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IRC Log for 2014-02-20

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[0:50] <fedgoat> 2I'm getting a Health Warn 1479 pgs degraded 1800 pgs stuck recovery 4/144 objects degraded (2.778%) I had 3 osd's that were down, I was able to restar tthe 3, but looks like it's sticking in a degraded status...New to Ceph, bare with me...any insight on how to repair this
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[2:20] <fedgoat> i have a bunch of stuck unclean pages that dont' seem to be recovering after 3 osd's were marked down....i was able to bring them back up...what can i do to get these back to a clean state
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[2:34] <dmick> fedgoat: are all the OSDs up and in now? (ceph osd tree)
[2:34] <fedgoat> yea they are all up now
[2:34] <dmick> ...and in?
[2:35] <fedgoat> yes
[2:35] <dmick> and you didn't recreate any of the missing three OSDs, just restrated them (i.e. they didn't lose data)?
[2:35] <fedgoat> correct
[2:35] <dmick> *restarted
[2:36] <fedgoat> i have 2 storage nodes 18 osd's each 3 osd's were down in storage node 1
[2:36] <dmick> is ceph -s showing the same pg stats each time?
[2:36] <fedgoat> yes
[2:36] <dmick> (or is it progressing on fixing them)?
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[2:36] <fedgoat> its not progressing
[2:36] <dmick> collect some output and put it on a pastebin of your choice
[2:37] <dmick> ceph osd tree, ceph -s, ceph osd dump
[2:37] <fedgoat> ok will do
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[2:42] <fedgoat> http://pastebin.com/JqxCsdr5
[2:44] <sjusthm> fedgoat: your crush rules are splitting replicas by host
[2:44] <sjusthm> some of your pools have 3 replicas
[2:44] <sjusthm> but you have only two hosts
[2:44] * dmick nods
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[2:44] <fedgoat> yea i have a 3rd node i still need to add osd's too..but i may wait on that...should i change it to 2 replicas
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[2:44] <sjusthm> fedgoat: that would be the most expedient solution
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[2:45] <fedgoat> hrm
[2:45] <sjusthm> .usage, .rgw.buckets.index
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[2:45] <sjusthm> have rep size 3
[2:45] <sjusthm> and a pool which appears to be the empty string
[2:45] <sjusthm> hmm
[2:45] <sjusthm> dmick: we should probably not allow the empty string as a pool name
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[2:48] <dmick> yeah, there are some other characters that should be disallowed too
[2:49] <fedgoat> i dont understand whyh those pools got created with 3 replicas
[2:49] <sjusthm> it became the default at some point
[2:49] <lurbs> dmick: Just don't take away my pool called '???'.
[2:49] <sjusthm> lurbs: :(
[2:49] <fedgoat> what do i do about the one with no name
[2:51] <sjusthm> fedgoat: hmm, it won't actually let me create a pool with name ''
[2:51] <sjusthm> ah, but I can do it with the rados tool
[2:52] <sjusthm> rados rmpool ''?
[2:52] <sjusthm> that is
[2:52] <sjusthm> rados rmpool ''
[2:52] <sjusthm> if you want to remove it that is
[2:54] <dmick> if it's actually empty and not just a non-printing char
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[2:55] <sjusthm> dmick: good point
[2:55] <fedgoat> it removed with ''
[2:55] <sjusthm> ah, good
[2:57] <fedgoat> changed the default to 2
[2:57] <fedgoat> just getting Health_WARN 1200 pgs stuck unclean now
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[3:03] <dmick> "changed the default"....you mean, you set the pool size of the 3-replica pools?
[3:04] <fedgoat> yes in the ceph.conf
[3:04] <dmick> no, that won't do it
[3:04] <dmick> the pools are configured with that size
[3:04] <fedgoat> osd pool default size = 3
[3:04] <dmick> that's for new creation
[3:05] <dmick> ceph osd pool set <name> size 2
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[3:18] <fedgoat> Health is checking OK now...had to stop all osd's on both nodes and restart them, restarted monitoring...hrm
[3:19] <dmick> shouldn't have been necessary
[3:19] <dmick> presumably you did the osd pool set commands?
