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IRC Log for 2013-08-31

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[0:24] <sagewk> gregaf1: the objecter stuff looks good; that's ready to go?
[0:24] <gregaf1> it passes the rados tool test I included
[0:24] <gregaf1> and I don't have any reservations about it
[0:24] <gregaf1> is that enough? :)
[0:24] <sagewk> yep!
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[0:36] <bstillwell> Are these the correct commands to convert .rgw.buckets to 2048 pgs?:
[0:36] <bstillwell> ceph osd pool set .rgw.buckets pg_num 2048
[0:36] <bstillwell> ceph osd pool set .rgw.buckets pgp_num 2048
[0:37] <bstillwell> The documentation on splitting still says it's an upcoming feature
[0:38] <sagewk> bstillwell: that will do the trick on cuttlefish or dumpling.
[0:38] <bstillwell> sagewk: thanks, working with dumpling here
[0:38] <sagewk> where in the docs? i'll update
[0:39] <bstillwell> It would be nice if it were described here:
[0:39] <bstillwell> http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/pools/
[0:39] <bstillwell> On that page it currently says:
[0:39] <bstillwell> Important Increasing the number of placement groups in a pool after you create the pool is still an experimental feature in Bobtail (v 0.56). We recommend defining a reasonable number of placement groups and maintaining that number until Ceph’s placement group splitting and merging functionality matures.
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[0:40] <sagewk> thanks
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[0:40] <bstillwell> np
[0:44] <bstillwell> BTW, would you expect any issues from having millions of objects in the same bucket? Average size of a few KiB to a few MiB?
[0:45] <bstillwell> This is for a test on a large photo hosting site.
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[0:48] <joshd> the bucket index can be a bottleneck iirc, using many buckets will work better (sharding the index isn't implemented yet)
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[0:51] <bstillwell> So an odd thing happened after I increased the number of PGs for .rgw.buckets:
[0:51] <bstillwell> before: 2013-08-30 16:38:14.009715 mon.0 [INF] pgmap v2905: 264 pgs: 264 active+clean; 3226 MB data, 11588 MB used, 31584 GB / 31595 GB avail; 201KB/s rd, 2760KB/s wr, 636op/s
[0:51] <bstillwell> after: 2013-08-30 16:38:48.649122 mon.0 [INF] pgmap v2932: 2304 pgs: 2304 active+clean; 807 GB data, 11978 MB used, 31583 GB / 31595 GB avail; 202KB/s rd, 1317KB/s wr, 643op/s
[0:52] <bstillwell> The amount of data jumped a lot!
[0:52] <bstillwell> 3.2GB to 807GB
[0:54] <dmick> Possible RFE: ought we create a ceph or cephdaemon group, and make the admin socket g+rw for that group (so that things like agents can run as cephdaemon instead of as root)?
[0:54] <dmick> thoughts?
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[1:04] <bstillwell> joshd: if you have ~13 billion objects, what would be a good balance of # buckets to objects per bucket?
[1:04] <bstillwell> we can slice it up a number of ways
[1:05] <bstillwell> would 130,000 buckets with 100,000 objects each work best?
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[1:14] <bstillwell> or I guess we could do a million buckets with 13k objects each.
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[1:32] <joshd> bstillwell: exact limits will depend on the workload and cluster - I'd err on the side of more buckets, but yehudasa might have a better idea
[1:34] <yehudasa> yeah, what joshd said
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[1:40] <bstillwell> cool, I'll have to change how I'm importing things then for this test next week then.
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[1:52] <Camilo> wonder if someone has an opinion on little problem
[1:53] <Camilo> I am trying to use a pool other than data for cephfs
[1:53] <Camilo> it happens to be pool ID #3
[1:53] <Camilo> ceph mds add_data_pool 3 has been run
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[1:53] <Camilo> after mounting cephfs seg faults when trying to set the layout
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[1:54] <Camilo> cephfs /mnt/mycephfs2 set_layout -p 3
[1:54] <Camilo> Segmentation fault
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[2:44] <jlhawn> hey guys, when I do `ceph-deploy odd prepare {node}:{..}` does the path I specify need to be a device? I'd like to just specify a directory that I've already formatted
[2:44] <jlhawn> osd*
[2:45] <dmick> you can use a dir, partition, or whole device there. You may also want to specify a journal location as the third part
[2:45] <jlhawn> dmick: I can't quite figure out how to disable journaling
[2:45] <dmick> that's because you can't
[2:46] <jlhawn> oh, the wiki said otherwise: "The Ceph OSD can operate with or without a journal."
[2:46] <dmick> this is news to me
[2:47] <dmick> which wiki where?
[2:47] <jlhawn> http://ceph.com/w/index.php?title=OSD_journal
[2:47] <dmick> see that blue bar at the top? :)
[2:47] <jlhawn> :-(
[2:48] <dmick> if you're just setting up a toy cluster, the journal can be a file within the osd dir
[2:48] <dmick> or next to it, anyway
[2:48] <jlhawn> okay, and that's the default if not specified, correct?
[2:49] <dmick> this is what vstart.sh sets up:
[2:49] <dmick> osd data = dev/osd$id
[2:49] <dmick> osd journal = dev/osd$id.journal
[2:49] <dmick> I'm actually not 100% sure what ceph-deploy does
[2:49] <dmick> try it; can't hur
[2:49] <dmick> t
[2:49] <jlhawn> I had an issue where I can't just specify the device if it's made from LVM
[2:50] <dmick> we fixed a lot of bugs around that code recently
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[2:52] <jlhawn> dmick: and was that included in the dumpling release?
[2:53] <dmick> ceph-deploy is released independently
[2:53] <dmick> although
[2:53] <dmick> that bug was probably in ceph-disk
[2:53] <jlhawn> oh, I thought you meant bugs with the LVM thing
[2:53] <jlhawn> yeah
[2:53] <dmick> which *is* in the ceph release. so yes, I think it's in dumpling
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[3:04] <dmick> hum. the ceph-osd manpage still says the journal is optional, too.
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[3:32] <symmcom> can somebody with some patience help me setting up the Object storage :( have been trying for last few days and still no good result
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[4:14] <symmcom> can somebody tell me how to create the first bucket to link with user ID?
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[4:52] <smiley__> did you already create a user?
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[4:53] <smiley__> are you using swift or s3 api?
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[7:52] <symmcom> smiley: I already created a user and using S3 Compatible program
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[10:07] <Gugge-47527> does the rbd cache setting do anything for the kernel client?
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[10:33] <tnt> no
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[23:41] <MACscr> what version of ubuntu should i run with ceph? 13.04 or LTS?
[23:42] <LCF> for sure it's working with LTS
[23:48] <MACscr> though i need to upgrade the kernel to a newer version from what it seems
[23:48] <LCF> you got any link ?
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[23:49] <MACscr> http://ceph.com/docs/next/install/os-recommendations/
[23:49] <MACscr> this seems a bit outdated
[23:49] <MACscr> but look at the notes at the bottom

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