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IRC Log for 2013-09-21

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[0:11] <wrencsok> df
[0:15] <dmick> df: command not found
[0:21] <liiwi> niinnoh
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[0:32] <PerlStalker> quick question: ceph-deploy mon create is failing to create/start a monitor.
[0:33] <PerlStalker> What can I do to fix this?
[0:33] <dmick> step 1: diagnose it
[0:34] <PerlStalker> I know it's not starting but there's nothing in the log that says why.
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[0:37] <dmick> are dirs created in /var/lib/ceph? is the mon process running?
[0:39] <PerlStalker> Fixed it. There was an old 'done' file hanging around that was preventing mon create from doing anything.
[0:40] <dmick> ah
[0:40] <PerlStalker> Now I just need to wait for the keys to get created.
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[0:57] <wrencsok> any tips on removing an OSD permanently without causing chaos and essentially creating a cluster wide DoS?
[0:57] <wrencsok> i turned down the backfill threads but still get load spikes on the storage nodes upwards of 700 or more
[0:58] <wrencsok> if i put it back... things settle. i let it try to rebalance its not pretty (dumpling 67.3)
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[1:34] <dmick> wrencsok: I've had some recent experience with a 5-host 35-osd cluster where I've done exactly that several times
[1:34] <dmick> basic strategy: set noin, mark OSD out, let it settle
[1:34] <dmick> then kill it, use ceph CLI to remove from crushmap and then from cluster
[1:35] <mikedawson> wrencsok: Be aware of this bug which hasn't been backported to a Dumpling release yet: tracker.ceph.com/issues/6291
[1:35] <mikedawson> wrencsok: basically, the code to turn recovery threads down was broken in Dumpling
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[1:37] <mikedawson> dmick: the "let it settle" part is the problem... several of us see thrashing disks during that time causing performance to approach zero
[1:38] <dmick> mm. yeah, I wasn't doing a whole lot of I/O at the time
[1:38] <wrencsok> ahhh.
[1:39] <wrencsok> that explains that. previously setting backfills to 2 fixed things for us.
[1:39] <wrencsok> yeah its not pretty. 168 osd's and nearly half a petabyte.... pure chaos under backfill
[1:40] <dmick> what kind of numbers does ceph -w show?
[1:40] <wrencsok> cluster was essentially idle til i pulled that out.
[1:40] <mikedawson> wrencsok: there is a workaround... give me a sec
[1:40] <wrencsok> its fine now, but that puts a damper on some architectural changes we want to make on that cluster.
[1:40] <wrencsok> cluster 7fe96461-e3b8-4ad7-8eb2-e8281f5c8314
[1:40] <wrencsok> health HEALTH_OK
[1:40] <wrencsok> monmap e21: 3 mons at {a=10.30.66.12:6789/0,b=10.30.66.13:6789/0,c=10.30.66.14:6789/0}, election epoch 5722, quorum 0,1,2 a,b,c
[1:40] <wrencsok> osdmap e279156: 168 osds: 168 up, 168 in
[1:40] <wrencsok> pgmap v22636930: 77856 pgs: 77856 active+clean; 44070 GB data, 121 TB used, 336 TB / 458 TB avail; 976KB/s rd, 4961KB/s wr, 435op/s
[1:40] <wrencsok> mdsmap e1: 0/0/1 up
[1:41] <dmick> wrencsok: I meant while it was going on; how many recovery ops/bytes was it reporting
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[1:41] <wrencsok> oh... it was all over the place.
[1:42] <wrencsok> had some spikes reported upwards of 165GB/s in traffic, tho our graphite didn't pick that up, mainy stuck around 6GB/s
[1:42] <wrencsok> recovery ops...
[1:42] <wrencsok> looking
[1:42] <wrencsok> very low
[1:43] <mikedawson> wrencsok: set osd_recovery_max_single_start = 0 prior to triggering recovery (you may need to restart OSD), plus set osd_recovery_max_active lower than the default of 5
[1:43] <wrencsok> 4064 GB data, 121 TB used, 336 TB / 458 TB avail; 956KB/s rd, 41873KB/s wr, 368op/s; 14736/31699779 degraded (0.046%); recovering 30 o/s
[1:43] <wrencsok> that was only with one osd and almost recovered tho... have to dig back a lot farther for the real mess
[1:44] <wrencsok> that should dial down the backfill process when i take a node out?
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[1:44] <mikedawson> dmick: wrencsok is talking about backfill, and I'm pointing him to recovery config options. Are those completely separate of do both play a role here?
[1:45] <wrencsok> i need to be able to remove a node at a time without destroying service. this used to be a bit cleaner.
[1:46] <dmick> wrencsok: no one would contest that
[1:47] <dmick> mikedawson: I'm not sure if they're connected or not. sjust: do recovery options also throttle backfill?
[1:49] <wrencsok> i really need a way to tone that down. hoping to remove 2 spinners from each node and swap out our old ssd's for a 4 SSD/12 spinner setup per storage node. so each 550MB/s ssd is split btwn 3 spinners.
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[1:50] <mikedawson> wrencsok: 3:1 is a good ratio in my experience
[1:50] <wrencsok> our drive controller and bus can handle it.. hoping to get things a bit more stable under load and reduce io wait and some of these instability issues.
[1:51] <wrencsok> then i can swap kernels and make some other tweaks and hopfully keep that thing stable under load
[1:51] <wrencsok> also hoping the kernel changes fix our memory fragmentation problems.
[1:52] <wrencsok> and bucket depletions.
[1:52] <SvenPHX> will the bug fix be backported to dumpling?
[1:53] <mikedawson> SvenPHX: Yes, it should be in 0.67.4
[1:53] <wrencsok> any eta on that?
[1:53] <wrencsok> late next week, two weeks?
[1:53] <wrencsok> can put that activity on hold and work on our kernel changes on another cluster if its going to be a while.
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[1:54] <wrencsok> but we do have that particular cluster in a sorta pre-production environment with beta testers on it.
[1:54] <wrencsok> so i can't.... lose service... while we upgrade it.
[1:54] <mikedawson> wrencsok: no idea on eta.
[1:55] <SvenPHX> mikedawson: thanks
[1:55] <wrencsok> no worries.
[1:55] <wrencsok> yeah and thanks.
[1:56] <dmick> it's been a crazy week for Sage
[1:56] <dmick> but I kinda feel like there's a critical mass piling up for a .4
[1:56] <dmick> watch the MLs
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[1:56] <mikedawson> wrencsok: just looked, there isn't a wip (work in progress) build with that patch, either
[1:56] <wrencsok> we can't pull a wip...
[1:56] <wrencsok> breaks our process on that cluster.
[1:57] <wrencsok> i can do that in the lab, not on that cluster.
[1:57] <mikedawson> yep
[1:58] <SvenPHX> friday afternoon blood pressure riser :-D
[1:58] <wrencsok> ok, its beer-o-clock. you all have a good night... thanks for the info. i'll see if i can find a good workaround in our lab, and delay the hardware changes on the other cluster.
[2:00] <dmick> cheers
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[15:51] <torment> anyone have any suggestions for lowpower hardware to run OSD's on
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[18:34] <gavk> привет
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