[3:19] <fedgoat> yea i did..but it wasnt changing or progressing
[3:20] <dmick> shrug. maybe it doesn't notice pool size changes until a scrub or some write or something; not sure
[3:22] <fedgoat> All new to me :) just need it to be stable for a POC test tomorrow with a client
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[9:07] <Kioob> hi
[9:07] <Kioob> in a "ceph pg XXX query", I have that kind of answer :
[9:07] <Kioob> "name": "Started\/Primary\/Peering\/WaitFlushedPeering",
[9:07] <Kioob> "enter_time": "2014-02-20 08:56:28.100234",
[9:07] <Kioob> "comment": "waiting for flush",
[9:07] <Kioob> "state": { "name": "Started\/Primary\/Peering",
[9:08] <Kioob> What should I understand by "waiting for flush" ?
[9:08] <Kioob> (I have a lot of "peering" problems since some hours)
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[9:45] <wonko_be_> all, i have a setup with 3 boxes, 7 osds per box, 2 x bonded 2gbit network for replication and client. All works well, and rbd gives me trough fio testing a 300 iops per client
[9:46] <wonko_be_> however, when I remove one box (either by just unplugging the power, or by cleanly shutting the osds there), the performance drops significantly (30 to 50 iops) and some clients just block
[9:46] <jjgalvez> wonko_be_: could your network be getting saturated by recovery?
[9:47] <wonko_be_> replication level is 2, crushmap seems correctly configured (i only get degraded pg's, none are "unfound")
[9:47] <wonko_be_> i guess it is, and i tuned down the backfilling processes to 1 per osd
[9:48] <wonko_be_> (osd max backfills = 1, osd recovery max active = 1, osd recovery op priority = 1, osd num concurrent backfills = 3)
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[9:48] <wonko_be_> both the immense drop in performance and the blocked clients trouble me
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[9:49] <wonko_be_> the drop would be due to the saturation or near-saturation on the replication-network, but it seems i can't downtune that enough
[9:50] <wonko_be_> the blocked clients are a problem
[9:50] <wonko_be_> (i'm using the rbd kernel driver for my tests)
[9:51] <wonko_be_> questions i have: how do I check that the parameters set in the config file are really loaded by the cluster, as when backfilling starts, i still see more than one backfill started per osd in the mon logs
[9:51] <wonko_be_> and how do i debug the stuck clients
[9:53] <jjgalvez> I would not expect that sort of saturation with those settings. I'd confirm that it isn't saturation first. As for the config; for each daemon there is an asok file, normally found in /var/run/ceph/. You can use the path to one of those in this command: sudo ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-osd.0.asok config show
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[9:54] <wonko_be_> okay, i'll check that first, make sure it is okay (has the settings), and then retest a failure and monitor the network usage to see if there is saturation
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[9:54] <wonko_be_> thx for the pointer to get me going again
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[9:56] <jjgalvez> wonko_be_: np, good luck
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[10:06] <wonko_be_> in the dumped config, i found a setting "osd_recovery_max_single_start" which is set to 5, while osd_recovery_max_active is set to 1
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[14:10] <mathias> hi, can I run ceph on a single node only? I want to scale out after but have to start with a single one.
[14:11] <janos> you *can*, but it's not designed for that
[14:12] <mathias> janos: thx, and when I scale out it will start replicating what is already there?
[14:13] <janos> sort of
[14:13] <janos> are you familiar with failure domains?
[14:13] <janos> you certain can do what you're suggesting. but for someone new it's easier to not dot hat
[14:14] <mathias> nope, I am not familar with anything, yet. I was just watching some youtube videos to be able to figure out if CEPH is what I am looking for at all.
[14:14] <janos> ok, a failure domain is sort of the unit of measure for what can completely fail and still be safe
[14:14] <mathias> janos: so what do you suggest? not use ceph? :D
[14:14] <janos> the default is host
[14:15] <janos> it really depends on what your goal is
[14:15] <mathias> goal is shared and replicated storage and start out with a single node
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[14:15] <janos> so the default is host. an entire machine can fail. so obviously you'd need to change that ;)
[14:15] <janos> which is changable and easy, but something to bear in mind
[14:16] <janos> that once you expand, you are going to want to change it back
[14:16] <janos> the single node part is difficult, but do able
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[14:16] <janos> i'd play with some tutorials first. they have some single-machine examples
[14:17] <janos> they are for learning, not recommended for usage or benchmarking or anything
[14:17] <mathias> cool thx! helped my a lot! Ill get started then :)
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[14:20] <fedgoat> Do y ou have a SAN? If you're gonna go that route, i'd split up the san storage, build your host as a hypervisor and virtualize the OSD's
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[14:54] <KevinPerks> e
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[15:19] <fedgoat> Seems when I put an object, my cluster goes to a pgs stuck unclean; recovery degraded state, but doesn't progress, isn't recovering..any ideas
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[16:25] <abraxas> hi
[16:26] <abraxas> new user here, plowing through quick start guide. i have a feeling that the guide is not really up-to-date, might that be?
