. The last thing I tried was "ceph mon add <nodename> <ip>:<port>.
[19:52] <shimpich> Afterwards my whole ceph system was broken and I am not able to get it running again
[19:53] <shimpich> I can not remove my faulty mon entry as I am not able to start the ceph cluster and the "ceph" command is stuck
[19:53] <shimpich> any chance I can recover from that?
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[19:55] <shimpich> or the other way around: Can I rebuild a (single) monitor just from scratch and the filesystem?
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[21:25] <sage> shimpich: it sounds like the second monitor isn't starting up
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[21:25] <sage> shimpich: assuming the first mon is still intact, you can extract the monmap, use monmaptool to remove the new guy, and then inject it into the first mon to make it start
[21:26] <sage> ceph-mon --extract-monmap ... and --inject-monmap ... are the commands you want. there is a section in the docs that describes how to do it
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[21:28] <shimpich> sage: I'll try, thanks, I'll try that
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[21:39] <shimpich> sage: finally! Thanks a lot!
[21:40] <sage> shimpich: np :)
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[21:40] <shimpich> I'll try to add my two new monitors again. Which way to you recommend? Manually? ceph-deploy?
[21:41] <sage> ceph-deploy is easiest
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[21:43] <joelio> Is it possible to edit the caps of client type? I've got;
[21:43] <joelio> caps: [osd] allow class-read object_prefix rbd_children, allow rwx pool=one
[21:43] <joelio> want it to read
[21:43] <joelio> caps: [osd] allow class-read object_prefix rbd_children, allow rwx pool=one, allow rwx pool=ssd
[21:43] <joelio> (I guess?)
[21:46] <sage> joelio: yeah, ceph auth caps ...
[21:48] <joelio> sage: ahh, great.. ceph auth help didn't show the caps branch
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[21:51] <joelio> sage: thanks, caps updates
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[21:53] <dmick> joelio: ceph auth -h | grep caps
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[21:55] <joelio> dmick: thanks, I think I've been using the help system incorrectly... just spotted the 10 matches, not full list. doh
[21:56] <joelio> it's been a long day :)
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[21:57] <dmick> I hear you :)
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[22:31] <shimpich> thanks for the help and have a nice evening
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[23:31] <h6w> Hi. I didn't realise that ceph has an internal monitor map. I changed my IPs and edited the config file but nothing worked. I changed them back but I'm still getting pipe(0x7f70d0024400 sd=3 :0 s=1 pgs=0 cs=0 l=1 c=0x7f70d0024660).fault errors if I try to get the map.
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[23:32] <h6w> Do the IPs have to be the primary on the network interface?
[23:35] <mtanski> I've been following erasure coding work on and off. Most of the documentation I see on it is implementation detail which is useful but I still have two questions. What's the read penalty on reading erasure coded data if no chunks are lost? Will it be possible to use erasure coding with cephfs?
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[23:53] <sage> mtanski: you read a stripe from N devices where N is usually between 3 and 8, depending on the code. vs replication where you read it all off the primary copy. depending on how you set up the striping this may not matter for large objects but it will on small ones
[23:53] <sage> mtanski: it won't work directly with cephfs (not initially, certainly); you'd need to use it in combination with the cache tiering. at some point we'll add read support, though, so that you can do a mode that only caches/buffers writes but reads-through
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