[16:26] <abraxas> running the commands seems to produce errors. but maybe i'm just interpreting things wrong
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[16:29] <Gugge-47527> abraxas: the ceph-deploy quick guide?
[16:29] <Gugge-47527> abraxas: what commands, and what errors? :)
[16:30] <abraxas> hmm, i'm running along and fixing things behind the scenes. but the ssh keys were not magically placed on the nodes for passwordless login
[16:31] <abraxas> after running ceph-deploy mon create-initial i got error messages saying that a node is not in quorum
[16:31] <alfredodeza> abraxas: ceph-deploy will do that and prompt you for the passwords
[16:31] <abraxas> yes, prompted for the passwords but somehow did not put any ssh keys on the nodes. had to manually create .ssh directory and place authorized keys
[16:32] <fedgoat> i had the same issue
[16:32] <abraxas> can not guarantee that it wasn't my fault since I have no idea what is happening behind scenes other than what is explained in the quick start guide
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[16:32] <fabijanb> HEy guys
[16:32] <abraxas> i feel less stupid now, thanks fedgoat
[16:32] <abraxas> hi fabijanb
[16:33] <fabijanb> is that abraxas from santana?
[16:33] <alfredodeza> abraxas: that may be a bug, but it is difficult to tell if there are no logs I can see :)
[16:33] <abraxas> not really :) it's an old nickname inspired by a book by hermann hesse
[16:33] <fabijanb> isnt hesse a nazi?
[16:33] <abraxas> what logs would you like to have alfredodeza?
[16:33] <alfredodeza> the ceph-deploy logs
[16:34] <fabijanb> where are you guys from and for what is this?
[16:34] <abraxas> i don't know about that fabijanb. if so, i would condemn that
[16:34] <alfredodeza> so ceph-=deploy tries to give you as much information as possible so that you know exactly what is going on as it is doing it
[16:34] <fabijanb> nazis are great
[16:35] <abraxas> ok, i see. it's in the directory where i ran the ceph-deploy commands
[16:35] <abraxas> i'll scroll through the logs to see if i find anything related to the ssh keys
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[16:37] <alfredodeza> abraxas: from a different directory you could try `ceph-deploy new {nodes}` and just use that
[16:37] <alfredodeza> maybe ceph-deploy is assuming .ssh directories will be there
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[16:37] <abraxas> should i just paste the log in here?
[16:38] <singler> pastebin.com or similar
[16:38] <abraxas> all right, let's see
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[16:39] <abraxas> http://pastebin.com/zvx83RBz
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[16:39] <abraxas> i just pasted the first couple of lines, since the connection is already made. does the ssh-copying happen later on?
[16:40] <abraxas> hey, thanks for your help guys, btw
[16:40] <alfredodeza> abraxas: it does not
[16:40] <abraxas> so as far as i can tell ceph-deploy checks for passwordless ssh login, but afterwards nothing hints to keys being copied
[16:42] <alfredodeza> abraxas: if you can passwordless loging you do not need ssh keys no?
[16:42] <abraxas> alfredodeza: that is correct, but i was never able to login without password in the first place :)
[16:42] <alfredodeza> s/loging/login/g
[16:42] <kraken> alfredodeza meant to say: abraxas: if you can passwordless login/g you do not need ssh keys no?
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[16:43] <abraxas> let's see. i will clone a new node and run the command again in a new directory, just to make i sure i didn't mess up somewhere or am pasting new logs that got generated after i put the keys on the nodes
[16:43] <abraxas> give me 5 min
[16:43] <alfredodeza> if the .ssh/authorized_keys does not exist, ceph-deploy will not create that for you
[16:48] <abraxas> oh. ok. so - did i get that wrong and it shouldn't be created anyway?
[16:49] <abraxas> i thought that's what it said in the preflight guide
[16:49] <abraxas> that ceph-deploy tries to generate the keys and copy them
[16:50] <alfredodeza> ceph-deploy does create the keys and copies them
[16:50] <alfredodeza> it does not create directories though
[16:50] <alfredodeza> nor it will create files for .ssh
[16:50] <abraxas> i'm confused :)
[16:51] <abraxas> so if there is a directory, let's say root/.ssh/authorized_keys, it will add the keys
[16:51] <abraxas> but if the directory does not exist, as on a fresh node, nothing will happen?
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[16:51] <abraxas> fresh node = fresh installation
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[16:54] <abraxas> well anyways, i will not have to run any tests on a new node then since that's the expected behaviour
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[16:56] <alfredodeza> not "nothing will happen" it will tell you that it will not do it
[16:56] <abraxas> i must have missed that
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[16:57] <abraxas> when should that happen? after running ceph-deploy new
[16:57] <abraxas> ?
[16:58] <alfredodeza> right
[16:58] <abraxas> i don't see it
[16:58] <abraxas> http://pastebin.com/9aaqGDb1
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[17:02] <alfredodeza> it says it is making sure passwordless SSH succeeds
[17:02] <alfredodeza> and it looks like it does
[17:02] <alfredodeza> not sure what you are expecting there
[17:02] <abraxas> i would expect a message telling me that it doesn't work and that i need to make sure passwordless ssh login succeeds
[17:02] <abraxas> because it doesn't succeed
[17:03] <abraxas> http://pastebin.com/cYRXd79M
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[17:03] <fedgoat> uh, so it makes the keys, but doesnt check to make sure .ssh exists or authorized_keys file, thats stupid
[17:03] <abraxas> i agree that from the behaviour after running ceph-deploy install it is clear that the passwordless login fails
[17:03] <fedgoat> fix it
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[17:04] <alfredodeza> fedgoat: I am not sure I agree with that way of asking fixes for an open source project
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[17:05] <fedgoat> im just kidding...but maybe that can be added to be looked at
[17:05] <abraxas> :) guys, sorry for causing a stir. look, i don't care if you fix that, reword the logmessage or anything. that's up to you, and i have no idea what the process for that is. i just wanted to make sure i'm not messing up the whole installation before i even start deploying it
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[17:05] <abraxas> because i did have other messages i did not understand afterwards. it was easy to fix the ssh-thing
[17:05] <alfredodeza> abraxas: going through the code it seems to me that it should tell you if the path is not there
[17:06] <abraxas> all i saw was what i pasted to pastebin
[17:06] <abraxas> i would have expected that the necessary files will be created
[17:07] <abraxas> if not, i would have expected a clear message saying that nothing happened and the keys were not placed on the nodes
[17:07] <abraxas> but that's just me :)
[17:07] <fedgoat> yea i agree, there was no message for me either..all of a sudden its asking me for passwords..and im like "well isnt that we just did, create the keys and copy the keys"
[17:07] <abraxas> yes, i was confused as well
[17:07] <alfredodeza> abraxas: https://github.com/ceph/ceph-deploy/blob/master/ceph_deploy/new.py#L81-84
[17:08] <alfredodeza> if you can confirm that the directories/files are there but ceph-deploy is not issuing that warning then that is a bug
[17:08] <abraxas> yes, that message would have been exactly what i meant
[17:08] <alfredodeza> abraxas: would you mind opening an issue on the tracker? http://tracker.ceph.com/projects/devops/issues/new
[17:09] <abraxas> i will happily do that. but just to be clear - you said "if you can confirm that the files are there but..."
[17:09] <alfredodeza> right
[17:09] <fedgoat> i see that warning
[17:09] <abraxas> i can confirm that the files are NOT there, and the warning did not show
[17:09] <alfredodeza> ok
[17:09] <alfredodeza> that is a bug
[17:09] <fedgoat> i show the warning on the first storagenode
[17:10] <fedgoat> maybe can have an option for Do you want to Create this?
[17:10] <fedgoat> rather than just skipping
[17:10] <fedgoat> or add in documentation quickstart to make sure that's created
[17:11] <abraxas> yes, that's funny. i do find the message in ceph.log, but only for the first node
[17:11] <abraxas> no warning for the other nodes
[17:12] <abraxas> :) i cannot register a new account on tracker.ceph.com due to an internal error
[17:12] <abraxas> "an error occured on the page you were trying to access"
[17:13] <abraxas> are there other means to create tickets?
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[17:16] <abraxas> well, something else - it seems that after ceph-deploy mon create-initial, the keys were not gathered
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[17:17] <abraxas> after creating the osd directories on two nodes and running ceph-deploy osd prepare
[17:17] <alfredodeza> keys will not be gathered if the monitors did not formed quorum
[17:17] <abraxas> i go this error: [ceph_deploy][ERROR ] RuntimeError: bootstrap-osd keyring not found; run 'gatherkeys'
[17:17] <alfredodeza> you should've seen warnings in the create-initial command
[17:17] <abraxas> ok. one monitor did not form quorum
[17:18] <abraxas> yes, i have seen that warning but was not sure if that was a problem or not
[17:18] <abraxas> 3 nodes, 2 seem ok but one not
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[17:18] <alfredodeza> if you are using the latest ceph-deploy 1.3.5 you should've seen an actual error
[17:18] <abraxas> i do use 1.3.5
[17:18] <abraxas> there was an error saying that one node did not form quorum
[17:19] <abraxas> there was some time-out gradually increasing (waiting 10 seconds, 20 seconds, etc.) and after a while it seemed to fail for that specific node
[17:19] <abraxas> should i just re-run mon create-initial?
[17:20] <abraxas> or does it make more sense at this point to delve into the manual and start debugging the problem?
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[17:20] <abraxas> just seemed to me that the whole quick start guide wasn't so quick and straight forward, at least for me
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[17:23] <alfredodeza> the later
[17:23] <alfredodeza> there are a lot of things that can be causing that
[17:23] <alfredodeza> a firewall is one
[17:23] <alfredodeza> and it is really tricky to find out
[17:24] <alfredodeza> you might want to up the debug levels of the logs and see what is going on
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[17:29] <abraxas> i purged everything and re-installed
[17:29] <abraxas> after running mon create-initial, the same node had problems again but after a couple of seconds reached quorum
[17:30] <abraxas> besided purging and re-installing nothing changed. well, i'll just continue with the quick start guide for now, i don't think it's worth re-doing it a couple of times to see where it fails. it's too specific for my setup anyway i guess
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[17:34] <abraxas> ok, what is also unclear to me, is whether i should install anything besides ceph-deploy on the admin node in the quickstart guide
[17:34] <abraxas> because at the end when running ceph-deploy admin and specifying the nodes, it will fail if i include the admin node
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[17:35] <abraxas> [ceph_deploy.admin][ERROR ] RuntimeError: /etc/ceph/ does not exist - could not write config
[17:36] <fedgoat> im using a standalone node for admin functions and ceph-deploy..I will probably make this a VM or a saltmaster/chef server for some automation at some point I'm thinking
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[18:04] <ccooke> Odd. I have an osd that shuts itself down every time I try to start it. nothing logged that looks like an error - I just see a couple of journal _open messages logged, then a journal close
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[18:54] <dmsimard> What's the stable release support cycle ? Will dumpling still be supported once firefly is out ?
[18:56] <gregsfortytwo> yes, although I don't remember for how long
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[20:13] <bens> i like big logs and i cannot lie
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[20:13] <bens> you other brothers cant deny
[20:14] <bens> ceph gives em to us and fills out disks
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[20:14] <bens> good thing we got big drives.
[20:14] <bens> also, good morning.
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[20:19] <gregsfortytwo> lol, morning
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[20:30] <pmatulis> bens: ceph poetry?
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[20:48] <bens> pmatulis: every day
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[22:26] <bens> i keep reading OKAY as ZERO K
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[22:38] <dmick> bens: but kilobytes is abbreviated 'k'
[22:38] <dmick> (kB, actually)
[22:39] <bens> it says OK
[22:39] <bens> noy OKAY
[22:39] <bens> *not
[22:39] <bens> i way just saying that so you could see
[22:39] <bens> also did you see today's rhyme
[22:40] <dmick> right, and OK could be nothing but "okay", because "zero k" would be 0k
[22:41] <bens> but fonts!
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[22:44] <fghaas> 0K is impossible, because physics. problem solved.
[22:45] <janos> zero degrees kelvin?
[22:45] <fghaas> janos: it's zero kelvin, kelvin is a unit, there are no degrees.
[22:46] <janos> bah, right
[22:46] <bens> my cluster is so cool it's negative kelvin
[22:46] <janos> you will kill us all
[22:46] <bens> you know how the hipster burnt his hands?
[22:46] <bens> changed the lightbulb before it was cool
[22:46] <janos> haha
[22:47] <bens> (i heard that joke on vinyl)
[22:47] <bens> is it normal to have bursts of paxos traffic on an healty cliuster?
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[22:48] <bens> normally its about once a scond, then i get 500 lines in the logs in 2 seconds
[22:48] <fghaas> bens: do they rhyme?
[22:49] <bens> they all end in the same word
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